Sanjay Dutt

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chhillar said:
Who is a terrorist?
  • The one who scares people
  • The one flies a plane into the building
  • The one who has weapons of mass destruction
  • The one who has enough arms and ammunition at home to kill hundreds of people
  • The who has close connections with terrorist groups
  • Sanjay Dutt
  • Blind fans of a Sanjay Dutt
    • If Manzoor and Zaibunnisa are convicted under TADA for "aiding and abetting" a terrorist act why not blind fans
Answer is all of the above!!!
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Chillar Sahab!

The one terrorist that perfectly fits the description above according to me is the Government itself.

1. Remember Pearl Harbor: Japanese Kamikazes flying planes into buildings and ships.

2. Remember Operation Bluestar. How Indira Gandhi terrorized the entire state of Punjab.

3. 9 governments including Indias' have Weapons of mass destruction.

4. India has the third largest army and enough ammunition to destroy the entire world. I am not even counting the 5 permanent members of the security council.

5. Remember India started the LTTE in Sri Lanka and the Muki Vahini in Bangladesh. LTTE is a globally recognized terrorist organization in the world. Mukti Vahini used to be the same in the late 60s until liberation of Bangladesh.

I do not want to have a debate on this. People know whats my position on this issue.

The TADA law has been controversial from the very beginning. It is the precedent of the patriot act of the United States. It place unchecked powers un the hands of the government.

Does anyone even have any idea how many people are being held in Indian prisons under TADA?

It gives enough power to the police to pick you up from the airport next time you land in India and extend your remand every 15 days as long as they feel that they still have more information to get out of you.

Why does a citizen need a license to have a gun?

Who gives the government the license to have guns?

If it were a fair system, the government would be required to through the same degree of checks and balances like an every day ordinary citizen.

So, if the government doesnt need a license to own guns, the citizens should not need a license either.

As far he is concerned for talking to the underworld on the phone, the entire bollywood does. Infact, private citzens also do. Example businessmen, corporators and contractors.

If I get a call from Dawood, would I be considered a terrorist?

I heard the tapes, and Sanjay Dutt was anyting but complacent.

We need to get rid of this "bolshevik mentality" against rich and successful people.

Sanjay Dutt got the reprieves not because he is rich and famous, because he could afford a good enough legal team to prove his innocense on certain charges.

Anyone with that kind of resources can do that in a court of law.

And if you think that this is an indication of a flaw in our legal system, then there must be a flaw with the constitution because it is the precursor of our legal system?

So, I guess ya'll will agree with me that the constitution is flawed, and thus needs to be gotten rid of.

HaHaHa :) :)
 
BTW Sanjay did not get just a call from Dawood he got assault rifles and ammunition...Sumit tun te mera bira Vakeel banwa ho se, you would be good replacement of dotard Jethmalamni
 
hello all...

first nd foremost its the policy of the American govt tht is at fault in promoting terrorism around the world...

nd if u ask me who is a terrorist,chiilar ji i say AFZAL is a terrorist....who is now being termed as a martyr...

abt the preventive detention laws not only TADA..but POTA(now repealed) nd the armed forces act in the north east r draconian laws...which led to unrest nd arrest of various innocent people...these laws were formulated to control terrorism but unfortunately indirectly fuelled its growth....
such laws give unlimited power to people especially at the lower ranks....who misuse it deliberately...nd the whole purpose of these preventive laws is defeated...

nd wht is the fault with the constitution??...constituion says the law is supreme.....
nd the CrPC also maintains tht the guilty shud be punished....if there was a flaw...sanjay dutt wud not have been punished at all....judge wud have said ki--appko baaizzat bari kiya jata hai...which hasnt happened...
 
I personally think that justice has not been served in this case and Sanjay Dutt is being let off too easy ...... he deserves a harsher sentence or his accomplices a more linient sentence .........

This is a mockery of justice in a democratic country ...... where all citizens are supposed to be same in the eyes of the Law
 
kharub said:
I donot think he was involved in terrorism .. but he is certainly a drug addict ... he sniffs coccaine like anything .... and the whole AK-47 episode was just becasue he wanted big boys toys .. big cares .. big guns ....... drugs..

His age that time was around 34 years. Do we think he was kid that time?

He was not and it was all planned and he was a part of conspiracy. After that also he caught talking to Chota Shakeel over the phone, He was in some hotel in Nashik.

Sniffing coccaine can be desire for 34 yr old but carrying AK 47 and Gernades is not joke, and he must beaware of those facts that time.

These all are excuses to save this bad guy.

His mother was muslim, so he has soft corner towards them and still he is well connected with D company
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chhillar said:
Come on More Saab! Let's don't go there.
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Theek hai sir ji, waise bhi abhi jeene kaa maan hai, uski maa dora jaa ke kee karunga.

isse terrorist naa toh paaliyan dora chod de..

Ek hafte unke lathen talle ke likad ge naa toh yeh adami baan jange.

hahaha :D :D :D
 
hello all...

so the issue here is tht he has been punished , but not punished enough....
nd the concept of equality before law is a negative one....the more positive one is the concept of equal protection of law...
in this case equal potection of law hasnt been extended as pointed out by chillar ji tht another person...a relatively unknown nd belonging to poorer background has been convicted on the same charges on which sanjay dutt has been let off...
 
Ha ha...now there are two more additions to the list of convicts:

- Shibu Soren
- Navjot Singh Sidhu

I think court are making headlines these days. And in the coming days there will some decisions on Nitish Katara, Jessica Lal and Mattoo case...
 
well the one case tht wud have really been a landmark,had the judgement nd the conviction been proper was the BMW case..where eventually the car turned into a truck...nd the Nanda guy went free...
 
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Hey! Guys, dont get me wrong!!!
I'm happy just cuz he's my fav. movie star....it certainly doesnt mean that I'm supporting him blindly; U know, final judgment is out & he freed from TADA Allegations but at the same time he found guilty in arms act.

I believe Court knows better then us that's why it gave justice to him, btw who the hell we're to rate him Terrorist!?

@Mor: Mor bhai, atleast I didnt expect from u, its really disappointin to read ur cheap comment about his mother, I feel as par u even India's most respected Hon'ble President Kalam also has links with D company & terrorist, what do u say???

Well, in last I feel we're wasting our time here since his case is over & now we're discussing in vein!!


I'm sorry if someone got hurt by my posts!


Thanks!

Rock on
Jit
 
cooljat said:
@Mor: Mor bhai, atleast I didnt expect from u, its really disappointin to read ur cheap comment about his mother, I feel as par u even India's most respected Hon'ble President Kalam also has links with D company & terrorist, what do u say???
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Can you substantiate with something that Kalam saab had some thing to do with Dawood ...if I read your English correctly bro!!!
 
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ik tai india mai acchi personality aale logga ki kami sai ar jo sai voae tham jail mai bhejan laag rhe so nue kyokar kaam chalega bhaio. mai tai nue kahu hu sanjay dutt nai prime minister banado india ko represent karnne do.
 
chillar bhaisaab,
mein angrezi mein thoda kamjor saa hoon isliye maafi chahta hoon :p
lekin mein nu bata reha tha ke Mor bhai ke hisab se har muslam terrorist hai...muje ye baat buri laagi...I agree that most of the terrorists belong to muslim community but still some of them're nice ppl.

aur haan mere hisab se India mein sabse respectable person Abdul Kalam hai!! isliye mein Mor bhai se nu pooche tha ke uske hisab se Kalam saab ke bhi connection honge D company & Terrorists se, kyunki vo bhi ek Muslim hai,

Now I think u got it right! thanks!

rock on
Jit


chhillar said:
Can you substantiate with something that Kalam saab had some thing to do with Dawood ...if I read your English correctly bro!!!
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cooljat said:
chillar bhaisaab,
mein angrezi mein thoda kamjor saa hoon isliye maafi chahta hoon :p
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  • If you think just sticking out your tongue on people will help you with your English, God bless you with your positive attitude!!!
  • As far as my views on Islam go, I don't think it has anything to do with terrorism...I have a problem with word Kaffir though...it might have a relevance to terrorism
  • Nargis?...good actress...no further questions please!!!
  • Jit Thakar...Cool Jat!!!
 
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chhillar said:
  • As far as my views on Islam go, I don't think it has anything to do with terrorism...I have a problem with word Kaffir though...it might have a relevance to terrorism
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  • Chritians call non-christian people, "Pagans."

    Jews call non-jewish people "goya."

    The three biggest religions on earth that preach tollerance have no tollerance for other faiths. It isnt just Islam. Islams other two brothers: Christanity and Judaism hate other religions with equal fervor.

    I am not trying to incite anyone. But, the point is that we cannot just go out of our way to make a scapegoat out of one problematic faith when it has its other contemporaries that have equally detestable views.

    Hinduism has its own drawbacks too. No faith is perfect. So lets just stop singling out one faith.
 
Chillar Bhaisaab,
ram ram!

I was wondering about this sarcastic reply from u but finally got it where I made the mistake. I feel sorry for this " :p " smily .....actaully I wanted to add this " :) " smily but I did this blunder by chance, so plz correct [ :p] with [:)] thanks!

Bhaisaab, keep guidin....kyunki aap jaise bade bahiyon ke supervision mein abhi aur bhi bahut kuch sikhna hai not merely English.


Rock on,
Jit


chhillar said:
  • If you think just sticking out your tongue on people will help you with your English, God bless you with your positive attitude!!!
  • As far as my views on Islam go, I don't think it has anything to do with terrorism...I have a problem with word Kaffir though...it might have a relevance to terrorism
  • Nargis?...good actress...no further questions please!!!
  • Jit Thakar...Cool Jat!!!
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In my view the rule of law should be there and Sanjay Dutt should be treated just like an ordinary citizen and must not go unpunished.

I am of the same view for Salman khan and party as well. These people are dictating the judiciary from last 20 years with their money. if they would have been an ordinary citizen they would have got the punishment.

Even our judiciary system is also bekau, judges love to have money with what ever means.
 
mann123 said:
In my view the rule of law should be there and Sanjay Dutt should be treated just like an ordinary citizen and must not go unpunished.

I am of the same view for Salman khan and party as well. These people are dictating the judiciary from last 20 years with their money. if they would have been an ordinary citizen they would have got the punishment.

Even our judiciary system is also bekau, judges love to have money with what ever means.
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Are you suggesting that the Judges are being bribed? Do you have any evidence to support it?

I still believe that any one with the resources to hire the best legal defense has a better chance of surviving the courts. You must know the difference that a good lawyer can make.

Look at this Vikas Yadav case. He got Ram Jethmalani to defend him. At the least he will miss the noose and go to Jail for 13 year. If Jethmalani tries harder it could be much lesser than 13 years.

I know Vikas Yadav personally. And he is a total menace. I think that the longer he is kept away from the society the better it will be for all of us.

Point is that the court does not give preferential treatment to people. I think that the judges are the most honest people in our society. You will never know of a judge who has assets that are unproportional to their income.

Lets give the credit to Sanjay Dutt's legal counsel instead of blaming the Judiciary.
 
Judges r bribed nd they willingly accept it...nd this is rampant especially in the lower courts....high court nd supreme court judges too r not immune from it...
last year there was a standoff between the CJ of Punjab nd Haryana HC nd the rest of the judges...the basis was -- CJ had raised his doubts over the conduct nd judgements of certain judges...judges had accepted memberships of expensive country clubs nd other gifts...which was not in accordance to their position...this is just one case....
moreover judiciary comprises not only of the judges but large number of understaff ,clerks etc who r corrupt to the core....
nd if u want hard evidence...dont pay ur traffic fine instead submit ur RC/licence to the cops...then go to the court to retrieve ur RC/licence...u will have ur evidence....

nd its manu sharma who has hired Ram Jethmalani not Vikas Yadav....
nd i wont be surprised if Manu Sharma walks free...knowing Jethmalani's legal brilliance...
 
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