spare time for these brave men

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Lt. Saurabh Kalia of 4 JAT Regiment of the Indian Army
laid down his life at the young age of 22 for the
nation ,

while guarding the frontiers at Kargil. His parents,
indeed the Indian Army and nation itself, lost a
dedicated,
honest and brave son. He was the first officer to
detect and inform about Pakistani intrusion. Pakistan
captured
him and his patrol party of 5 brave men alive on May15
, 1999from the Indian side of LOC.

They were kept in captivity for three weeks and
subjected to unprecedented brutal torture, evident
from their bodies handed over by Pakistan Army on June9 ,1999 .
The Pakistanis indulged in dastardly acts of
inflicting burns on the Indians with cigarettes, piercing their ears
with hot rods, removing their eyes before puncturing
them and breaking most of the bones and teeth. They even
chopped off various limbs and private organs of the
Indian soldiers besides inflicting unimaginable physical and
mental torture. After 22 days of torture, the brave
soldiers were ultimately shot dead. A detailed post-mortem
report is with the Indian Army.

Pakistan dared to humiliate India this way flouting
all international norms. They proved the extent to
which they can degrade humanity. However, the Indian
soldiers did not break while undergoing all this
unimaginable barbarism, which speaks volumes of their
patriotism, grit, determination, tenacity and valour
âEUR" something all of India should be proud of.

Sacrificing oneself for the nation is an honour every
soldier would be proud of, but no parent, army or
nation can accept what happened to these brave sons of India.

I am afraid every parent may think twice to send their
child in the armed forces if we all fall short of our
duty in safeguarding the PRISONERS OF WAR AND LET THEM MEET
THE FATE OF LT. SAURABH KALIA.
It may also send a demoralising signal to the army
personnel fighting for the Nation that our POWs in Pak
cannot be taken care of. It is a matter of shame and disgust
that most of Indian Human Rights Organisations by and
large, showed apathy in this matter.

Through this humble submission, may I appeal to all
the civilized people irrespective of colour, caste,
region, religion and political lineage to stir their
conscience and rise to take this as a NATIONAL ISSUE?

International Human Rights Organisations must be
approached to expose and pressure Pakistan to
identify, book and punish all those who perpetrated this heinous
crime to our men in uniform. If Pakistan is allowed to
go unpunished in this case, we can imagine the
consequences.
 
It is a pity that the HR agencies raise so much of hue and cry even in the case of captured terrorists and criminals but remain silent when it comes to POWs. In theory POWs are to be treated with respect under Geneva Convention but in practice what happens is for all to be seen in Shahid Saurabh Kalia's case. In spite of all these apaty on the part of authorities, Shahid Saurabh Kalia is a hero for average Indian. My respects to him.
 
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You are right sis i dunno why do our gov dont have any dignity i mean after all this henious war crimes these pakistani bastards had done with our brothers why we even allow pakistani embassy in india no pakistani should allowed to india no meet no diplomatic relationship a single indians death should be treated a death of PM or head of a country i mean this is the flaw in our system and society we chat about every thing under the sun but i had seen this in my own house when i want join army my family said no it's dangerous dont go for it.if every one will think like this than we wont have any one to join army very soon. all our youngsters are getting involved in service industry no one want to join army nowdays may be becoz of this attitude of our society and gov who dont pay much attention towards a death of a soilder i think we need to exaggarate every single death take place in saving the countries owner and pride.may god give me strength and show me the way to do some thing for these martyrs who has given there life for us to sleep safe in our houses i am not sorry for them but sorry for myself and our society and gov who dont even try to be 1% like those gr8 souls.
 
u r right amit, todays no one to think to join army , to serve our country , our people, last time i gave the SSB but my name was in the waiting list, but at this time i will try again, i want to join ARMY, to do something gr8.........
so not only boys , gals also think to join these forces,
u know these are the one who saves our lives ,
begwan jenam dete hai but reksha yeh kerte hai...............
so i selute those army person who serves our motherland
 
Hey doston,

I guess we are thinking in the right direction by saying that these henious crimes which are done on our brothers "the POWs" should be flashed in the eyes of the world. But dont you think that the world knows about the reality of Pakistan, that it is a wolf underneath the attire of a lamb. Still everyone including us is silent. As rightly innuendued by my friend 'Amit' here, that now a days parents are not willing to send their childrens to the Army. Moreover I guess one other thing that should be discussed here is that now a days parents are also polluting the minds of their children by telling something bad abt the army now and then, so that they can easily bent their predilection when the time comes (i.e when the child grows up to take decisions in life).
Same happened to me, as was pointed out by amit, my parents didnt allow me to go to take the SSB and I guess the problem with this approach is that it becomes a vicious circle wherein as the cliche goes "child mostly copy his parents, esp when he takes their position", we start doing the same thing with our children as well. Hence a substantial part of the good, eligible people are left, in the very begining of their life, out of the purview of the SSB people to select from. So I guess what we should do is to enlighten the society about this problem. Moreover I think we have to do it starting from our home only, i.e to inspire our child to join the army ( even for a SSC) and if we cant do that (coz I guess its pretty difficult to do, just imagine for 1 sec that while saying bye to your child after the vacations, you are not sure weather he'll come next time to spend time with you or not) then we are not entitled to tell/preach others which we cant follow (although a similar irony is exhibited in nature, when u see darkness just below the lamp).

Sandeep


JAT = Justice Action Truth
 
We Are Like That Only....

"OUR GODS AND SOLDIERS, WE ALIKE ADORE

EVEN AT THE BRINK OF DANGER, NOT BEFORE.

AFTER DELIVERANCE, BOTH ALIKE REQUITED

OUR GODS FORGOTTEN AND SOLDIERS SLIGHTED"

Regards,

JS Malik
 
I salute these Soldiers

Today is Late Maj Padmapani Acharya, MVC's birth day. He laid his life on line of duty in June 1999 at Kargil. From by own Battalion we lost 26 plus officers and men during Kargil war. We pray to God Almighty to give strength to their families and peace to these departed souls.

The question of war crimes by Pak Soldiers had been discussed on this forum earlier as well. Some members had suggested that we should do the same thing to Pak soldiers once we apprehend them. I am against it and against all kind of violence.

I understand the anger Amit has shown in his post. We also must understand that the few Pak soldiers don’t represent the entire Pak army. There is Geneva convention and that is what has been violated in the case of Capt Kalia and many other soldiers. That is the issue and needs to be presented at UN level by our leaders.

Having bad relations with our neighbors is in no one’s interest. We can’t control Pak to do what helps us. What we can control is what we can do and that is where our leaders have failed a number of times.

Parents telling their wards not to join army has little to do with these incidents. Every one knows that war is dangerous and a soldier may be required to go to war during his / her career, even if it is one in a one hundred chance. I guess that is good enough to realize the severity / probability of the danger involved. But again you have more danger travelling on the road or train when you don’t even know whether or not the driver in charge of you vehicle is competent enough or not. Similarly is the case of a doctor (having won his degree because he was from the reserve category) treating you whether or not he is competent enough. Or for that matter the medicine you are buying is good or fake.

I guess if some one has to join the army he/she should listen to his/ her inner self. You don’t do every thing every time what your parents tell you to do. At some point of time one has to take charge of his/ her destiny. So blaming parents that they told me not to join military is not the right thing to do. Do I believe that 100% of the people who did not join the army because of their parents told them to do so, will marry a girl of their parent’s choice? So let us not blame the parents for children not joining the army. There is still a long line in front of the recruiting offices for people to join the army. I am sure if army becomes more paying than the private sector, many young people will join it inspite of their parents telling them not to join it.
 
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