Should Prostitution be Legalised?

I think you are mixing the constitution and social practices. We were discussing if we legalized it or not..
I read it somewhere.. Pain is inevitable and suffering is optional.. So most women opted for suffering...

Lets not distract from the topic, We can't mock around to bring it to every town. We need to address the suffering of those innocent girls, women and their kids. By Legalizing it, It may give them legal shield so that nobody can exploit or harass them.

Dear Mor,
Sorry to interrupt u everytime ur are talking about constitution, constitution does not define all these thing. their are specific legislations like IPC, The Hindu Marriage Act, etc etc which are regulating all these things.
 
u r talking about which seduction, had not read upper red part.

m tlking abt that seduction thru which male have illegal sex with the female without any physical force n...............father can sue that male who seduced his daughter to have sex.

What i've read was something different as u told abt the law against seducing. So if there is any member from this broad area of law then pls share this knowledge with us so that we get to know what exactly the law says.
 
m tlking abt that seduction thru which male have illegal sex with the female without any physical force n...............father can sue that male who seduced his daughter to have sex.

What i've read was something different as u told abt the law against seducing. So if there is any member from this broad area of law then pls share this knowledge with us so that we get to know what exactly the law says.

ohh you are talking about seduction by words or promises ,about which kapil has written with analogy. if someone is consenting party and enough mature to understand the nature of act then its not offence it concensual in the eye of law and law is always based on facts and circumstances not on emotions. You are talking about social /emotional aspect not the legal.

yes father can sue the male who seduced his daughter to have sex but if someone agaist whom the offence has been commited will not complaint and depose then what can law do for them.
 
I think you are mixing the constitution and social practices.
Maybe so, but unable to explain the exact thing what I read as I forget abt the source n after few days when I want to tell people in relation to other thing then I cud not as the exact information is moved away, lost from my hands. Wud care abt it next time.

Till then, if anybody has the exact info. then pls share with us. Wud like to know it in detail.
 
You are talking about social /emotional aspect not the legal.

yes father can sue the male who seduced his daughter to have sex but if someone agaist whom the offence has been commited will not complaint and depose then what can law do for them.

Yes, that's why I had talked about the society in my earlier post. Many fathers hesitate to take such step. Anyways, as Yudhvir pointed that topic is getting on another track so better to remain on the main discussion.
 
Dear Mor,
Sorry to interrupt u everytime ur are talking about constitution, constitution does not define all these thing. their are specific legislations like IPC, The Hindu Marriage Act, etc etc which are regulating all these things.

But constitution does give framework for IPC. I am trying to say that everybody has right to earn their livings. In our constitution its not defined what are legal/illegal ways to do that. Our IPC and other legislation chapters define these things..

Majority of policy makers and other sensible people want it to be legalized and controlled. Constitution needs to give framework to define what is Illegal trafficking, Adultery, Prostitution, rape, Molestation etc..

Only problem is who'll be vocal to stand for them and make sure they get a fair deal and they become the part of mainstream society.
 
read various views on this thread. i am of the opinion tht legalising it wud only end up increasing the no. of prostitutes. even if legalised.. morally it'd still be looked down upon as a profession. im against the move.
unless thr's an urgent need for our country's unemployment rate to surpass in excellence.. :)
Recently a bench of Supreme court ..
What do you guys think how the legalisation of prostitutin will affect our society?
 
Shailendra ji,

I beg to differ slightly with the parallelism.

Like you said, Dharavi is a mindset. Its also a lifestyle that people find easy to maintain when given a choice between squalor and row houses, etc where they would pay for the amenities/facilities. They make a choice that suits them. Whereas prostitution starts as no-choice and ends with no-choices for majority of the women and children.

Regards

No Choice Anjoo ek majdoor 200 ki dhiyadi leke ghar jata hai shaam ko to wo kaam kya prostitution se ganda hai.
 
Bhai Raj every acts implemented have good as well as bad effects. But i think in case of legalising prosetitution bad effects may be low as campared to good. At least it will create some checks over the trafficing of destituted girls at the age of 10 or 12. and those who visiting to these area are visiting and will also visit whether it will legalized or not but least the condition and earning of those poor womens will increased in decrease income of pimps and police They will be able to get proper recognition.

Malik saab Trafficking kaise kam hogi i think reason u want to say is more young girls will get into this.

conditon tab tak nahi sudhar sakti jab tak wo is dhandey me hai.
 
Jitendra, it was not only legalised but state sponsored. Kautilya's Arthashashtra documents it. And do I need to remind that Kautilya was the chancellor of Chandragupta Maurya, who we try to appropriate as a Jat (probably with some merit, but it is a controversial thesis).

Below is an excerpt from a research paper on position of women in that period. And, let me clarify before anyone starts getting feisty, that this is specifically for culture vultures, of "hamaari sanskriti aur sabhyata" types. It is NOT my belief that just because something happened in the past or was part of our culture, then it should continue to remain so with/without merit.

Link:
http://www.asiaticsociety.org.bd/journals/June_2009/contents/Protiti shirin.htm

Excerpts:
Prostitution was a state-endorsed activity, and it generated revenues for the state. The prostitute, usually the madam or the head of a brothel and her deputy were given lump sums by the state to establish brothels and to buy jewellery, furniture, etc.
Nonetheless, like the dependent prostitute, the independent one also paid one-sixth of her income as tax to the state. [22] In times of financial trouble for the state, she had to pay extra revenue to the state and the independent ones were obliged to pay half of their income as tax. [23] It was clear that the prostitute’s income was a stable source of state revenue and to generate it, the state encouraged prostitution by direct methods. The courtesan had to possess a wide range of accomplishments ranging from speaking as is evident in the Ramayana [24] to painting to love-making.
To avoid her total exploitation, the Arthashastra granted the prostitute some legal projection. For example, the rape of a prostitute was regarded as a crime.
However, even the common prostitute was granted certain legal rights which would protect her. She was protected from cheating, robbery, abduction, confinement or disfigurement. Moreover, there was special legal care to protect the virginity of a prostitute’s daughter. A man had to pay a fine that was sixteen times higher than the fee of a visit to a prostitute if he deflowered her daughter by choice or by force

Bhai Dalal saab kisi-2 cheez padhe se bhai,

Er tu k kehna chawe se Govt isko support kare, fer te foreign currency bhi khoob aawe gi

Par nu bata fer isi govt. er pimps, middleman etc. me k fark rahgya.
 
Bhai Dalal saab kisi-2 cheez padhe se bhai,

Er tu k kehna chawe se Govt isko support kare, fer te foreign currency bhi khoob aawe gi

Par nu bata fer isi govt. er pimps, middleman etc. me k fark rahgya.

Bhai Raj, baat nyun se ke aade sanskriti ka ghana rolla hon laag raha tha. To "inspired by you", manne nyun sochi ki maadi si "gyaan-prapti" ki jaaye apni "sanskriti aur sabhyata" ke baare mein-

Ek chij te se India dhorey Sankriti wa aur bigaad jagi,

Aur baaki thoda aade si bhi lakhaaiye-

And, let me clarify before anyone starts getting feisty, that this is specifically for culture vultures, of "hamaari sanskriti aur sabhyata" types. It is NOT my belief that just because something happened in the past or was part of our culture, then it should continue to remain so with/without merit.
 
Bhai Raj, baat nyun se ke aade sanskriti ka ghana rolla hon laag raha tha. To "inspired by you", manne nyun sochi ki maadi si "gyaan-prapti" ki jaaye apni "sanskriti aur sabhyata" ke baare mein-
Aur baaki thoda aade si bhi lakhaaiye-

Bhai Dalal jo bujji usney te batawe koni gyan prapt karan chala gya

er to ki bhi isa gyan laya se

Er bhai tanne e kahi se Jo sadiyon pehley chalta aaya jaroori nahi aagey bhi chaley.:rock:rock:rock
 
Stillllllll.................

Shailendra,

Any Dharavi dweller who is ready to work harder for spending more in maintaining a better life style in a better housing facilities, will do so without any fear of discrimination or stigma of their once being in Dharavi. That would not be the case with a woman who might get a chance to get out or make her children move out of the vicious cycle of prostitution. She/ her family would always be discriminated against, and even more so in her rehabilitated respectable part of society.

Legalisation may not build inroads into status of this section of society. Reiterating from my earlier post, and similar thoughts of other members, legalisation would atleast ensure a better take home/ net salary for the hot job, with guaranteed health and other benefits. :)

Regards
Anju-ji (hey, what's with this whole 'ji' thingy??? :p)

...yeah, but don't you see that then "they" (in Dharavi) are ending up choosing something that is taking them back to the squalor? ...and the illegal, the unknown, and the repressed???... or maybe there is more to this that meets the simple eye (legalize/not-legalize) and is in fact a deadly, dirty nexus of the social underbelly that makes all the players in the mix, hooked (tied, chained) to some sort of evil cycle/circle?...

Prostitution too is likely the same "vicious circle" that legalization is not likely to make any inroads into 'sudhaaro-ing' the situation....
And also as to the 'starts as no-choice' thingy.... well, I don't really think the legalization is gonna help much those other folks that live constantly below the poverty line and/or sell their kids for maybe just a better one month of living (read: food).... It has been established for long now that the situation actually needs a bigger picture major change to really make a dent in the lives of these poor, "stuck" women...and their kids who may be aspiring for a better tomorrow.....

If one were to really take the same discussion about Prostitution and add the bigger gorilla in the room like.... health, aids, hygiene, epidemic, diseases, unawareness sort of issues....that I think would probably be the more relevant discussion and something that the concerned NGO's (n' these movies/docu-dramas) are anyways fighting for;..... something more relevant than worrying about givng them a 'legal' -Hey, I got a 'hot' job (no pun intended!) status per say....
 
Jiss din pataa chal jaata hai ki uss aurat kii pichli zindagi kya thi....toh samaj ke "izzatdaar", usse wahan rehne nahi denge jahan bhi woh 200 ki dhiyadi karti hogii yaa rehti hai......akhir sabko chinta hai kii uska kitna galat asar ho sakta hai unki "society" par.......aur, swad leniye line mein laag jaange.....

No Choice Anjoo ek majdoor 200 ki dhiyadi leke ghar jata hai shaam ko to wo kaam kya prostitution se ganda hai.
 
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Prostitution should not be legalized because;[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]-Legalization of prostitution is a gift to pimps, traffickers and the sex industry. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]-Legalization of prostitution and the sex industry promotes sex trafficking. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]-Legalization of prostitution does not control the sex industry.It expands it. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]-Legalization of prostitution increases clandestine, hidden, illegal and street prostitution. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]-Legalization of prostitution and decriminalization of the sex Industry increases child prostitution. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]-Legalization of prostitution does not protect the women in prostitution. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]-Legalization of prostitution increases the demand for prostitution. It boosts the motivation of men to buy women for sex in a much wider and more permissible range of socially acceptable settings. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]-Legalization of prostitution does not promote women's health. [/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Prostitution should not be legalized because;[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]-Legalization of prostitution is a gift to pimps, traffickers and the sex industry. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]-Legalization of prostitution and the sex industry promotes sex trafficking. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]-Legalization of prostitution does not control the sex industry.It expands it. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]-Legalization of prostitution increases clandestine, hidden, illegal and street prostitution. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]-Legalization of prostitution and decriminalization of the sex Industry increases child prostitution. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]-Legalization of prostitution does not protect the women in prostitution. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]-Legalization of prostitution increases the demand for prostitution. It boosts the motivation of men to buy women for sex in a much wider and more permissible range of socially acceptable settings. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]-Legalization of prostitution does not promote women's health. [/FONT]
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prostitution.jpg
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