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Hey dude cummon, just go through ur post the three things that u have mentioned were formal writing..and as i said..that general talk can be a formal text but informal text that is in timepass and humor section can't be done under etiquettes cummon how can u do u humor being in etiquette..
For example: ek aadmi rail mein chad gaya..usko seat par koi aur baithya tha:
in decent way he says: bhaisaab jagah aapke pitaji ki nahin hai..(no fun)
in JAT style: re dhaid seat tere babu ki na hai..laage se kimme le de ke maanega..
humor is always informal..
Formal talk should be without decorative stuff..like u go office in formal wears..and informal talk should be dipped in essence of colors and decorative stuff like u enjoy on weekend...
in hindi launguage we have alankars..
alankrit bhasha ka prayog karna..shabdoon ka khel hai..and using different colors to highlight and put stress like i did right now in informal language is the way u put stress in ur verdict..i had gone through seminars and debates and in those seminars and in public speakin u need to have up and down's in ur language..it is must..and in normal writing one can't make where is up and where its down...so i guess for putting stress and showing the highlight of ur text colors can be used and sizes can be used in informal texts, like in humor and timepass.
itsnavin said:
Sunita ji,
It's good that u like bright colors and try to make ur writings impressive using these colors but there should be a decorum. If someone writes a size 5 text..others will using even bigger. Everyone is educated here...and must have done his/her graduation in college. Do you remember from your school/college times using colored pens other than blue(black for Hindi) in your work. Even at degree level we weren't supposed to use colors other than blue. Did u use Green/Red colors in ur Matric/+2/Degree exams...what ever u say answer is no. I remember in the final year project report, I has many points to highlight in the project report but we couldn't use colors/fonts other than the normal ones. And if our that work, be it homework/exam/proje ct report was well read by examiners...why can't we have the same here.

You post was in bold letters but it didn't create any special effect but it put u in a different class where u opted to choose a different font than other jatland members. Reason is not clear at all!

Try this thing one day: Write a paragraph in normal english etiquettes...try reading it and take down the time it took. Now write the same in all bold letter and in some fluorescent color. Try reading it again...and see the time it too. And see the difference urself...and it was my point.

Navin
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rockingguy said:
For example: ek aadmi rail mein chad gaya..usko seat par koi aur baithya tha:
in decent way he says: bhaisaab jagah aapke pitaji ki nahin hai..(no fun)
in JAT style: re dhaid seat tere babu ki na hai..laage se kimme le de ke maanega..
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Ur example is perfect.

Language is not matter here...U were able to convey ur message whatever may be the language...hindi...english...haryanwi.. Now u tell me what's the need to make it bold or red colored or italisize it?? I am just stressing on usage of default text style in jatland forums unless we desperately need to put emphasis on some part.

Formal or informal ki to baat maine kahi hee nahin. Jisne jo likhna hai likhey...kisi bhee language mein likhey.

Navin
 
bhaisaab...
bold is to highlight something in text..it means wat is the crux of the text or wat is this text about...italisize is to quote something..in ur text...bright color(like red ) is to show dyanmic nature of the language....and light colors are passive in nature...all things are having its own significance if used in right context...
and y i m talkin bout formal and informal text is because..
formal way is like u are going for some formal get together and formal wears..like wearing suit and being in contraits and maintaing the decorem of the enviornment..
and informal is rocking..showing dyamic nature of words and passive nature of words...showing in what way the thing is said...there are different smiley faces to show the expression..as it is said that few pictures are better then long words....
and i do agree wid u in font size...even i do such a mistakes of using bigger font as i m in habit of..and i will try my best not to do this....but i can't say bout colors or bold italics in informal forum...that put livelyness in ur words..in writing something they can be said alankars
here i used bold font style to highlight wat is this paragraph about..was it the crux of the matter is..
itsnavin said:
Ur example is perfect.

Language is not matter here...U were able to convey ur message whatever may be the language...hindi...english...haryanwi.. Now u tell me what's the need to make it bold or red colored or italisize it?? I am just stressing on usage of default text style in jatland forums unless we desperately need to put emphasis on some part.

Formal or informal ki to baat maine kahi hee nahin. Jisne jo likhna hai likhey...kisi bhee language mein likhey.

Navin
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rockingguy said:
bhaisaab...
bold is to highlight something in text..it means wat is the crux of the text or wat is this text about...italisize is to quote something..in ur text...bright color(like red ) is to show dyanmic nature of the language....and light colors are passive in nature...all things are having its own significance if used in right context...
and y i m talkin bout formal and informal text is because..
formal way is like u are going for some formal get together and formal wears..like wearing suit and being in contraits and maintaing the decorem of the enviornment..
and informal is rocking..showing dyamic nature of words and passive nature of words...showing in what way the thing is said...there are different smiley faces to show the expression..as it is said that few pictures are better then long words....
and i do agree wid u in font size...even i do such a mistakes of using bigger font as i m in habit of..and i will try my best not to do this....but i can't say bout colors or bold italics in informal forum...that put livelyness in ur words..in writing something they can be said alankars
here i used bold font style to highlight wat is this paragraph about..was it the crux of the matter is..
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Vishal bhai...I know what is bold & italics. I know when these should be used. But excessive usage or using it as ur default style is not a good practice. See Sunita's posts in this thread...just this I want to say!!

I not at all disagree with intermittent usage of these features.

Navin
 
itsnavin said:
Vishal bhai...I know what is bold & italics. I know when these should be used. But excessive usage or using it as ur default style is not a good practice. See Sunita's posts in this thread...just this I want to say!!

I not at all disagree with intermittent usage of these features.

Navin
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sorry not to be serious until now bhau naveen but my point here is that if there is so desperation among a few mambers to use bright colors and larger then required font then dont read the posts and move on......

cuming to the alternative....you are damm rite about this issue but again......what is the point satrting up a thread....moderaters and a few members wil agree with u and then in a few days there will be some niw entrant here and he/she wud again start up the same chaos....this is how the life goes on.......i know that you are really a old an dresponsible member of this site and you ahave alywaz contribted positively but who bloody care tomorrow......not all people here are for the purpose you are here........a few of them are just to relax and entertain them self and others.........so just relax .......if you are even able to pursuade one moderater then we are with and wud luv to yell on this issue.....
thats all what I cud say I hope its clear...:)

cheers brother
 
keho rya sai...........

ree ke ho ryaa saii thaare............... bhai nabeev bhai saab ki baat theek saii...........kai bee ekk aadha baandar ghane bade font likh de saii.....kaal e dekha tha manne bhi.......;)

naa te ek aadhi baar te normal baat sai issi koi bat nahi honi chahiye........karo jo jee kare.......mojj lyoo bhaaiyoo:):cool:
 
keshavdahiya said:
sorry not to be serious until now bhau naveen but my point here is that if there is so desperation among a few mambers to use bright colors and larger then required font then dont read the posts and move on......

cuming to the alternative....you are damm rite about this issue but again......what is the point satrting up a thread....moderaters and a few members wil agree with u and then in a few days there will be some niw entrant here and he/she wud again start up the same chaos....this is how the life goes on.......i know that you are really a old an dresponsible member of this site and you ahave alywaz contribted positively but who bloody care tomorrow......not all people here are for the purpose you are here........a few of them are just to relax and entertain them self and others.........so just relax .......if you are even able to pursuade one moderater then we are with and wud luv to yell on this issue.....
thats all what I cud say I hope its clear...:)

cheers brother
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Keshu brother,
I am not here for a referendum but just for some paths of improvement. If Admins think that the point raised it good, it's their job to implement it as they have the power. You are right that some members are really desperate to use different styles.

Anyway...life goes on..my job was to suggest!

Cheers!
 
i agree with u navin excess of these kinda things are not good..it should be used in wisely manner..even i have don't dat unknowingly...i was not considerate bout this issue..will see now onwards..and i totally agree wid keshu and rathee...
 
I think its high time that some of people should be banned here... Those who have memory of Jatland 4-5 months back would know how much quality has deteriorated... I am not even sure if some of new members are Jats and they are always intent on spoiling any serious discussion...

Jatland ko apne ghar ki dukan samajh rakhi hai... subah subah uith kae aa jate hain aur din bhar kilki marte rahte hein jasse din bhar koi kaam nahi hota... not surprising that so many sincere member has left already... aur upar se Dev Dahiya jasse log logo ko khush rakhne ke liye sabki parsansa bhi karte rahte hein... koi strong stand le ke se objection nahi karta, aur jo karta hai (e.g. Navin) to wahan bhi KILKI shuru ho jati hai... Anyone from outside who visits the site (regarding Jat history or so) get impression of Jat which makes their stereotypical image even stronger...

I am not sure if moderators would do anything about it... But who cares, atleast not me, not any more...

-vinod
 
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vinodks said:
I think its high time that some of people should be banned here... Those who have memory of Jatland 4-5 months back would know how much quality has deteriorated... I am not even sure if some of new members are Jats and they are always intent on spoiling any serious discussion...

Jatland ko apne ghar ki dukan samajh rakhi hai... subah subah uith kae aa jate hain aur din bhar kilki marte rahte hein jasse din bhar koi kaam nahi hota... not surprising that so many sincere member has left already... aur upar se Dev Dahiya jasse log logo ko khush rakhne ke liye sabki parsansa bhi karte rahte hein... koi strong stand le ke se objection nahi karta, aur jo karta hai (e.g. Navin) to wahan bhi KILKI shuru ho jati hai... Anyone from outside who visits the site (regarding Jat history or so) get impression of Jat which makes their stereotypical image even stronger...

I am not sure if moderators would do anything about it... But who cares, atleast not me, not any more...

-vinod
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Vinod...u r right on spot! This was one of the message I wanted to convey from my post. And only a few members dared to care about it. And like you I didn't care much till yesterday but enough was enough. Now let's see some action!

Navin
 
vinodks said:
I think its high time that some of people should be banned here... Those who have memory of Jatland 4-5 months back would know how much quality has deteriorated... I am not even sure if some of new members are Jats and they are always intent on spoiling any serious discussion...

Jatland ko apne ghar ki dukan samajh rakhi hai... subah subah uith kae aa jate hain aur din bhar kilki marte rahte hein jasse din bhar koi kaam nahi hota... not surprising that so many sincere member has left already... aur upar se Dev Dahiya jasse log logo ko khush rakhne ke liye sabki parsansa bhi karte rahte hein... koi strong stand le ke se objection nahi karta, aur jo karta hai (e.g. Jit) to wahan bhi KILKI shuru ho jati hai... Anyone from outside who visits the site (regarding Jat history or so) get impression of Jat which makes their stereotypical image even stronger...

I am not sure if moderators would do anything about it... But who cares, atleast not me, not any more...

-vinod
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My dear Vinod, your post is nothing but an attempt to malign the complete block of people amass.....First of all let me clarify...[DEV DAHIYA jaisse log logon ko.....thats your language] kissi ki baddai uss ko khareedne ke liye nahin kari jatti, rather it is by nature that i don't criticize people on the drop of a hat.Mujhe kissi se vote nahin lene yahan par .......get it straight please.I take very strong exception to your tirade and the manner in which you have gone about.........? What is your great contribution to this site towards a healthy outward projection for the digestion of so called visitors [and after all who is interested in your history...ie..outsiders].....which makes you stand out?I find those KILLKI people much more happier and healthier than you. ....you keep writing history or geography here on jatland...who cares? But Direct attack on people by name is a stupidity of highest order.You have accused people of a thing which they loath.I never thought that you carry such deep hatred for people....kindly read things before you post.Also... Please spare me your indifference!Regards!
 
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naveen,is baat ka koi solution na nikalne wala.moderators r never going to warn a person just 4 using bold and colorful letters.
its not a school .if some people get happy by using these techniques let them be.I do not see any thing objectionable in that.
as long as content is descent.

 
My post is nothing but an attempt to speak out which many people agree but don't think it worth to argue about... It may be your good nature not to criticize people but you also don't want to hear if someone criticizes you atleast not without getting sentimental and personal and without using words like "hate"... Your response to my post is solely because I named you... ok I could name more... People who could learn from this thread are Vikas, Keshav blah blah blah... so what? everyone knows... If I had written what I wrote without the one sentence directed to you you might have actually supported me...

As for my contribution, I may not have contributed anything here but that doesn't mean that I do not have right to raise an issue that could make Jatland better... As per your remark about happiness and health, it's stupid to make judgement who is happy and healthy and who is not... By what standard you make such opinion and by what right you use as an argument whether or not someone is good member... and if making kilki is measure of being happy and healthy then keep it up and loud... Calling everyone at appointed time to login just to see how many actually show up might appease someone but to me its useless...

Ofcourse, my post doesn't mean to be attack on anyone, including you but its support for original issue raised by Navin... Its ok to have humor in humor section but shouldn't be always and everywhere... Why not these kilki-maar people show their bravery at other forums and see how long they can stay there?...

-vinod

devdahiya said:
My dear Vinod, your post is nothing but an attempt to malign the complete block of people amass.....First of all let me clarify...[DEV DAHIYA jaisse log logon ko.....thats your language] kissi ki baddai uss ko khareedne ke liye nahin kari jatti, rather it is by nature that i don't criticize people on the drop of a hat.Mujhe kissi se vote nahin lene yahan par .......get it straight please.I take very strong exception to your tirade and the manner in which you have gone about.........? What is your great contribution to this site towards a healthy outward projection for the digestion of so called visitors [and after all who is interested in your history...ie..outsiders].....which makes you stand out?I find those KILLKI people much more happier and healthier than you. ....you keep writing history or geography here on jatland...who cares? But Direct attack on people by name is a stupidity of highest order.You have accused people of a thing which they loath.I never thought that you carry such deep hatred for people....kindly read things before you post.Also... Please spare me your indifference!Regards!
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Yaar Vinod, leave it - please do not be serious. There are a few young boys here who have a good sense of humor, let us tolerate them though you are right that this sense sometimes becomes 'non-sense' for some of us in other forums.

I have already written that a little bit of bold font should be OK for technical reasons. For example, the text in Hindi can be viewed only in 3 or 4 size font - in the default size (2), it would be hardly viewable.

Young generation is innovating new techniques and technologies - such as slim mobile phone. Some of these phone have such a small dial-pad that elderly people find it difficult to dial a number. According to opthalmologists, any human being above 40 needs specs for reading tiny letters, even if his eye-sight is 6/6. Sometimes I use font size '3' in 'Arial' style which seems more presentable. But as I have written in my earlier post, this system should not be misused as some new members are doing it right now and this is solely the purpose of this thread.

vinodks said:
My post is nothing but an attempt to speak out which many people agree but don't think it worth to argue about... It may be your good nature not to criticize people but you also don't want to hear if someone criticizes you atleast not without getting sentimental and personal and without using words like "hate"... Your response to my post is solely because I named you... ok I could name more... People who could learn from this thread are Vikas, Keshav blah blah blah... so what? everyone knows... If I had written what I wrote without the one sentence directed to you you might have actually supported me...

As for my contribution, I may not have contributed anything here but that doesn't mean that I do not have right to raise an issue that could make Jatland better... As per your remark about happiness and health, it's stupid to make judgement who is happy and healthy and who is not... By what standard you make such opinion and by what right you use as an argument whether or not someone is good member... and if making kilki is measure of being happy and healthy then keep it up and loud... Calling everyone at appointed time to login just to see how many actually show up might appease someone but to me its useless...

Ofcourse, my post doesn't mean to be attack on anyone, including you but its support for original issue raised by Navin... Its ok to have humor in humor section but shouldn't be always and everywhere... Why not these kilki-maar people show their bravery at other forums and see how long they can stay there?...

-vinod
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Why did you point out only MY NAME???? did you see Ritu's posts? or Deepshikha's???? aur haan shuru-shuru mein mai simple fonts use karti thi....par log fir bhi meri posts ko dhoodh kar laddney baith jatey the....ye special font uske liye choose kiya hai....who search out for SUNITA HOODA'S postS ONLY:)
itsnavin said:
Vishal bhai...I know what is bold & italics. I know when these should be used. But excessive usage or using it as ur default style is not a good practice. See Sunita's posts in this thread...just this I want to say!!I not at all disagree with intermittent usage of these features.

Navin
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vinodks said:
Jatland ko apne ghar ki dukan samajh rakhi hai... subah subah uith kae aa jate hain aur din bhar kilki marte rahte hein jasse din bhar koi kaam nahi hota...


Mr Vinod,
Will you PLEASE tell us what are rules / guidlines about Jatland.BTW who has authorised you to comment upon like this on members. Koi Taddekeyen taddekeyen aaewe Chahhey aadhi Raat teri sehat pe kai asar sey Bhai.....
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Cleansing act

Of Course there are people who just dont realise the importance of words. Some write awfull English and others some hybrid alien language.They want to comment about anything without any thought about quality on this forum. This bandwagon should receive some flogging to stave off further deterioration. This "Kilki" should be shown mirror at the right time in right way.
I did not like vilifying remarks against Dev Uncle, who is one of the few nice people around. It would be good if he gets serious in handling this cultural nonsense, which runs deep in our blood.
This bunch of people has diluted the numbers who write sensibly. They should read something before writing any quality post. Most show no desire to learn but an avid apetite to insult other or opine about every single issue posing as divine figures.
People from UP, haryana and rajasthan etc.. This is the side effect of erecting false hopes by concocting history in spare time and flaunting pride.
WHY IS JAT MAHAN? TELL ME WHY? FEEL PROUD FOR SOMEHING YOU ACHIVE BY EFFORT NOT JUST AS A BIRTH RIGHT. BULL SHITTING ALL THE TIME WITH BLIND EYES. I CAN SAY JEWS HAVE BEEN GREAT, RUSSIANS HAVE BEEN GREAT THINKERS, LOGICIANS, BUT WHY IS JAT MAHAN? GROW UP AND STOP WRITING SUCH NONSENSE. UP, HARYANA, Etc. .. THE GIRL SLEEPING WITH JAGJIVAN RAM"S SON WAS A JATNI, but why do I have to be so obsessed with something which has no rationality involved with it?


Dev Dahiya Ji has been insultingly referred , which I find unfortunate, though I could not figure out why such callous remarks were jotted down for him. I will have to read some other posts to develop an idea about what actually transpired..

Here are many Chamars on this forum, as my father says, our whole village despite being a jat village has the psyche of Chamars, neither bold nor constructive as a team. Our is the only family which does not visit temple on a regular basis, and the whole villge thinks we are anti-jat Culture. My Father has been a poineering person to think openly and independeptly for which we are so lucky. He hates the way "Jat" think. And the sizeable people he spends time are different from this "gang". He calls them as jats. He is free to discuss his novel "How to win India Again" which has a simple plot. The whites send their women to Golden temple and have sex with jats. Soon there is a whole race which is better then present stock, and would overwhelm the Indian army to emerge as victors. We always laugh at his simple thinking.

I tell you two stories.
a)There are nurses who used to live in a rented jat house in our village. They were from kerala and mostly Christians. Jat Boys were charged up to see fair faces in tight jeans and were sexually inclined to gather around the lamp post next to that house every evening. After job my Father used to come in the evening, with bunch of boys trying to woo girls,dressed in good clothes. My father regularily scuffled with these boys to not stand there. We had many arguments whether it is our right to do moral policing. My father sweared at them, and said he would never give up. One of the Village boys, young blood was learning "judo" and misbehaved with my father in the Bus. Next day my father had to make his mouth bleed, unless the whole family was at our door.

b)There were three Jat boys shot by Punjabis in DDA APRTMENTS Madangir few years back, and one of them died. The other two Jats, turned hostile and did not give testimony in court. They were given money and so was the family with their only son dead. Soon they built their houses for rental purpose.
WHAT IS GREAT ABOUT SUCH PEOPLE WHO CAN SELL THE CORPSE OF THEIR OWN KIN.
HISTORICAL CHUCKLING IS WORTHLESS and DOWNFALL IS IMMINENT IF YOU ROT IN FAKE PRIDE of HINDU or JAT. AMERICANS HAD NO HISTORY AND LOOK WHERE THEY ARE. THEIR ARE PEOPLE MORE REASONABLE< MORE SENSIBLE, WITH LESS PRIDE ABOUT THEIR LOOKS AND GHAGRA CHOLI robe.


DUNG CAKES AND BIOGASS ARE TWO DIFFERNT PRODUCE OF DIFFERENT POTENTIALS> WE HAVE FACED JATnis IN US WHO MARRIED INTERCASTE FOR THE SAKE OF SOPHISTICATION< BUT MAKING DUNG CAKES FOR OTHERS TO EAT
MY TWO CENTS.
Bharat
 
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