shamshermalik
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Thats what I said. Intercast marriage and untouchability are different and not allowing intercast marriage does not mean that we practice untouchability.
Untouchability in villages in Haryana
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Thats what I said. Intercast marriage and untouchability are different and not allowing intercast marriage does not mean that we practice untouchability.
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who says !!!!!
in the mid -day meal schemes in schools ,children of churey chamars were made sit seperately in many schools.....
can u tell me the name of a single villege wherey chamars are allowed to draw water frm jats wells....???
have u ever seen a chura smoking hukka wid jats ??? they still live in outside the villege ...still they r called "CHAMAR KA".,,, dhead,,, gindal .....
aur sarkar ney jo gaam saarpanchi khater reserved karey sein,,,,urrey bhi jo sarpanch banney sein ,, they cant dare to go against jats.....bcoz sm of them r their SIRIes.........
aur bhai rahi baat inter-cast marriage ki,,,a person just ignores the cast due to attraction otherwise nobdy is goin to marry a chura chamar.....
n there is no diff between ur haryana n others haryana ....... diff is in ur eye.... u have visited so many places so far ,{ur location} make a spare time to visit haryana also.......
dear vj,,, dont talk officially, put ur step in social practice in villeges of haryana.......only the diff in last years is, they r allowed to let their shadows fall upon a jat..........
in the mid -day meal schemes in schools ,children of churey chamars were made sit seperately in many schools.....
can u tell me the name of a single villege wherey chamars are allowed to draw water frm jats wells....???
have u ever seen a chura smoking hukka wid jats ??? they still live in outside the villege ...still they r called "CHAMAR KA".,,, dhead,,, gindal .....
aur sarkar ney jo gaam saarpanchi khater reserved karey sein,,,,urrey bhi jo sarpanch banney sein ,, they cant dare to go against jats.....bcoz sm of them r their SIRIes.........
aur bhai rahi baat inter-cast marriage ki,,,a person just ignores the cast due to attraction otherwise nobdy is goin to marry a chura chamar.....
n there is no diff between ur haryana n others haryana ....... diff is in ur eye.... u have visited so many places so far ,{ur location} make a spare time to visit haryana also.......
Rupender Bhai,
I have close contat with my village , but maybe not close enough ... i was raised in Rohtak and left India when i was 16 ... so i do agree with you that i might not be aware of the details .. what what i can remember and what i have seen .. points to the contrary .. that untouchability is not present ..
about different wells i dont know .. and yes in my village too the churas live outside the villages ..
i will check with my dad the next time i talk to him ... about the wells .. and about eating at the ceremonies of low castes ...
I have close contat with my village , but maybe not close enough ... i was raised in Rohtak and left India when i was 16 ... so i do agree with you that i might not be aware of the details .. what what i can remember and what i have seen .. points to the contrary .. that untouchability is not present ..
about different wells i dont know .. and yes in my village too the churas live outside the villages ..
i will check with my dad the next time i talk to him ... about the wells .. and about eating at the ceremonies of low castes ...
Good thread
Thanks to the starter of the topic for choosing this topic.
Untouchability is too deep rooted to go away so easily. Though interaction amongst the castes is increasing, but only at individual level. SC/ST Quotas, political strategies to divide the society and carve out dedicated vote banks, vested interests and our own prejudices are some of the primary reasons why this corrupt practice continues.
I dont know whether it can be a contributory factor. But I feel that centuries of Islamic rule followed by that of the British polluted our thinking. They heaped humilition and contept upon the natives. And we learnt it from them. Now our ruling classes / castes give the same treatment to others. Basically it is the downtrodden and weak that are at the receiving end. Members pl give your comments / inputs.
Widening the topic, here is a look at Casteism from another angle
A Pluralists encounter with a Missionary
Kalavai Venkat
July 2006
The Hindu Renaissance
Once, a Southern Baptist missionary was my co-passenger in a flight. Like every missionary out to seek a convert, he was pleasant. After learning that I am a Hindu he asked, “Is the caste system going away in India?” I quipped “Why should it go away?” He was surprised by my response and remarked, “You are the first Hindu who responded this way. Most Hindus agree that caste must go away and say that it is slowly going away.”
I decided to turn the tables on him. I asked him, “What language do the African Americans speak?” He replied, “English.” I asked, “What did their ancestors speak 500 years ago?” He began to contemplate. I thought that I might have to wait for eternity like the Christians have waited for the second coming of their messiah before the missionary would answer, so I prompted him, “Swahili? Hausa?” He agreed, “Yes.” I asked, “Do the African Americans worship the animist deities of their ancestors? Do they wed and bury per their ancestral customs?” The missionary replied, “No.”
http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?id=1155676617&type=ARTICLES
Thanks to the starter of the topic for choosing this topic.
Untouchability is too deep rooted to go away so easily. Though interaction amongst the castes is increasing, but only at individual level. SC/ST Quotas, political strategies to divide the society and carve out dedicated vote banks, vested interests and our own prejudices are some of the primary reasons why this corrupt practice continues.
I dont know whether it can be a contributory factor. But I feel that centuries of Islamic rule followed by that of the British polluted our thinking. They heaped humilition and contept upon the natives. And we learnt it from them. Now our ruling classes / castes give the same treatment to others. Basically it is the downtrodden and weak that are at the receiving end. Members pl give your comments / inputs.
Widening the topic, here is a look at Casteism from another angle
A Pluralists encounter with a Missionary
Kalavai Venkat
July 2006
The Hindu Renaissance
Once, a Southern Baptist missionary was my co-passenger in a flight. Like every missionary out to seek a convert, he was pleasant. After learning that I am a Hindu he asked, “Is the caste system going away in India?” I quipped “Why should it go away?” He was surprised by my response and remarked, “You are the first Hindu who responded this way. Most Hindus agree that caste must go away and say that it is slowly going away.”
I decided to turn the tables on him. I asked him, “What language do the African Americans speak?” He replied, “English.” I asked, “What did their ancestors speak 500 years ago?” He began to contemplate. I thought that I might have to wait for eternity like the Christians have waited for the second coming of their messiah before the missionary would answer, so I prompted him, “Swahili? Hausa?” He agreed, “Yes.” I asked, “Do the African Americans worship the animist deities of their ancestors? Do they wed and bury per their ancestral customs?” The missionary replied, “No.”
http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?id=1155676617&type=ARTICLES
well i did check with my dad and i realised .... that i was a bit mistaken ...
Yes there are different hookas ..... baniyas have different hooka , brahmins different , jats and BC's sometimes have a common hooka , and the SC have seperate .......
The wells used to be different too .... now that they have municipal water supply .. the SC's have different times to come and take the water ....
and they still dont prefer to eat or drink at SC houses
But i still hold the view that lower castes are treated much better in haryana than any other part of India ....
Yes there are different hookas ..... baniyas have different hooka , brahmins different , jats and BC's sometimes have a common hooka , and the SC have seperate .......
The wells used to be different too .... now that they have municipal water supply .. the SC's have different times to come and take the water ....
and they still dont prefer to eat or drink at SC houses
But i still hold the view that lower castes are treated much better in haryana than any other part of India ....
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