Tactical voting and jat heartland

[ranjitjat]

TACTICAL VOTING AND JAT HEARTLAND


PLEASE USE TACTICAL VOTING


This is not in favour of any party .
Learn and Practice tactical voting.

I am taking active part in every election in India
sence 1St general 1952 to April-May 2009.
i have taken part in every Election in UK sence1967.
I have not seen jats taking part or using tactical voting.
I have hardly find any secular person in politics in India.
All other 35 castes are using it . All big-big from Lalu Yadav,
Mulyan Yadav, and Mayavati. are making best use of it.

They called it Social Engineering.

If a Jat vote to a Jat they called it Jatism and Castism.

I have very bitter experience of this many time.
It happened in MLA Election 1962 Prof. Sher Singh and PT. Bhagwat dayal
in Jhajjar- Panjab Vidhan Sabha
Recently it happened in 2004 Loksabha election in Bhiwani.
When all non jat vote gone to Kuldip Vishnoi and both Surender Singh
and Ajay Chautala got over 7Lakhs vote but Kuldip Vishnoi win by
only polling over 4 Lakhs vote.
This is called tactical vote- social Engineering for them.
1 Parchi sy 2 Jats marte han- asa moka kab milega.

bahti Ganga mae hath dho lo.

All non jats understand and follow it from ages.
But Jat will never understand or practice it.
All political party jat-non jat
sending their son-daughter/Agents
to this site and writing with fake ID.
I request to all of you please understand tactical voting
and make a best use of it in your area.
make it New social Engineering. Jat Secularism
call it Jat Engineeribg or DhobiPat of Master Chandgi Ram Ji.
If you not able to understand and use this MulMantra
up to your wise thinking.
But for God sake do not blame me for castism./regionism
I am against all sort of descrimination.
This is here in India and will going to stay.
when Job resevation on Caste basis and
MP- MLA seat resevation on Castes.
How it can be Secular Bharat

GOD BLESS YOU AND MY INDIA

WHAT IS TACTICAL VOTING
If your party of choice doesn't stand a chance and you don't want to waste your vote, you could always cast your lot with the lesser of the remaining evils.

Tactical voting could be a way of ensuring that your least-favourite choice does not get elected where you live. Now the Internet has made it easier to barter your votes with a similarly disgruntled constituent elsewhere.

 

[rinkusheoran]

Uncle ji election mein Plan A aur Plan B thodi chale sai? Vote daalne ke time to sab aapne candidate ne jita hua maante hain aur aajkal uncle ji JAT wat wali baat kona kyunki log apne personnel kaama khatir vote daalte hain naki public ke liye better kaam karta hai. Sidhi Sidhi baat hai jiske jo aadi aawega vo uska ye vote daal se naki ki jati dekh kar.

 

[fateh]

Respected Dudee Sahab,
You are 200% correct, your suggestion is very important for the community. If we want to stay comfertably & respectably in future in our country & in the present autmospher, we have to adopt tactical voting. We donot say that individual preferences should not be there but on the last day before the voting, we must take into considration that if my condidate is not likely to win in that case we should vote in such a way that non jat must not win. The assessment is difficult but we have to learn, be true to self & think in the interest of the community. I belong to Ateli mandi, dist mohindergarh I tell you, yadavs do tactical voting very intelligently, quitely & sucessfuly, why cannot we do it. along with sh Dudee sahab I also request all jat brothers to do tactical voting

 

[prashantacmet]

sir though ur this thread is with good intention, i find your approach very negative. yes, i mean it, very negative approach as always.


All non jats understand and follow it from ages.
But Jat will never understand or practice it.

I think u are also a jat and if jats dont understand it, how do you understand it alone? i am sorry but it is beyond my undersatnding.


All political party jat-non jat
sending their son-daughter/Agents
to this site and writing with fake ID.

Please report al such ids to administrators. no one can stop fake ids as tghere is no way to confirm the identityi. if there are false ppl gere, pls resprt to admins or ignore dem.

please come to the battlefield to educate jats. sitting in one location and writing poem-like posts will not benefit the community.
which all fake ids u know please

really an eye-opener!!......

 

[ranjitjat]

sir though ur this thread is with good intention, i find your approach very negative. yes, i mean it, very negative approach as always.


All non jats understand and follow it from ages.
But Jat will never understand or practice it.

I think u are also a jat and if jats dont understand it, how do you understand it alone? i am sorry but it is beyond my undersatnding.


All political party jat-non jat
sending their son-daughter/Agents
to this site and writing with fake ID.

Please report al such ids to administrators. no one can stop fake ids as tghere is no way to confirm the identityi. if there are false ppl gere, pls resprt to admins or ignore dem.

please come to the battlefield to educate jats. sitting in one location and writing poem-like posts will not benefit the community.
which all fake ids u know please

Dear Mr Tevatia
Please do not make it personal issues.
This thread is about tactical voting.
This is personal choice.
I am from Bhiwani. I was in 2004 LokSabha Election
I was in 2005 Haryana Assembly Election.
I was in 2009 LokSabha Election- Just came from India in May.
Yadi Jats Tactical voting use karte tao-
2004 mae Kuldeep Vishnoi Bhiwani sy MP nahi banta
Yah ground reality hae.
I am in public life before your birth.
Writing Poetry and History is aim of my life.
I am member of this site from 2001.
I was moderator. I know who is who.
Admin know most old members know.
I report them time to time. They are watching
and doing good Job
How many Fake ID here.? many know it.
Why Loksabha thread was closed and members banned.
I was in India in March-April-May 2009 on the ground
and writing real history.
If you have any experence of tactical voting you are welcome to write on the subject. People tried to drug me in dirty politics in the past.
with fake ID. But where are they today.
I am dedicated member of Jat community. I have every right to express myself for positive service to the community.
Dudee ki Kalam bandh nahi hogi.
Yah CM- PM or Aam Admi ko bhi pata hae.
Kis election mae kon-kisko vote dale kiska
parchar kare Azad hae-
yadi aap poetry nahi likh sakte ho
tao kisi per kichhad mat uchhalo
yah bat sabhi per lagu hoti hae
I only appeal to have some dignity
and write for or against the subject.
No personal attack on any one

 

[sunnytewatia]

thanks for "nice poem" sir.

Dear Mr Tevatia
Please do not make it personal issues.
This thread is about tactical voting.
This is personal choice.
I am from Bhiwani. I was in 2004 LokSabha Election
I was in 2005 Haryana Assembly Election.
I was in 2009 LokSabha Election- Just came from India in May.
Yadi Jats Tactical voting use karte tao-
2004 mae Kuldeep Vishnoi Bhiwani sy MP nahi banta
Yah ground reality hae.
I am in public life before your birth.
Writing Poetry and History is aim of my life.
I am member of this site from 2001.
I was moderator. I know who is who.
Admin know most old members know.
I report them time to time. They are watching
and doing good Job
How many Fake ID here.? many know it.
Why Loksabha thread was closed and members banned.
I was in India in March-April-May 2009 on the ground
and writing real history.
If you have any experence of tactical voting you are welcome to write on the subject. People tried to drug me in dirty politics in the past.
with fake ID. But where are they today.
I am dedicated member of Jat community. I have every right to express myself for positive service to the community.
Dudee ki Kalam bandh nahi hogi.
Yah CM- PM or Aam Admi ko bhi pata hae.
Kis election mae kon-kisko vote dale kiska
parchar kare Azad hae-
yadi aap poetry nahi likh sakte ho
tao kisi per kichhad mat uchhalo
yah bat sabhi per lagu hoti hae
I only appeal to have some dignity
and write for or against the subject.
No personal attack on any one

 

[anilsangwan]

z

all lines of ur po(st)(em) answered sir. And have no personal bad feelings. I just disliked the negative approach of y and answeed. But y wrote quite more and i had to answer it line by line. Thanks

यो के हो रा स इस थ्रेड में ......... किमी उम्र का भी लिहाज कर लिया कर सुन्नी भाई.....एर डूडी सर आप भी थोडा इग्नोर करो ...


में आजकल दिन में अपनी पार्टी के प्रत्याशी के लिए व्यस्त हूँ... सो दिन में शायद बहुत सारे ऐसे ऐसे थ्रेड मिस कर रहा हूँ.........

 

[anilsangwan]

thanks for "nice poem" sir.

:rock :rock

 

[ranjitjat]

Thank you for your support

Respected Dudee Sahab,
You are 200% correct, your suggestion is very important for the community. If we want to stay comfertably & respectably in future in our country & in the present autmospher, we have to adopt tactical voting. We donot say that individual preferences should not be there but on the last day before the voting, we must take into considration that if my condidate is not likely to win in that case we should vote in such a way that non jat must not win. The assessment is difficult but we have to learn, be true to self & think in the interest of the community. I belong to Ateli mandi, dist mohindergarh I tell you, yadavs do tactical voting very intelligently, quitely & sucessfuly, why cannot we do it. along with sh Dudee sahab I also request all jat brothers to do tactical voting

Dear Col Fateh singh Khurb Sahib thank you very much for your support.
I am also belong to Dadri very close to Yadav belt
We were part of Mahinder Garh Dist. one time Dadri villages were part of
Kanina reserve Halka. We gone through same experences. Until Ch Bansi Lal made new Dist of Bhiwani.
The MP use to be never a jat until Mani Ram Bagri and Yudhvir Singh
Ghamandi Lal Bansal
Hira Singh Chinariya
Ramkishan Gupta
Rao GajRaj Singh
Rao Birender Singh
What I am saying is in 2004 Loksabha
Kuldeep Vishnoi won the seat with 33.40% votes
Surender Singh Got 30.60 % 2.8 less If 1.5% jats used
tactical vote. Vishnoi had no chance.
Ajay Chautal was in third position.
It is so simple.
This time also History will repeat itself.
in many area with 3-4 jats fighting dirty war.
a Fight to finish with hook or crook.
BSP and HJC will benefit
Jat kahnge yale Bhai madasi galti hogi.
Ham ny ky Bera tha itna close mamla tha----------

List Of Winning Candidates
Year 2004 Voters
In
1000 Voter Turnout (% age) Winner Runner-up
Candidate Name %age Party Candidate Name %age Party
2004 871.46 73.09 KULDEEP BISHNOI 33.40 INC SURENDER SINGH 30.60 HVP
1999 740.35 70.27 AJAY SINGH CHAUTALA 52.01 INLD DHARAMBIR 24.26 INC
1998 759.89 72.21 SURENDER SINGH S/O BANSI LAL 48.17 HVP AJAY SINGH 46.87 HLD(R)
1996 749.30 70.65 SURENDER SINGH 55.66 HVP JANGBIR SINGH 24.82 INC
1991 596.37 62.81 JANGBIR SINGH 36.25 HVP JAI NARAIN 30.98 INC
1989 604.35 63.98 BANSI LAL 60.13 INC DHARAMBIR 33.67 JD
1984 535.63 68.47 BANSI LAL 66.00 INC JAI NARAIN 30.44 ICJ
1980 474.10 66.86 BANSI LAL 41.81 INC(I) BALWANT RAI TAYAL 31.05 JNP
1977 435.50 73.70 CHANDRAWATI 67.62 BLD BANSI LAL 29.91 INC

 

[sidchhikara]

Mr Dudee,
Do you have any historical data to support your claim that if a Jat is elected, it has proven to be better for the Jat community as compared to an outsider. I am not trying to be contentious, just trying to get some facts.
You may be right, but factual data will bolster your claim.

 

[sunnytewatia]

exactly..... !

Mr Dudee,
Do you have any historical data to support your claim that if a Jat is elected, it has proven to be better for the Jat community as compared to an outsider. I am not trying to be contentious, just trying to get some facts.
You may be right, but factual data will bolster your claim.

 

[prashantacmet]

Dear Col Fateh singh Khurb Sahib thank you very much for your support.
I am also belong to Dadri very close to Yadav belt
We were part of Mahinder Garh Dist. one time Dadri villages were part of
Kanina reserve Halka. We gone through same experences. Until Ch Bansi Lal made new Dist of Bhiwani.
The MP use to be never a jat until Mani Ram Bagri and Yudhvir Singh
Ghamandi Lal Bansal
Hira Singh Chinariya
Ramkishan Gupta
Rao GajRaj Singh
Rao Birender Singh
What I am saying is in 2004 Loksabha
Kuldeep Vishnoi won the seat with 33.40% votes
Surender Singh Got 30.60 % 2.8 less If 1.5% jats used
tactical vote. Vishnoi had no chance.
Ajay Chautal was in third position.
It is so simple.
This time also History will repeat itself.
in many area with 3-4 jats fighting dirty war.
a Fight to finish with hook or crook.
BSP and HJC will benefit
Jat kahnge yale Bhai madasi galti hogi.
Ham ny ky Bera tha itna close mamla tha----------

List Of Winning Candidates
Year 2004 Voters
In
1000 Voter Turnout (% age) Winner Runner-up
Candidate Name %age Party Candidate Name %age Party
2004 871.46 73.09 KULDEEP BISHNOI 33.40 INC SURENDER SINGH 30.60 HVP
1999 740.35 70.27 AJAY SINGH CHAUTALA 52.01 INLD DHARAMBIR 24.26 INC
1998 759.89 72.21 SURENDER SINGH S/O BANSI LAL 48.17 HVP AJAY SINGH 46.87 HLD(R)
1996 749.30 70.65 SURENDER SINGH 55.66 HVP JANGBIR SINGH 24.82 INC
1991 596.37 62.81 JANGBIR SINGH 36.25 HVP JAI NARAIN 30.98 INC
1989 604.35 63.98 BANSI LAL 60.13 INC DHARAMBIR 33.67 JD
1984 535.63 68.47 BANSI LAL 66.00 INC JAI NARAIN 30.44 ICJ
1980 474.10 66.86 BANSI LAL 41.81 INC(I) BALWANT RAI TAYAL 31.05 JNP
1977 435.50 73.70 CHANDRAWATI 67.62 BLD BANSI LAL 29.91 INC

Again "nice write-up" sir!!. I agree with you word by word. Anyway, How is the weather in London?

 

[sunnytewatia]

u missed my reply too wich is deletd by adminsirtators of jatland now. i replied each line of dudee ji. but now i m his fan. fan of his writing style. u also enjoy the poem.

z

यो के हो रा स इस थ्रेड में ......... किमी उम्र का भी लिहाज कर लिया कर सुन्नी भाई.....एर डूडी सर आप भी थोडा इग्नोर करो ...


में आजकल दिन में अपनी पार्टी के प्रत्याशी के लिए व्यस्त हूँ... सो दिन में शायद बहुत सारे ऐसे ऐसे थ्रेड मिस कर रहा हूँ.........

 

[hpmalikdaboda]

Dharampal Singh Dudee ji has given a very good idea but to implement the idea all Jats will have to think and vote unitedly. I think that we should start a campaign that our community should have a mechanism that we will choose the best Jat candidate from every constituency and force other Jat candidates to withdraw from election and wholeheartedly support that candidate. That candidate should be responsible to the community first and his party later. Though it will be a difficult proposition to have such a mechanism yet the beginning can be done. Till then we can tactically decide to vote jointly for one candidate to ensure that the candidate who will be most beneficial to the caste should win. :rock

 

[ranjitjat]

Thanks for positive contribution

Dharampal Singh Dudee ji has given a very good idea but to implement the idea all Jats will have to think and vote unitedly. I think that we should start a campaign that our community should have a mechanism that we will choose the best Jat candidate from every constituency and force other Jat candidates to withdraw from election and wholeheartedly support that candidate. That candidate should be responsible to the community first and his party later. Though it will be a difficult proposition to have such a mechanism yet the beginning can be done. Till then we can tactically decide to vote jointly for one candidate to ensure that the candidate who will be most beneficial to the caste should win. :rock

Dear HP Malik Sahib
Thank you for your understanding and idea.
Samjhdar ko Isra hi kafi hota hae.
Yah Election mae Apply karke dekho
result 22 koi pata chal jayega
We need people like you
Carry on good work

 

[ranjitjat]

Thanks for positive contribution

Again "nice write-up" sir!!. I agree with you word by word. Anyway, How is the weather in London?

Dear Prashant thanks.

Samjhdar ko Isara bahut hae

Ak ny kahi Dusare ny Mani
Kah Nanak Dono hi Gyani

Dusman ki Nani- Kani
yah tao Intna hi Geet hae. Bhai

Yes weather is fine in London
Sunny and dry- good for Cricket
Doing some paintwork out side house
A IT boy from my village coming
to Visit us 1ST time on Sunday
Cheers

 

[malikdeepak1]

Dear HP Malik Sahib
Thank you for your understanding and idea.
Samjhdar ko Isra hi kafi hota hae.
Yah Election mae Apply karke dekho
result 22 koi pata chal jayega
We need people like you
Carry on good work

Uncleji Bure me se bura chun-ne wali baat hai. Tactical voting bhi kaha tak karenge. Jo neta hmare pradesh me chunaav ladte hai unka ek second ka bhi bhrosa nahi hai. aaj kahnege hum Jaat ko upar uthayenge unka kaam karenge, bna doge unko to 2 din baad hmara hi kaam karne se mukar jayenge. I've seen this thing and this perception is based on my personal experience. So tactical voting might also become unfavourable.

My viewpoint! You have every reason to disagree

 

[ranjitjat]

Thanks- for positive suggestion

Mr Dudee,
Do you have any historical data to support your claim that if a Jat is elected, it has proven to be better for the Jat community as compared to an outsider. I am not trying to be contentious, just trying to get some facts.
You may be right, but factual data will bolster your claim.

Dear Sidhh
You are better located
Can you help us to find some data

 

[ranjitjat]

Thanks Deepak

Uncleji Bure me se bura chun-ne wali baat hai. Tactical voting bhi kaha tak karenge. Jo neta hmare pradesh me chunaav ladte hai unka ek second ka bhi bhrosa nahi hai. aaj kahnege hum Jaat ko upar uthayenge unka kaam karenge, bna doge unko to 2 din baad hmara hi kaam karne se mukar jayenge. I've seen this thing and this perception is based on my personal experience. So tactical voting might also become unfavourable.

My viewpoint! You have every reason to disagree

Dear Deepak Thanks.
Bura mae sae Kam bura hi real problem hae

I agree with you. Choice is Lesser Evil

 

[ranjitjat]

Thanks for positive contribution

Uncle ji election mein Plan A aur Plan B thodi chale sai? Vote daalne ke time to sab aapne candidate ne jita hua maante hain aur aajkal uncle ji JAT wat wali baat kona kyunki log apne personnel kaama khatir vote daalte hain naki public ke liye better kaam karta hai. Sidhi Sidhi baat hai jiske jo aadi aawega vo uska ye vote daal se naki ki jati dekh kar.

Bhai Rinkuu
You do not have this problem
Light Election homour
Do not mind
AK Admi ny Misal De jo kuch had tak sahi hae
Kathal ka MLA aur
Bhadra-Luharu ka Jat= Equal
52-25 ki 1St choice tao Sheoran hi hae.
2ND choice Jat hae.
Dharamveer
Ran Singh Maan
Ranbir Madala ky Sivaye
Sheoran hi Banaye hae.
Tom Tao Raja ho
CH. Mahtab Singh ko
Hamne hi Jind ka Raja Banaya tha
Riyasat Jind todi 1947 mae
Jab hamare hi Gaon - Ghar mae
Dera Dal Rakha tha 40 Days