Unemployment in Jat youth

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From time to time, I keep doing some research and thinking on the issue of unemployment in Jat youths as our new generation gradually moves away from agriculture as our primary occupation....

I thought it might be worthwhile to start a thread on this subject to hear from our think-tank: How do we percieve this issue ?; What do we think are the root causes behind this issue?; & What are some of the things that can be done to address this issue? etc.

It would be great to hear thoughts from some of our respected members...

Regards,
Deepender Hooda
 
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deepender said:
From time to time, I keep doing some research and thinking on the issue of unemployment in Jat youths as our new generation gradually moves away from agriculture as our primary occupation....

I thought it might be worthwhile to start a thread on this subject to hear from our think-tank: How do we percieve this issue ?; What do we think are the root causes behind this issue?; & What are some of the things that can be done to address this issue? etc.

It would be great to hear thoughts from some of our respected members...

Regards,
Deepender Hooda
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Hi Deepender,

Issue is very important. In past also we have discussed as to what all vocations Jat youth can undertake which suit them the most. I have been spending a great deal of time time thinking on this subject. Problem needs both short term and long term solutions. Let me put my thoughts point wise;

1. Primary Rural Education:
a. In my view this is root problem which requires radical approach. As of now, government is spending lots of money on teachers salary, but teachers hardly attend to their work and are not result oriented. Good students do not opt teaching as profession. Blame game has been going on between teachers and parents of students. Both have to take some blame. My suggestions to address this problem in our villages would be to appoint honorary guardians in every village who would keep track of the performance of kids from that village. These so called education guardians would monitor all aspects of issues related to the performance of each child from village. Details can be worked out in the form of a report. So I would leave it here.

b. As of now, there is hardly any infrastructure in rural schools. In my view, government should try to get into some kind of joint ventures with right type of people to revamp rural education. Total management of rural schools can be handed over to private educationists and government can pay the fixed amount per child as its contribution. Additional fees may be charged from students to improve infrastructure and the quality of education..One again a detalied report can be prepared on this. I am fully convinced that quality education can be provided in rural schools at very affordable prices.

2. As we all know, most rural youth spend a great deal of time on playing cards and drinking. I see no way to eradicate these two evils. If these can not be eradicated so easily, then why not to convert them both into opportunities? My answer is that distribute free chess kits in every village and give some initial training to them in chess playing. I am sure our villages would produce quite a few world class chess players. They will have name and money both. To promote the game, we can organise tournaments. Now coming to drinking. Wine production in India is controlled. Wine production must be de-regularised. Training for wine production should be imparted to rural youth. wine tasting and production could become a big rural industry.

3. Games: Rural youth should be educated about commercial importance of games. Rural youth hardly know about any major money making games.

4. Rural marketing: Many studies have been conducted on rural marketing and its poetntial. Rural youth can prove very useful if proper marketing education is provided. We need not award them MBAs. All we need to do is to provide them some crash courses of 3-4 months in very basics.

5. Food processing and packaging on small scale: If we compare with west, in India we hardly know how to handle our agro produce. There is massive opportunity in this area and the investments are not so high if one wants to start at small scale.

6. Fine arts: Many of our rural youth has good looks. They can be motivated into acting and modelling. Painting is a million $$ vocation. I am sure few can make even into that. Does not require too much of an investment.

I am sure members / think-tanks will come out with many interesting ideas and ofcourse the strategies to implement them.

RK^2
 
While supporting the views expressed by Rajendraji, I would like to add that the prevalent "mandi" system for agricultural products should be discouraged. Instead space for "farmers markets" in small towns and cities should be earmarked where our farmers can market their products without the intereference of "dalals".
 
Deependra Beta,
U raised a very important issue.
Here is a good example:
Recently Mr Dhan Pal Singh (DP Singh) visited here in Australia from India.
He gave a talk at Arya Samaj Centre. His talk was considered the best so far.
Mr Singh was born in a jat family in Bijnore district of UP.
He is a engineer (mechanical) from Roorkee and retired as director with Govt of India. After taking premature retirement he devoted his life to Gaytri Privar at Haridwar. Gaytri parivar has 10,000,000 members.
His social work is doing wonders.
During last five years he has worked hard to promote bee farming and solid waste management.
DP Singh Ji has helped 10,000 unemployed rural youths who are able to earn 2 to 3 lacs rupees a year by bee farming. Because of him, India has become a big exporter of honey.
He is also helping people to start Vermi Compost farms and organic farming, with very high potential for self emplyment. At present India is considered one of the most dirty country, but Mr Singh is confident that in next five years India will become a very clean country. I wish all of you should join this yajna and all our retired brothers and sisters in india must help Mr DP Singh Ji.
Mr DP Singh is now back to India his mobile is 9412 0720 10
and his email is dpsingh_kamal@yahoo.com.
I requsted Mr Singh to become member of JatLand and he agreed to become a member soon.

I humbly request all of you to take his free guidence.
Because of his good work, a political party cadre requested the chief minister to meet Mr Singh. The chief minister asked him how can I help you.
Mr Singh told only help you can do is, please do not interfere in this noble work.

Next time I will give more examples

regards
Ishwar Lamba
 
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Respected Lamba ji,

This seems like a brilliant grass-root level entrepreneurship work. I would surely like to and try to get in touch with Mr. DP Singh - will let you know how that goes...

Please, please share more examples such as these like you indicated. Mr. DP Singh is a true hero, and we need more men like him.

Regards,
Deepender
 
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Rajendra Uncle ji and Sehrawat ji -

This example seems close to the true 'Rural Solutions' that both of you had discussed in one of the other threads. Worth noting. I also agree with most of what both you have noted in your respective messages. In essence the solution lies in the villages is what I am understanding for both you so far....

Amoung others, I really like the idea of focussing on Rural educations - schools in the villages.
To build on the ideas that Rajendra Uncle ji suggested -- can't we begin to think about something like a one room computer-training-center-cum-central-library in each village with a few computers with high speed internet connecitivity, printers, other basic hardware, 1-2 operators and one adhoc teacher(only basics like Microsoft office tools & Internet to be taught)....can't something like this be implemented with a viable business model...can't we privatise only this part of the village schools to start with like Rajendra Uncleji suggested? .......We can't afford libraries for each village like west but we can afford internet, right?

Regards,
Deepender
 
Hi Deepender,

Whatever we decide to do in villages, the first step has to be to identify a person who is committed to the cause. Nothing will succeed unless we have that key person. Various support kits can then be provided to this person to provide the services. Systems work in India only when we have dedicated persons running them. This key person can be made honorary Village Development Organiser (VDO). Village Panchayats should have nothing to do with these programmes as most of them play dirty politics. I will prepare a detailed report on the implementaion modelities of village projects.

RK^2
 
rkumar said:
Hi Deepender,

Whatever we decide to do in villages, the first step has to be to identify a person who is committed to the cause. Nothing will succeed unless we have that key person. Various support kits can then be provided to this person to provide the services. Systems work in India only when we have dedicated persons running them. This key person can be made honorary Village Development Organiser (VDO). Village Panchayats should have nothing to do with these programmes as most of them play dirty politics. I will prepare a detailed report on the implementaion modelities of village projects.

RK^2
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Well said Unceji.... Panchayats have nothing to do except playing dirty politics..
 
Hi Deepender,

You have raised a very valid Point.

I am fully agreed with Rajendra Uncle that worst evil in our villages is drinking and gambling.we have to make efforts to stop that.

Also to create a different Job Oppurtunities for our Rural youth.

Regards
Jitender
 
Good & Sensible...

Dear All,

A very good and sensible subject raised.

My fear is of a little different type. With rapid development taking place in the National Capital Region (NCR), there is a lurking fear that we may not be left with Villages as we have known them. Most of the land would either be sold off or acquired by big business houses and/or the government. There is already a talk of developing satellite townships. I wonder whether some of our politicians, who would not miss an opportunity to take credit for this development, think about creating some 'Green Zones' too.

We can't and should not stop development. Need of the hour is to prepare and empower our rural folk to face the challenges that would come with urbanisation. Otherwisw once the fields that were so proudly tilled by our grandfathers would be converted into concrete jungles. Then our generations would seek jobs from the occupiers of our own land. IRONIC.

Finding dedicated people, who have no secret agenda, to go back to the villages and work there is a million dollar question. And whether such a volunteer would be able to convince his own folks that he is there to stay is the next question.

I have no doubt that members are genuinely thinking for the betterment of our villages and surely something positive would come out of these discussions and efforts.

Regards,

JS Malik
 
Dear all,
Deepander have raised a very imp issue .This issue irritated me since my childhood .I have seen many iornies ; such as
people once start doing some work are really hard working and passionate
still there is little devlopement.
I know some persons with say 20 acre fertile land ,which may cost 1 crore Rs
but still pathatic situation.

In my opinion this is all due to poor management.And who can manage ?
a person who aquires some position never returns.There are many famous person from my village (including Bhupinder singh hooda) ,but nothing changes ,to see the problems we must see them closely.
Do not take me in a wrong way ,if some person(except he is exceptionally optimistic)tries for some amendment ,he will see so much hurdles ,he will probably give up.My family members generally tell me that you want a bright future and finally you want to come back to the vill ,then you are wasting your life.
I know people in my village ,they will not ask us to guide their childern
but will be interested in stopping our progress.
What I think is ,that the problem is basic knowledge among the villegers .
Many people still do not know that how much imp is the basic education .
Most young boys still have dream job to be a constable in haryana police.
Which they do not get even after paying 3 lac Rs bribe.
I have seen persons investing millions of Rs in court cases.
They still think physical strenght is something to do in this hi tech world.
Theachers generally keep on sleeping in class hours and are still given divine status.Imagine how 10+2 standerd Physics can be teached without using black board (my friend told me that in ch dadri )
Passing in 10 class is recognised as a achievment .
I would like to say there is a complete lack of educational competance .
there are persons who will never accept that someone can be interested in there benefit .
So a gradual change in this mentallality is also required which certainly can come with quality of education.

Sorry if this hurts somebody,but i can not just close my eyes from truth.




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jasbirhooda said:
Dear all,
Deepander have raised a very imp issue .This issue irritated me since my childhood .I have seen many iornies ; such as
people once start doing some work are really hard working and passionate
still there is little devlopement.
I know some persons with say 20 acre fertile land ,which may cost 1 crore Rs
but still pathatic situation.

In my opinion this is all due to poor management.And who can manage ?
a person who aquires some position never returns.There are many famous person from my village (including Bhupinder singh hooda) ,but nothing changes ,to see the problems we must see them closely.
Do not take me in a wrong way ,if some person(except he is exceptionally optimistic)tries for some amendment ,he will see so much hurdles ,he will probably give up.My family members generally tell me that you want a bright future and finally you want to come back to the vill ,then you are wasting your life.
I know people in my village ,they will not ask us to guide their childern
but will be interested in stopping our progress.
What I think is ,that the problem is basic knowledge among the villegers .
Many people still do not know that how much imp is the basic education .
Most young boys still have dream job to be a constable in haryana police.
Which they do not get even after paying 3 lac Rs bribe.
I have seen persons investing millions of Rs in court cases.
They still think physical strenght is something to do in this hi tech world.
Theachers generally keep on sleeping in class hours and are still given divine status.Imagine how 10+2 standerd Physics can be teached without using black board (my friend told me that in ch dadri )
Passing in 10 class is recognised as a achievment .
I would like to say there is a complete lack of educational competance .
there are persons who will never accept that someone can be interested in there benefit .
So a gradual change in this mentallality is also required which certainly can come with quality of education.

Sorry if this hurts somebody,but i can not just close my eyes from truth.




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Dear Jasbir,

Every word of what you have mentioned, is true. Many of us have very strong desire and sound strategies in place already..Trust me, you will see some action on the ground. There will be initial problems and frustrations, but I am sure we will address them all as we move along.

RK^2
 
Jasbir (sidenote: Jasbir and I are from the same village in Rohtak!!) has touched on very real topics that we need to face if we are brave enough to dream of a glorious future for our next generations.
One of the neighbours in my village recently had an opportunity to work with a private company, which he did not take because he is looking for a govt job. He told me he'll be satisfied even with a peon job and would rather wait for that than start with the private company who he thinks will really make him work...he is already about 30 and still not married as we are finding difficult to get a girl....
I'm afraid this example is not unlike many other youths in my village and area in general.

What Jasbir said about the ambition to become a police constable seems also very true...Although I feel the things have already starting to change for good from an attitude perspective, but surely we need more......

I share Rajendra Uncle ji's passion and optimism on this subject; I think we can not afford to not be optimists....



jasbirhooda said:
Dear all,
Deepander have raised a very imp issue .This issue irritated me since my childhood .I have seen many iornies ; such as
people once start doing some work are really hard working and passionate
still there is little devlopement.
I know some persons with say 20 acre fertile land ,which may cost 1 crore Rs
but still pathatic situation...................................l
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Respected Rajendra Uncle ji,

I like the idea of VDO, only apprehension I have is would this also become victim of over politicization in same vain as gram panchayats like you indicated......Can we include panchayat in this somehow? I really am not sure what is the right answer here? but I am EAGERLY waiting to discuss some of the things you have in mind in details....

By the way, I just came accross another good successful rural project in Nepal -- this was accomplished with help of World Bank -- providing solar lamps to rural students at low costs, so that the students may study with least interruption due to power shortages; and creation of mobile Solar shops in to generate little bit of employment and interest too.....

Regards,
Deepender



rkumar said:
Hi Deepender,

Whatever we decide to do in villages, the first step has to be to identify a person who is committed to the cause. Nothing will succeed unless we have that key person. Various support kits can then be provided to this person to provide the services. Systems work in India only when we have dedicated persons running them. This key person can be made honorary Village Development Organiser (VDO). Village Panchayats should have nothing to do with these programmes as most of them play dirty politics. I will prepare a detailed report on the implementaion modelities of village projects.

RK^2
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deepender said:
Respected Rajendra Uncle ji,

I like the idea of VDO, only apprehension I have is would this also become victim of over politicization in same vain as gram panchayats like you indicated......Can we include panchayat in this somehow? I really am not sure what is the right answer here? but I am EAGERLY waiting to discuss some of the things you have in mind in details....

By the way, I just came accross another good successful rural project in Nepal -- this was accomplished with help of World Bank -- providing solar lamps to rural students at low costs, so that the students may study with least interruption due to power shortages; and creation of mobile Solar shops in to generate little bit of employment and interest too.....

Regards,
Deepender
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VPO has to be honorary position with no financial benefits. The moment we make it a paid post, politics will enter into it. Panchayats can play supplementary role if they so wish. A committed gram pradhan can always act like a VPO. Commitment to education is the key requirement for the person acting as VPO. Improving rural education cannot be done by government alone. Strong public participation is very important. Motivating general public to come forward and getting involved into education is what people like VPO or us have to do. My approach would be to create a sample village first and then demonstrate the idea. Computer education is also part of project as I posted under some other thread earlier. There are lots of issues, which can be covered under rural education like;

1. Parental education
2. Career education
3. General guidance
4. Subject coaching
5. Health guidance
6. Education on the importance of law and order

List can go on..


RK^2
 
Dear Col Malik ji,

I can see some of your apprehensions regarding continued expansion of NCR; however my view on this issue is: NCR is emerging as a huge engine for economic growth for all the surrounding areas and I think we need to figure out how to best leverage this growth to the advantage of our youth and next generation. Like you have mentioned, this explosive growth is inevitable, we need to make best out of it while remaining completely optimistic. We don't have the other option...
Now let me acknowledge your paramount concern: resource consumption around all our big cities, due to population explosion and economic growth, is surely reaching record levels and that I fear will emerge as do-or-die problem for India in years to come. I am reading a book these days called "Collapse", it talks about how societies based on their interaction with environment chose to survive or fail altogther. Extinctions of Mayas and Easter Islanders are painful examples....Easter Islanders cut the very last tree on their island to build statues and boats; and millions died afterwards leading to total extinction of civilization, for they never planned for future..so it could be a very potent problem....In fact in the CIA reports that notes India as a rising world power in this century, this problem is noted as the single biggest hurdle to our stakes:
CIA Webpage : http://www.cia.gov/nic/NIC_globaltrend2020_s2.html

"Just like China, India may stumble and experience political and economic volatility with pressure on resources—land, water, and energy supplies—intensifying as it modernizes. For example, India will face stark choices as its population increases and its surface and ground water become even more polluted."

Sorry about the tangent there, maybe we need to discuss enviroment in a seperate thread...

Warm regards,
Deepender


jagmohan said:
Dear All,

A very good and sensible subject raised.

My fear is of a little different type. With rapid development taking place in the National Capital Region (NCR), there is a lurking fear that we may not be left with Villages as we have known them. Most of the land would either be sold off or acquired by big business houses and/or the government. There is already a talk of developing satellite townships. I wonder whether some of our politicians, who would not miss an opportunity to take credit for this development, think about creating some 'Green Zones' too.........
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Jat Youth

Dear Deepender, Rajendra, Jagmohan and Lamba ji: Namaskar.
Yes a good basic education is important for our youth and involvement of parents and thus villagers is important to get the best out of the school education even within the present system. Hard part is finding some dedicated people from the village without an agenda to get involved with the education. But we can not be pessimistic abt it and after discussions here or with some other people just drop a good idea without trying! You can't expect cooperation of everybody, what with all the bad things happening to good people all the time, people in general are skeptics and have to be convinced with some solid work of your good intentions. I would not blame people in general for being skeptics, unless you are a Sadhu of any kind - good or bad.
Hurdles will always be there in giving a practical shape to your idea and of course you will encounter all sorts of people, some very helpful but most "taang khenchu". You do not have to go far to see this phenomenon, just see what Rajendra has to go thru, have to read some stupid and insulting comments abt his noble cause of starting a rural cancer hospital. But you can't just take that to heart and give up the idea.
Last week I had the fortune of Dr. Ghasi Ram Verma's company for a couple of days when he stayed with us. He is a person who has done tremendous amount of work for rural girl education with his efforts and his own money and is still very active inspite of his advanced age, he is respectfully known as "krorepati fakir" as he earns crores but keeps nothing for himself. He cited an example of Dr. Sharma, a professor in New York. Dr. Sharma tried for 2-3 years to get permission to start a Women's College in Malsisar, Rajasthan, the village he migrated from, with his own money. He met with one hurdle after another. During one of those visits to India, he saw Dr. Verma in Jhunjhunun where Dr Verma spends 3-4 months on volunteer work, he broke down while questioning himself," Am I crazy or what? Why am I wasting my time, efforts and money for all this heartache? Should not I be enjoying my life in US and forget abt my village?" Only after pusuation and some help from Dr Verma, he carried on, got the college approved and built and now it is a shining example of what can be achieved to help rural people by a dedicated person.
I know from experience of starting and running a school in Kalirawan that after 5 years my village folks are convinced of my intentions and the benefit of good education. They (mainly parents of the students) take interest in day to day education of their kids and participate enthusiastically in every school function. We did find some very dedicated people there and are always looking for more to participate in the school affairs and other projects of the Trust.
Lamba ji has brought to our attention the work of a great soul. It is an example we should be proud of and is someone to be followed and helped in every way. I am hoping in my life time to see and hear abt more people like him, Dr. Verma and Rajendra. May God bless
them.
Dear Deepender, I hope you do not give up and will have something to show for your efforts.
 
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During one of those visits to India, he saw Dr. Verma in Jhunjhunun where Dr Verma spends 3-4 months on volunteer work, he broke down while questioning himself," Am I crazy or what? Why am I wasting my time, efforts and money for all this heartache? Should not I be enjoying my life in US and forget abt my village?" Only after pusuation and some help from Dr Verma, he carried on, got the college approved and built and now it is a shining example of what can be achieved to help rural people by a dedicated person.
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Dear Ram Arya ji,

These words that you quoted from Dr. Verma are inspiring really....personally speaking, I'll try and always remember these words. I wholeheartedly agree with you, we have to keep on trying with total optimism...
Thanks,
Deepender
 
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In addition to what Mr. Kumar said about vocations, Sports is one career which our youth can pursue. I think we do have a natural aptitude for sports. Obviously then comes the question of resources in building facilities and providing training! I know there are already some schemes in haryana which could be improved upon. Also, being a female, its natural for me to point out that something should definitely be worked out for our girls to participate more in sports...believe me they would do very well...

The main hurdle in this area again is politicisation of the whole thing...i know from my cousins in haryana, many PT teachers in government schools who sit on their bums all day because their jobs are not based on performance...all the girls play in these schools is kho kho!!

being a billion people nation, we hardly excel or take interest in any other sport except cricket!
 
youth unemployment

Dear Frnds,

we all agree that the unemployment is going very high with our community. but the most important part is that people in our community do not want to c ontribute if someone tries to help out. I have got end number of examples. I am into HR. I have tried to put people in some companies through my reference. these all people were trying out job for 6- 12 months and they failed. Now when i got them the job. they complain about the projects and all different crap issues. My only concern is that we just want to have everything without doing anything. we do not want to stick and grow. my recommendation to our community people is that stop complaining, just think of growing with time.

The key factor of unemployment in our society is:
we feel that the govt. sector jobs are better than anything. as we do not have to work so hard as compare to private sector. Approach needs to change.
We need to work out our communication. to speak a fluent english is a big barrier in society. we tend to speak regional dialect when Jats meet.

Let us work out all these and try to be more professional. even writing these jokes and all.

Let us make people feel the heat of our community by our brain rather than physique

Regards

Viijay
 
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