sunitahooda
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Ballu thare jissya ki soch kai manne Deepika ki lambi post ka jawab na diya....par pachhtava konya iss Social Responsibilty ko sarcasm-sarcasm kar ke PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY bana diya
Should we help beggers?
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Chalo chhodo jo hogyaa so hogyaa,,,,
ib nyu batao ke aapka ke vichaar:-
1. Who all should be included in the category of beggers-Kam se kam mujhe to sabhi begger najar aate hain
2. Should we help beggers- Mere hisaab se hamein apne saathiyon ki madad karni chaahiye
ib nyu batao ke aapka ke vichaar:-
1. Who all should be included in the category of beggers-Kam se kam mujhe to sabhi begger najar aate hain
2. Should we help beggers- Mere hisaab se hamein apne saathiyon ki madad karni chaahiye
Ballu thare jissya ki soch kai manne Deepika ki lambi post ka jawab na diya....par pachhtava konya iss Social Responsibilty ko sarcasm-sarcasm kar ke PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY bana diya
sunitahooda
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Mere log out hotteye kyu ye goli si girdda dyo ho
mai to jali thi
Last ki 3 post meri konya Ballu ki bi thi
Laagta tai konya bohot holi....waise aap "HOLI" ki baat karo so akk
mai to jali thiLast ki 3 post meri konya Ballu ki bi thi
Laagta tai konya bohot holi....waise aap "HOLI" ki baat karo so akk
@ sunitaji
Pls aap shanti banaye rakkhein...
deepika chali gayi hai...
last ki 3 posts abb aapki hi hain..
BAHUT HO LI....
bas eeb aur post quote karke rang birangi holi na khelein....nivedan hai
virendernarwal
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विषय पर चर्चा विवाद से नही वाद से होनी चाहि
बडा घर बडे दरवाजे….बडे लोग बडी बात……दानवीर कर्ण….स्वर्ग मृत्यु…….राम कान्ही पैर……रिंगीट….मैनें के तेरी घिंटी दबा दी….? शब्द जाल ओर आरोप-प्रत्यारोपों से एक दूसरे को कम्बल मे लपेट-लपेट के मारने की अनावश्यक मानसिकता विकशीत किये जा रहे हैं।
आप दोनों को शायद ये आभास जरूर होगा कि शिक्षित व्यकित्व होने के बावजूद, आप जाटलैंड्र्स के लिये हास्य का पात्र बनते जा रहे हैं। विषय़ क्या है, उसकी पूर्ति के लिये हमे क्या करना है ओर करना चाहिये या नही, इसके उपर ध्यान केन्द्रित न कर एक दूसरे पर अनावश्यक छिंटा-कशी मे मशगुल है।
तन-मन व धन से अपनी योग्यता व परिस्थिती के अनुसार सामुहिक हित या व्यक्ति विशेष के लिये किया गया दान या सहयोग अस्तेय होता है !
एक दूसरे को "बेबे-बेबे" कह कर संभोधित करना ओर साथ-साथ तल्ख शब्द-बांणों ओर आरोप-प्रत्यारोपों से इस कहावत को बल देना कि “मूंह मे राम-राम बगल मे छूरी”, उमर, शिक्षिता, स्वभाव और अनुभव की झलक दे रहा है।
विषम परिस्थितियों में भी सामान्य व्यवहार हमारे धैर्य की परीक्षा समान होता है !
समय या उर्जा-शक्ति व्यर्थ की बातों में नष्ट न करके सार्थक बातों मे ध्यान देना चाहिये।
अपनी बात को हर हाल में सही ठहरा कर आखिर क्या हासिल करना चाह रहे हैं आप……?
लगता है आप लोगों की दुनिया कई दिनों से सिर्फ़ आरोप-प्रत्यारोप तक ही सिमट कर रह गई है…..क्या सक्रात्मक सोच का अन्य सदुपयोग नहीं हो सकता ?
मैं-तू-मैं के बीच मतभेद व अविशवास की भावना पैदा होती है…..कृप्या ऎसे शब्दों का प्रयोग करें जिसमे अपने प्रति संतोष व दूसरों के प्रति करूणा भाव हो। विषय पर चर्चा विवाद से नही वाद से होनी चाहिये…अतः मैं आप दोनों से पुनः नम्र अनुरोध करता हूं कि आप एक दूसरे के प्रति अपने दृष्टिकोण को सुधारें ओर हमें सख्त एवं अप्रिय कार्यवाही करने पर मजबूर न करें।
आदर सहित।
वीरेन्द्र नरवाल
आदरणीय सुनीता जी एवं दीपिका जी,
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बडा घर बडे दरवाजे….बडे लोग बडी बात……दानवीर कर्ण….स्वर्ग मृत्यु…….राम कान्ही पैर……रिंगीट….मैनें के तेरी घिंटी दबा दी….? शब्द जाल ओर आरोप-प्रत्यारोपों से एक दूसरे को कम्बल मे लपेट-लपेट के मारने की अनावश्यक मानसिकता विकशीत किये जा रहे हैं।
आप दोनों को शायद ये आभास जरूर होगा कि शिक्षित व्यकित्व होने के बावजूद, आप जाटलैंड्र्स के लिये हास्य का पात्र बनते जा रहे हैं। विषय़ क्या है, उसकी पूर्ति के लिये हमे क्या करना है ओर करना चाहिये या नही, इसके उपर ध्यान केन्द्रित न कर एक दूसरे पर अनावश्यक छिंटा-कशी मे मशगुल है।
तन-मन व धन से अपनी योग्यता व परिस्थिती के अनुसार सामुहिक हित या व्यक्ति विशेष के लिये किया गया दान या सहयोग अस्तेय होता है !
एक दूसरे को "बेबे-बेबे" कह कर संभोधित करना ओर साथ-साथ तल्ख शब्द-बांणों ओर आरोप-प्रत्यारोपों से इस कहावत को बल देना कि “मूंह मे राम-राम बगल मे छूरी”, उमर, शिक्षिता, स्वभाव और अनुभव की झलक दे रहा है।
विषम परिस्थितियों में भी सामान्य व्यवहार हमारे धैर्य की परीक्षा समान होता है !
समय या उर्जा-शक्ति व्यर्थ की बातों में नष्ट न करके सार्थक बातों मे ध्यान देना चाहिये।
अपनी बात को हर हाल में सही ठहरा कर आखिर क्या हासिल करना चाह रहे हैं आप……?
लगता है आप लोगों की दुनिया कई दिनों से सिर्फ़ आरोप-प्रत्यारोप तक ही सिमट कर रह गई है…..क्या सक्रात्मक सोच का अन्य सदुपयोग नहीं हो सकता ?
मैं-तू-मैं के बीच मतभेद व अविशवास की भावना पैदा होती है…..कृप्या ऎसे शब्दों का प्रयोग करें जिसमे अपने प्रति संतोष व दूसरों के प्रति करूणा भाव हो। विषय पर चर्चा विवाद से नही वाद से होनी चाहिये…अतः मैं आप दोनों से पुनः नम्र अनुरोध करता हूं कि आप एक दूसरे के प्रति अपने दृष्टिकोण को सुधारें ओर हमें सख्त एवं अप्रिय कार्यवाही करने पर मजबूर न करें।
आदर सहित।
वीरेन्द्र नरवाल
Virender nice advice and thoughts.I will also ask both to remember that we should not increase the distance between our hearts.
Coming to the topic Navin is doing wonderful job by trying to provide education to street childern, who otherwise would have turned to begging or crime. Help the person in distress but see that the person does'nt make begging his career. I am for helping them to stand up.
narendersingh
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This is a dirty profession
They are professional.In India God is so kind.The creatures get there square meals in the name of God.Of course we should discourage begging.
I recall ,in 1998 I was going to college of my brother for some work.In front of me On man and a kid approached me, medical prescription in their hand.They yelled they had no money to purchase the medicine.They asked money.I refused. That time I was in hurry.He asked me Rupees 80. I took him to the medical store got him the medicines and proceeded further. when I came back they were busy with some other person like me. I went near him and told him.He had no answer. I went to the Medical Hall.There I learned that they had returned the medicines and took the cash.
In this case what will you say.Should we help the beggers. No, we should not.They should not be helped and should be discouraged.
They are professional.In India God is so kind.The creatures get there square meals in the name of God.Of course we should discourage begging.
I recall ,in 1998 I was going to college of my brother for some work.In front of me On man and a kid approached me, medical prescription in their hand.They yelled they had no money to purchase the medicine.They asked money.I refused. That time I was in hurry.He asked me Rupees 80. I took him to the medical store got him the medicines and proceeded further. when I came back they were busy with some other person like me. I went near him and told him.He had no answer. I went to the Medical Hall.There I learned that they had returned the medicines and took the cash.
In this case what will you say.Should we help the beggers. No, we should not.They should not be helped and should be discouraged.
yes sir.....naveen bhai jaisse kuch mutthi bhar log ho jaaye duniya me to kumm se kum koi baccha beggar hi nahi banega.i am so proud to know him and really inspired by his good deeds.
vn ji aajkal aap kunse aashram me er kunse baba ke paas ja rahe hai..atti uttam vichar.me to bahut hi jyada prabhaavit ho gyi.....aisse aisse do shabad to aap likh hi diya karo ji.hum tuchh praani bhi kimme gyan ki ganga si me hath dho legge ji.
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basant
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Nuclear Fusion Vs Nuclear Fission.
Both are fusion only and can be combat source of inspiration to others and productive if use their quintessence ideology in proper layout which ultimately revolves around upliftment for poorest of poor. Just imagine, keeping egoism aside and using their binding energy for this societal cause.
Both are fusion only and can be combat source of inspiration to others and productive if use their quintessence ideology in proper layout which ultimately revolves around upliftment for poorest of poor. Just imagine, keeping egoism aside and using their binding energy for this societal cause.
Main aapse sahmat hun Narwal ji,,,,,,,,,,,vaad mein jo shakti hai uski kalpana karna bhi naa-mumkin,,,,,,,,aajkal hamaari bahne kuchh adhik josh mein rahti hain,,,,,vaise ek maayne mein dekhe to ye naari-shakti ka bhi parichay deta hai:rock
Now lets focus on the subject,,,,,,,mere hisaab se to ham sabh Bheekhari hain ham sab Beggers hain,,,,,,,ho sakta hai kisi aur bhai ya bahan ke kuchh viprit vichaar ho
Now lets focus on the subject,,,,,,,mere hisaab se to ham sabh Bheekhari hain ham sab Beggers hain,,,,,,,ho sakta hai kisi aur bhai ya bahan ke kuchh viprit vichaar ho
sunitahooda
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Basant Ji, Narwal Ji, Sachin Ji,
I'm doing my bit for this social cause and Requesting others to help the needy as per your earning and whatever one can afford. But CHOOSE THAT NEEDY PERSON WISELY
I'm doing my bit for this social cause and Requesting others to help the needy as per your earning and whatever one can afford. But CHOOSE THAT NEEDY PERSON WISELY
narendersingh
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Channelise energy in proper way
We should channelise or energy in a proper way,through proper channel. For a noble cause. Giving to pandit (A recognised Beggar who established himself).Usney kamaney key leeyee logaun kee dharmeek bhawnaun kaa estemaal kiyaa,usko apney dhang sey channelise kar key sthapeet kar leeya.
Hindu dharam kee vaastveek paribhaasha hee badal dee.
Hum sab jaat bhodh hai.Maharaja harshvardhan with his kingdom had embrased Bhudhissm. Hamaree bhaavnaa bhudhism sey kaaphee taalmell khaatee hain.
Aaj Jaat dusreee biradaree ko mdekh kar dheekhavey kee taraf badh raha hai.He is loosing his basic atticate and culture.Sachey insaan sey sabb dartey hai. Jaat apnee maryaadaa sey path bharasth hotaa jaa raha hai.
usey chetney kee aavshayaktaa hai
We should channelise or energy in a proper way,through proper channel. For a noble cause. Giving to pandit (A recognised Beggar who established himself).Usney kamaney key leeyee logaun kee dharmeek bhawnaun kaa estemaal kiyaa,usko apney dhang sey channelise kar key sthapeet kar leeya.
Hindu dharam kee vaastveek paribhaasha hee badal dee.
Hum sab jaat bhodh hai.Maharaja harshvardhan with his kingdom had embrased Bhudhissm. Hamaree bhaavnaa bhudhism sey kaaphee taalmell khaatee hain.
Aaj Jaat dusreee biradaree ko mdekh kar dheekhavey kee taraf badh raha hai.He is loosing his basic atticate and culture.Sachey insaan sey sabb dartey hai. Jaat apnee maryaadaa sey path bharasth hotaa jaa raha hai.
usey chetney kee aavshayaktaa hai
A few days back I met a person who has put the donations received in his temple to good use. This man after taking retirement from his family business set aside 3 acres of land for charitable purposes and built a Temple.
After sometime he observed many children will turn up again and again at the time of distribution of Prasad. Most of such poor children, in their childhood have nothing to aspire except wander aimlessly, remain illiterate and fall into bad company. Appalled at the sight of such children, wandering around their complex he thought of educating such children alongwith some incentive to motivate them to come to study.
He started a school for their free education with breakfast, mid-day meals, uniforms, study material and healthcare. He motivated their families also which bore fruits and the school now has 480 such children. Even their parents are being supported with vocational training, social awareness and Life Insurance covers.
If all temples getting lots of donations start such activities instead of making golden chairs and costly ornaments for their deities, so many needy people can get help and number of beggars will reduce.
After sometime he observed many children will turn up again and again at the time of distribution of Prasad. Most of such poor children, in their childhood have nothing to aspire except wander aimlessly, remain illiterate and fall into bad company. Appalled at the sight of such children, wandering around their complex he thought of educating such children alongwith some incentive to motivate them to come to study.
He started a school for their free education with breakfast, mid-day meals, uniforms, study material and healthcare. He motivated their families also which bore fruits and the school now has 480 such children. Even their parents are being supported with vocational training, social awareness and Life Insurance covers.
If all temples getting lots of donations start such activities instead of making golden chairs and costly ornaments for their deities, so many needy people can get help and number of beggars will reduce.
Uncle jee everytime i read any of ur reply it leaves me admiring ur wisdom.You have picked a really good point here.It reminded me of a businessman in ludhiyana who was in the limelight for dontaing diamond studded ornamants to balajee worth three crore.He could actually do lot of for poor people.
It remind me a businessman who donated a chair weighing Ton of Gold ( worth approx. 150 Crores ) to Sai Baba Temple.
"Originally Posted by deepika
It reminded me of a businessman in ludhiyana who was in the limelight for dontaing diamond studded ornamants to balajee worth three crore.He could actually do lot of for poor people."
I was precisely referring to these incidents. Amitabh Bachchan also donated a silver rat in some temple. Just imagine how many needy could get help from these only.
Sunita I know you and Navin are doing wonderful job in providing education to the street children, keep it up.
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anilsinghd
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I have always said ( infact i did mention it my post , thanks to them being so long , nobody probably cares to rea d them carefully i believe )that there is no dearth of resources.
It is just that we need transfer them to the place where they are redundant to the place where they are needed. Important is to find people who can act as the resource transfer agents. That is what we are missing badly!
)that there is no dearth of resources. It is just that we need transfer them to the place where they are redundant to the place where they are needed. Important is to find people who can act as the resource transfer agents. That is what we are missing badly!
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