Road Terror

[kapdal]

Lots of passionate discussion going on JL about this terror and that terror. Hindu terror, muslim terror, norway terror- jahaan dekho terror hi terror. The discussion is more terrorising than the actual act of terror.

But what about Road terror? How many people die on roads as compared to due to bombs? I was looking for this information when I came across this:

India's record in road deaths has touched a new low, as toll rose to at least 14 deaths per hour in 2008 against 13 the previous year. The total annual deaths due to road accidents has crossed 1.18 lakh, according to the latest report of National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB).

http://articles.timesofindia.indiat...5664_1_road-accidents-global-road-safety-toll

How many people have died in comparison because of terrorist activities that everyone wants to talk about? Does anyone know?

I think the number would be extremely low in comparison. Yet, everyone wants to solve religious terror, nevermind the solutions being given are more dangerous than the problem.

What can be done to resolve this road terror?

 

[cooljat]

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Well Kapil .. rightly pointed out. Recently I've also read on Jaipur news daily that accident death toll is on a big rise. If you study n' observe u'll find the main reason of such untimely deaths on road is due to sheer rash driving. Nobody gives a damn to traffic rules .. driving sense is far cry.

After arriving here in Oz n' drove a while I realised how different is driving scene here compare to India. Hardly u hear honk, everybody follows traffic rules, no body in hurry, no chaos n' traffic runs smooth as silk. I wish if the same scenario on road would be in India ..

I somewhere read once veteran Bond Roger Moore said, 'driving in India is more dangerous n' adventurous stunt then of any Bond movie'. I agree with him, sometimes wonder how would foreign drivers would feel after driving for first time in India?

They say, an Indian driver can drive anywhere in India provided he pass the driving test of respective country n' irony is most of them fail miserably for first time.

I believe situation is not going to improve unless a lot of changes do happen including strong driving law n' regulations, conditions of road, taming of stray dogs, cows on road n many more ..

 

[annch]

The basic reason behind all kinds of terror/aggression seems to be the same-Intolerance. The irony is- the solution to terror/aggression is also-Intolerance, the intolerance of such acts, and taking action against these. It's a vicious cycle.

 

[annch]

and not to forget, tolerance feeds intolerance..

 

[deependra]

Good thread, thanks Kapil for starting this. It's really unsafe to drive in India. The main reason of so many road accidents is that people don't follow the traffic rules. Another biggest rason is lack of patience, everybody is in hurry and wants to reach the destination in microseconds. Most of the people are drunk while driving and don't care of traffic signals and rules. Bad road conditions which is quite common in India also leads to high volume of accidents. The situation is not goin to improve until the rash drivers realise the importance of their and others lives. I have seen small warning boards on roadsides- "Bacche aapki pratiksha me hain, drive safely" but no one cares and driving beyond the speed limit is a bravery act for them.

 

[singhvp]

and not to forget, tolerance feeds intolerance..

...and the degree of intolerance is alarmingly high in India. The pointless scuffles on Jatland on trivial issues is a case in point. The same kind of people when on roads will definitely ventilate their intolerance taking a toll of innocent people alongwith themselves - "हम तो डूबेंगे सनम, तुम्हे भी ले डूबेंगे". But, on a serious note intolerance is not the only reason for road terror or accidents in India. As Deependra has already pointed out poor infrastructure is also greatly responsible viz. poor or no lighting at even important roads and highways not to speak of smaller countryside roads. Bad road conditions, lack of proper signages and dividers as well as corruption in traffic department/traffic policing which leads to forged licenses and waiver of challan for reckless driving and overspeeding on payment of graft to the traffic police/officials. It is a cumulative effect of many factors including some more which are not coming to mind right now.

 

[cooljat]

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Second with you Deependra here. As for roadside warning boards n' truck graffiti. I really like the one n' follow it (so I fly low) -

जिनको जल्दी थी वो चले गए ..

Good thread, thanks Kapil for starting this. It's really unsafe to drive in India. The main reason of so many road accidents is that people don't follow the traffic rules. Another biggest rason is lack of patience, everybody is in hurry and wants to reach the destination in microseconds. Most of the people are drunk while driving and don't care of traffic signals and rules. Bad road conditions which is quite common in India also leads to high volume of accidents. The situation is not goin to improve until the rash drivers realise the importance of their and others lives. I have seen small warning boards on roadsides- "Bacche aapki pratiksha me hain, drive safely" but no one cares and driving beyond the speed limit is a bravery act for them.

 

[rakeshsehrawat]

एक सेमिनार में मैं एक भाई (mumbai nahiहरियाणा वाला भाई) समाज सेवा के साथ धंधा भी कर रहा है वो रिफ्लाक्टार बेचता है साथ ही साथ उसकी टीम गाँव में जाके ट्राली और थ्रेशर इत्यादि पर टेप इत्यादि लगाने के बारे में लोगो को जागरूक भी करने जाती है ! वो बोला भाई ये धंधा पूरे देश में कहीं भी हो सकता है पर हरियाणा और पंजाब में nahi बोला लोगो को जब इनके फायदे बताने लगते हैं तो कहते हैं की क्यों लगाये जो कार चलावे उनकी के फूट रही हैं देख के nahi चला सकते ! छोटी छोटी असावधानी लोगो की जान की दुशमन कैसे बन जाती है ये बात लोगो को समझ nahi आती और न ही समझना चाहते हैं !

 

[ravinderjeet]

...and the degree of intolerance is alarmingly high in India. The pointless scuffles on Jatland on trivial issues is a case in point. The same kind of people when on roads will definitely ventilate their intolerance taking a toll of innocent people alongwith themselves - "हम तो डूबेंगे सनम, तुम्हे भी ले डूबेंगे". But, on a serious note intolerance is not the only reason for road terror or accidents in India. As Deependra has already pointed out poor infrastructure is also greatly responsible viz. poor or no lighting at even important roads and highways not to speak of smaller countryside roads. Bad road conditions, lack of proper signages and dividers as well as corruption in traffic department/traffic policing which leads to forged licenses and waiver of challan for reckless driving and overspeeding on payment of graft to the traffic police/officials. It is a cumulative effect of many factors including some more which are not coming to mind right now.

कपिल भाई ,सड़क दुर्घटनाओं को आतंकवादी घटनाओं के साथ मिलान करना बिलकुल गलत हे | ऐसे तो फिर मलेरिया से मरने वाले ,सांप के काटने से ,डूब कर मरने से ,प्रसव पीड़ा में मरने ,दहेज हत्या में भी भारत का मौत का आंकडा नम्बर एक हे | भारत में आतंकवादी घटनाएं नेताओं के इशारों पर होती हें और उनको बचाने और उनके अधिकारों के लिए सेकुलर ,मानवतावाद की आड़ में देशद्रोही उनका साथ देते हैं |

वि पि जी , कल इतना छापा हे इन् सेकुलरों के बारे सबूतों के साथ वहां तो आप को जबाब देने को नहीं होता हे | आप साम्यवाद को इस तरह चिपका कर घूम रहे हैं जिस प्रकार बंदरिया मरे उहे बच्चे को छाती से लगा कर घुमती हे |


में पिछले १५ साल से गाड़ी चला रहा हूँ ,आज तक तो कोई दुर्घटना नहीं की हे जेसा की वि.पि जी आरोप लगा रहे हैं की ऐसे ही लोग दुर्घटना करते हैं |

 

[malikdeepak1]

Adhiktar durghatnaye asavdhani or nashe me vaahan chalane ke kaaran hoti hai. Parantu kuch aisi durghatnaye bhi hoti hai jaha aadmi ki savdhani bhi kaam nahi aati.

Kayi durghatnaye atyant savdhani baratne ke baad bhi ho jati hai. Maslan dhund ke mausam me 5 fut dur tak dekhna bhi bhari hota hia ki samne kya ja rha hai or samne se kya aa rha hai.. savdhani baratne par bhi kayi bar 7-8 gadiyo ki ek katar ek dusre ko choomti hui dikhayi deti hai kyuki jab tak kuch dikhayi deta hai, break marne ke paschat bhi itna samay nahi hota ki samay par gadi ruk jaye.
Pahadi kshetro me bhoo-sakhlan ek aam baat hai.. ap savdhani se gaadi 20-30 ki speed me chala rahe hai, par fir bhi koi pathar aapki gadi ke upar girta hai dhadaam se!!
Kuch vaahan varsha-reetu me bhi kshtigrast ho jate hai.. gadi chal rahi hai or tej barish or andhi ki vjah se koi ped achanak se vaahan ke upar aakar girta hia..(south me bahut hote hai aise accident).

Jo durghatnaye asavdhani ke karan hoti hai unpar ankush lagaaya ja sakta hia sakht niyam-kanoon bna kar. prantu fir "lafusiyo" ki mauj ho jyegi. Thoda sa bhi neeyam toda or "lafusiya" jyada paise maangne lag jyega. Unke liye bhi kaanoon ban-na chaiye. Par hmari sarkar kitne kanoon bnana chahti hai, ye kal paarit hue "LOKPAAL BILL" me darsha diya usne.
Ha itna jarur hai ki neeyam ka palan karne se aap apni jaan ki suraksha kar sakte hia basharte dusre bhi unhi neeymo ka palan kare.. Kyuki akele aapke neeyam palan karne se durghatnaye nahi talengi..Prantu sawal fir wahi hai "Bharat me Neeyamo ka palan karta kaun hai??"

 

[sjakhars]

रवींदर जी, आप वी पी जी को शिक्षा मत दीजिये, वो बहुत सहनशील हैं, सहनशीलता की मूर्ती हैं. उनको कोई एक गाल पर थप्पड़ मारेगा तो दूसरा आगे कर देंगे. उनको जेहादी आंतकवाद और सड़क दुर्घटना में कोई फर्क नहीं दीखता. उनकी आँखें ही ऐसी महान हैं, आप उनको दोष मत दीजिये. वो तो natural death और बम धमाकों में हुए coldblooded क़त्ल को भी एक ही मानते हैं.

सड़क दुर्घटनाओ के कई कारन हैं जिनमे सड़क की हालत, रौशनी की व्यवस्था, driving ट्रेनिंग की कमी, unfit unmaintained गाड़ियाँ, और traffic dept और RTO में व्याप्त भ्रष्टाचार है जहाँ बिना टेस्ट के ही driving license मिल जाते हैं. ट्रकों की overloading भी इसमें बड़ा कारण है.

कपिल भाई ,सड़क दुर्घटनाओं को आतंकवादी घटनाओं के साथ मिलान करना बिलकुल गलत हे | ऐसे तो फिर मलेरिया से मरने वाले ,सांप के काटने से ,डूब कर मरने से ,प्रसव पीड़ा में मरने ,दहेज हत्या में भी भारत का मौत का आंकडा नम्बर एक हे | भारत में आतंकवादी घटनाएं नेताओं के इशारों पर होती हें और उनको बचाने और उनके अधिकारों के लिए सेकुलर ,मानवतावाद की आड़ में देशद्रोही उनका साथ देते हैं |

वि पि जी , कल इतना छापा हे इन् सेकुलरों के बारे सबूतों के साथ वहां तो आप को जबाब देने को नहीं होता हे | आप साम्यवाद को इस तरह चिपका कर घूम रहे हैं जिस प्रकार बंदरिया मरे उहे बच्चे को छाती से लगा कर घुमती हे |


में पिछले १५ साल से गाड़ी चला रहा हूँ ,आज तक तो कोई दुर्घटना नहीं की हे जेसा की वि.पि जी आरोप लगा रहे हैं की ऐसे ही लोग दुर्घटना करते हैं |

 

[ravinderjeet]

जाखड भाई में किस्से नु शीक्षआ कोणी देन्दा | में तो खुद सीखूं सूं आड़े जाट लेंड | पर यु दोगलापण किन्ने-अक दिन चालेगा |

 

[singhvp]

रवींदर जी, आप वी पी जी को शिक्षा मत दीजिये, वो बहुत सहनशील हैं, सहनशीलता की मूर्ती हैं. उनको कोई एक गाल पर थप्पड़ मारेगा तो दूसरा आगे कर देंगे. उनको जेहादी आंतकवाद और सड़क दुर्घटना में कोई फर्क नहीं दीखता. उनकी आँखें ही ऐसी महान हैं, आप उनको दोष मत दीजिये. वो तो natural death और बम धमाकों में हुए coldblooded क़त्ल को भी एक ही मानते हैं.

सड़क दुर्घटनाओ के कई कारन हैं जिनमे सड़क की हालत, रौशनी की व्यवस्था, driving ट्रेनिंग की कमी, unfit unmaintained गाड़ियाँ, और traffic dept और RTO में व्याप्त भ्रष्टाचार है जहाँ बिना टेस्ट के ही driving license मिल जाते हैं. ट्रकों की overloading भी इसमें बड़ा कारण है.

You have written absolutely non-nonsensical trash. How absurdly you have made a mess of the whole issue!!. Where have I touched upon terrorism or bomb blast or blah blah?? Why are you digressing from the topic. My theory is that if someone ever dares to slap me, I will politely slap him twice on both the cheeks. So beware and lay off!!!! I am not that kind of peace loving person. Now coming to the topic, I have also mentioned almost the same reasons responsible for road accidents as you have tried to explain viz. road condition, corruption in police/traffic deptt, poor light etc. Don't encourage "gang-war" on Jatland, especially when you are a moderator. Regrettably, You do not let any opportunity of locking horns go by. Come out of this negative and childish attitude young man. Nothing will come out of gang-war. You are simply doing a disservice to Jatland and the entire Jat community. In future let us stop any kind of interaction. OK dear, be a good boy and try not to write anything after this because I did not like your attitude and your write-ups. Bye Bye ....have a nice time.

 

[sjakhars]

This was the start of your post. It seems that you are the only person who has tolerance at Jatland. You compared traffic accidents with bomb blasts in form of intolerance.

What else should I say?

There is no gang war at all, I got my perception abut you by your posts, I may be wrong. If I am wrong then please accept my apologies wholeheartedly.


PS: I am member first and moderator later on this forum. I will never lose my rights as member to become a Moderator and I do not need to put a disclaimer with every post.

...and the degree of intolerance is alarmingly high in India. The pointless scuffles on Jatland on trivial issues is a case in point. The same kind of people when on roads will definitely ventilate their intolerance taking a toll of innocent people alongwith themselves - "हम तो डूबेंगे सनम, तुम्हे भी ले डूबेंगे".

 

[malikdeepak1]

VPji er Jakharji, ek dusre ne ignore list me ger dyo aap. Fer koesa ek-dusre ki post nahi dekh pavega..Jhanjhat e khtam!

Eeb shanti ka daan deke ne thodi jaagrukta me sahyog karo. Yu taga padh ke ne 1 manas bhi rule follow karen laag gya to taage ka maksad pura ho jaga! So be patient and keep contributing.

 

[singhvp]

This was the start of your post. It seems that you are the only person who has tolerance at Jatland. You compared traffic accidents with bomb blasts in form of intolerance.

What else should I say?

There is no gang war at all, I got my perception abut you by your posts, I may be wrong. If I am wrong then please accept my apologies wholeheartedly.


PS: I am member first and moderator later on this forum. I will never lose my rights as member to become a Moderator and I do not need to put a disclaimer with every post.

Where did I mention about bomb blasts, can you quote that particular word/para??

 

[prashantacmet]

to aakhirkar jatland pe purane suhane din laut hi aaye....welcome on the portal again!!

 

[rakeshsehrawat]

Are o kyun budhe manas ne dukhi kar rahe ho?
Ravinder tu katti e godiyan aale yaane ki dhala ho rehya hai.
Kapil aade thamne madi moti road sense ki baat karan ki pooche tha tham marre batte katti nonsense pe utar gaye

 

[kuldeeppunia25]

डूगली ''पलटी'' लगा दी ,, समझ त गए ए होगे -------

 

[prashantacmet]

Where did I mention about bomb blasts, can you quote that particular word/para??

VP ji..aaj kal log-baag congress tai katai fukke baithe hai..arr thaam taang taale tai congress ka favor ka kankar bagya do...congress ke khilaaf aandhi hai yeh......iss aandhi ke saamne jhuk jaan hi achaa hai...logo ka aakrosh nikal raha hai....par ek baat to hai....kelle manas ke pacche nu haath-paa dho ke ni padna chaiye..par yeh tharre hi chotte bhai ...jee pe na liyo inki baat.................