US JATS VERSUS INDIAN JATS?

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Hi Everybody,

I request you everybody to stop discussing on this topic now.Everybody had already given a lots of arguments and comments.I think everybody know the actual truth behind it .May be some of your family members or relatives are in US.

This jatland website is not for not putting message and doing arguments on that.But it's for doing or taking action in favour of this jat community.

I hope no body will do unusual arguments and discussion in future.

I am sorry if anybody mind or feel it.I put this message here because further disscussion will create confliction,misunderstanding and hate between the members.Due to that the member will stop taking interest in this website and that will not be good for this project.Actually this happened and I have noted.Also I have heard from some peoples or members.

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Balraj
 
A healthy discusssion is a good discussion. Everybody had right to be critical about any issue. So the reader has to take the matter objectively rather than subjectively.

I am for the people to come out and share their views and thoughts on any topic. Others have a chance to engage in the discussion or just neglect it.

Thanks.
 
I agree with Sanjeev...this is a discussion..if someone doesnt want to b a part of this..he/she is free to ignore it or to b a part of it
 
Namaste everybody,

Currently I am in US (california) and experiencing the life here. These ppl have lots and lots of money and very less population to provide facilities with. Country size is many times that of India, resources are huge. Everyone is educated and so on. Bring it to the level of population that India has or yahan bhi dhool udegi, badboo aayegi ;-)

India is doing gr8 comparing the resources that we have and the population that we need to support. We don't have that much space that govt can construct 6 lane roads inside cities etc. First priority is to remove poverty and only then a sweeper will look nice going to work in a toyota. believe me, here sweepers, mail, waiters they all have big cars :-).

So, some of the US jats when come here do change a little bit in behavior and all. After all Jats are also human. Thay all can not be good and sober and nice and..... Otherwise Gaziabad and Muzaffarnagar wouldn't have been having such high crime rates.

But leaving that aside, as the site have forums like General talk and other areas, we should be open to criticism and discussion on evils in Jat community. Yahn koi ek bhai joke post karta hai or 8 bhai wah wah karte hain. Chahe woh PJ hi kyun na ho. Jats are not chamcha kind of ppl who keep chanting wah wah and everything is good kind stuff. Discuss whatever comes to you, good, bad and ugly.

Aaj ki date mei ek jat police mei bharti ho jata hai or woh 5 lac ki dowry maangne lagta hai. Bhai, jameen kam ho gayee hai (getting divided between brothers), ladki ka baap 5 lac kahan se layega. Jahan tak hamne suna hai 30-40 saal pehle condition aisi nahi thee. Aaj ki date mei bachhe school baad mei jate hain, gang pehle ban jata hai. In villages more than 50% kids have access to kattas (desi pistols). Ghar mei gud 9jaggery) kam sugar jyada use hoti hai, and that toio in villages. Villages mei logon ne hukka peena band kar diya hai, beedi jyada achhi lagti hai.

Jab villages mei itna change aa gaya hai, to cities mei to obvious hai and on top of that if someone moves to US than he is more prone to these changes.

I agree that most of the guyz on this site are well educated and sensitive to Jat issues. that's why they visit this site. They definitely are concerned and they are taking the comment that "US jats are different" personally. May be because many of them are in US. But do NOT please take it personally and think from a broader point of view.

Only if we can identify our negatives, we can do something to correct those. We do not have big pockets to construct roads and provide other facilities but definitely can do something to enrich our culture, increase the jat network and bring in the awareness.

or bhai logon rahi baat girls ki. woh sasuraal nahi jana chahati and so on. where do these girls inherit these attributes. Obviously from we people - Jat males. Hum sab ke hi to saath rahti hai. This means that Jat fathers are also changed. They do not inculcate the feeling in girls that they should love their sasurals. Or ho sakta hai ki sasural mei bhi kuch kami ho. sabko apne ladke bahut pyaare lagte hain par bahuon se expectations kuch or hi hoti hai.

Bahut sara likh diya. pehli baar website par itna kuch likha hai ;-)

ab mere se mat lad padna ;-) mei to is ladai pisaad se door hi rahon.

Many many cheers.
Say cheeessssseee.....
 
Vimal Saab,
I dont know how long u have been in US, but what u r describing is very "stereotype" US.
1) Everyone is not educated.
Just try ask the person behind the counter, whats 2+2 and take away his machine ;)
2) Europe and Japan, taiwan, singapore, hong kong etc has higher population density than India...wahan dhul nahi udti, nahi badboo aati hai...
3) Go deep inside the city or far out of the city, u will find all the dust and badboo...WARNING: Never go there !, it will be a miracle if u return in 1 piece.
3) 6 lane roads where not constructed in the city...first 6 lane roads where constructed and then the villages turned into city.
4) Everyone has big cars, bcos their is no alternative..no public transport...except in big cities like NY or LA...here half the city does not have car
5) Everyone has big cars, bcos its affordable...in india more than half of the cost of cars is taxes...bcos govt thinks its a luxury and not a vehicle of progress

...generally we miss to see the ugly face of US initially...bcos we dont venture out or interact with locals..office...ghar...disneyland...niagara...ke lawa kahin jaate nahi hain...


cheers !!! have fun in california
 
Good points all Anil!
Let's try to think beyond the simple (but wrong, or at least incomplete) population explanation as the cause of all problems.

anil chaudhary (Feb 26, 2004 01:34 p.m.):
Vimal Saab,
I dont know how long u have been in US, but what u r describing is very "stereotype" US.
1) Everyone is not educated.
Just try ask the person behind the counter, whats 2+2 and take away his machine ;)
2) Europe and Japan, taiwan, singapore, hong kong etc has higher population density than India...wahan dhul nahi udti, nahi badboo aati hai...
3) Go deep inside the city or far out of the city, u will find all the dust and badboo...WARNING: Never go there !, it will be a miracle if u return in 1 piece.
3) 6 lane roads where not constructed in the city...first 6 lane roads where constructed and then the villages turned into city.
4) Everyone has big cars, bcos their is no alternative..no public transport...except in big cities like NY or LA...here half the city does not have car
5) Everyone has big cars, bcos its affordable...in india more than half of the cost of cars is taxes...bcos govt thinks its a luxury and not a vehicle of progress

...generally we miss to see the ugly face of US initially...bcos we dont venture out or interact with locals..office...ghar...disneyland...niagara...ke lawa kahin jaate nahi hain...


cheers !!! have fun in california
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US aisa bhi nahin hai jaise aapne bataya...kabhi Alabama jaoge to real US dekhne ko milega...Let us not forget that 12.5% population in US is below poverty line (less than $360 per yr).
 
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