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seekh raha hu bhai dheere dheere...but kaafi time lagega, inke level tak pahunchne me..
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seekh raha hu bhai dheere dheere...but kaafi time lagega, inke level tak pahunchne me..
brahmtewatia
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:rock:rockp.s 1 : tiltle of the thread = sahi disha sahi kadam
p.s 2 : a stitch in time, saves nine
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Why do we Criticize????????
Dear Members,
Think about this? Criticism if hurts, it was well deserved.
But then do we have to criticize every thing and any thing. The worst is making personal comments, and that I see a lot on this site. The worst is, it is only increasing.
How does the development in Rohtak will create problem in villages. We all talk about villages but have run out of those places to find better opportunities and green pastures in cities and foreign countries. How many of us would be going back and settling down in our ancestor villages. Many of us would, but what would be the percentage?
Let me share with you, how the development would help any city:
1. When a project is selected, some work will be done in the city. The labor to do that work will normally come from the surrounding of the city (off course we do get a lot of it from Bihar, but the contractors who get it are our own people). No matter from where the workers come, it would be employment for some people.
2. Once the institution is completed, the city will attract students from all over. The local students will be benefited as they can study while staying at home thus reducing the cost of education for their parents.
3. All these students will spend money in the city. Thus more dhaba’s and other shopkeepers will have business and thus the profit.
4. Prestige: many opening ceremonies will be held. Thus more business to photographers, and other shopkeepers as the public coming to attend these ceremonies will spend the money, while the Chief Guests will have some good pictures to display in their drawing rooms. Many of local leaders will work hard to get close to these VIP’s to get their picture taken. Some of these pictures will get enlarged to the biggest size possible.
5. Many who will be involved in opening ceremony to the actual inauguration on completion of the project will have their CUTS, and thus more income to them.
6. Environmentalists and opposition parties (including those who did not make the cut in the projects) will have some thing to write about, and may be to agitate as well, thus giving police some work to do. Side effect will be building patience and stamina of the public to remain without facilities and essential services for some time.
7. All the labor that comes from out of the state may settle down around the city, or in the public parks, thus adding the landscape of “Juggi Jhopries” to the otherwise concrete all around.
8. People living around these Juggies will have cheap domestic labor. Politicians who work hard to get these people permanent housing will have additional dedicated votes, some more cuts and thus income and prestige.
I don’t see any thing negative in any development. So let us think objectively and positively.
And many of us already have enough fodder to criticize here itself.
But think one thing more: "If I have nothing to contribute, it might be a very good idea to just read the "Thread", and listen and understand what others have to say. As I might have said earlier also:
"it takes a lot of courage to stand up and speak, but it takes more courage to sit down and listen."
So let us all be courageous rather than being personal.
Dear Members,
Think about this? Criticism if hurts, it was well deserved.
But then do we have to criticize every thing and any thing. The worst is making personal comments, and that I see a lot on this site. The worst is, it is only increasing.
How does the development in Rohtak will create problem in villages. We all talk about villages but have run out of those places to find better opportunities and green pastures in cities and foreign countries. How many of us would be going back and settling down in our ancestor villages. Many of us would, but what would be the percentage?
Let me share with you, how the development would help any city:
1. When a project is selected, some work will be done in the city. The labor to do that work will normally come from the surrounding of the city (off course we do get a lot of it from Bihar, but the contractors who get it are our own people). No matter from where the workers come, it would be employment for some people.
2. Once the institution is completed, the city will attract students from all over. The local students will be benefited as they can study while staying at home thus reducing the cost of education for their parents.
3. All these students will spend money in the city. Thus more dhaba’s and other shopkeepers will have business and thus the profit.
4. Prestige: many opening ceremonies will be held. Thus more business to photographers, and other shopkeepers as the public coming to attend these ceremonies will spend the money, while the Chief Guests will have some good pictures to display in their drawing rooms. Many of local leaders will work hard to get close to these VIP’s to get their picture taken. Some of these pictures will get enlarged to the biggest size possible.
5. Many who will be involved in opening ceremony to the actual inauguration on completion of the project will have their CUTS, and thus more income to them.
6. Environmentalists and opposition parties (including those who did not make the cut in the projects) will have some thing to write about, and may be to agitate as well, thus giving police some work to do. Side effect will be building patience and stamina of the public to remain without facilities and essential services for some time.
7. All the labor that comes from out of the state may settle down around the city, or in the public parks, thus adding the landscape of “Juggi Jhopries” to the otherwise concrete all around.
8. People living around these Juggies will have cheap domestic labor. Politicians who work hard to get these people permanent housing will have additional dedicated votes, some more cuts and thus income and prestige.
I don’t see any thing negative in any development. So let us think objectively and positively.
And many of us already have enough fodder to criticize here itself.
But think one thing more: "If I have nothing to contribute, it might be a very good idea to just read the "Thread", and listen and understand what others have to say. As I might have said earlier also:
"it takes a lot of courage to stand up and speak, but it takes more courage to sit down and listen."
So let us all be courageous rather than being personal.
samarkadian
Active member
Tevtia Sir,
You have exactly diagonsed the severe problem of 'immaturity' here.Thaty so many threads with a single comment take entire different direction. Appreciation is entirely different than sycophancy or clear cajoling. Governance in a young country like India is not that easy as it sounds here.That particular MP or anyone with a progressive mind has to fight at various education controlling bodies for allocating this institute.Yes it is under one of his constitutnal duties.In the one tennure establishing an institute is appreciable rather than questioning poster's personal motive. It is infact a good sharing from Harvinder ji. Out of this forum there are scores of medium which would have praised it, but there our immature members would feel highly incomptent to raise even a single question about it.Rather they will be applauding at the end of argument.
This plateform is for Jats from different parts to interacte and to share things not to shoot one with AK 47 of sarcasm. A practise of controlled agression in positive ways would not help only help in succeeding professional circles but also give new dimension to present 'koop-manduk' mentality of jats which is evident here often.
By this effort people of Haryana in first place are going to get benefitted.
If something productive we can add to anything of our family, village, state, country ; lets come out of this mud-sledging with positive embrace and respect to each other. Life is too short to fight and being scattered. Rest Maha Gyani Ravna's ego was vanished ; we are very normal intellect filled and sense driven people.. Its of no use except wastage of energy in too much argument.
sumeetmalik
New member
Thanks Samar and Col. Sahab for bringing some sanity back.
vivekgathwala
New member
mods pls. hv sum foresight, kindly lock this thread !
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सारे threads बंद करान का ठेका मन्ने ही ना ले राख्या.
p.s 1 : tiltle of the thread = sahi disha sahi kadam
p.s 2 : a stitch in time, saves nine
whats wrong in this thread mr tewatia .......if u dont want to be a part of this ..................plz dont post your comments..........
have a good day sir
regards
vivek gathwala
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In continuation with my previous post:
The big question is: The crying need to bridge the demand and supply gap of right talent (employable youths with Quality Education)..who could get jobs thereafter????????
Problem:
Govt. should probe into the fact that, despite having a highly potential job market in Haryana, still only a Handful .(A major chunk is of s/w industry, where few hundreds of haryanavi youth manage to get jobs). (out of 20985 fresh Engineering Graduates (BE/BTech)* passing out every year in haryana) of Haryanavi youths get employment in the state industries
Govt. has the information of the supply n demand gap, and so they are just playing the number game n letting the institutes mushroomed up, without knowing the fact that the need is of Quality Education.
A large chunk of state industry jobs are taken away by students of other state.
*This latest Figure is only of Engineering graduates only, if we add the diploma, ITI, pharmacy, MBA, MCA and other fresh professional passout students, the figure would be much much higher, may be near to Lakh, but still few thousands gets job.
What is the need of approving more n more new institutes, that only makes the situation more worst. If we are not able to give them Quality Education n nuturing their talent???
Reasons:
Our existing Institutes are not able to equip n train the youths as per the industry demands n latest trends, the need is to supply the Quality manpower n not the quantity. Opening up of new institutions won’t help (they will only add chaos), until n unless govt. take care of the already existing one’s.
Solutions:
To tap the job market.The need is to upgrade the existing govt/private institues, equip them with the latest technology trends, raise their infrastructure. Expand them with new courses ,as per the industry demands only..not just for the heck of starting a new institution for political reasons.
Our Governmet:Without doing the homework.that would this Institute be of some help for the Youths, in the job market? What is the success stories of the already opened such Footwear design Institues?? Have they gained any job prospects, in market?
This Institute (FDDI) could have been clubbed with MDU, if he’s so concerned about his constituency. And the funds could have been utilized wisely.
While the Department of Technical Education, & Govt of Haryana should be more focused on the crying need of supplying the right talent to the highly potential Job Market of Haryana (specially in Gurgaon n Faridabad)
The need of hour is to match with what industry demands.Still the government run polytechniques ITI’s , degree colleges are running without the adequate latest machineries..
The governing n accreditation bodies (AICTE, UGC,NAAC, NBA, state Universtites etc) shouldn’t approve such private institutions whether technical or non technical, until n unless they fully meets the eligibility requirements of Infrastructure n facilities. “Na ki peeese kha ke approve kar dein..”
I’m not against any govt’s criticism, but it should have taken care of the pros n cons, not just for the sake of political gains.
Moreover criticisms are always done at wrong steps..
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Few good moves for which I appreciate our government for the latest developments in Education area.
I appreciate the good move of our government to set up of a. Sainik School, Rewari n Defence University in Gurgaon (3rd of it’s kind)…taking care of the crying need of setting up the institutions.. to cater the acute shortage of OLQ Defence Officers.
Reserving few seats for the Rural students in Technical Institutions who have topped in Rural Govt. run schools. So as to make the higher education accessible to the deprived rural youths
Reserving seats for Girls (though 25 % amount is not at all acceptable) in Technical Institutions
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Please have the subject knowledge first before u comment on anything. Ppls behaves like a sheep here…they follow what media says n what others says.
Come to haryana first.....
In continuation with my previous post:
The big question is: The crying need to bridge the demand and supply gap of right talent (employable youths with Quality Education)..who could get jobs thereafter????????
Problem:
Govt. should probe into the fact that, despite having a highly potential job market in Haryana, still only a Handful .(A major chunk is of s/w industry, where few hundreds of haryanavi youth manage to get jobs). (out of 20985 fresh Engineering Graduates (BE/BTech)* passing out every year in haryana) of Haryanavi youths get employment in the state industries
Govt. has the information of the supply n demand gap, and so they are just playing the number game n letting the institutes mushroomed up, without knowing the fact that the need is of Quality Education.
A large chunk of state industry jobs are taken away by students of other state.
*This latest Figure is only of Engineering graduates only, if we add the diploma, ITI, pharmacy, MBA, MCA and other fresh professional passout students, the figure would be much much higher, may be near to Lakh, but still few thousands gets job.
What is the need of approving more n more new institutes, that only makes the situation more worst. If we are not able to give them Quality Education n nuturing their talent???
Reasons:
Our existing Institutes are not able to equip n train the youths as per the industry demands n latest trends, the need is to supply the Quality manpower n not the quantity. Opening up of new institutions won’t help (they will only add chaos), until n unless govt. take care of the already existing one’s.
Solutions:
To tap the job market.The need is to upgrade the existing govt/private institues, equip them with the latest technology trends, raise their infrastructure. Expand them with new courses ,as per the industry demands only..not just for the heck of starting a new institution for political reasons.
Our Governmet:Without doing the homework.that would this Institute be of some help for the Youths, in the job market? What is the success stories of the already opened such Footwear design Institues?? Have they gained any job prospects, in market?
This Institute (FDDI) could have been clubbed with MDU, if he’s so concerned about his constituency. And the funds could have been utilized wisely.
While the Department of Technical Education, & Govt of Haryana should be more focused on the crying need of supplying the right talent to the highly potential Job Market of Haryana (specially in Gurgaon n Faridabad)
The need of hour is to match with what industry demands.Still the government run polytechniques ITI’s , degree colleges are running without the adequate latest machineries..
The governing n accreditation bodies (AICTE, UGC,NAAC, NBA, state Universtites etc) shouldn’t approve such private institutions whether technical or non technical, until n unless they fully meets the eligibility requirements of Infrastructure n facilities. “Na ki peeese kha ke approve kar dein..”
I’m not against any govt’s criticism, but it should have taken care of the pros n cons, not just for the sake of political gains.
Moreover criticisms are always done at wrong steps..
…………………………………………………………………………………………….
Few good moves for which I appreciate our government for the latest developments in Education area.
I appreciate the good move of our government to set up of a. Sainik School, Rewari n Defence University in Gurgaon (3rd of it’s kind)…taking care of the crying need of setting up the institutions.. to cater the acute shortage of OLQ Defence Officers.
Reserving few seats for the Rural students in Technical Institutions who have topped in Rural Govt. run schools. So as to make the higher education accessible to the deprived rural youths
Reserving seats for Girls (though 25 % amount is not at all acceptable) in Technical Institutions
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Please have the subject knowledge first before u comment on anything. Ppls behaves like a sheep here…they follow what media says n what others says.
Come to haryana first.....
Bhai Satyender
Itne point kiste ginawe se Inne ke bera koni ek haryane main Master degree karee hodd batere se naukri to hain konya in dhore. Institute main padoo aur je se lyo kheta main (we bhee nahin bachne kuch time baad)
Important baat konya kare ye Why they don't make any department, which tells about employment rate quaterly and let the public know if they are getting benefit out of these Institutes.
lekin election seer pe se aur kuch to karna padega na te to thode se haan bhalee beena natak karee to vote bhee na milee.
Thanks
Itne point kiste ginawe se Inne ke bera koni ek haryane main Master degree karee hodd batere se naukri to hain konya in dhore. Institute main padoo aur je se lyo kheta main (we bhee nahin bachne kuch time baad)
Important baat konya kare ye Why they don't make any department, which tells about employment rate quaterly and let the public know if they are getting benefit out of these Institutes.
lekin election seer pe se aur kuch to karna padega na te to thode se haan bhalee beena natak karee to vote bhee na milee.
Thanks
brahmtewatia
Active member
sum ppl hit nails right on head…I mean “bang on target”
others shoot blind darts with optimism, may be one will hit the target
(for example…making their viewpoint nd saying…sum ppl)
fact is they both are shooting…these r different hues nd colors of JAT…the battleground is same…JATland (fools paradise…or whatever)…just hv a luk at this thread wat my younger bro has to say abt…try to feel the pain in his write-ups, which are so elaborative nd conveying a point wch nobody seems to observe.
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25073
wat I wud like to say is different ppl think in different ways...don’t u always take them for wrong... I rpt my previous quote of a salesman selling shoes in Iceland…for one it is a missed/useless opportunity, for the other it’s a big opportunity.
wat is important…is to have regard for ppls viewpoint…we all r not same, our CPU’s r different nd so r our operating system…for few WINDOWS is best, while others its MAC all the way...vichaar to vichaar hi hein chahe wo "immature" hon ya "koop maduk" type ho.
aur ye bhi to vichaar hein...(i dont know, wat folks wud say abt these... but sumhow i found them vry inspiring...
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…carry on jats…way to go.:tamatar:thappad
others shoot blind darts with optimism, may be one will hit the target
(for example…making their viewpoint nd saying…sum ppl)
fact is they both are shooting…these r different hues nd colors of JAT…the battleground is same…JATland (fools paradise…or whatever)…just hv a luk at this thread wat my younger bro has to say abt…try to feel the pain in his write-ups, which are so elaborative nd conveying a point wch nobody seems to observe.
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25073
wat I wud like to say is different ppl think in different ways...don’t u always take them for wrong... I rpt my previous quote of a salesman selling shoes in Iceland…for one it is a missed/useless opportunity, for the other it’s a big opportunity.
wat is important…is to have regard for ppls viewpoint…we all r not same, our CPU’s r different nd so r our operating system…for few WINDOWS is best, while others its MAC all the way...vichaar to vichaar hi hein chahe wo "immature" hon ya "koop maduk" type ho.
aur ye bhi to vichaar hein...(i dont know, wat folks wud say abt these... but sumhow i found them vry inspiring...
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infact there are many clasified events which I dont want to disclose here.....nevertheless...I vomit/shite here on this platform whenever I find time
koi aapne gaal dei to uske kayi tarikke hain.....now that depends on the situation and our own perspective how we deal with it (I rate this as the best one
…carry on jats…way to go.
:tamatar:thappad
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brahmtewatia
Active member
now cuming to the subject...yahan joota pajari nahi hogi to yaa khonsdde banaan ka institute (FDDI) kyunkar chaalega.
hahaha baat theek kahi se bhai. nyaara te kimme na karya issa.
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to isliye IIM ar ye khonsdde banaan ka college khol diya. Ar ek baat or bata du , je kisse jat ne is FDDI me admission liya to Rohtak ke log taunt maar-2 ke uska jeena haraam nahi kar denge ke? ak chamaaraa aala kaam kare se
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jitender_singh
New member
fully agreed..
bilkul sahee kaha bhai..
quality jaroori hai na ki quantity..
ais alagta hai haryana main degree college kam hain engineering callege jyaada..
bilkul sahee kaha bhai..
quality jaroori hai na ki quantity..
ais alagta hai haryana main degree college kam hain engineering callege jyaada..
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