Reservation is our constitutional right (continued)

Both BJP and Haryana Janhit Congress are Strongly against Jat Reservation.

Same sentiments were expressed by Kejariwal when some of our friends seek his support for Jat reservation.

It is only Congress INLD and RLD(or to say Jat leaders of these parties) who stands for their demand nobody else .

I hope Rajpal Dular will try to convince BJP leaders about Jat interests ...the same way he tries to convince us about BJP on day to day basis.
 
why to include jats of only 9 states. Even the khap leaders are demanding for 11 states..why to leave alone punjabi jats?... amrinder singh has raised the voice today. what is the stand of jat aarakshan sangharh samiti on this. I did not hear anything yet. Jats should get reservation irrespective of religion....
 
Dal Khalsa opposes Jat quota
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2013/20131226/punjab.htm#15

Amritsar, December 25
Vehemently opposing reservation based on caste, radical Sikh outfit Dal Khalsa has appealed to Akal Takht Jathedar to summon SAD president Sukhbir Singh Badal for perpetuating the caste system in the otherwise casteless Sikh society and to seek an explanation for his party’s "unprincipled" stand on including Sikh Jats in the OBC category for reservation.

The organisation said that reservation should be on the economic criteria rather than caste.
In a statement, Dal Khalsa chief HS Dhami said competitive politics being resorted to by the ruling SAD and the Congress in Punjab on the issue would prove to be "another step towards vitiating the fragile social fabric" of Punjab.

He said Punjab, perhaps, was the only state in the country where casteism had never struck root.This was owing to the Sikh doctrine of equality with stress on a casteless, classless society.
The institution of ''langar'' was the outcome of this very doctrine, he said.

He said history was repeating itself with the Congress and the SAD targeting a particular vote bank, this time the Sikh Jats. "What’s alarming is that the SAD is once again violating the tenets of Sikhism," he said.
 
ssgoyat said:
Phool bhai,

Sorry, I don't agree to this.

No community stops jats from competiting for A, B posts. Infact many jats crack A, B posts as well.

Also, if one community has the potential to crack A, B jobs, why should they bother about getting into C, D jobs.

We should better think beyond fauj & police, like other communities. It shouldn't be hardcoded into our young childrens ki tanne bhi apne tau ki tareh hi fauj me bharti ho ke dikhana hai... daud-daad marya kar tadke saanjh....ghee doodh khaya piya kar..
..Instead tanne bhi falane uncle ke bete ki tareh IAS fodna hai....Falane uncle ke bete ki tareh Bank PO fodna hai.... NET clear karna hai..CTET fodna hai... falane uncle ke bete ki tareh apni travel agency kholnihai.. .etc etc...padhai karr dabbke shabbash... le.. doodh-badaam khaya kar.

Point here is to smarten up, put real hard work and it pays off some good day.
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Dear Goyat,
Rightly said, but we must not forget there are different levels of Jats based on economic level, education level, mental level, many of whom are still trapped in the end less cycle of small scale farming, one of the best options to come out of the small scale farming for these people is through government services.
 
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swaich said:
Dal Khalsa opposes Jat quota
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2013/20131226/punjab.htm#15

Amritsar, December 25
Vehemently opposing reservation based on caste, radical Sikh outfit Dal Khalsa has appealed to Akal Takht Jathedar to summon SAD president Sukhbir Singh Badal for perpetuating the caste system in the otherwise casteless Sikh society and to seek an explanation for his party’s "unprincipled" stand on including Sikh Jats in the OBC category for reservation.

The organisation said that reservation should be on the economic criteria rather than caste.
In a statement, Dal Khalsa chief HS Dhami said competitive politics being resorted to by the ruling SAD and the Congress in Punjab on the issue would prove to be "another step towards vitiating the fragile social fabric" of Punjab.

He said Punjab, perhaps, was the only state in the country where casteism had never struck root.This was owing to the Sikh doctrine of equality with stress on a casteless, classless society.
The institution of ''langar'' was the outcome of this very doctrine, he said.

He said history was repeating itself with the Congress and the SAD targeting a particular vote bank, this time the Sikh Jats. "What’s alarming is that the SAD is once again violating the tenets of Sikhism," he said.
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He is right about the " economic criteria", but how can he wash away turbulent past of "Jat community", where they were fighting wars after wars in the name of religion and so called foreign invaders. This was also one of the main reasons why a vast majority of "Jats" became sikh.
What about the female infanticide that still occurs in rural areas in North West Bharat especially in Haryana and Punjab, just because the ancestors of these people of north west Bharat were fighting endless wars and killing their own children due to a total uncertain conditions that were prevailing for a long time in this area.

I think, one has to understand the deep roots of these social problems and the old mind set based on the hardships that these people were subject to for a long time.

Better holistic education, proper participation of these communities such as "Jat" in political, social and economic life of the said areas can only bring them out of those deep set historical miseries that their ancestors have gone through.

These things can only be achieved through, reservation in jobs, bigger farming areas, bigger area of their residential states, economic progress of these communities and social welfare of women, kids and young pupil.
 
maddhan1979 said:
He is right about the " economic criteria", but how can he wash away turbulent past of "Jat community", where they were fighting wars after wars in the name of religion and so called foreign invaders. This was also one of the main reasons why a vast majority of "Jats" became sikh.
What about the female infanticide that still occurs in rural areas in North West Bharat especially in Haryana and Punjab, just because the ancestors of these people of north west Bharat were fighting endless wars and killing their own children due to a total uncertain conditions that were prevailing for a long time in this area.

I think, one has to understand the deep roots of these social problems and the old mind set based on the hardships that these people were subject to for a long time.

Better holistic education, proper participation of these communities such as "Jat" in political, social and economic life of the said areas can only bring them out of those deep set historical miseries that their ancestors have gone through.

These things can only be achieved through, reservation in jobs, bigger farming areas, bigger area of their residential states, economic progress of these communities and social welfare of women, kids and young pupil.
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Dal Khalsa are a hardline Sikh body and they do not represent any particular community; hence their views. To be honest, they are correct in their analysis on Sukhbir Badal. Jat Sikhs do not need reservation and this is just political opportunism by Sukhbir and Amarinder. Jat Sikhs are the most powerful and resourceful group in Punjab. Even if we consider the poor Jat Sikhs engaged in farming, the state govt has ample schemes of fee waiver in schools and engg colleges for rural kids that there is no need for any kind of reservation.
 
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swaich said:
Dal Khalsa are a hardline Sikh body and they do not represent any particular community; hence their views. To be honest, they are correct in their analysis on Sukhbir Badal. Jat Sikhs do not need reservation and this is just political opportunism by Sukhbir and Amarinder. Jat Sikhs are the most powerful and resourceful group in Punjab. Even if we consider the poor Jat Sikhs engaged in farming, the state govt has ample schemes of fee waiver in schools and engg colleges for rural kids that there is no need for any kind of reservation.
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amarinder singh singh even took on bajwa and bhuttal on reservation and he is right..if caste based reservation is there..what is the point in depriving of jatt sikh?.....in haryana also jat is the most dominant, resourceful and powerful community but many of our brothers need reservation. how can you change the viewpoint of those arora- khatris.who feels that jatts specially malwa jatts are amlee, uneducated, truck-drivers ....manyof our brothers in punjab also need reservation...by the way it is not fair to discriminate jatts based on religion and region
 
No Need for me to dial to AAP, I know personally that Arvind Kejriwal is much against the JAT reservation, Now it is upto Jat community whether they should go with him or not.

Samarkadian said:
Seems like you have issues with AAP on various national and regional issues. I am not sure what AAP has to do with Jat Reservation in Centre as it is just a formality now.As far as another party is concerned, I know BJP is not in favour. Nonetheless if you want to ask, they have there toll free number on their website. Go ahead.
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narenderkharb said:
It is only Congress INLD and RLD(or to say Jat leaders of these parties) who stands for their demand nobody else .
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भाईसाहब आप शायद इनेलो सुप्रीमो के बयानो से अंजान हैं । मैं उनके ब्यान की एक कॉपी यहा डाल रहा हूँ एक बार इस पर भी नजर मारना
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हाँ अजय सिंह हमेशा जाट आरक्षण के हक़ मे ब्यान देते आए हैं परंतु जैसे ही हिसार उपचनाव आए उनके भी इस मुद्दे पर सुर बदल गए
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बाकी यहा पर डॉक्टर राजपाल जी ये शायद अच्छे से बता सके की इस परिवार ने कभी कोई जाट के लिए खुल के काम किया हो वैसे ये हमेशा जाट वोट बैंक की खाते आए हैं जिसका ताजा उदाहरण हिसार सीट हैं | 1991 का आरक्षण मत गिनवाना यदि गिनवाओ तो उसके कारण भी बताना की इसको रद्द करने के बाद कोई आंदोलन या कार्यवाही क्यों नहीं की ? उसके बाद 1999 मे भी इनको सरकार बनाने का मौका मिला जिसमे इनका केंद्र की भाजपा सरकार के साथ भी सांझा था , और ऐसा भी नहीं की उस वक़्त ये मुद्दा न उठा हो | 1991 मे भी इनहोने भागते भागते सिर्फ हरियाणा मे दिया उसको भी ये बचा नहीं सके | एक तरफ कहते हैं ताऊ देवी लाल ने वी पी सिंह को बनवाया तो फिर उससे जाटों को आरक्षण क्यों नहीं दिलवाया ? यदि वो ताऊ की नहीं मानता था तो फिर उसके बाद चंद्र शेखर को बनाया उस वक़्त क्यो नहीं दिया ?
 
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narenderkharb said:
Both BJP and Haryana Janhit Congress are Strongly against Jat Reservation.


I hope Rajpal Dular will try to convince BJP leaders about Jat interests ...the same way he tries to convince us about BJP on day to day basis.
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राजपाल दुलर क्या बताएँगे मैं बता देता हूँ
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और ये दूसरा ब्यान जो कांग्रेस से भाजपा मे गए जिनकी जाति भी जाट हैं | वैसे इन चुनाव मे इनपर अहीरों की पूरी मेहरबानी रही जिस कारण अच्छे मार्जिन से सीट निकालने मे कामयाब भी रहे |इसीलिए आजकल ये श्रीमान जी अपनी हर मीटिंग व रैलि मे कहते फिर रहे हैं की हरियाणा का भावी मुख्यमंत्री राव इंद्रजीत सिंह होगा |
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RavinderSura said:
राजपाल दुलर क्या बताएँगे मैं बता देता हूँ
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और ये दूसरा ब्यान जो कांग्रेस से भाजपा मे गए जिनकी जाति भी जाट हैं | वैसे इन चुनाव मे इनपर अहीरों की पूरी मेहरबानी रही जिस कारण अच्छे मार्जिन से सीट निकालने मे कामयाब भी रहे |इसीलिए आजकल ये श्रीमान जी अपनी हर मीटिंग व रैलि मे कहते फिर रहे हैं की हरियाणा का भावी मुख्यमंत्री राव इंद्रजीत सिंह होगा |
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daharmbir nakli ko ek advise h ke wo apne bhai atar singh arr lalla galya akar jansabha kare hjc k liye narnaund m ........................:redface:
hissar m vote jatto n bishnoi ko harane k liye diye thehy na ki kisi party ko... jo bhi jitne wala jat laga logo ko uss ko jita diya .
 
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हमारे नए मोडरेटर साहब को भी पता नहीं थ्रेयड लोक करने का क्या शोक हैं | पिछली थ्रेयड मे कई भाइयों की पोस्ट के जवाब समय के ऊपर छोड़ दिये गए थे | आज उस थ्रेयड पर सरसरी तौर पर नजर मार रहा था तो हमारे आदरणीय बड़े भाई श्री रविन्द्र्जीत ब्लाहरा जी के कुछ वाक्य आगे आ गए , सो सोचा भाई साहब को उनकी कही याद दिला दु |
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?33514-Reservation-is-our-constitutional-right&p=316803
(वेसे मेरे तीर, कभी तुक्के नहीं होते .....कमाल हो ज्यागा फेर ते )

भाई साहब आपके तीर तो तुक्के हो गए और यह कमाल भी हो गया , अब इस पर आपके विचार जानना चाहूँगा !
 
WHO made, how and when Hawa singh sangwan become national president of dalit backward unity sang, it is a good news, congratulations to mr Hawa singh
 
हमारे देश मे जाति आधारित जनगणना आखिरी बार सन 1931 मे हुई थी | अब हम सिर्फ 1931 की जनगणना के आधार पर ही अंदाजा लगाते हैं जबकि 1931 के बाद देश तीन हिस्सों मे बंट लिया | हमारे देश का एक विशेष वर्ग कभी नहीं चाहेगा की जाति आधारित जनगणना हो , क्योंकि ऐसा होने से वे जो अपने आप को 15% बताते हैं वे अल्पसंख्यक हो जाएंगे और उनके हाथ से सत्ता छिनने का डर भी रहेगा | लोक सभा मे जाति आधारित जनगणना का विरोध किया गया , सिर्फ तीन यादवों ( मुलायम सिंह , लालू प्रशाद और शरद यादव ) ने इसके हक मे रोला किया था | जाति आधारित जनगणना हमारे लिए बहुत जरूरी हैं जो इसका विरोध करे समझो वह हमारा दुश्मन हैं |
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