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imalik
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Don we think tht especially jat changes alot after a US visit except few?
Is it so!!
Indu.
Is it so!!
Indu.
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dpdagar
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Hi Indu,
Please stop posting these conflict-ridden topics...and focus on positive things...please accpet my sincere apology in advance for making such a blunt request.
Dagar
Please stop posting these conflict-ridden topics...and focus on positive things...please accpet my sincere apology in advance for making such a blunt request.
Dagar
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suny04
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Indu Malik (Feb 11, 2004 11:09 a.m.):
Don we think tht especially jat changes alot after a US visit except few?
They even forget our indian culture and do starts even criticising our own culture n values.
A 360 degree change.
May i have some light on it ?
Indu.
if this is 360 deg.change then how can the end result can be any different??
well all jats are different...a delhi jat is different from bhopali jat...and so on...
u have rajasthan jats, haryana jats, UP jats,
punjab jats, mumbai jats, chennai jats, uk jats,
australian jats, fiji jats, usa jats, italian jats, russian jats, dubai jats, new delhi jats, gurgaon jats, mahipalpur jats, sonepat jats, nagaur jats, jodhpur jats, merrut jats, bulandshar jats,...
tilak gali jats, ram gali jats, jatland.com jats, jatclub.com jats, texas jats, california jats, boston jats...IAS jat, doctor jat, engineer jat, clerk jat, kissan jat, criminal jat, neta jat, abhineta jat...har jagah jat hain...difference dhundo to hazaroo milenge, commonality dhundho to sirf ek kafi hai...
yeh "versus" ke chakkar mein pad gaye to zindagi lut jayegi.
u have rajasthan jats, haryana jats, UP jats,
punjab jats, mumbai jats, chennai jats, uk jats,
australian jats, fiji jats, usa jats, italian jats, russian jats, dubai jats, new delhi jats, gurgaon jats, mahipalpur jats, sonepat jats, nagaur jats, jodhpur jats, merrut jats, bulandshar jats,...
tilak gali jats, ram gali jats, jatland.com jats, jatclub.com jats, texas jats, california jats, boston jats...IAS jat, doctor jat, engineer jat, clerk jat, kissan jat, criminal jat, neta jat, abhineta jat...har jagah jat hain...difference dhundo to hazaroo milenge, commonality dhundho to sirf ek kafi hai...
yeh "versus" ke chakkar mein pad gaye to zindagi lut jayegi.
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uday
Guest
Om !!! Shanti.. Shanti.. Shanti..
Hi Everybody,
I have seen lots of cases in out jat community which shows that they become US JATS instead of INDIAN JATS.Few of my friends are studing in USA and when they came back India.They are saying here is no electricity,no cyber cafe and lots of dusts.kAHTE HAIN "Waapis aane ko man hi nahi karta lekin kya karein majburi hai yahan to bahut garmi hai,dhool ud rahi hai,sadak aachi nahi hain jabki wo 2 saal pahle yahi rahta tha etc.".They shows less indian and more USA activity here.
I don't know why it is so?
We Indian Jats should always be indians jats wherever we may live in the world.
-Balraj
I have seen lots of cases in out jat community which shows that they become US JATS instead of INDIAN JATS.Few of my friends are studing in USA and when they came back India.They are saying here is no electricity,no cyber cafe and lots of dusts.kAHTE HAIN "Waapis aane ko man hi nahi karta lekin kya karein majburi hai yahan to bahut garmi hai,dhool ud rahi hai,sadak aachi nahi hain jabki wo 2 saal pahle yahi rahta tha etc.".They shows less indian and more USA activity here.
I don't know why it is so?
We Indian Jats should always be indians jats wherever we may live in the world.
-Balraj
danarambeerda
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well i aint agree on this issue, caz the jat i m fameliar with them have became more sincere with jat community then they ever been before for an example Dr Ghasi Ram Verma who is the most helpful guy for our samaj i ever seen.
keep up guys
keep up guys
Dear All,
One reason why we don't make progress proportional to our potential is because we waste our time in such topics (Me too, but I am a retired person and in my second career and I have a lot of time).
What regionalism are we talikng about here? If 1731 members, and supposedly educated, can't believe that we as a community are one then God alone can help us. Sorry, God too has no time for such people or communities for HE helps those who help themselves. I learnt this when I was in Standard III.
Dhool udde se? Shukar hai ye nahin kaha ki saath mein badbu bhi aati hai. Let us face some facts people. I have been interacting with few US JATS since I became a member of this site. They are respectful and sincere. However, I don't see them as this JAT or that JAT. A JAT is a JAT.
I am reminded of my days spent in the foothills of Assam and Arunanchal Pradesh two decades ago. A lot of road side 'dhabas' had come up. One of them had a board 'GOHANA HINDU JAT DHABA', while the other had 'SAFIDON JAT DHABA'. I stopped and asked them why they had written so. It was a simple matter actually. They were meeting points for the drivers of a particular area. And I believe JATLAND is meeting point for JATS. God forbid if the displayed intellect of some members is appreciated and accepted, tomorrow we might have different sites for different States and/or Gotras !!
Did you get the point or not? Let us try and become one community, literally. There have to be differences when every 50 miles you have a change of dilect. Why don't we learn from each other rather than finding out what differences we have.
My Grandmother was from UP (Near Mathura), Mother is from Dilli Suba, Wife is from UP (Baghpat) while I am from Haryana (Sonepat). I don't have a daughter but if I can motivate my only niece (note motivate nor force), I would like to marry her in a JAT family in Rajasthan. Sorry for this I, me and myself but what I am getting at is that what counts is you as an individual and not from where you belong.
Thanks,
Lt Col JS Malik (Retd)
One reason why we don't make progress proportional to our potential is because we waste our time in such topics (Me too, but I am a retired person and in my second career and I have a lot of time).
What regionalism are we talikng about here? If 1731 members, and supposedly educated, can't believe that we as a community are one then God alone can help us. Sorry, God too has no time for such people or communities for HE helps those who help themselves. I learnt this when I was in Standard III.
Dhool udde se? Shukar hai ye nahin kaha ki saath mein badbu bhi aati hai. Let us face some facts people. I have been interacting with few US JATS since I became a member of this site. They are respectful and sincere. However, I don't see them as this JAT or that JAT. A JAT is a JAT.
I am reminded of my days spent in the foothills of Assam and Arunanchal Pradesh two decades ago. A lot of road side 'dhabas' had come up. One of them had a board 'GOHANA HINDU JAT DHABA', while the other had 'SAFIDON JAT DHABA'. I stopped and asked them why they had written so. It was a simple matter actually. They were meeting points for the drivers of a particular area. And I believe JATLAND is meeting point for JATS. God forbid if the displayed intellect of some members is appreciated and accepted, tomorrow we might have different sites for different States and/or Gotras !!
Did you get the point or not? Let us try and become one community, literally. There have to be differences when every 50 miles you have a change of dilect. Why don't we learn from each other rather than finding out what differences we have.
My Grandmother was from UP (Near Mathura), Mother is from Dilli Suba, Wife is from UP (Baghpat) while I am from Haryana (Sonepat). I don't have a daughter but if I can motivate my only niece (note motivate nor force), I would like to marry her in a JAT family in Rajasthan. Sorry for this I, me and myself but what I am getting at is that what counts is you as an individual and not from where you belong.
Thanks,
Lt Col JS Malik (Retd)
So Mr. Dagar
what are you saying??? i think these topics are very Important !!!! then what do you need??? some frizzed jokes..??..
man, Think like thoughts of man !!!!
These topics are really Excellent if you think positively, there is only one problem with Indu's posts requirement of brain to think....its truth man!!!
so mr. dagar try to improve the situation .....
what are you saying??? i think these topics are very Important !!!! then what do you need??? some frizzed jokes..??..
man, Think like thoughts of man !!!!
These topics are really Excellent if you think positively, there is only one problem with Indu's posts requirement of brain to think..
..its truth man!!!so mr. dagar try to improve the situation ..
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dpdagar
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...ur right man....
I know only one thing 'I can not win a argument'..
so thx Mr Palsaniya...At least we have a gr8 thinker like u congratulations.
Dagar
I know only one thing 'I can not win a argument'..
so thx Mr Palsaniya...At least we have a gr8 thinker like u congratulations.
Dagar
Whats wrong abt complaining abt bad roads, no electricity, no cyber cafe, dust etc?
Dont we need good roads, 24 hrs electricity, internet connectivity, cleaner neighbourhoods ?
Why do we accept this low quality or no returns from our govt? If the govt expects us to pay our taxes in full, why dont we expect full returns from the govt ?
If going to USA, makes us realise how we have been fooled by our govt, so be it. kisi ko to akal ayii.
Complaining abt something thats wrong just shows USA jats are better. Accepting bad stuff just shows Indian Jats are still being fooled. So, this example for bad charachteristic of USA jats is wrong.
Try another one...
Dont we need good roads, 24 hrs electricity, internet connectivity, cleaner neighbourhoods ?
Why do we accept this low quality or no returns from our govt? If the govt expects us to pay our taxes in full, why dont we expect full returns from the govt ?
If going to USA, makes us realise how we have been fooled by our govt, so be it. kisi ko to akal ayii.
Complaining abt something thats wrong just shows USA jats are better. Accepting bad stuff just shows Indian Jats are still being fooled. So, this example for bad charachteristic of USA jats is wrong.
Try another one...
I
imalik
Guest
Truth is always bitter in taste and hard to digest.
I
imalik
Guest
Dear Rajendra ji,
I felt nice after seeing that when you Thinks of jat, yu mean jat only irrespective of their location.
I felt nice after seeing that when you Thinks of jat, yu mean jat only irrespective of their location.
I
imalik
Guest
Please read the lines again.
You always try to give a different direction to it.
You always try to give a different direction to it.
Dear Indu,
I can understand how you feel like. However, let me tell you that a Jat always remains rustic at heart does not matter where he lives. I move from Village to City and from India to Europe, USA very frequently, but my heart remain in my village. I am sure same is true about most jat boys. However, there is one thing which I am sure most married Jat boys suffer ( I certainly suffer and confess this). Problem is not with boys, its with their wives who start disliking villages and particularly their sasuraals in villages. Its they who demand modern amnities and not the boys. This separates the jat boys slowly from villages. It takes really guts of a jat boy to overcoem this problem. May be you can enlighten us on married jat girls' behavour better as to why they hate going to their sasuraals in villages. I have met jats from all over places and find no problem at all with them. However, Jat married girls don't like village jats visiting their city homes. I know thousands of such cases. So to me the problem is not of jats from USA and India, but of married Jat girls who really hate village jats vising their homes..Its they who frown upon the village jats and not the jat boys. Please correct me if I am wrong. I totally agree with Anil what he has written in his posts on this subject.
Regards
Rajendra
I can understand how you feel like. However, let me tell you that a Jat always remains rustic at heart does not matter where he lives. I move from Village to City and from India to Europe, USA very frequently, but my heart remain in my village. I am sure same is true about most jat boys. However, there is one thing which I am sure most married Jat boys suffer ( I certainly suffer and confess this). Problem is not with boys, its with their wives who start disliking villages and particularly their sasuraals in villages. Its they who demand modern amnities and not the boys. This separates the jat boys slowly from villages. It takes really guts of a jat boy to overcoem this problem. May be you can enlighten us on married jat girls' behavour better as to why they hate going to their sasuraals in villages. I have met jats from all over places and find no problem at all with them. However, Jat married girls don't like village jats visiting their city homes. I know thousands of such cases. So to me the problem is not of jats from USA and India, but of married Jat girls who really hate village jats vising their homes..Its they who frown upon the village jats and not the jat boys. Please correct me if I am wrong. I totally agree with Anil what he has written in his posts on this subject.
Regards
Rajendra
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dpdagar
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Hi Indu,
reason why I asked u to stop posting these topics is:
I think Jatland.com is designed to help educated jats for networking
..friends...to get professional help.......etc etc..
we are not here to prove ..who is better or worse etc.
Also I know many jats in US who are preserving jat culture better than Jats
in India.
..its look like u have been to north america ?
also have u lived in a village ?
have u done any part of your schooling from Rural school ?
have u helped any jat(s) in any way ?
can u speak ur local language fluently ?
if answer to any of the above questions is 'Yes' ...than u might understand
jat culture..
so please do not mind my comments ...
Dagar
reason why I asked u to stop posting these topics is:
I think Jatland.com is designed to help educated jats for networking
..friends...to get professional help.......etc etc..
we are not here to prove ..who is better or worse etc.
Also I know many jats in US who are preserving jat culture better than Jats
in India.
..its look like u have been to north america ?
also have u lived in a village ?
have u done any part of your schooling from Rural school ?
have u helped any jat(s) in any way ?
can u speak ur local language fluently ?
if answer to any of the above questions is 'Yes' ...than u might understand
jat culture..
so please do not mind my comments ...
Dagar
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