Sino-Indian Relations:

[raj2rif]

Sino-Indian relations are looking good what is happening currently. With both India and China emerging as new regional/global economic power, this looks to be a very good trend for India. What could be Chinese interests in India getting permanent seat in UNSC? How would it help China? What would happen to Sino-Pakistan relations in such an eventuality? These are some of the obvious questions needs to be understood.

Let us have your views on this subject as it may have far reaching implications on India's development as a regional/global power.


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[amitdahiya]

For the Chinese there are no permanent relationships, there are only permanent interests. A chinese journalist in London asked me why India was pursuing nuclear weapons and stated that this was agreat irritant to China. I mentioned to him that we were the only country in the world whose territory was occupied by a hostile nuclear power and that alone was reason enough to obtain nuclear weapon capability. His response was a shocking eye opener. He put down his briefcase and putting his index fingers at the corners of his eye lids he pulled them outwards and upwards making himself even more mongloid and then he said "look at the eyes of the people of the terriotories retaken by us, their eyes are like mine not yours. All the lands whose peoples eyes are like ours, are a chinese people and their lands are chinese land. I asked him when his government was planning to take Alaska from the Americans on the strength of his logic but his reply was interrupted by the announcement of his flight. Consider if you will the strength of his twisted logic, their long term objective could well be to take everything upto Mussoorie, Nainital and D arjeeling including the entire northeast which is up in flames on the strength of their unabating moral and arms support

I feel col Sahib that the Chinese will make only cosmetic concessions to India and extract further advantages in terms of favoured nation status in trade. They will then make massive inroads into the indian markets eroding our ecnomy which has few products of competitive price and quality further weaking our position.

 

[mit]

indo china relation

Respected elders and my dear friends i am not trying to say that what you people had mentioned in the post about india china relationship is wrong,but at the same time i would like to mention some facts about our new friend china i have known, u guys will astonished to know that china is backing up pakistan on each of the war front opened by pak against our country from weapons to the gadgets needed to suryvive in extreme conditions,also we all know that pakistan is totaly zero whent it comes to naval army it's china which provides pakistan the navy power, i have been told pesonlay by one of the pakistani army officer's son studying here in uk with me who's dad is mush's(Gen pervez musharaff) close advisor.The current transition in china's policy with india is a part of boom in economy which china is about to achieve for which china has to find a market in asia-pacific region to capture and sale its product without less effort of transportation and apparently india is the world's biggest market with pontential to buy almost anything, .it's china's business policy and necessasity to act the way it is acting.i would say that china is a sort of a enemy which can never be trusted.

 

[rkumar]

I don't think we should worry too much of China. May be in short run they will flood Indian markets, in long run India will be the one most benefited. Like 1962 war made India stronger, next economic engagement with China will be much more useful... Avoiding an adversary is not going to help us..Let us confront China sector by sector..This is the only way to make India strong.. I will therefore support Free trade agreement with China. Any Chginese Trade invasion will ultimately awake Indian masses... I think we need that bitter pill to make India strong...

RK^2

 

[rameshlakra]

startling reavalation

Chinese have never been aggressive people, infact they have a very close similarity with indian culture. the buddhist connection , frequent travellors ..the silk route and the ancient civilisation.

Policies of nehru had forced them to smack india. One cant meddle in the internal affair of a country and that too without a substantive strong defence.Nehru had been a great admirer of them but he was pretty confused with state policies and ethics. He thought that the chinese would appreciate his taking sides with tibetans, or atleast UN, US or WEST will, and notice INDIA.His whole calculation of world politics went haywire as he thought on the lines of mahatma gandhi's non-violence performing onto the world-stage after a successful houseful run back home.

chinese are not to be blamed for all that they have done to us, it was our poor foreign policies that drove them to it.

Our foreign policies are adhoc and old and there is no thinking about long term strategy and planning, infact it is all time worst . Nehru failed but atleast there was some planning, a poor planning is better then no planning at all.What a mess they are going to make of Nepal. she is going to add onto the list of pakistan, bangladesh and myannmar.

we have to be careful and a bit sceptical but need not be afraid .Drawing a long term strategy and foreign policy would see us long, rather then be apprehensive of the golden oppurtunity that comes our way.grabing it is a right option.

 

[anujkumar]

I think it's a very positive development. It was hard to imagine china oking india's bid for UNSC permanent seat. Also, they have been very stubborn on Sikkim so far, which is I think give and take for indian stand on Tibbet, which India very well understand can't go anywhere.

Also, about trade I very much like Rajendra Jee views. You have to be competitive in global economy, if you can't compete, there is no point in keeping the doos closed.

 

[rkumar]

Lot of water has flown under the bridge since Chinese Premier left India after his so called successful visit. India has signed a defence agreement with USA and then wide range of other agreements including nuclear cooperation. This makes the dynamics of our relations quite complex and tricky as well. There have been lots of discussions in media on the new international power equations. I think real test of Indian smartness would be in exploiting these relations to our advantage now. Signing agreements is just first step. May be things would unfold further as implementation of various agreements start. Things will work to our advantage till our leaders are India centric. Ultimately it’s the language of power, which is understood universally. A word of caution for India is that while we go on fast track international diplomacy, we should put our house in order. Recent events like Mumbai floods, Bombay high fire etc does not convey a very respectable image of India. 99 good things do not attract people as much as one bad thing repels them.

RK^2

 

[dhruvdahiya]

Trusting China...sorry

Respected Virendra sir,

It may be the need of the hour for India to further the cause of peace or development in her own interest,keeping in mind the delecate balance of power in the world but it will be Suicidal for India to assume that CHINA CAN BE A FRIEND OF INDIA. Let us remember the famouse saying," ONCE A CHEAT IS ALWAYS A CHEAT." So let us talk to china and keep her in good humor but let us never forget the above BOTTOMLINE.


Due respect

 

[haryanajat]

A chinese journalist in London asked me why India was pursuing nuclear weapons and stated that this was agreat irritant to China. I mentioned to him that we were the only country in the world whose territory was occupied by a hostile nuclear power and that alone was reason enough to obtain nuclear weapon capability. His response was a shocking eye opener. He put down his briefcase and putting his index fingers at the corners of his eye lids he pulled them outwards and upwards making himself even more mongloid and then he said "look at the eyes of the people of the terriotories retaken by us, their eyes are like mine not yours. All the lands whose peoples eyes are like ours, are a chinese people and their lands are chinese land.

That's the same bs employed by Japanese when they invaded asian countries.
Chinese cannot be trusted. With one hand they help pakistan and with other hand they extend friendship to India.

 

[brad]

there can be nothing good abt sino-india relationship. the gap between china and india just too much to have any fair or meaningfull relationship other than that of a master-slave.

 

[ramksehrawat]

China. like USSR or for any communist state for that matter. is not what it looks in realty. There are so many enemies within and the day they are successful to oust communists, China will go the USSR way. The day that happens India will be the most powerful country in South Asia, provided before that Indian politicians are not successful in destroying the good work done during the last few years. India is simmering from within and the main reasons are government not doing anything for infrastructure especially power, roads and water; not creating enough jobs and the issue of reservations may explode anytime and the pogrom cannot be ruled out. Hence, the issue here is how long the two country can keep the irritants suppressed. Whichever country is able to keep the enemies within under control will be the ultimately winner. As regards bilateral relations China always regard itself as the biggest power of the region (and they are). The facade may look smooth, somewhere deep inside the chinese are scornful of India and we will never trust them. For us they will always remain the first country that attacked us.