Sex Education in India : Whats the importance : Yes or No ???

[sachinb]

Bilkul sahi kaha Nishant ne.

If parents and children share the blood relations,,,with the same analogy we can say that same concern can be between Teacher-Student also,,,,,Guru-Shishya parampara(tradition),,,,

its all about explaining things in right manner be it parents or be it teachers,,,,,,,

Prashant bhai if this is case then one should not send his child to school also. Bhai there r certain things which has to be tought by a teacher and some must be by parents.

 

[pnauhwar21]

Bhai Nishant and Pradeep - when I said 'would You teach her', it didn't mean literally as in you being a father teaching your daughter but rather would you let her have that knowledge through whatever means.

I rest my case now..ek hi topic pe isase jyada discussion sehat ke liye haanikaark siddh ho sakta hai !! I sincerely hope we don't have to watch Indian versions of Jerry Springer & Maury shows few years from now...

 

[pdpbeniwal]

Bhai Nishant and Pradeep - when I said 'would You teach her', it didn't mean literally as in you being a father teaching your daughter but rather would you let her have that knowledge through whatever means.

I rest my case now..ek hi topic pe isase jyada discussion sehat ke liye haanikaark siddh ho sakta hai !! I sincerely hope we don't have to watch Indian versions of Jerry Springer & Maury shows few years from now...

Prashant Bhai.....I only used 'father' just to make answer to yours hypothetical situation .....It literally didn't imply to a father....I used a very broad term there named 'blood-relation'...And yes, she should be let to have that knowledge through whatever medium....
.....Chalo hum bhi rest lete hai aapke saath saath......And I hope your hope will stay alive for a few years....But I'm afraid too your hope may not last after that......But anyway sex education won't be responsible for that....Sex education has got nothing to do with culture corruption....Culprits of culture corruption are others factors trapping us in on day by day basis...

 

[choudharyneelam]

My opinions on.....

we are Indians
we live in the great land of bharat, the land of kaamsutra.

Similar are my wordings as you wrote the complete post....but still few points I would like to argue here

India is not only known just for kamasutra….many other things that could be related to it but calling it land of kamasutra is unacceptable as it’s a part of it.

we will turn off the TV or change the channel if an AIDS or a condom ad airs.

pls share yr views, as to what you feel about it. i have given an idea as to what i feel about it. more will follow from my side in other posts.

Second thing…..Parenst turn off the tv or they change the channel whenever they watch any advt. or scene that cannot be watched commonly at same time as age and understanding level must be considered. As a girl child , though I’m very open to debate at many topics when these are discussed with some purpose (age does not matter for me at that time), but when I’m sitting with family to share the leisure time then I pay respect to the kind of relationship my parents share and I myself change the channel so that they don’t feel uneasy. Parents were brought-up in different environment but then they provided us different environment and feels very proud when they find me openly speaking on particular topic. Yahan baat adab ki aati hai…..openness should be there but not too much that parents find it uneasy to watch the programmes with children . Jaroori nahin ki parents sab kuchh saath baith kar dekhein to hi bacchon ko accha samjha paayenge…..My parents are restricted kind but then try to make me understand many things the way they can. Its upto me how I’ve to take it rather than asking parents each and every time to be more frank with me so that I can see the exact picture.

Sabse sharm ki baat to tab hoti hai…jab girls of my age make the fun of this topic.

I was asked by one of my Sir to write an article on the same for the magazine and it was submitted to him then whereas other girls were writing jokes, stories, philosophies, poetry, etc. When other girls came to know about it then their expression was…..hmmm(with raised eyebrows)….Neelam hi likh sakti hai itna daring….now I just wonder ki logon ki limited soch kab badlegi….aisi soch rakhne waale to sex education ko galat hi maanenge. All so rubbish.

Maine bas yahi notice kiya ki ladkiyan qualification wise to acchi hoti jaa rahi hain lekin jab soch ki baat aati hai to wahi limited kind. Aur ulte tareeke ke kapde, do chaar style maarke apne aap ko open kind batate hain.

This time I just wanted to put my argument on the two things that I explained above. About Sex Education I already had expressed my opinions, somewhere at other thread.

 

[padamarambabal]

Yes

Yes there should be such awarness in this education but there should be proper method for it
i thing mom of that child (girl can teach) and for boys it can compulsory in school
for girls the lady teacher should there and teach all physical changes and moralty of socity also

 

[choudharyneelam]

What I feel is that, many basic things are included in physical education which I studied as a part of my 11th and 12th syllabus. Some of the important topics discussed in that includes:

Understanding physical education
Importance of health though sports and physical efforts
Physical and harmonal changes in both genders
Need of sports or physical education at different stages of life
Family planning
Importance of physical education and sports
etc. etc.

If one go through these topics then he/she will find that these also include something related to sex education but it might not be conveyed properly to all and that's why need for such education is required in more systematic manner. In govt. schools the same subject is taught even at the middle class but only playing sports is given full consideration.

Its true that "Healthy Mind Resides In Healthy Body"
....but sometimes to develop a better healthy understanding one need to teach more like a science teacher has to teach more through experiments in lab and social science teacher by creating same situations like lok sabha/parliament to make the students understand the working of the same. Maps shown to students to teach where the particular place stands what he/she is telling through bookish words.......but don't take my words other way saying ki sex education need to be shown practical as some person said it at other thread......its not necessary bilkul waise hi jaise ki social science teacher bina hume Kashmir ghumaye ye batati hain ki that place is at the top of the India's Map and the most beautiful surrounded by beautiful hills, etc. For that detail we ourselves have to move around and explore the place as described by the teacher in class, may be far better than she could. Kashmir jaake ghoomna means getting little knowledge about its worst political disturbances but that doesn't mean that one should get involved with the bad thing to understand it in detail.

So, what way a person takes any issuse or doubt is all upto one's attitude apart from his/her learnings through different means. Teachings must go on, to mould the delicate brain/ emotions in the right and exact direction.

 

[brahmtewatia]

Bharam saab thanx for visiting my profile and I really appreciate that u really want to throw prakash on me with your never fusing torch (thoughts).u seem to be a pole star for a sailor in the storm..

If there are rats in the house then getting a Cat isn’t the only and right option, there are many other options…one thing is very much crystal clear that people here who support the sex education are also doubtful. if its not like that then a thread wouldn’t have been started over such an issue..

If there is any misinterpretation in the thread then the rope of misinterpretation is between the two hands….
Bhai saab, any concept depends on the mindset of the people. Do you think that the mindset here can adopt or can digest the concept of sex education? The problem lies in us only, in every case we compare our selves with westerns yo yo man…I still remember some lines of sumit dahiya (one old member of jl ) that Indians`ll always have a craze for 8 lane highways and blondes..

I really don’t understand for which schools this sex education is made? Sex education should b applied in govt schools, where there is no drinking water, no electricity, no sitting shelter, no books no teachers??? If this education is made for public schools then many MMS are already there…
[FONT=&quot] Where a simple education is dying, how this S** education can survive?[/FONT]

@ rupendera (also prashant)

dear, i am pleased to see a sense of subtlety in yr previous reply... to be honest on my stand, I too share the same apprehensions to quite an extent. i know for sure that this is a herculean task and may not see the dawn of light in the near future... that is the reason i left the subject wide open... i mean we don't have to necessarily discuss the issue only vis-a-vis imparting sex-education in schools. all i have asked in the thread is how shall we go about it. as rightly said by you, all the supporters, including me are also somewhere confused as to how and where and in what way shall we bring it to the knowledge of our youngsters, which in my opinion is very much imperative and is the CALL OF THE DAY. we all know our social stigmas and taboos. we all are well aware of our limitations and the bureaucracy and are part of a society where most of the populace is still living in stone age. mere undar koi surkhaab ke par nahin lage huey hein, neither do i belong to a vry mod outspoken family... however we, being the elite class of a particular community can surely discuss and share our opinion(s) on the issue which is as hot as the word goes. the idea is to bring forth finer nuances on the issue and give it a meaningful substance/outcome.

on your words… if you can compare your/our selves with westerns yo yo man and have a craze for 8 lane highways and blondes then why cant we talk like an extrovert and not to run away from this formidable and challenging issue. so please don't have a feeling that you are a lone sailor in the storm... and to quote you in your words, i would say that "if there are rats in the house then having a cat can be one of the most prudent options, if not the only one"... hope you'll surely agree on this.

Let me quote you few lines, earlier also quoted on another thread…

"what we call the beginning is often the end, and to make an end is to make a beginning. the end is where we start from"
"in every phenomenon the beginning remains always the most notable moment".

 

[brahmtewatia]

Pradeep bhai..bas ek baat ka jawab de do..Hypothetical question hai and don't take it as a personal question..couldn't find any other way to put it :

Suppose you have a daughter..paal pos ke badi hui..9th class mein pahunchi..now would you teach her 'How to have safe sex', 'What are the reproductive functions of male/female organs in detail' and what kind of sexual diseases can happen if she indulges in unsafe sex' or would you rather teach her about moral values by not indulging in these activities, not loosing her virginity before marriage, not aping wild west blindly.

Please don't answer just to win an argument. If you (and those 10% evolved fellow members) still believe the answer is the ones highlighted in bold, then no further discussion from my side. I guess we will just have to accept, everyone has their own way of thinking and ways to raise their children. I for one, am still conservative in my thinking on this topic if you want to label it as that.

“to be an extrovert, outspoken and being straight forward in your actions and thoughts” is one big thing i learnt from the “goras” in this part of sub-saharan africa from my past 10 years of existence… and believe me, i’ve successfully applied these traits in my personality. i never feel shy to express myself, be it my words or my actions… honestly to have this in you is a different mindset all together which is very much different from our (Indian) upbringing and i’m glad, my son is on my exact footsteps… long way to go !!!

prashant, with due regard to your thoughts... i'll try in my attempt to give a proper reason to your hypothetical question… I wud say “YES” I wud surely like to give this to my son… i’ve no daughter, but even if i had one, i’m sure my wife wouldn’t have left no stone unturned in addressing the issue to her in the most meaningful way, very obviously within the confines of decency and taking care of all her comfort levels. pradeep has given a very nice explanation to deal with the issue while maintaining the sanctity of relationships, however he left the bigger onus on teachers… no problem with that as this can be one of the most appropriate and THE BEST solution. at the same time a bigger task lie ahead of parents, they have to ensure a reasonable level of openness right from very beginning while handling such a trivial issue… upto what levels is again a personal perspective that has to take care of necessary comfort level of the siblings. (explained above). share and discuss it with yr child, it will help them at each and every step in the long run… remember parents are the best teachers... it reminds me of a very nice quote i read some time back…
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I am the Child. All the world waits for my coming. All the earth watches with interest to see what I shall become. Civilization hangs in the balance, for what I am, the world of tomorrow will be. I am the Child. You hold in your hand my destiny. You determine, largely, whether I shall succeed or fail. Give me, I pray you, those things that make for happiness. Train me, I beg you, that I may be a blessing to the World. – Mamie Gene Cole

[/FONT]he(she) is tomorrow… he(she) is the future we are working for… he(she) is part of the world’s most important generation. our generation must love them and win his(her) generation. his(her) generation in turn will determine whether it was worth doing.

i’ll try (if i can) to bring few lessons, being a part of sex-education program that is prevailing in this part of the world… i’ve asked my friends having elder siblings, to give those lessons to me… watch out !!!... to be continued !!!

 

[ssgoyat]

YES
Definately
100 % Agreed


The number of teenagers and young unmarried women going for abortions has risen sharply in India..

What is more scary is that unprotected sex can often expose the girl to HIV infection, other sexually-transmitted diseases, and complications later


On the other hand:
The abortion rate in the United States has hit a 30-year low, with the decline particularly marked among teens, who once had the highest rate of abortion.

.....................

Now please don't debate, that we (the one's saying YES), want to promote (safe) SEX otherwise..

Give it a thought..

 

[sidchhikara]

What I feel is that, many basic things are included in physical education which I studied as a part of my 11th and 12th syllabus. Some of the important topics discussed in that includes:

Understanding physical education
Importance of health though sports and physical efforts
Physical and harmonal changes in both genders
Need of sports or physical education at different stages of life
Family planning
Importance of physical education and sports
etc. etc.

I graduated from Senior Secondary school, my PTI did not teach me about sex.
Are you sure it was part of syllabus?

Maybe your PTI was a little Rangeela. He had a different perspective on push-ups!

 

[anilsinghd]

What I feel is that, many basic things are included in physical education which I studied as a part of my 11th and 12th syllabus. Some of the important topics discussed in that includes:

Damn !!! And i still remember my PTI asking us to write those stupid histories of basketball , volleyball and draw diagrams !

nothing close to waht you are telling

 

[choudharyneelam]

sex and sex education are very much different though they form the part of each other

I graduated from Senior Secondary school, my PTI did not teach me about sex.
Are you sure it was part of syllabus?

Maybe your PTI was a little Rangeela. He had a different perspective on push-ups!

Dear, first of all expand your horizons of thoughts....what sex education is all about......what all we study through different subjects are always inter-linked in one or the other way to provide us almost complete education.

maths, social science, language, general science etc. had given us all a new stream of commerce after some recommendations....same way this sex education comes from...so, better develop thoughts beyond inter-course of sex.....a kid also learns a little about sex education without even knowing the ABC of inter-course and related things.

And please,....it seems you never paid any regards to your teachers but I care about that a lot with great respect for all as none of my teachers till now responded like you showing the silly and unappealing attitude.

 

[choudharyneelam]

Damn !!! And i still remember my PTI asking us to write those stupid histories of basketball , volleyball and draw diagrams !

Even we all were asked the same things to do....but as I had gone through the book and its syllabus, that's why I had added one line in my response that....it might not be provided in the exact manner and that's why another need/requirement has taken place that revolving around sex education.

 

[annch]

Brahm ji, a query-Can sex education be formalized and contained in a few lessons at a particular age? It has so many aspects of behavioural science that on its own, it would be ineffective in serving its purpose. However, I do agree with you that it would be a good step in the right direction.
In an ideal situation, its the parents who introduce the kids ( as you said earlier) to be a responsible person in all the aspects of life including interaction with the opposite gender. At school, as in the western world, it would be nice to have counsellors, or teachers who would be comfortable enough to answer the doubts and questions of the students, beyond the textbooks.
A wise man learns from other people's mistakes, before the problem has hit our home....i mean literally, hit our home..

pls share yr views, as to what you feel about it. i have given an idea as to what i feel about it. more will follow from my side in other posts.

 

[sidchhikara]

Dear, first of all expand your horizons of thoughts....what sex education is all about......what all we study through different subjects are always inter-linked in one or the other way to provide us almost complete education.

This is correct, exactly my thoughts.
Push-ups in PT class can be linked to intercourse.

And please,....it seems you never paid any regards to your teachers

This is also correct. They all sucked.

 

[choudharyneelam]

This is correct, exactly my thoughts.
Push-ups in PT class can be linked to intercourse.


This is also correct. They all sucked.

to hell with such maniacs

I feel Brahm sir has introduced this topic at wrong place.....outcome is on the way with such sick psychologies

 

[sidchhikara]

to hell with such maniacs

I feel Brahm sir has introduced this topic at wrong place.....outcome is on the way with such sick psychologies

You are the one who's yelling and calling names ... and I am the maniac ... that is rich !
When you clear up your head, maybe we can discuss stuff and BTW ... it is not inter-course... its intercourse [non-hyhenated]..... and another thing .... they donot teach sex in PT class ... get a grip.

 

[choudharyneelam]

You are the one who's yelling and calling names ... and I am the maniac ... that is rich !
When you clear up your head, maybe we can discuss stuff and BTW ... it is not inter-course... its intercourse [non-hyhenated]..... and another thing .... they donot teach sex in PT class ... get a grip.

For your better understanding......sex education provide karne waale bhi bacchon ko sex nahin padhayenge ...so, don't mix the meaning of these two words.

And, thanks for the correction of my hypen being included there as mistake.

 

[pawankumar]

sex education in india

I think there is no need of such type of education, there is need of commercial education, child achive such type of education automatically, as the age of a child increase.

 

[anilsinghd]

For your better understanding......sex education provide karne waale bhi bacchon ko sex nahin padhayenge ...so, don't mix the meaning of these two words.

And, thanks for the correction of my hypen being included there as mistake.

cool off Neelam , just dont be word picker !


of course Sid is talking about the sex education and not sex, it is just his short and witty style which is making you believe the wrong way!