Should we change jatland.com to hinduland.com?

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uda ne jutland dhore ek hampshire aur lancashire bhi se bhai

manne koynna bera patya, me te ek mollad jatt sunn, per sanchi kasuti kahun sun.

ya savitri-satyavan sunai se. nal-damyanti, ramayan-mahabharat bhi jatt ki si katha laage se.
 
sindhu ghati ki sabhyata ki script hai ke?

jo decipher koni hoti? koshish karo, va bhi ho jayegi!!
 
I agree lots of Jats today are muslim... lots of them are currently Rajputs(as you may know Jats, Ahirs and Gujjars were converted to formal Hinduism in 10 century in mount abu altar, those people sucumbed to rising orthodoxy of hinduism but we remained adhering to our own culture)... Then lots of them got converted to Sikhism 500 years ago(along with Khatris)... But we jats are remnant of our true culture which has continuity since vedic times..

But our goal is not to discuss all these people here... this site is specifically for Jats who are Hindus... [even though Jats never succumbed to Brahmanical orthodoxy, even though Brahmins called them Sudras in Puranas, even though Brahmans never listened to their call when they were matching swords with Muslim invaders like Muhammad bin Qasim and Gazni in multan, sindh and hindu kush...]

Strength of their resistance is evident in the fact that Haryana being so close to mulism ruler capital is so devoid of muslim population whereas they florished in other parts of country...

But these historical tragedies can't be used now for factitious purposes...
we are proud hindu JATS... capitalised Jats means more Jats than hindus... it shd remain jatland.com not hinduland.com...

Rakesh Malik, This kinds of comments will not be entertained here...

-vinod




rakeshmalik said:
its gud some people understand what's there to understand. its natural that others thinks that they have copyrite on this site n jats.
for them, did u people know that there are lot of muslim jats in this world. i wudn't expect from you to know it.
that why i write that let discuss about jatland and not hindu or muslim.
if people think that muslimjats are not jats than there is somethimg really wrong with there logic and reason.
in pakistan's punjab a lot of muslim jats, if u want i can write the goatra also.
this site is jatland, which mean area for jats and it include jats from UK,Canada,Fiji,pakistan or anywhere from the world.
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Vinod

TEWATIA JI IS TALKING ABOUT HIS CONVERSATION WITH ONE OF OUR COMMON FRIEND SOKO NORMAN A JAT OF ROMANIA,AND LOTUS IS TEWATIA JI' ID I GUESS.

AND HOW THESE Marut WERE JATS,Even INDRA WAS REFFERED AS JAT OR SUJAT.All these vedic gods were jats.
 
JATS WERE FOLLOWERS OF SHIVA AND PARVATI FROM BEGINING AND AUTOMATICALLY THEY WERE HINDUS FROM THE DAY FIRST.

Who told you that jats became hindusied in tenth centuray?
 
wht do know about thermodynamics? I hope u've come out of ice age and jat migrations?

u've dahiyas book?
30000 yrs is pretty long time and sangu dada just 1200 yrs is pretty short time? isnt that?
 
With the revival of hinduism by Sankrachrya et al,, brahmins felt need of having Kshatriya class becuz caste system had been leveld by rulers who followed Buddism and other central asian rulers... some tribes of Jats accepted Brahmanical order of society and thats what is Agni kunda story,,, 4 clans like parmar, chauhan etc were initial rajputs later on they became 36... these people were associated with Jats earlier.... I didn't say Jats were hindusied, I said some of them accepted Brahmin's conditions and became rajputs while some (WE) remained in republic society of Khaps... brahmins praised rajputs in turn rajputs gave brahmins dakshina... thats why Brahmins are "looked down" in Jat society not "looked up"... that why we some surnames common to both jats and rajputs... and Ahirs and Gujjars also were with them...

BUT THIS is digression from current topic... so plz stick to current discussion!!!

-Vinod

narenderkharb said:
Who told you that jats became hindusied in tenth centuray?
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Maruts were also in army of Rudra... who was more feared than respected...
I don't have any solid proof that they were jats but their charasteristic resemble Jats and few writers also believe in that...

-vinod

narenderkharb said:
JATS WERE FOLLOWERS OF SHIVA AND PARVATI FROM BEGINING AND AUTOMATICALLY THEY WERE HINDUS FROM THE DAY FIRST.
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not followers, siva himself was jat

he was pasupati. pashu palne wala. every jat is siva. he is a three horn god in indus valley surrounded by animals. and this symbol of jats was used every where outside india like swastik. this horn b4 jats frightened every one in the world.
 
so what kaka sri? how does 30000 years fit here??.... Sangu dada wasn't even 1200 years old.... he was much more recent only 22 generations back... so may be 500 years old!!!

-vinod

sktewatia said:
u've dahiyas book?
30000 yrs is pretty long time and sangu dada just 1200 yrs is pretty short time? isnt that?
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sktewatia said:
u've dahiyas book?
30000 yrs is pretty long time and sangu dada just 1200 yrs is pretty short time? isnt that?
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Sir, I think we should stick to the original discussion of the forum.
 
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People have found a seal with a ascetic sitting in meditation pose... and many believe it is siva... so if siva was indus valley god it would be interesting to note that similarity with vedic people... but nothing can be said concretely...

But lets stick to the topic!!!!

-vinod

sktewatia said:
he was pasupati. pashu palne wala. every jat is siva. he is a three horn god in indus valley surrounded by animals. and this symbol of jats was used every where outside india like swastik. this horn b4 jats frightened every one in the world.
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hi ram ram sab bahiya ne

[quote=vijay]Listen mister XYZ,

This jatland is for only Hindu Jats. The Jats were Hindu from centuries and will be always. Don't try to misguide us with history and all other stuff. There may be Muslim jats and God bless them but what you want from us. We are happy in our community.

If you you want to be closer to them feel free to join them but don't try to distract us.



RAM ram vijay ji

yo malik kun aga yade jo muslmana ki itni tarif kare se. agar yo jat se te ipe nu bhujo ne ek ye gade bhi thare ke dhal soche se. arr e te nu kahe do ek bhai agar tane itni mer ave se ne mule jata [they called muslimconverted jats] te tu bhi inhe me ral ja aur inhe tahi kame raach de ne thik kahi na. maine yo sab isliye likya ek kai be malik muslim bhi ho se jaise salim malik etc.... aur ya baat nahi hai te malik inki tarafdari baand kar de aar is site ka pura saawd chakh le thik age te plz isse suggestion apne thore rakhiye.

dont`mind buddy if u real jat:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:


thanks

jat risky after wiskey


Is that clear !!! [/quote]



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the indus valley is jat civilization

there are no traces of vanik culture here. no city can be traced as the capital city as if among jats no jat was the ruler. some body remrked among jats: who's the king? voice came nobody is the king. then again voice came every body is the king here. it was amongst jats that no clan was a big clan every clan had equal status, like the cities of indus valley.

among rajputs it used 2 b a big problem that chauhans are greater or lesser than xyz..

but jats treated every clan at par, even if some of them were lesser heard of. it was only during the marriages that they made fun of each other but knowingly, deliberately and not really. it was just as a joke.
 
no city in indus valley can be termed as capital

and it can never be. such a refined system like jats can be born in peaceful and prosperous area only. must have been devised by some great social scientist. not sudden but after a lot of research.
 
Skji,
It was a sumerian king who said "who is the king? and who is not the king?"....
that means they were all kings but still they were kingless... that points to republic society of nomadic tribes... most of the name for Jats mean king, chief in local language etc...

But its ridiculous to say indus V C was jat civilization... we might be descent of same people but lots of other things may have evolved later on...

Anyway, lets stick to the topic... Sorry I myself have been digressing a lot!!!

-vinod


sktewatia said:
there are no traces of vanik culture here. no city can be traced as the capital city as if among jats no jat was the ruler. some body remrked among jats: who's the king? voice came nobody is the king. then again voice came every body is the king here. it was amongst jats that no clan was a big clan every clan had equal status, like the cities of indus valley.

among rajputs it used 2 b a big problem that chauhans are greater or lesser than xyz..

but jats treated every clan at par, even if some of them were lesser heard of. it was only during the marriages that they made fun of each other but knowingly, deliberately and not really. it was just as a joke.
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come on, indus valley civilization a jat civilization... hadd ho gayi yaar... lets think outside of box and listen to people who have done research on this... but beware of everything... see everything with questioning mind.. everyone speak for his community and tries to prove his points... just look out for facts and try to fit as in jigsaw problem... its not appropriate to talk in sense where one speaks jat culture in jutland of netherland and in next sentence says indus valley a jat civilization... then in third sentence says hungary was founded by hengi jats and than come back and mentions conquest of Egypt by Jats in 600BC... these were nomadic people... kins of each other in term of social resemblence... same ethnicity but different group.... those huns who fought with Attila weren't same huns who came to India(hephthalite).... there were member of same nomadic culture but diffrent people... lets be moderate...

But I must add that recent finding of ancient sites in haryana, rajasthan and gujrat point to antiquity of people living in this region... so no doubt we have been living here since those days but that doesn't contradict incoming of people later on... u know people like to travel and mingle...

-vinod


narenderkharb said:
Vinod.>>>>Ridiculous

what a rediculous reply?

Vinod can you explain your statement a bit how it is ridiculous
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Vinod
you still did not reply my question how you find INDUS VALLEY A NON JAT CIVILIZATION.

Which researcher you trust? let us see how much sound your researchers are?

Who according to you can be the inhabitant ?come on vinod if you belive some thing you must know the reason for that.
 
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