There was no congress 'wave' in election 2009:-read the fine print.

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There was no congress 'wave' in election 2009:-read the fine print.

This notion is colored by the electoral performance of the party in the cities of Delhi & Mumbai. While the congress did creditably well in Delhi, its victory in Mumbai has less to do with the imaginary enhanced appeal of the party and more to do with mith the emergence of Raj Thackeray’s MNS as the spoiler for the BJP-shiv sena combine.

If the congress’s revival is not the reason for its stupendous success in the polls, what factors have contributed to its victory? The party benefited primarily from Media analyst of the 15th lok sabha election results has largely been aimed at forcing certain perceptions that have no empirical evidence. There have been analyses on how the surge in the congress’s tally heralds a nationwide revival of the party. The congress’s national vote share has gone up only marginally from 26.5% in 2004 to 28.6% in 2009. Curiously, the vote share of 28.6% secured by the congress in 2009 is almost the same as what it got in 1999 (28.3%) when it got its lowest ever tally of 114 seats in the general elections.

How could one say that the congress has revived nationally when its national vote share has only increased marginally? Further , even as the party has gained in terms of votes in seven states- Punjab, Kerla, MP, UP, Rajasthan, Bihar and Uttarakhand- it has lost votes by more than 3% points in number of them ( such as Orissa, Jharkhand, Maharastra, AP, J&K and HP). UP is the only state where the congress has shown real signs of revival with party’s vote share going up by an impressive 6%.

The other myth doing the rounds is that the congress has an enhanced appeal among metropolitan voters due to its forward – looking policies, as well as the appeal of PM Manmohan Singh among the educated middle classes, and the ’youth appeal’ of Rahul Gandhi among the young voters this has no electoral proof. The congress’s vote share in metropolitan constituencies has virtually remained the same, 30.7% inn 2004 and 30.4 % in 2009. Therefore , the premise that new generation of urban voters with increased prosperity and greater opportunities finds the congress more attractive and in sync with their aspirations has no bias.

the decline and division in the vote share of its opponents. The fall in the vote of the BJP in number of states; huge negative swings against regional arties like TDP (8%), the AIADMK(7%) and the SP(4%); the emergence of new parties like Prajarajyam in AP; rise of MNS in Maharashtra and break-up of BJP-BJD alliance in Orissa have all the contributed to the congress’s gains even as it suffered vote losses. In UP, it secured 21 of the 80 seats, even though it polled only 18% of the popular vote. What helped the congress in UP was the favourable distribution of votes-concentrates in a few pockets-that helped the party to translate its fewer votes into seats.

It is given that the congress has won this election comprehensively. The scale of the congress’s success has astounded everyone, including party big-wigs. The’wave’ in favour of the congress, however , was invisible-because there wasn’t any.

It is the failure of the BJP and the other parties to hold their own that caused the BJP’s defeat; not because of a serious challenge from the congress. This should be a message for all parties like BJP and Others.
 
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one thing thts always confuses is >> calculating overall vote % for the whole country...is it a true indicator?? we dont have a proportional representation system so why do we use the countrywide voting share for analysis??

moreover, comparing the vote % of 1999 with that of 2009 is not justified..vote percentages might be similar but the absolute numbers r vastly different..even if we compare the voters for elections of 2004 nd 2009 there is difference of 9 crore voters nd it is this number tht matters in the election...our population increases at a fast pace nd the growth is not evenly distributed...deeper analysis of extent of the growth nd distribution of population will lead to the reasons of victory and defeat.

having said all this--the fine print is tht the Indian electorate is unpredictable...however, the bottomline is that congress won and performed better than anyone had expected it to do. :)
 
If all you are doing is just a copy paste from some newspaper, without expressing any of your own views, we will promptly delete/close such threads!
Every thread is fine as long as people don't get personal. In political threads however, the tendency is to get personal really fast.
So, here's the deal. As long as you don't get personal in this thread, we will keep it open. If members do start abusing each other or posting unrelated matter etc, we can take any action including bans and/or closing of threads.
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lagge se Chautala ke khillaf bolna pasand nahin he kisi ne....baaki sab chalta he
 
I think we have discussed "Chautala party' and'Hooda party"enough .And such threads only let us continue repeating the same points.When its already been discussed who thinks what of a political party then why to repeat it again?your last threads indicates which party is better and the views of the memebers.So i also dont see any point in discussing the same issue again and again.



lagge se Chautala ke khillaf bolna pasand nahin he kisi ne....baaki sab chalta he
 
The point i wanted to convey via this is that as many people think that congress party has revived through out India its there misconception because there overall voting % has increased only by 0.3% from the 1999 election when congress party got minimum seats ever(1999).

The point of this thread is not to hear bad/good thing about Mr. Hooda Sahab or for that matter of Ch O. P. Chautla.
 
If all you are doing is just a copy paste from some newspaper, without expressing any of your own views, we will promptly delete/close such threads!

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I think this is not the first thread that has been copied and pasted over here n i dont think there is any wrong thing in it.

I think in these scenarios instead of deleting the whole thread that particular post in which people have got personnel should be deleted instead of whole thread and action should be taken against that person.


N request to members writing on this form to abide by the reule n regulations of JL.Controlled aggression is good but getting personnel is something uncalled for.
 
The point i wanted to convey via this is that as many people think that congress party has revived through out India its there misconception because there overall voting % has increased only by 0.3% from the 1999 election when congress party got minimum seats ever(1999).

The point of this thread is not to hear bad/good thing about Mr. Hooda Sahab or for that matter of Ch O. P. Chautla.



bhai sahab vaise politics and all are not my cup of tea..........bt ye baat to hai ke is baar chautala sahab ke kai purane workers hooda sahab ki party mai aa gaye the........
liye-kailasho devi--ex MP kurukshetra.....
vo pichle 20 saal se inld mai thi.....bt is bar ticket na milne prr congress mai aa gayi
 
lagge se Chautala ke khillaf bolna pasand nahin he kisi ne....baaki sab chalta he

Chhillar sahab aapse main bhi mila bhi hoon aur aap kabhi ache vaktitatav k insaan n we need people like u in our cast for upliftment of this cast.
Vaise aapki company ne pichle char salon mein kabhi achi uplabdhi hasil ki hai.

Ye baat pata nahi aapne kyun kahi ki koi chautla sabah ki burai sunna pasand nahi karta jabki yahan unke uper kuch likha bhi nahi gay tha?

"Jiske khaye bakli uske gaye ragni" ye to hamesha hota aaya bhaisahab, this have been seen everywhere.
 
Chhillar sahab aapse main bhi mila bhi hoon aur aap kabhi ache vaktitatav k insaan n we need people like u in our cast for upliftment of this cast.
Vaise aapki company ne pichle char salon mein kabhi achi uplabdhi hasil ki hai.

Ye baat pata nahi aapne kyun kahi ki koi chautla sabah ki burai sunna pasand nahi karta jabki yahan unke uper kuch likha bhi nahi gay tha?

"Jiske khaye bakli uske gaye ragni" ye to hamesha hota aaya bhaisahab, this have been seen everywhere.

Brother that qoute was for not targated at you, my reply was directed to a post....if I am not wrong we met in Delhi while I was with Yashwin
 
Bhai Sheoran

Baaki to pata nahin but surely people are happy with the work Hooda sahaab is doing and people are voting for him even if they are anti congress. And I believe INLD have to do lot of hard work to bring back his vote bank specially Jats. Baaki punjabi don't have any options even if they are anti Jat CM as they don't see any good prospects of Bhajjan lal and surely they won't vote for INLD and left over option is Congress again.
 
Bhai main to soch raha thaa ki site has gone pro congress and anti chautala seeing couple of incidents over here.

I'd say the same about more and more members of JL but un moderators ka ke kar le jin ke rishtedaar INLD ki ticket ki baat la re sien........
 
:D Manne laagai aapnai infraction lenn ka jee kar rya sai.Kisse moderator kai chaum utth gya tai pher tai aapnai bera e hai:DJokes apart i think this decision has been made by moderators keeping in mind that 'Chautala vs Hooda' kind of threada always result into clashes between members and they are tend to hold personal grudges.But moderators have never given infraction to either Chautala admirers or Hooda admirers.If this has been decided now then i am sure they will take action against anyone who is found guilty irrespective of the leader he/she admires.Personal life me koi kisse ka bhi supporter ho ya kisse ka relative kisse bhi party ka ho but moderators always remain neutral and honest towards their duty and reasponsibility.Issliye aap chinta mat karo :)


I'd say the same about more and more members of JL but un moderators ka ke kar le jin ke rishtedaar INLD ki ticket ki baat la re sien........
 
bhai sahab vaise politics and all are not my cup of tea..........bt ye baat to hai ke is baar chautala sahab ke kai purane workers hooda sahab ki party mai aa gaye the........
liye-kailasho devi--ex MP kurukshetra.....
vo pichle 20 saal se inld mai thi.....bt is bar ticket na milne prr congress mai aa gayi


:rockbhai u sab thik hoya ,jata ne chod ke chautala bhi nu kara karta dalito ke liye ye karoonga ,wo karoonga etc ..........u badhiya natija nikala hai...........:rock


..agar koi chautala ne bataniya ho akk bhai langre ..........is kamin ka ar machinegiri ka koi bharosa nahi hota , ki ye kis time dob de ...u bhi mama jata ne bhul gya tha

......ibe to aur bhi marega manne dekha hai ki iska chora ajay panjabiya ne hi liye hande hai ..... ye khud apne jaye ke nahi hote .ye sab to bade bujargo ki kahawte hai pher bhi galti kare hai...

apni batawe hamne kade bhi congress me vote koni geri par chautala ka u roop dekh kar gerani padi aur doosari bat congress me bhi jat cm awe tha jyahi te ,baki rahi lok sabha ki wa to hamne ibbi nahi geri kyunki congress kabhi se khad jyat ki parti rahi hai , non jat rahi hai ......
.........aur kamin se ,kutte se ,chandal aurat se das kadam door rahana chahiye..........bade syana ne kahi hai ?
 
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I'd say the same about more and more members of JL but un moderators ka ke kar le jin ke rishtedaar INLD ki ticket ki baat la re sien........


Amit ji ek choti si gujarish hai. What anyone is doing in persoal lives this is his matter but our rivalry for parties and election is not good. This is my humble request to avoid such type of topics. Enough heat is generated already.
 
Brother that qoute was for not targated at you, my reply was directed to a post....if I am not wrong we met in Delhi while I was with Yashwin

Sorry to say Bhaisahab we met in Gurgaon at Park Plaza hotel n i won a t -shirt of your company in the questionnaire that was being done.
 
Bhai Sheoran

Baaki to pata nahin but surely people are happy with the work Hooda sahaab is doing and people are voting for him even if they are anti congress. And I believe INLD have to do lot of hard work to bring back his vote bank specially Jats. Baaki punjabi don't have any options even if they are anti Jat CM as they don't see any good prospects of Bhajjan lal and surely they won't vote for INLD and left over option is Congress again.

As long as good work is done it hardly matter who is in power. AS of INLD , ya they will need to work not only harder but lot harder if they want to come back in power.

Bhai sabko pata nahi hai lekin Bhajjan lal bhi Jat hai aur usko gotra manjhu h, vo khudh kai baar keh chuka h ki main Jat hoon lekin ebb log mante hi konya aur Non Jat usne Non jat samjhke vote daal de sain.

Let anyone vote where they want because ours is a democratic country as long as good work continue.
 
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