prashantacmet
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bhai ayush aur dhillon...media main "saint" aur "godman" jisse word hi use hote hai,,,..baaki ghankhare log inhe bhagwaan tai bhi upper samajhte hai........2-4 satsang lene padenge deekhe tod paatan ki tahi!
Saint Rampal
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bhai ayush aur dhillon...media main "saint" aur "godman" jisse word hi use hote hai,,,..baaki ghankhare log inhe bhagwaan tai bhi upper samajhte hai........2-4 satsang lene padenge deekhe tod paatan ki tahi!
login4vinay
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Since morning, devotees have been leaving the ashram, many saying they were "forced" to stay by the baba and his supporters.
"Baba has locked people in and is not letting them go," said Ram Singh, a farmer from Madhya Pradesh. He says he was asked to come to the ashram for a "Satsang" or discourse, but was ordered to stand outside the gates for days for "Seva" (service).
In his hurry to escape, Ram Singh says he left his belongings and even shoes inside.
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/s...t-leaving-say-they-were-forced-to-stay-622335
"Baba has locked people in and is not letting them go," said Ram Singh, a farmer from Madhya Pradesh. He says he was asked to come to the ashram for a "Satsang" or discourse, but was ordered to stand outside the gates for days for "Seva" (service).
In his hurry to escape, Ram Singh says he left his belongings and even shoes inside.
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/s...t-leaving-say-they-were-forced-to-stay-622335
bipindahiya
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it is the failure of the Haryana Government to smoke out Rampal from the aashram.Crores of ruppess spent , government machinery, administration is engaged there. Government should recover the amount it spend for evacuation of the ashram from the Rampal.
ayushkadyan
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Is that possible.. It seems honorable court is also playing with the situation. You have to be very careful when people are engaged on a mass level with such incident.
My friend, apparently BJP govt turned a blind eye to such a serious issue. Despite so much warning, BJP govt was ignorant about such issue. Right wing Hindu extremist elements throughout the country are nowadays got so much courage that they have stopped respecting law and order. Such a rise of these right wing elements will ultimately prove counter productive my friend.
ayushkadyan
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Yaha bhi BJP.. God save us. Is there any connection of Rampal with BJP? Do some homework before reaching to any conclusion. Can you come out from your BJP phobia and right wing radicals theory..we will be grateful to you..:livid:
My friend such a situation was created by BJP govt. This situation is a result of a deliberate ignorance. Govt has certainly been soft on such people. People like Ramdev are getting Z plus security.
rajpaldular
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जो हाई कोर्ट हिन्दुओं के मामले में शेर बन जाता है वही हाई कोर्ट बुखारी के मामले क्यों गीदड़ बन जाता है? क्या क़ानून का डंडा केवल हिन्दुओं पर ही चलता है? हाई कोर्ट क्या केवल हिन्दुओं का है अथवा जज ही हिन्दुओं के शत्रु बन गए हैं?
Apparantly Ravish did an entire show on politics and religion running hand in hand, why should not that be discussed?
Rampal and Dera Sacha Sauda blessed BJP with their blessings and BJP MLAs had a parade in front of Ram Rahim after winning elections, is that justified? How can you expect politicians to act against such frauds when they beg them for votes?
Here: http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/pr...a-govt-surrendered-before-hisar-godman/345235
Rampal and Dera Sacha Sauda blessed BJP with their blessings and BJP MLAs had a parade in front of Ram Rahim after winning elections, is that justified? How can you expect politicians to act against such frauds when they beg them for votes?
Here: http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/pr...a-govt-surrendered-before-hisar-godman/345235
ayushkadyan
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No one is saying to political parties for taking stand against spiritual gurus. The honorable court is there to act on such issues. One should not forget the case of Bukhari before pointing the finger at a particular party..Here all cats are grey in dark.
Why is no one saying it is the question, because it is BJP? All cats are grey, then let one of them be BJP too in this case. Just because someone else did not do his job properly, others get excuse too?
Anyhow-Hble court an only give orders and implementation lies with the government as police comes under their jurisdiction. Why is it that it takes so long for police to catch someone with locations traced with an unbailable warrant?
When BJP MLAs parade in front of baba ram Rahim after winning elections, do you seriously expect the state to act against him on pending molestation or other charges?
Anyhow-Hble court an only give orders and implementation lies with the government as police comes under their jurisdiction. Why is it that it takes so long for police to catch someone with locations traced with an unbailable warrant?
When BJP MLAs parade in front of baba ram Rahim after winning elections, do you seriously expect the state to act against him on pending molestation or other charges?
ayushkadyan
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Not like that acually..No party is bound to work ethically.. it's politics..On a moral ground it sounds unethical to favor someone.. since these are reference people who hold a strong supporter base, hence, despite knowing all the facts every party tries to maintain a safe distance from such issues. BJP is also not an exception of that.
I don't think so state government is lacking anywhere in implementing the Honorable Court order.
It is taking time beacuse it seems government wants to avoid any clash there.
No one is above to the law of this country. If he has done anything wrong then no political party can save him. now levae it on the court.
Neither BJP nor Congress nor Rampal nor his aides who are responsible, it is we "The common man" who are responsbile. I pity those who follow these so called saints rather arse***** in real sense. I seen many people saying "Mhare aala baba/moda thik se baaki sab chor hai".....99.99% fraud se....aur jo bache hue 0.01% unki par na basati na te pure 100% ho ja. I think some law should be kept in place by the central government to ban these pakhandis irrespective of their religion. We don't need black money, just confiscate money and properties of such fraudalents and use it for Nation building.
Saint Rampal's ideology has been different, than the likes of BJP's lord Shiva gangs. I don't think he has any kind of backing from the BJP government. On the other hand, the state is seemingly bent upon destroying the ashram.
How else would you justify the urgency to arrest Saint Rampal when there are scores of rapists, murders, mass-murders and big time lootere's roaming free even after issuance of non-bailable warrants?
Saint Rampal has been brazenly adept at questioning and challenging the origin and ancestry of gods and the popular interpretations of Hindu scriptures. People who have attended his congregations say Saint Rampal uses aggressive language and tenor, claiming that the “real truth” has been hidden from “the people” by gurus and intellectuals who have interpreted scriptures in the past.
I hope the police and the courts keeps some calm and let the tension diffuse with time so that common people aren't hurt. I don't see any urgency for his immediate arrest.
How else would you justify the urgency to arrest Saint Rampal when there are scores of rapists, murders, mass-murders and big time lootere's roaming free even after issuance of non-bailable warrants?
Saint Rampal has been brazenly adept at questioning and challenging the origin and ancestry of gods and the popular interpretations of Hindu scriptures. People who have attended his congregations say Saint Rampal uses aggressive language and tenor, claiming that the “real truth” has been hidden from “the people” by gurus and intellectuals who have interpreted scriptures in the past.
I hope the police and the courts keeps some calm and let the tension diffuse with time so that common people aren't hurt. I don't see any urgency for his immediate arrest.
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rohittewatia
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Ashram key ander Ramapal morcha bandh karr chupe huen hen, log bhari sankhya men police ko rokne key liye petrol bomb, goli baari aur patharon ka prayog kar rahe hen. Bahar junta dande aur goli kha rahee hai. Agar aisa hi Kashmir men hua hota toh sabhi log aam junta per goli chalaane kobhi keh dete. Why this double standards when it comes to this Rampal who has not one multiple cases pending on him? Continously defying the court orders, defied 42 summons sent to him in the past. Aur aisa konsa braham gyan deta hai yeh rampal, jo log iske liye lathi aur goli kha rahe hen?
prashantacmet
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Bhai....aap gaye ho iske satsang main.........gyani modda hai ke aapke hisaab se?
Nope.
I just became a little interested just read about him due to the current misadventure.
If the followers hide and take shelter behind women and children, one can deduct how holy or knowledgeable their teacher is.
rajpaldular
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संत ने पहले पतियों को बनाया बंधक, फिर महिलाओं को जबरन दी तेजाब
हिसार. रामपाल की फौज ने महिलाओं को रोकने के लिए छल का सहारा लिया। रामपाल के नकमांडो ने महिलाओं के पतियों को आश्रम में बंधक बना लिया। और महिलाओं के हाथ में तेजाब भरी बाल्टियां देकर उन्हें मोर्चा लेने के लिए मजबूर कर दिया। उन्होंने आश्रम के बाहर बैठीं महिलाओं के बच्चों को दूसरे की गोद में डाल दिया, ताकि महिलाएं भाग सकें। रामपाल की फौज के इस छल को अस्पताल पहुंचे कई समर्थकों ने बताया।
भनक लगते ही बनाए बंधक रणनीति के तहत रामपाल आर्मी ने सत्संग में विभिन्न प्रदेशों से आई महिला समर्थकों के पति को आश्रम के अंदर बुलाया। यहां पहले तो आश्रम के कमांडों ने उन्हें डरा धमकाकर आश्रम के सामने डटे रहने की हिदायत दी। इनकार करने पर सभी को आश्रम के अंदर बने एकांत कमरे में कैद कर दिया। यह बात मध्यप्रदेश के मुरैना से आए सुखबीर ने बताया कि उसकी पत्नी और एक बेटी अभी भी आश्रम में ही मौजूद थे।
गोद किसी और की बच्चा किसी और का मंगलवार सुबह 11 बजे जब पुलिस ने आश्रम की ओर बढ़ना शुरू किया तो आश्रम के निजी कमांडो ने आश्रम के बाहर बैठी महिलाओं के बच्चे कट्टर समर्थक महिलाओं की गोद में डाल दिए जो उन्हें लेकर आश्रम के अंदर चली गई। धमकी दी कि यदि वे आश्रम के गेट से उठी तो उनके बच्चे को खत्म कर दिया जाएगा। ये आपबीती पाली से । उसने बताया कि शुक्र है कि वह इस बार अपने परिवार के साथ आश्रम में नहीं आया था। जेवर उतरवाए, सारा पैसा भी रखवा लिया रामपाल आर्मी ने महिलाओं को ढाल बनाने के लिए उनका सारा सामान आश्रम के अंदर रख लिया, ताकि वे आश्रम छोड़कर न जा सके। महिला समर्थकों के गले और हाथों से आभूषण उतरवा लिए। साथ ही उनका पैसा और कपड़े भी जब्त कर लिए गए। उसके बाद उनके हाथ में पुलिस से मुकाबला करने के लिए हाथ में तेजाब भरी बाल्टियां और पेट्रोल बम थमा दिए। रेलवे स्टेशन पर एक समर्थक ने बताया कि संत आर्मी ने महिलाओं को धमकी दी कि अगर उन्होंने ऐसा नहीं किया तो अंजाम बुरा होगा।
हिसार. रामपाल की फौज ने महिलाओं को रोकने के लिए छल का सहारा लिया। रामपाल के नकमांडो ने महिलाओं के पतियों को आश्रम में बंधक बना लिया। और महिलाओं के हाथ में तेजाब भरी बाल्टियां देकर उन्हें मोर्चा लेने के लिए मजबूर कर दिया। उन्होंने आश्रम के बाहर बैठीं महिलाओं के बच्चों को दूसरे की गोद में डाल दिया, ताकि महिलाएं भाग सकें। रामपाल की फौज के इस छल को अस्पताल पहुंचे कई समर्थकों ने बताया।
भनक लगते ही बनाए बंधक रणनीति के तहत रामपाल आर्मी ने सत्संग में विभिन्न प्रदेशों से आई महिला समर्थकों के पति को आश्रम के अंदर बुलाया। यहां पहले तो आश्रम के कमांडों ने उन्हें डरा धमकाकर आश्रम के सामने डटे रहने की हिदायत दी। इनकार करने पर सभी को आश्रम के अंदर बने एकांत कमरे में कैद कर दिया। यह बात मध्यप्रदेश के मुरैना से आए सुखबीर ने बताया कि उसकी पत्नी और एक बेटी अभी भी आश्रम में ही मौजूद थे।
गोद किसी और की बच्चा किसी और का मंगलवार सुबह 11 बजे जब पुलिस ने आश्रम की ओर बढ़ना शुरू किया तो आश्रम के निजी कमांडो ने आश्रम के बाहर बैठी महिलाओं के बच्चे कट्टर समर्थक महिलाओं की गोद में डाल दिए जो उन्हें लेकर आश्रम के अंदर चली गई। धमकी दी कि यदि वे आश्रम के गेट से उठी तो उनके बच्चे को खत्म कर दिया जाएगा। ये आपबीती पाली से । उसने बताया कि शुक्र है कि वह इस बार अपने परिवार के साथ आश्रम में नहीं आया था। जेवर उतरवाए, सारा पैसा भी रखवा लिया रामपाल आर्मी ने महिलाओं को ढाल बनाने के लिए उनका सारा सामान आश्रम के अंदर रख लिया, ताकि वे आश्रम छोड़कर न जा सके। महिला समर्थकों के गले और हाथों से आभूषण उतरवा लिए। साथ ही उनका पैसा और कपड़े भी जब्त कर लिए गए। उसके बाद उनके हाथ में पुलिस से मुकाबला करने के लिए हाथ में तेजाब भरी बाल्टियां और पेट्रोल बम थमा दिए। रेलवे स्टेशन पर एक समर्थक ने बताया कि संत आर्मी ने महिलाओं को धमकी दी कि अगर उन्होंने ऐसा नहीं किया तो अंजाम बुरा होगा।
rohittewatia
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Once captured, Govt. should make a fine example of him. Moron considers himself above Law & Order of the country. Rampal army should also be suitably punished, we are not a banana republic. And the law is same whether you are a common criminal or a self styled dhongi. Lez wait n watch how the events turn out to be.