Vrat recipes

[malikdeepak1]

Today I am starting this thread vart (fast) recipes .
you can make various recipes in fast ….but before starting this thread I want to give some introduction about fast
fasting has been an inextricable part of our traditions through the ages . Whether it is for religious or spiritual reasons, or it is for to good health. Fasting is a tradition to please God

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THIS IS THE REAL MENING OF "VRAT"

Varat ( fasting ) means to take a oath of any kind for that day or some days, week or weeks, month or months, or a year etc. This oath can be for anything -

WHY DO I NEED A "VRAT" TO MAKE A CERTAIN RESOLUTION OR TAKE AN OATH?? I SHOULD HAVE STONG PRINCIPLES RATHER SO THAT I DONT HAVE TO TAKE ANY SUCH OATH MENTIONED BELOW!!

(1) Not to eat food the whole day - this is the most common meaning of this word. In this people do not eat anything for the whole day.


(2) To eat only one thing - such as eating only fruits or milk, or yogurt or roots or juice, or eating yellow things like in Brihaspati Var Vrat.

I CAN TAKE THEM ANYDAY ANYTIME.. WHY I NEED A "VAAR" TO EAT SUCH THINGS MENTIONED IN POINT 2,3,4?


(3) To eat only some special thing along with other things - such as eating sesame seeds in Sakat Chauth Vrat, Chivadaa (beaten rice) and rice Kheer in Sharad Poornimaa Vrat, etc.


(4) To abstain from some one food - such no salt in Mangal Vaar Vrat, or no grains in navratri, no grains and salt in mony Vrat like Ekaadashee, Shiv Raatri, Krishn Janmaashtamee, etc.


(5) To abstain from any bad habit (like to take oath not to smoke, or not to eat meat, or not to drink liquor etc) or speaking (Maun Vrat) etc - this is also a kind of Vrat.

WHY MAKE SUCH HABITS IN THE FIRST PLACE?? WHAT WILL HAPPEN ONCE "VRAT" IS OVER?? AGAIN START DRINKING??


(6) To develop good habits - like to take oath to speak truth, or to donate something everyday, or to serve any institution for a month or so.
So now I am giving my fist vart recipe and it’s a sweet dish….


YE SANSKAR HOTE HAI, INKE LIYE VRAT RAKHNE KI JARURAT NAHI.. PARIVAR SE AISE SANSKAR LO AUR FIR INPAR ACHE SE AMAL KARO.. VRAT KARNE SE SACH BOLNA SHURU KAR DIYA.. AUR AGAR BEECH ME JHUTH BOL DIYA TO??:livid:

aapki ye bat ek dum theek kahi jo mandiro me dan diya jata hai uss sabka kya hota hai....kaha jata hai sab jante hai.......but kya aap jante hai jo insan uss dan ko deta hai usske sath kya hota hai.......uske ander namrta ati hai....uska swabhav namar banta hai.....ye bat shart laga kar likhti hu.....jo insan mandiro me sache man se dan karta hai kabhi uss insan ke pass koi bhi jarurt mand insan jata hai to wo uss insan ki dil khol kar aapne samrth ke anusar madad karta hai....

Mere mata-pita mandir nahi jaate kabhi.. par wo kabhi kisi maangne wale ko khali hath nahi jane dete. Agar ghar par khana bna hota hai to roti jarur khilate hai.. wo kahte hai ki khaana khuwaye kaa aur paani pyaaye ka sabte bada dharam hoya kare.. jaruratmand ki madad karo..wohi bhagwan ki sewa hai.. kamjor log hi sahaare dhundte firte hai.. apne sathi me sahaara nahi milta to bhagwan ke piche pad jaate hai..

Bura bilkul mat maan-na, par jin patthro par hum paer rakh kar chalte hai, kal ko koi unhi ki murti bnaa kar mandir me rakh deta hai, to log uski dhok maarne lag jaate hai.. irony!!



to Mr. deepak ji ye daan pandito ko ke liye nahi khud ke liye hota hai aapne aap ko jamin par rakhe ke liye hota hai .......
aur rahi devi ke mandir se ate time kuch log mar gaye the too aapke liye janam aur mirtyo do aisi chize hai kab hogi kaha hogi koi nahi janta.....agar koi insan janam lega to marega bhi ab wo mot chahe devi ke mandir se ate hue ho ya phir devi ke mandir me hoo.......

Jankiji, jab mrityu nischit hi hai, aur jo hona hota hai wo ho ke rhta hai, to murtiyo ke peeche bhaagne ka matlab hi kya?? Jeevan mila hai to mrityu bhi hogi.. vrat rakhne se kuch nahi hota, ye sirf or sirf pandito ke ijaad kiye hue "fund" hai.. taki inki FREE me pet-puja chalti rahe..


I apologise if I sounded rude somewhere.. our ideologies are different, so difference of opinion is natural..

 

[anilsangwan]

ओह ले ....दो तीन दिन पाछे आज देखा मेंने तो आक के रासा हो रा स इस थ्रेड में........

Janki Madam,.....आप की रेसिपी की मेंने तारीफ इ करी स......आप ने के दूस्र्याँ ताईं व्रत राखन की कही स....

एर दूस्र्यान तें के लिखना स एर के नहीं ( Moral policing)... to आप घणा ज्ञान मत बांटो जी........ नहीं तो फेर उपर आला जवाब आप पे भी लागू s .......!! साची कहो एर सुखी रहो आली नीति स आपनी...!

एर बाकी की बातां का जवाब आतिश, रविन्द्र्जीत एर दीपक भाई ने दे दिया.... वो इ भोत अगर समझ में आ जागी तो.......... मेरे केन्ने भी क्यों बीण बज्वावो ...

upar ke jitne bhi reply the un sabhi ko padh kar dukh nahi hua kyoki wo alag soch rakhne walo ki alag alag rai thi......lekin aapki ye line padh kar dil se bura laga......chaliye maan liya aap bhagwan me vishwas nahi rakhte .....vrat me bhi nahi rakhete hai......... lekin sanskaro me to yakin rakhte hi honge...........aapko kya lagta hai iss tahra se kisi ladki ko reply kar kar aapne bahot hi achi baat ki hai....... janti hu ye reply mere liye nahi hai lekin jiske liye aapne reply kiya hai wo ek ladki hai...... aur agar koi ladki ke liye iss tahra ki bhasa ka pariyog karta hai to dil se bahot jyda bura lagta hai........waise yahan ek baat aur kahna chahugi......jiss samaj me ladkiyo ki ijjat nahi hogi uss samjh me ladkiyo ki kammi hogi hi hogii....

 

[jchoudhary]

Main aapke vicharon ki kadar karta hoon parantu unse kadapi sehmat nahi hoon. Har kisi ka apna apna tarika hota hai vichar vyakat karne ka. Isliye jaisa aap sochte hain jaroori nahi hai waisa hi main sochoon! Yadi aapko meri baat acchi nahi lagi to kripya karke mods ka darwaja khatkhatein aur mughe baksh dein!!

atish ji maine kisi ko yahan nahi kaha hai jaisa mai sochti hu waisa hi aap sochiye ...... mai to hamesha ek bat bolti hu meri soch aap sabhi se thodi alag hai..... aise me meri soch ka aapse na milna koi alag bat nahi hai...... aapke reply ke niche kisi ne reply kiya tha uss reply ko padh kar shayd hurt hui thi jiski wajh se maine aapko aisa likha..... aur ab iss reply ke jariye mai sirf aapko hi nahi pure jat land se ek swal uthana chahti hu..... jab yaha kisi achi bat ko dekh kar uski tarfi ki jati hai to buri bat ko dekh kar uski burai kyo nahi ki jati......aapke comment ke niche jiss insan ne jo likha agar ussko padh kar kisi bhi jatland user ko sharmindagi nahi mahsus hui ke ek user ne kisi women ke liye itne disrespected word wo bhi publicly likhe aur kisi ko koi park nahi pada .....aur pada bhi to kisi ne kyo nahi un words ka virodh kiya.......agar wo words kisi Jat ke liye hote tho shayd mai bhi padh kar ignore kar deti.....lekin mai kayar nahi hu ke kisi female ke sath bure vahwar ko dekh kar chup ho jao aur ye socho ke ye mere sath nahi ho raha hai.......
mujhe aapka koi bhi word bura nahi laga.....bura laga to ye laga ke pure jat land par ek bhi aisa insan nahi hai jo kisi women ke liye likhe gaye bure word ke liye khul kar ye bol sake ke bhai jo bolna hai bolo but kisi ke liye iss tahra ki bat naa karo......agar aisa hai to mai sharminda hu ke mai aise samaj ka anag hu......
aur agar aapko meri bat buri lagi to mai mafi chahuzi.......

 

[jchoudhary]

जानकी ,मेने पहले भी कई बार लिखा हुआ हे ,पर आप नई हैं , इस लिए फिर लिख देता हूँ | ज्ञान अनंत हे ,यदि कोई सोचता हे की वो ही ग्यानी हे ,तो वो भ्रंम में जी रहा हे | यहाँ जाट लैंड पर जो एक्टिव बन्दे हैं ,चाहे वे नेगेटिव (मेरे प्रिपेक्ष में ) या पोजेटिव लिखते हों ,पर उनको ज्ञान तो जरूर हे | हर व्यक्ति कुछ ना कुछ ज्ञान औरों से अधिक रखता हे | इस लिए में जाटलैंड को कुछ और अधिक जानकारी लेने का साधन मानता हूँ | अब रही ब्राहमण और ज्ञान की बात :-ब्राहमण कोण हे ? जो ब्रह्म में रमण करता हो वो ब्राह्मण कहलाता हे ( ब्रह्म = ज्ञान ,रमण = चलन ,विचरण ) यानी कोई भी ग्यानी व्यक्ति ब्राहमण हो सकता हे | यहाँ पर मेरा तात्पर्य ,उन् पाखंडी ब्राह्मणों से था , जिनोहने वैदिक धर्म को बदनाम किया हे और अपनी जाती विशेष खड़ी कर ली हे ,अपनी मुफ्त की पेट पूजा के लिए | भूखा रहने से कोई भगवान् ,देवता खुश नहीं होता ,अगर ऐसा था तो फिर भगवान् ने पेट क्यूँ लगाया ? फिर उस दिन शोच आदि भी नहीं करना चाहिए | क्योंकि ये भी तो उस्सी पेट से जुड़े हुए हैं | ये एक अन्धविश्वास से अधिक कुछ नहीं हे |में इन् चीजों को आप की पाक कला के रूपमे देखता हूँ ,जो की सहरानिये हैं , और ये अच्छी खाने की चीजें हैं |
पंडित कोई जाती नहीं होती | जब लोग गुरुकुल में पढ़ने जाते थे तो ये स्नातक ( ग्रेजुएशन ) होने पर दि जाने वाली डिग्री होती थी |पुराने गर्न्थों में वेद और उपनिषद ही ज्ञान का भण्डार हैं | पौराणिक साहित्य सब बकवास हैं |

ravinder ji... aap hamse bahot bade hai mai aapki tahe dil se respect karti hu......mai jab bhi jatland par ati hu to yahan par threads ,history section adi sab padhti rahti hu aur abhi tak jitne bhi thread padhe hai unme meri najar me jitna bada yougdan iss site par Mr. Ravi Chaudhary, Mr. lakshman Burdak, Mr.Dayanand Deswal ya phir Dr.Rajpal singh ka hai utna hi bada yougdan aapka bhi hai...... bus anter wishay vastuo ka hai in sabhi ki wishay vastu history hai to aapki wishay vastu mujhe loktiya ya kiwadantiya lagti hai jo jat samaj me thi ya phir hai.....maine jyda threads to nahi padhe hai lekin aapka ek thread tha jispar aapne kuch chhoti chhoti kahaniya aur aisi bate likhi thi jo maine bhi bachpan me aapni dadi ji se suni thi...lekin shayd un sabhi ko bhul gayi thi.....uss therad par aapke wichar padh kar mai aapki bahot badi fan ban gayi thi.......
aur brahman word ke bare me jo definition aapne di hai agar aap meri lines ko theek se padhege to maine bhi wahi bat likhi hai anter sirf shabdo ka hai maine sabdo ko likhte hue unhe thoda easy banane ki kosish ki thi.....
maine shastr ,ved, upnishad wagra nahi padhe hai..... lekin haan mine 4 saal pahle shiv puran jaur padhi thi....waise uski jydatar bate bul chuki hu lekin jo bhi bate mujhe uss time achi lagi thi mujhe wo sab yaad hai.......aur un sabko yahan likh kar mai ek aur nayi bahas nahi chedna chahti hu........
maine ye jo bhi recipe post ki hai unko yaha likhne ka mera udeshay yahan aapni pak kala ko pardarshit karna nahi hai......mai yahan jo recipe likhti hu un sabhi ko yaha likhne ka sabse bada karan dusro ko in recipes ko batana hai aur agaru kisi ko kuch nayi recipe ati ho to unko sikhna hai.....kyoki hamare yaha kisi ko bhi jyda recipes nahi ati hai....aur ye sab recipes maine kais tahra sikhi hai mai hi janti hu.....cooking karna mujhe acha lagta hai aur meri soch yaha ke logo ke jaisi sirf jato tak simit nahi hai mai sirf bhartiya hi nahi dusre desho ka bhi khana banana sikhna chahti hu.....aur mujhe lagta tha ke iss tahra ek forum par agar haam cooking ke method ya phir kuch new dish banani sikhte hai to aur kisi ke bare me nahi janti lekin mera iss site ko join karna safl ho jata.........

 

[jchoudhary]

Jankiji, jab mrityu nischit hi hai, aur jo hona hota hai wo ho ke rhta hai, to murtiyo ke peeche bhaagne ka matlab hi kya?? Jeevan mila hai to mrityu bhi hogi.. vrat rakhne se kuch nahi hota, ye sirf or sirf pandito ke ijaad kiye hue "fund" hai.. taki inki FREE me pet-puja chalti rahe..


I apologise if I sounded rude somewhere.. our ideologies are different, so difference of opinion is natural..

deepak ji jiss first line ko aapne highlight kiya hai fasting is a tradition to please god.... to maine saf saf sabdo me kaha hai mai fast bhagwan ko khush karne ke liye hi karti hu.........
WHY DO I NEED A "VRAT" TO MAKE A CERTAIN RESOLUTION OR TAKE AN OATH?? I SHOULD HAVE STONG PRINCIPLES RATHER SO THAT I DONT HAVE TO TAKE ANY SUCH OATH MENTIONED BELOW!!

har bat ko aapne par lena ki aapko jaruat nahi hai aur ye bolna galta hai ke mai kyo fast rakhu......maine ye post specialy aapke liye nahi likha hai.....aise hajaro lakho log hai jo fast rakhte hai........

I CAN TAKE THEM ANYDAY ANYTIME.. WHY I NEED A "VAAR" TO EAT SUCH THINGS MENTIONED IN POINT 2,3,4?

kabhi kabhi jab ham bimar hote hai tab hame medicine lene ki jaurt padti hai ........medicin hamari jan bachati hai lekin iska matlab ye nahi ke haam bina bimari ke hi medicine khani shuru karde........

WHY MAKE SUCH HABITS IN THE FIRST PLACE?? WHAT WILL HAPPEN ONCE "VRAT" IS OVER?? AGAIN START DRINKING??

hmmmm intresting line hai...........lekin soch kar dekhiye jara jo insan bahot drink karte hai aur ek din bhi bina drink ke nahi rah sakte hai agar aisa insan ek din ke liye bhi drink chhod de to aapko nahi lagta ke ye achi bat hai............mai ase bahot se logo ko janti hu jo pahle bahot drink karte the lekin kisi khash oath ki wajh se unhone hamesh ke liye drink karna hi band kardiya.....agar aisi kisi chiz se samaj ka ek bhi insan sudharta hai to aisi bato ki sahrana karna sikhiye..........

YE SANSKAR HOTE HAI, INKE LIYE VRAT RAKHNE KI JARURAT NAHI.. PARIVAR SE AISE SANSKAR LO AUR FIR INPAR ACHE SE AMAL KARO.. VRAT KARNE SE SACH BOLNA SHURU KAR DIYA.. AUR AGAR BEECH ME JHUTH BOL DIYA TO??

iss thread par kisi ne rekha di ke liye kuch words likhe jinhe padh kar mujhe bahot hurt hua tha.....aur ye bat bilkul dil se bol rahi hu wo baat padhne ke bad next pura din mai iss bat se hurt rahi ke mere dwara start kiye hue thread par kisi ke samman ko dhes pahuchi.....last 14 15 yr se mai navratro ke fast rakh rahi hu......bahot se fast mai sirf falo par rakhti hu but navratre jaha tak mujhe yaad ata hai mine kabhi bhi falo par nahi rakhe hamesha iss din kuch bhi bana kar pahle maa ko bhog lagane ke badme prashad ke rup me wo chiz khayi hai......lekin uss din first time aisa hua ke maine kuch nahi banaya iss guilt ke sath ke meri wajh se kisi ka publicly apman hua.......aur jab sham ko online aayi to maine ussi insan ke reply par rekha di ka like dekha jisse dekh kar mai fut kar ro padi ki jiss insan ke disrespect ke liye mai itna sharminda mahsus kar rahi hu.....unhe iss bat se fark hi nahi pada aur wo reply acha laga tab to mai hi isse aapni disrespect samjhne lagi thi.......aur sach kahau to uss time mai unhi ke liye yaha kuch words likhne wali thi lekin phir socha ab yaha kisi ke bare me bolna hi nahi hai......aur phir rekha di mujhe chaupal par dikhi to mera pahla swal unse yahi tha ke aapne uss insan ke comment ko like kyo kiya to unka jo reply tha ye unke exact word nahi hai lekin jo bat thi wo likhti hu.....agar wo insan samjhdar hoga to shayd usse dekhkar khud hi sharminda hoga........aur unki wo bat padhkar mere man me unke liye bahot jyda ijjat badh gayi ...........too isse bolte hai sanskar ....jo shayd sirf bhartiye ladkiyo me hi milte hai isliye bhartiye values ko dil se chahti hu...aur proud karti hu ke mai yaha paida hui hu...

Mere mata-pita mandir nahi jaate kabhi.. par wo kabhi kisi maangne wale ko khali hath nahi jane dete. Agar ghar par khana bna hota hai to roti jarur khilate hai.. wo kahte hai ki khaana khuwaye kaa aur paani pyaaye ka sabte bada dharam hoya kare.. jaruratmand ki madad karo..wohi bhagwan ki sewa hai.. kamjor log hi sahaare dhundte firte hai.. apne sathi me sahaara nahi milta to bhagwan ke piche pad jaate hai..

Bura bilkul mat maan-na, par jin patthro par hum paer rakh kar chalte hai, kal ko koi unhi ki murti bnaa kar mandir me rakh deta hai, to log uski dhok maarne lag jaate hai.. irony!!

9th class me kabir ka ek doha padha tha.......

Paahan poojay hari miley ta mai pooju pahaad
tate yah chakki bhali pis khaaye sansar

pathar pujne se hari miltey hai to mai pahad ki pooja karta hu........isse to achi wo chakki ke do pat hai jisse pise hue anaj ko sansar khata hai.....

mai fast rakhti hu......lekin iss pooja patha se meri dincharya par koi fark nahi padta hai mai pura din har din ki tahra sab kam karti hu...balki iss din thoda jyda hi kaam karti hu kyoki mujhe iss bich pooja ke liye bhi thoda time nikalna hota hai.......aur mere liye sabse pahle mere bhagwan mere mom dad hai.........jinki pooja karna mai aapna pahla dharm samjhti hu........

 

[jchoudhary]

ओह ले ....दो तीन दिन पाछे आज देखा मेंने तो आक के रासा हो रा स इस थ्रेड में........

Janki Madam,.....आप की रेसिपी की मेंने तारीफ इ करी स......आप ने के दूस्र्याँ ताईं व्रत राखन की कही स....





एर दूस्र्यान तें के लिखना स एर के नहीं ( Moral policing)... to आप घणा ज्ञान मत बांटो जी........ नहीं तो फेर उपर आला जवाब आप पे भी लागू s .......!! साची कहो एर सुखी रहो आली नीति स आपनी...!

एर बाकी की बातां का जवाब आतिश, रविन्द्र्जीत एर दीपक भाई ने दे दिया.... वो इ भोत अगर समझ में आ जागी तो.......... मेरे केन्ने भी क्यों बीण बज्वावो ...

aapne meri recipe ki tarif karkar mujh par koi ahasan nahi kiya hai mujhe jhuti tarife waise bhi pasand nahi hai...........dusri line theek se samjh nahi aayi kya likha hai....jo samjh aaya uska jawab deti hu.......agar padhe likhe hai to pure thread ko dobara theek se padhiye......maine yahan kisi ko bhi fast rakhne ke liye nahi kaha hai..........aur naa hi ye kaha hai ke aap fast kyo nahi rakhte hai......ye sabka aapna vyktigat vishay hai wo fast rakhna chahta hai ya phir nahi............
mai moral police nahi hu......mai ek insan hu......ek ladki hu.......aur isse aapna dharm samjhti hu ke agar kisi ladki ke sath apman hota hai to usske liye samne aakar kahau......kyoki agar aaj me ye dekhar chup ho jati hu ke ye mere sath nahi hua to shayd aap jaise logo ki isse himat badti hai aur kal ko mujh par bhi aise hi likh sakte hai.........likh sakte hai kya aapne to bol hi diya hai ke aapke liye bhi yahi lines hai........mai swabhimani ladki hu.......kisi ko fark pade ya na pade mujhe fark padta hai.............
aur jin logo ke naam aapne diye hai mai unsabhi ke reply issliye nahi karna chahti thi kyoki mai nahi chahti thi ye thread ab aur highlight ho......aur chahti thi ke ye bat yahai khatm ho jaye.......ladkiya chup ho jati hai to iska matlab ye nahi hota hai wo kamjor hai iska matlab hai wo shayd samnewale ki ijjat ka khayal rakhti hai kyoki agar usne palat ka jawab diya to uss insan ki kya ijjat rah jati hai........lekin aapne saman ki rakhsha karna ham ladkiyo ke liye utna hi jaruri hota hai jitna ki aapke liye.........

yahan mai ek aur special line aapke reply ko like karne walo ke liye likhna chahti hu........agar aapko inki bate itni achi lagi hai to yaad rakhiye aapke ghar me bhi beti aur bahue hogi aaj aap kisi dusre ki beti ya bahue ke sath ho rahe aapman ko acha samajhte hai to yaad rakhiye aise logo ka koi din dharm nahi hota hai aise log ho sakta hai kal aapki hi bahu ya phir beti ke liye aise hi words likh de......aur phir abhi jin hatho se aap inki wah wahi kar rahe hai badme unhi hatho se aapne matho ko pitege ............

 

[spdeshwal]

Today I am starting this thread vart (fast) recipes .
you can make various recipes in fast ….but before starting this thread I want to give some introduction about fast
fasting has been an inextricable part of our traditions through the ages . Whether it is for religious or spiritual reasons, or it is for to good health. Fasting is a tradition to please God
Varat ( fasting ) means to take a oath of any kind for that day or some days, week or weeks, month or months, or a year etc. This oath can be for anything -
(1) Not to eat food the whole day - this is the most common meaning of this word. In this people do not eat anything for the whole day.


(2) To eat only one thing - such as eating only fruits or milk, or yogurt or roots or juice, or eating yellow things like in Brihaspati Var Vrat.


(3) To eat only some special thing along with other things - such as eating sesame seeds in Sakat Chauth Vrat, Chivadaa (beaten rice) and rice Kheer in Sharad Poornimaa Vrat, etc.


(4) To abstain from some one food - such no salt in Mangal Vaar Vrat, or no grains in navratri, no grains and salt in mony Vrat like Ekaadashee, Shiv Raatri, Krishn Janmaashtamee, etc.


(5) To abstain from any bad habit (like to take oath not to smoke, or not to eat meat, or not to drink liquor etc) or speaking (Maun Vrat) etc - this is also a kind of Vrat.


(6) To develop good habits - like to take oath to speak truth, or to donate something everyday, or to serve any institution for a month or so.
So now I am giving my fist vart recipe and it’s a sweet dish….

Samak ke chawal ki kheer

Ingredient –

Samak ke chawal – ½ katori
Chini ( sugar ) – ½ katori
Dudh ( milk ) – 3 katori
iLaychi- 2
badam – 4,5

method-

sabse pahle samak ke chawal ko dho le ab ek cooker me samak ke chawla ,dudh aur ilaychi ko piss kar dal de… ab cooker ko band karkar ek whistle lagaye …. Whistle ane ke bad cooker ko khol le ab isme chini dal kar dobara pakane ke liye rakh de…aur jab tak kheer gadhi nahi ho jati tab tak ache se pakaye…aur jab kheer ache se pakk jaye tab gass ko band karkar kisi bartan me nikal kar upar se badam ya dusre dry fruits dal de….
Tayar hai samak ke chawal ki kheer…..

जानकी जी,
पहली बार इस चर्चा के माध्यम से परिचय हुआ है, अत: जाटलैंड पर हार्दिक सवागत करता हूँ!
आपकी प्रथम पोस्ट पर मेरी प्रतिकिर्या मिलीजुली रही! मुझे व्रत आदि से परहेज नहीं है, केवल कुछ शंकाएं हैं!
क्या आप थोडा विस्तार से समझाने की चेष्टा करेंगी, कि कोनसा व्रत किस लक्ष्य प्राप्ति के लिए है और क्या २ कर्मकांड करना पड़ता है!
क्या हर व्रत में निम्भाई जाने वाली किर्याओं में कोई वैज्ञानिक तालमेल होता है या केवल ज्ञानी पंडितों दुँरा इजाद कि हुई किर्याओं पर बिना शंका किये निभाना पड़ता है!

मेरा अपना विचार है कि अगर किर्या अवैज्ञानिक भी है पर तर्क कि कशोटी पर खरी उतरती है, शारीरिक व् मानशिक उर्जा प्रदान करती , तब भी उससे मानने में कोई संकोच नहीं होना चाहिए!
आगे चर्चा में आपने व्रत के कुछ लाभ भी चिन्हित किये हैं! में आपके विचारों से पूरी तरह सहमत हूँ कि वर्त रखने से आपकी इच्छा शक्ति मजबूत होती है, मनोबल सुद्रीढ़ होता है !
आपको हमारे कुछ मेम्बेर्स के उत्तर तर्कसंगत नहीं लगे होंगे ! आपको लगता होगा कि क्यों बिना कोई कारण दिए इतने लोग आपके विचारों से असहमति ही प्रकट नहीं कर रहे बल्कि सुनने को ही तैयार नहीं!
उसका कारण है आपकी और उनकी पृष्ठभूमि में अंतर है! ज्यादातर मेम्बेर्ज ग्रामीण अंचल से आते हैं जहाँ इस तरह के व्रत और उनसे जुड़े कर्मकांडों को ज्यादा मान्यता नहीं है !
बहुत सारे गाँव हैं जहाँ कोई मंदिर नहीं हैं! जाट आर्य समाज के अनुयायी रहे हैं अत: इस तरह के पूजा पाठ के विरुद्ध हैं!

में आप से पुन: अनुरोध करता हूँ कि आप हमे थोडा विस्तार से बताएं कि बृहस्पति व्रत , मंगल व्रत , संकट चौथ व्रत , एकादशी व्रत और नवराते आदि से सम्बंधित व्रत क्यों और किस विधि से किये जाते हैं!

खुश रहो!

 

[anilsangwan]

कुण पढ़ेगा तेरी इस राम कहानी नै ? .... चाल एक औड ने.... सर ना होवे.....खाम खा!!!

aapne meri recipe ki tarif karkar mujh par koi ahasan nahi kiya hai mujhe jhuti tarife waise bhi pasand nahi hai...........dusri line theek se samjh nahi aayi kya likha hai....jo samjh aaya uska jawab deti hu.......agar padhe likhe hai to pure thread ko dobara theek se padhiye......maine yahan kisi ko bhi fast rakhne ke liye nahi kaha hai..........aur naa hi ye kaha hai ke aap fast kyo nahi rakhte hai......ye sabka aapna vyktigat vishay hai wo fast rakhna chahta hai ya phir nahi............
mai moral police nahi hu......mai ek insan hu......ek ladki hu.......aur isse aapna dharm samjhti hu ke agar kisi ladki ke sath apman hota hai to usske liye samne aakar kahau......kyoki agar aaj me ye dekhar chup ho jati hu ke ye mere sath nahi hua to shayd aap jaise logo ki isse himat badti hai aur kal ko mujh par bhi aise hi likh sakte hai.........likh sakte hai kya aapne to bol hi diya hai ke aapke liye bhi yahi lines hai........mai swabhimani ladki hu.......kisi ko fark pade ya na pade mujhe fark padta hai.............
aur jin logo ke naam aapne diye hai mai unsabhi ke reply issliye nahi karna chahti thi kyoki mai nahi chahti thi ye thread ab aur highlight ho......aur chahti thi ke ye bat yahai khatm ho jaye.......ladkiya chup ho jati hai to iska matlab ye nahi hota hai wo kamjor hai iska matlab hai wo shayd samnewale ki ijjat ka khayal rakhti hai kyoki agar usne palat ka jawab diya to uss insan ki kya ijjat rah jati hai........lekin aapne saman ki rakhsha karna ham ladkiyo ke liye utna hi jaruri hota hai jitna ki aapke liye.........

yahan mai ek aur special line aapke reply ko like karne walo ke liye likhna chahti hu........agar aapko inki bate itni achi lagi hai to yaad rakhiye aapke ghar me bhi beti aur bahue hogi aaj aap kisi dusre ki beti ya bahue ke sath ho rahe aapman ko acha samajhte hai to yaad rakhiye aise logo ka koi din dharm nahi hota hai aise log ho sakta hai kal aapki hi bahu ya phir beti ke liye aise hi words likh de......aur phir abhi jin hatho se aap inki wah wahi kar rahe hai badme unhi hatho se aapne matho ko pitege ............

 

[vicky84]

Fake profile ke symptoms sain ye!!

कुण पढ़ेगा तेरी इस राम कहानी नै ? .... चाल एक औड ने.... सर ना होवे.....खाम खा!!!

 

[anilsangwan]

Fake profile ke symptoms sain ye!!

हा हा हा हा हा हा...लागै तो मेंने भी न्यू ए स भाई....... पर मका थोड़े दिन में अपने आप ए आगे आ जागी दुनिया कै......

 

[malikdeepak1]

deepak ji jiss first line ko aapne highlight kiya hai fasting is a tradition to please god.... to maine saf saf sabdo me kaha hai mai fast bhagwan ko khush karne ke liye hi karti hu.........

Karam ache karo, bhagwan apne aap hi khush rahega... Waise un 32 logo ki kya galti thi jo "devi" ko khush karne gaye aur wo khush hone ki bajaye krodhit ho gayi?? Aapko malum nahi hoga ki us haadse ki vjah se 19 parivar barbaad ho gaye ek hi gaon ke! Devi ko khush karne gaye the, gaon barbaad ho gya

WHY DO I NEED A "VRAT" TO MAKE A CERTAIN RESOLUTION OR TAKE AN OATH?? I SHOULD HAVE STONG PRINCIPLES RATHER SO THAT I DONT HAVE TO TAKE ANY SUCH OATH MENTIONED BELOW!!

har bat ko aapne par lena ki aapko jaruat nahi hai aur ye bolna galta hai ke mai kyo fast rakhu......maine ye post specialy aapke liye nahi likha hai.....aise hajaro lakho log hai jo fast rakhte hai........

Maine is baat ko apne upar lekar isliye reply kiya tha kyuki mai auro ko nahi janta aur na hi unka comparison kar sakta.. Apne bhi apni post ko "apne" se hi shuru kiya hai..

I CAN TAKE THEM ANYDAY ANYTIME.. WHY I NEED A "VAAR" TO EAT SUCH THINGS MENTIONED IN POINT 2,3,4?

kabhi kabhi jab ham bimar hote hai tab hame medicine lene ki jaurt padti hai ........medicin hamari jan bachati hai lekin iska matlab ye nahi ke haam bina bimari ke hi medicine khani shuru karde........

Do you see any comaprison here?? what is stopping me from consuming the recipes, that you have mentioned, daily? Khaane ki cheej me aur dawayi me difference hota hai.. Waise jab bimar hote ho, to VRAT hi kyu nahi rakh lete? Bhagwan khush ho jayega aur sab thik kar dega!! :boxing:

WHY MAKE SUCH HABITS IN THE FIRST PLACE?? WHAT WILL HAPPEN ONCE "VRAT" IS OVER?? AGAIN START DRINKING??

hmmmm intresting line hai...........lekin soch kar dekhiye jara jo insan bahot drink karte hai aur ek din bhi bina drink ke nahi rah sakte hai agar aisa insan ek din ke liye bhi drink chhod de to aapko nahi lagta ke ye achi bat hai............mai ase bahot se logo ko janti hu jo pahle bahot drink karte the lekin kisi khash oath ki wajh se unhone hamesh ke liye drink karna hi band kardiya.....agar aisi kisi chiz se samaj ka ek bhi insan sudharta hai to aisi bato ki sahrana karna sikhiye..........

Aur wahi insaan agar ek din chhod kar agle din fir daaru peene lag jaye to bi uski saraahnaa karu?? Ek example deta hu aapko shayd aap samjh jao.. Hmare pados me ek uncle the. Byot kam hi tha unke parivar ka. Daily daaru peete the.. Mere dadaji unko kayi baar tokte ki Maha Singh daaru naa piya kar, ghar ken dekh le.. Wo uncle ek lota paani ka laate aur usme namak daal kar bolte ki "Le tau, chhod di eebe!".. par sham ko fir daaru peekar ghar aate... Mera kahna sirf itna tha ki aisi khraab aadat mai baanau hi kyu jis-se mere ya mere parivar ke upar asar pade? There may be some genuine people trying to leave habit of drinking, par daaru chhodne ka dhong karne walo ki bhi kami nahi hai.

YE SANSKAR HOTE HAI, INKE LIYE VRAT RAKHNE KI JARURAT NAHI.. PARIVAR SE AISE SANSKAR LO AUR FIR INPAR ACHE SE AMAL KARO.. VRAT KARNE SE SACH BOLNA SHURU KAR DIYA.. AUR AGAR BEECH ME JHUTH BOL DIYA TO??

iss thread par kisi ne rekha di ke liye kuch words likhe jinhe padh kar mujhe bahot hurt hua tha.....aur ye bat bilkul dil se bol rahi hu wo baat padhne ke bad next pura din mai iss bat se hurt rahi ke mere dwara start kiye hue thread par kisi ke samman ko dhes pahuchi.....last 14 15 yr se mai navratro ke fast rakh rahi hu......bahot se fast mai sirf falo par rakhti hu but navratre jaha tak mujhe yaad ata hai mine kabhi bhi falo par nahi rakhe hamesha iss din kuch bhi bana kar pahle maa ko bhog lagane ke badme prashad ke rup me wo chiz khayi hai......lekin uss din first time aisa hua ke maine kuch nahi banaya iss guilt ke sath ke meri wajh se kisi ka publicly apman hua.......aur jab sham ko online aayi to maine ussi insan ke reply par rekha di ka like dekha jisse dekh kar mai fut kar ro padi ki jiss insan ke disrespect ke liye mai itna sharminda mahsus kar rahi hu.....unhe iss bat se fark hi nahi pada aur wo reply acha laga tab to mai hi isse aapni disrespect samjhne lagi thi.......aur sach kahau to uss time mai unhi ke liye yaha kuch words likhne wali thi lekin phir socha ab yaha kisi ke bare me bolna hi nahi hai......aur phir rekha di mujhe chaupal par dikhi to mera pahla swal unse yahi tha ke aapne uss insan ke comment ko like kyo kiya to unka jo reply tha ye unke exact word nahi hai lekin jo bat thi wo likhti hu.....agar wo insan samjhdar hoga to shayd usse dekhkar khud hi sharminda hoga........aur unki wo bat padhkar mere man me unke liye bahot jyda ijjat badh gayi ...........too isse bolte hai sanskar ....jo shayd sirf bhartiye ladkiyo me hi milte hai isliye bhartiye values ko dil se chahti hu...aur proud karti hu ke mai yaha paida hui hu...


There is a limit for everything. If I dont know something and keep on blabbering about it, it is frustrating for others. Mujhe bhi ye dekh kar bhot dukh hota hai ki aap jaisi padhi-likhi ladki aise paakhando me vishas karti hai.. Aur aap hi nahi, bhot sare log in cheejo me vishwas karte hia. In mandiro me chadaava chadhaane se acha hai mai apne gaaon ki Gaushaala me daan kar du.. It will be used for a better purpose..


Mere mata-pita mandir nahi jaate kabhi.. par wo kabhi kisi maangne wale ko khali hath nahi jane dete. Agar ghar par khana bna hota hai to roti jarur khilate hai.. wo kahte hai ki khaana khuwaye kaa aur paani pyaaye ka sabte bada dharam hoya kare.. jaruratmand ki madad karo..wohi bhagwan ki sewa hai.. kamjor log hi sahaare dhundte firte hai.. apne sathi me sahaara nahi milta to bhagwan ke piche pad jaate hai..

Bura bilkul mat maan-na, par jin patthro par hum paer rakh kar chalte hai, kal ko koi unhi ki murti bnaa kar mandir me rakh deta hai, to log uski dhok maarne lag jaate hai.. irony!!

9th class me kabir ka ek doha padha tha.......

Paahan poojay hari miley ta mai pooju pahaad
tate yah chakki bhali pis khaaye sansar

pathar pujne se hari miltey hai to mai pahad ki pooja karta hu........isse to achi wo chakki ke do pat hai jisse pise hue anaj ko sansar khata hai.....

mai fast rakhti hu......lekin iss pooja patha se meri dincharya par koi fark nahi padta hai mai pura din har din ki tahra sab kam karti hu...balki iss din thoda jyda hi kaam karti hu kyoki mujhe iss bich pooja ke liye bhi thoda time nikalna hota hai.......aur mere liye sabse pahle mere bhagwan mere mom dad hai.........jinki pooja karna mai aapna pahla dharm samjhti hu........

Mai apke last para ke bare me kuch nahi bolna chahta.. Murti pooja ek dhong hai jiske bal par ye pande aap jaise anek padhe-likhe logo ko bevkuf bnaakar apni dukaan chala rahe hai..

I am done here.. Please keep yourself up with your VRATs on different VAARs. By the way today is "MANGALVAAR", so please dont consume eggs!

 

[anilsangwan]

I am done here..

हा हा हा हा हा हा हा .......... मेरे ढाल तेंने भी हार मान ली के ? .......done doon का कोए चक्कर नहीं स... पेचकस ले कै तेरा दिमाग काढ कै खागी/खागा एब्बे तो ....करड़ा हो ले भाई ...!!!

 

[vicky84]

Sahi kahi bhai...Gosse se paath rakhe sainn.. !!!

हा हा हा हा हा हा हा .......... मेरे ढाल तेंने भी हार मान ली के ? .......done doon का कोए चक्कर नहीं स... पेचकस ले कै तेरा दिमाग काढ कै खागी/खागा एब्बे तो ....करड़ा हो ले भाई ...!!!

 

[rekhasmriti]

Bhaisahab -----apne padh li tabhi --- tabhi compliment pass kiya .

कुण पढ़ेगा तेरी इस राम कहानी नै ? .... चाल एक औड ने.... सर ना होवे.....खाम खा!!!

 

[rekhasmriti]

Atish ji---not fair ---aapko anil ji ke bare mei aise nahi kehna chahiye

( coz u have used his quote to reply )

Sahi kahi bhai...Gosse se paath rakhe sainn.. !!!

 

[rekhasmriti]

humare yahan khawat hai jo jaisa hota hai usse sari duniya waise hi dikhti hai .
Apko fake id ka experience hai tabhi---u know all the signs

Fake profile ke symptoms sain ye!!

 

[rekhasmriti]

@atish ji , anil ji and deepak ji

if someone beleive in fasting and rituals , how does that bother u . Folks----apna apna beleif hai----aap log nahi mante na mano .
She has utmost faith in all that , so please stop making fun of same .

I have no right to comment on the way you have replied , still for heaven or hell sake whereever u guys wanna go , re-read posts without being bias.
She has just posted some vrat recipes----follow karni hai toh karo---else pass folks .
Just out of some ego sake----u folks are replying -------

I am expecting -------lots of compliments on this post .
Do reply

Thanks in advance --meri expectations par khara utarne ke liye.

@janki ji------please u can also stop convincing them on same , its their life let them believe what believe in , u just follow ur faith , who cares about rest of the world .

Oh------I forgot my signature line-----
Sorry No offence folks , absolutely unintentional

 

[vicky84]

Kyu gail padd rehya sai...:stupid:

Bhaisahab -----apne padh li tabhi --- tabhi compliment pass kiya .

 

[ygulia]

Do not worry about it Rekh ji: in loga tei koi na koi khassan chayhia, aade ye Janki kei paachhe padd liye. Inka jatland pei yo hi kaam hai, jab tahi kise tei bhid nahi lete inki roti hazam nahi hoti.
Ek salah Janki ji ko jaroor doonga, Dharm ki in rudiwadi baaton mei jaaton ka viswas cum hota hai, isliye jaatland per use iska parchar avoid karna chhayie.

@atish ji , anil ji and deepak ji

if someone beleive in fasting and rituals , how does that bother u . Folks----apna apna beleif hai----aap log nahi mante na mano .
She has utmost faith in all that , so please stop making fun of same .

I have no right to comment on the way you have replied , still for heaven or hell sake whereever u guys wanna go , re-read posts without being bias.
She has just posted some vrat recipes----follow karni hai toh karo---else pass folks .
Just out of some ego sake----u folks are replying -------

I am expecting -------lots of compliments on this post .
Do reply

Thanks in advance --meri expectations par khara utarne ke liye.

@janki ji------please u can also stop convincing them on same , its their life let them believe what believe in , u just follow ur faith , who cares about rest of the world .

Oh------I forgot my signature line-----
Sorry No offence folks , absolutely unintentional

 

[malikdeepak1]

@atish ji , anil ji and deepak ji

if someone beleive in fasting and rituals , how does that bother u . Folks----apna apna beleif hai----aap log nahi mante na mano .

If my posts are not directed to you, how does that bother u?

She has utmost faith in all that , so please stop making fun of same .

If I do not have thoughts on the same line, does that mean I am making fun of her??


I have no right to comment on the way you have replied , still for heaven or hell sake whereever u guys wanna go , re-read posts without being bias.
She has just posted some vrat recipes----follow karni hai toh karo---else pass folks .
Just out of some ego sake----u folks are replying -------

If I pen down my thoughts, does that mean it is my EGO satiation?? Since you also replied, does your EGO forced you to reply?? Use common sense please. In my first reply to this thread, i wrote a line saying that I am not writing anything aginst the recipe, but why depend on VRAT to taste such recipe!! Suggest a re-read to you without bias.


I am expecting -------lots of compliments on this post .
Do reply

Thanks in advance --meri expectations par khara utarne ke liye.

You also come as winner on our expectations front, that you dont anlyze the posts before you jump the gun and then write "no offence".

@janki ji------please u can also stop convincing them on same , its their life let them believe what believe in , u just follow ur faith , who cares about rest of the world .

Oh------I forgot my signature line-----
Sorry No offence folks , absolutely unintentional

Rekha/Smriti/Anonymous

Disagreeing to a thought is human nature. Janki believes in VAARs and VRATs, I dont. Its as simple as that. She has written lengthy paras about her strong belief, and if I am against those beliefs doesn't make me an egoist! Did you see somewhere that I am stopping her to go for fasts?? All I am objecting is to why to depend on such "days" to take any oath, resolution, recipe?? I know you will again jump the gun, but I suggest a re-read of my posts before you again type such posts without giving a second thought. And you are free to ignore this suggestion. as usual unintentional and no offences plz.