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amans
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With a warming earth what are the environmental consequences for India. Rising sea levels - mumbai, chennai, other coastal cities under water? With Himalayan glaciers already receding - major India rivers drying up?
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Yes, you are right major coastal cities are under water now. Nothing left there. All river got dried up and undergroud water level went thousand feet below, so there is no water for drinking purpose forget about irrgation.
Most of the Indian are dead because of Hunger and thirst. Rest are dead because of the riots happened to acquire the remaining soures of water and food. While others committed suicide due the harrasment by the corruption, population blast, widespread cheating in education system, black money in swish banks, kashmir problems and due to all the problems of a typical third world country.
Only a few species are still alive here in India and i would like to request you please don't kill them by asking a question everyday. Either spare them or kill them instantly by shooting all the question at once.
Most of the Indian are dead because of Hunger and thirst. Rest are dead because of the riots happened to acquire the remaining soures of water and food. While others committed suicide due the harrasment by the corruption, population blast, widespread cheating in education system, black money in swish banks, kashmir problems and due to all the problems of a typical third world country.
Only a few species are still alive here in India and i would like to request you please don't kill them by asking a question everyday. Either spare them or kill them instantly by shooting all the question at once.
Hooda bhai,,,,,Swimming training for coastal cities should be made mandatory and every person should buy a boat and shoudl be trained in sailing
. People leaving in planes should be trained to remain with out water for many days like a Camel does in desert to counter the problem of water shortage.
Aisa karne se ham in khatron se bach sakte hain:rock
. People leaving in planes should be trained to remain with out water for many days like a Camel does in desert to counter the problem of water shortage.Aisa karne se ham in khatron se bach sakte hain:rock
rakeshsehrawat
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Can you please specify how many meteres water level had been raised?
Water level is increasing in India only so we can move to other countries like Netherlands which is below sea level .
This problem of global warming is done by India only.You can ask Obama to invade India so that this problem can be eliminated permanently.
brahmtewatia
Active member
aman, you have been yammering a lot in so many threads of yours about the prevailing conditions in India… slums, poverty, bad roads, beggers, child marriage nd bla bla bla.
now again, you came up with another thread on global warming… mentioning rising sea levels in mumbai, chennai, other coastal cities under water, himalayan glaciers receding nd major indian rivers drying up. i wonder as to why, every time you put India under perspective. why did’nt you mentioned as to who is the biggest culprit of these co2 emissions causing this global warming. i guess you must be having fair enough idea tht its none other then USA… though china threatens to become the world’s biggest emitter of greenhouse gases vry soon, but that too partly because it manufactures products to satiate your bulbous (american) appetite and consumption demands.
why yr federal govt. washed its hands of the issue by consistently refusing to ratify the kyoto protocol to the UN framework convention on climate change... nd now why are you trying to pass the buck by putting blame on other countries nd also misguiding on the real factors causing these greenhouse emissions.
have you done anything to bring this to the attn. of yr senator/obama. well, if you haven’t done it, it’s never too late, give it a head-start now… i’m pretty sure that everyone at JL will appreciate yr noble gesture.
skadian123
Banned
Very relevant and contemporary
Well I would like to differ with most of fellow Jatlanders on this particular thread. What Aman has written about is very much relevant to us all and has direct bearing on you and me.
Whether we like it or not, our day-to-day activities contribute to climate change including global warming. All this has led to the melting of glaciers, drying of rivers or changing course with little or no water available for irrigation purposes, rising of sea level with very direct and conspicuous consequences on coastal habitations/cities/towns.
Raising questions on important issues is certainly not a waste of time because they are the first step towards solving a problem by first of all realising that a problem does exist. Though Aman like me and you cannot do much individually to make an apparent impact on the environmental problem, we all can do our little bits to take care of the situation.
Steps could include planting trees (Just 2 trees in a duration of every 6 months against nothing at present), raising your voice in whatever capacity on social issues like the exploitation of the Yamuna riverbed for construction purposes, cutting of trees by DDA for commonwealth games, spreading environmental education and awareness especially among the children in your family/neighbourhood, etc. These are just a few initiatives which would not demand much of your time and efforts - just a few minutes per week taken out from your weekly outings to the mall...
Well I would like to differ with most of fellow Jatlanders on this particular thread. What Aman has written about is very much relevant to us all and has direct bearing on you and me.
Whether we like it or not, our day-to-day activities contribute to climate change including global warming. All this has led to the melting of glaciers, drying of rivers or changing course with little or no water available for irrigation purposes, rising of sea level with very direct and conspicuous consequences on coastal habitations/cities/towns.
Raising questions on important issues is certainly not a waste of time because they are the first step towards solving a problem by first of all realising that a problem does exist. Though Aman like me and you cannot do much individually to make an apparent impact on the environmental problem, we all can do our little bits to take care of the situation.
Steps could include planting trees (Just 2 trees in a duration of every 6 months against nothing at present), raising your voice in whatever capacity on social issues like the exploitation of the Yamuna riverbed for construction purposes, cutting of trees by DDA for commonwealth games, spreading environmental education and awareness especially among the children in your family/neighbourhood, etc. These are just a few initiatives which would not demand much of your time and efforts - just a few minutes per week taken out from your weekly outings to the mall...
hemanthooda
New member
Spot On Sunil bhai..... it is a very serious issue .......
can see visible changes around us , see yamuna ..it looks like a drain...
It is our responsibility to preserve nature & be environment friendly for the sake of our life & future generations....
On my part i have already started using CFL in my house.... more inputs welcomed to contribute to the noble cause...
regards
Hemant Hooda
can see visible changes around us , see yamuna ..it looks like a drain...
It is our responsibility to preserve nature & be environment friendly for the sake of our life & future generations....
On my part i have already started using CFL in my house.... more inputs welcomed to contribute to the noble cause...
regards
Hemant Hooda
sunitahooda
New member
I have almost stopped using "Poly bags" if i've loads that i cant carry in hands then take the poly bag but keep them clean/folded and return those to the shopkeeper.
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anilsinghd
Guest
Sunil appreciate your views , but I would like to request Aman to please conclude on one topic first , before starting another one!
Do you agree ?
Let's solve one problem at a time !
skadian123
Banned
Anil, thanks for your feedback. In fact we all need to encourage when somebody brings up issues which affect us all as citizens, members of a community, group etc.
As far as number of threads running at the same time is concerned, I personally believe that it is the prerogative of the writer/author. Having said that, yes I would concur with you on the point that a discussion/thread can be taken to its logical conclusion more effectively in case there are not too many threads demanding members' attention at the same time.
Finally, would like to suggest/advise Aman not to suppress the thoughts/ideas that come to his mind on various important/urgent issues and instead keep putting them forward for a healthy and constructive discussion finally leading to their logical conclusion.
As far as number of threads running at the same time is concerned, I personally believe that it is the prerogative of the writer/author. Having said that, yes I would concur with you on the point that a discussion/thread can be taken to its logical conclusion more effectively in case there are not too many threads demanding members' attention at the same time.
Finally, would like to suggest/advise Aman not to suppress the thoughts/ideas that come to his mind on various important/urgent issues and instead keep putting them forward for a healthy and constructive discussion finally leading to their logical conclusion.
vikrantsiwag
New member
I think this global warming issue is being blown out of proportion. Same issues were raised by Michael Crichton in his novel "State of fear" which is a fiction but all the data(about climate change and global warming) used is true and comes from recognized institutions of the stature of NASA. Which tells that earth has not become alarmingly warm over past century as claimed by most organizations and governments.
He blasts all this hoopla created around global warming as a propaganda by governments and multi Million dollar NGO's to create panic amongst people so that they keep fetching huge amounts of public money. He shows through data analysis(which is true) that over the past century there is not a drastic change in the climate as claimed and shows all the manipulations that are done to create a "STATE OF FEAR".
He blasts all this hoopla created around global warming as a propaganda by governments and multi Million dollar NGO's to create panic amongst people so that they keep fetching huge amounts of public money. He shows through data analysis(which is true) that over the past century there is not a drastic change in the climate as claimed and shows all the manipulations that are done to create a "STATE OF FEAR".
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anilsinghd
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Thank you Sunil. It was just a kind suggestion and also in the light that I did post a big enough reply in Aman's last thread : India shining !
Then again his thread Widespread cheating in Indian education system attracted replies and is still unconcluded.
It is responsibility of the author to stimulate discussions and I doubt the same when one has several threads running at the same time( concurrently if i can use that word ! ) !
And i am not only a preacher , you might appreciate that I do take care to s um up my threads and conclude them with a due summary!
skadian123
Banned
Well Vikrant,
First of all, I appreciate your effort in putting things in perspective. You have been forthright and have not concealed the words alarmingly (warm) and drastic (change). These words are very subjective in the sense that what might sound alarming and drastic to one person might seem pretty normal to the other. However, without getting further into the subjectiveness of the matter, would like to discuss a few points below in light of the prevailing societal norms/acceptability as to what is acceptable/suitable and what is unacceptable/unsuitable climate.
I may be excused for not having read the book/novel by Michael Crichton. Earth is a live system which endeavours to keep itself in a state of equilibrium/balance/homeostasis (I hope we all have heard about the various element cycles like the carbon cycle wherein carbon from the air enters plants followed by animals and finally back to air). Our planet earth has evolved over millions of years to its present form. There have been changes both gradual and drastic over these past millions of years. However, what is striking to note is the fact that earth would have continued to evolve at its own pace but for the human activities/unsustainable interference starting with the industrial revolution. With the industrial revolution came up large scale industrialisation with industries of all types/class spewing noxious gases into our atmosphere which till that time was more or less in a state of equilibrium. The developed/industrialised/western nations showed to the developing nations a path or a role worth emulating with the result that countries like China, India, Brazil, etc, established the very industries which the west started realising to be behind environmental damage. The manufacturing technologies which became obsolete in the west were adopted by the laggard economies with the result that the developing nations overtook the developed world in terms of emmissions. The reason for their not cutting back on harmful emmissions is that even the west developed on the foundation of heavy and polluting industries and hence, why should the developing world be denied this opportunity when by using it, it can get the 'developed' tag.
After the background, now let's see the effects of the man-made climate change. Percentage of Nitrogen, Oxygen, and Carbon Dioxide have changed at a faster pace during the last century.There is big ozone whole over the Antartic and countries like Australia and New Zealand leading to UV radiation reaching earth and consequent skin diseases. Acid rains have been reported in countries far off from where the pollution responsible for the acid rain emanated. Glaciers have melted leading to flooding of the coastal cities/submerging of the coastal areas. Oil spills have resulted not only in environmental damage but also killed various marine life forms. The nuclear disaster in Chernobyl cannot be easily forgotton, the very same Chernobyl where till today children are born with deformities because of exposure to radioactive elements leaked decades ago. Europe once known for its pleasant weather has been reporting over the past few years heat related deaths in summers.
To look at effects on India and neighbouring countries besides the ones mentioned above, there was this case in China where the entire river got polluted with a harmful poisonous chemical due to leakage from a factory on its banks. A state of red alert was sounded in towns/cities downstream using this river's water to avoid using its water. Even in India the state of our major rivers is all too evident for all to see. As mentioned by Aman in his post above, we have turned our rivers like Yamuna into 'Ganda nallahs' or drains. The ground water is even contaminated with harmful chemicals and micro-organisms. There was this news story in one of the dailies a few years back according to which one beverage bottling plant in Ghaziabad was dumping its effluents into the ground water. The contamination resulted in the ground water in its vicinity becoming unfit for consumption. Not only that it was being scientifically assumed that the contaminated water was drifting underground towards Delhi. Major Indian towns/cities are covered with smog almost throughout the year as shown by satellite images. DDT, pesticides and other chemicals used indiscrimately by the farmers in Punjab have been traced in the blood of the local inhabitants. The temperatures are rising year on year basis. Winters have actually shrunk to less than 2-3 months. Monsoons on which a large chunk of Indian agriculture depends have been erratic because of climate change. The list of the ill-effects are endless and would take the space of an entire Jatland if enumerated and described completely.
It has been proven on more occasions than one in the past that MNCs bribe the media and part of the scientific community to hide/conceal the ill effects of their industrial activities. Hence, it is not the NGOs that have their way, rather it's the MNCs that have their say imposed through advertising campaigns and government lobbying.
Environmental damage affects you and me as much as it affects the environmentalists who raise the issues. The least we can do to help safeguard our climate is to not belittle the efforts of environmentalists and their NGOs
Our EARTH is a living system. Let's not kill it.....
First of all, I appreciate your effort in putting things in perspective. You have been forthright and have not concealed the words alarmingly (warm) and drastic (change). These words are very subjective in the sense that what might sound alarming and drastic to one person might seem pretty normal to the other. However, without getting further into the subjectiveness of the matter, would like to discuss a few points below in light of the prevailing societal norms/acceptability as to what is acceptable/suitable and what is unacceptable/unsuitable climate.
I may be excused for not having read the book/novel by Michael Crichton. Earth is a live system which endeavours to keep itself in a state of equilibrium/balance/homeostasis (I hope we all have heard about the various element cycles like the carbon cycle wherein carbon from the air enters plants followed by animals and finally back to air). Our planet earth has evolved over millions of years to its present form. There have been changes both gradual and drastic over these past millions of years. However, what is striking to note is the fact that earth would have continued to evolve at its own pace but for the human activities/unsustainable interference starting with the industrial revolution. With the industrial revolution came up large scale industrialisation with industries of all types/class spewing noxious gases into our atmosphere which till that time was more or less in a state of equilibrium. The developed/industrialised/western nations showed to the developing nations a path or a role worth emulating with the result that countries like China, India, Brazil, etc, established the very industries which the west started realising to be behind environmental damage. The manufacturing technologies which became obsolete in the west were adopted by the laggard economies with the result that the developing nations overtook the developed world in terms of emmissions. The reason for their not cutting back on harmful emmissions is that even the west developed on the foundation of heavy and polluting industries and hence, why should the developing world be denied this opportunity when by using it, it can get the 'developed' tag.
After the background, now let's see the effects of the man-made climate change. Percentage of Nitrogen, Oxygen, and Carbon Dioxide have changed at a faster pace during the last century.There is big ozone whole over the Antartic and countries like Australia and New Zealand leading to UV radiation reaching earth and consequent skin diseases. Acid rains have been reported in countries far off from where the pollution responsible for the acid rain emanated. Glaciers have melted leading to flooding of the coastal cities/submerging of the coastal areas. Oil spills have resulted not only in environmental damage but also killed various marine life forms. The nuclear disaster in Chernobyl cannot be easily forgotton, the very same Chernobyl where till today children are born with deformities because of exposure to radioactive elements leaked decades ago. Europe once known for its pleasant weather has been reporting over the past few years heat related deaths in summers.
To look at effects on India and neighbouring countries besides the ones mentioned above, there was this case in China where the entire river got polluted with a harmful poisonous chemical due to leakage from a factory on its banks. A state of red alert was sounded in towns/cities downstream using this river's water to avoid using its water. Even in India the state of our major rivers is all too evident for all to see. As mentioned by Aman in his post above, we have turned our rivers like Yamuna into 'Ganda nallahs' or drains. The ground water is even contaminated with harmful chemicals and micro-organisms. There was this news story in one of the dailies a few years back according to which one beverage bottling plant in Ghaziabad was dumping its effluents into the ground water. The contamination resulted in the ground water in its vicinity becoming unfit for consumption. Not only that it was being scientifically assumed that the contaminated water was drifting underground towards Delhi. Major Indian towns/cities are covered with smog almost throughout the year as shown by satellite images. DDT, pesticides and other chemicals used indiscrimately by the farmers in Punjab have been traced in the blood of the local inhabitants. The temperatures are rising year on year basis. Winters have actually shrunk to less than 2-3 months. Monsoons on which a large chunk of Indian agriculture depends have been erratic because of climate change. The list of the ill-effects are endless and would take the space of an entire Jatland if enumerated and described completely.
It has been proven on more occasions than one in the past that MNCs bribe the media and part of the scientific community to hide/conceal the ill effects of their industrial activities. Hence, it is not the NGOs that have their way, rather it's the MNCs that have their say imposed through advertising campaigns and government lobbying.
Environmental damage affects you and me as much as it affects the environmentalists who raise the issues. The least we can do to help safeguard our climate is to not belittle the efforts of environmentalists and their NGOs
Our EARTH is a living system. Let's not kill it.....
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brahmtewatia
Active member
Global Warming - Lets look at the bigger picture
just giving a push start to a thread citing examples of various problem that mankind is facing doesn't serve any purpose... it would have been appreciated, if the author would have mentioned what is happening globally rather then targeting india on each nd every occasion.
sunil, your suggestions are worth appreciating... indeed the problem is alarming, no doubt, but what measures are being taken by the biggest perpetrators responsible towards this global warming. yours, hemant's nd sunita's suggestion of everybody contributing towards the cause are appreciable. we all, are educated people here nd i'm very sure that everybody is doing it's bit, on his/her part to ensure a better earth. using, CFL lights, planting million trees or everybody using the same eco-friendly basket for groceries won't serve that big a purpose, compared to the fact that the two biggest culprits (USA & china) just co-operate by 1%. that 1% co-operation would have bigger impact than planting a million trees.
US, the world's biggest economy, consumes around a quarter of global energy and causes nearly 30 per cent of worldwide greenhouse gas emissions... nd on top of that, we find the biggest economy coming up with different studies/theories citing other reasons for global warming to cloud the scientific understanding of climate change and delay action on the issue by raising doubts about even the most indisputable scientific evidences. not only that, even funding an array of front organizations to create the appearance of a broad platform for a tight-knit group of vocal climate change contrarians who misrepresent peer-reviewed scientific findings. some other american corporations attempt to cover up their horrible track records on the environment by making only the paltriest efforts to help... you can find numerous examples, but let me quote you one... some time back, wal-mart was pushing to sell 100 million CFL bulbs nd american media going all applauds... thereby conniving from the fact that more than half the electricity in the u.s comes from coal-burning plants.
nd when the after-effects of tampering mother nature are unleashed, look how ill-prepared we found america to combat major natural calamities... hurricane katrina - a good example.
while small lit'l efforts of ours are appreciable, but these can provide some reprieve to the problem of global warming. however, we must not forget tht the largest contributors to the problem are not individuals, but these corporations nd developed economies. under capitalism, they are allowed to run rampant, trampling over any rights of workers, including environmental protection, unless a struggle forces them back... but the big QUESTION tht comes time and again is "who is going to bell the cat"?... nd look here at the recent g-20 summit. to the best of my knowledge, not even a word was raised on this issue (correct me, if i'm wrong) cos world-wide recession was the priority... but again, who is responsibel for all this mess... the one nd only UNITED STATES OF AMERICA !!!
i'm not undermining the small little efforts/suggestions suggested by you, nd other worthy members. at the same time, lets have a wider perspective, lets check the root cause of problem... and then stand tall to the full force of your lungs to say what you really want. the struggle to save the planet/mother nature from global warming is therefore yet another reason why capitalism must be replaced with a system tht places people on the 1st priority nd the environment that sustains them rather than over profits.
I would like to request Aman to please conclude on one topic first , before starting another one!
Do you agree ?
Let's solve one problem at a time !
just giving a push start to a thread citing examples of various problem that mankind is facing doesn't serve any purpose... it would have been appreciated, if the author would have mentioned what is happening globally rather then targeting india on each nd every occasion.
sunil, your suggestions are worth appreciating... indeed the problem is alarming, no doubt, but what measures are being taken by the biggest perpetrators responsible towards this global warming. yours, hemant's nd sunita's suggestion of everybody contributing towards the cause are appreciable. we all, are educated people here nd i'm very sure that everybody is doing it's bit, on his/her part to ensure a better earth. using, CFL lights, planting million trees or everybody using the same eco-friendly basket for groceries won't serve that big a purpose, compared to the fact that the two biggest culprits (USA & china) just co-operate by 1%. that 1% co-operation would have bigger impact than planting a million trees.
US, the world's biggest economy, consumes around a quarter of global energy and causes nearly 30 per cent of worldwide greenhouse gas emissions... nd on top of that, we find the biggest economy coming up with different studies/theories citing other reasons for global warming to cloud the scientific understanding of climate change and delay action on the issue by raising doubts about even the most indisputable scientific evidences. not only that, even funding an array of front organizations to create the appearance of a broad platform for a tight-knit group of vocal climate change contrarians who misrepresent peer-reviewed scientific findings. some other american corporations attempt to cover up their horrible track records on the environment by making only the paltriest efforts to help... you can find numerous examples, but let me quote you one... some time back, wal-mart was pushing to sell 100 million CFL bulbs nd american media going all applauds... thereby conniving from the fact that more than half the electricity in the u.s comes from coal-burning plants.
nd when the after-effects of tampering mother nature are unleashed, look how ill-prepared we found america to combat major natural calamities... hurricane katrina - a good example.
while small lit'l efforts of ours are appreciable, but these can provide some reprieve to the problem of global warming. however, we must not forget tht the largest contributors to the problem are not individuals, but these corporations nd developed economies. under capitalism, they are allowed to run rampant, trampling over any rights of workers, including environmental protection, unless a struggle forces them back... but the big QUESTION tht comes time and again is "who is going to bell the cat"?... nd look here at the recent g-20 summit. to the best of my knowledge, not even a word was raised on this issue (correct me, if i'm wrong) cos world-wide recession was the priority... but again, who is responsibel for all this mess... the one nd only UNITED STATES OF AMERICA !!!
i'm not undermining the small little efforts/suggestions suggested by you, nd other worthy members. at the same time, lets have a wider perspective, lets check the root cause of problem... and then stand tall to the full force of your lungs to say what you really want. the struggle to save the planet/mother nature from global warming is therefore yet another reason why capitalism must be replaced with a system tht places people on the 1st priority nd the environment that sustains them rather than over profits.
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brahmtewatia
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posted by mistake... still drafting further...
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brahmtewatia
Active member
the whole world must take action to confront climate change, but developed countries have a "historical responsibility" to do much more because their unrestrained emissions in the past century are responsible for global warming.
these developed economies, usa in particular, caused the problem of climate change in the first place... nd now, i dont think they have any right to figure it out to the current developing economies of india, brazil nd china. china, on its part, as we all know was a victim because its repressive regime and maoist politics tht hindered economic growth while other economies were streaking ahead of it... having said so, we must not forget tht china did signed up to the kyoto protocol on climate change, but, as a developing country, it does not have a cap on its emissions... nd so is true for india nd brazil.
keeping all these into consideration, i guess the bigger onus still lies with usa to come up and be responsible to show the way to the rest of the world... i wonder whether any country wud now trust usa, knowing the fact tht usa by itself is the major creator of worldwide problems... recession, iran, iraq... nd now north korea... lets hope we are not in another mess.
north korea - any takers for starting a thread?
well i dont mind starting a thread on north korea... wud appreciate fellow members if they can suggest as to how its recent ballistic missile test is going to affect india... aman, any suggestions ?
these developed economies, usa in particular, caused the problem of climate change in the first place... nd now, i dont think they have any right to figure it out to the current developing economies of india, brazil nd china. china, on its part, as we all know was a victim because its repressive regime and maoist politics tht hindered economic growth while other economies were streaking ahead of it... having said so, we must not forget tht china did signed up to the kyoto protocol on climate change, but, as a developing country, it does not have a cap on its emissions... nd so is true for india nd brazil.
keeping all these into consideration, i guess the bigger onus still lies with usa to come up and be responsible to show the way to the rest of the world... i wonder whether any country wud now trust usa, knowing the fact tht usa by itself is the major creator of worldwide problems... recession, iran, iraq... nd now north korea... lets hope we are not in another mess.
north korea - any takers for starting a thread?
well i dont mind starting a thread on north korea... wud appreciate fellow members if they can suggest as to how its recent ballistic missile test is going to affect india... aman, any suggestions ? jitendershooda
New member
Query
Some members have mentioned use of CFL.
I have heard that CFLs contain small amount of mercury which is very harmful when disposed openly. In India we dont have any disposal mechanism even for old mobile batteries etc. which are daily use products. So in this scenerio what do you feel are the CFLs safe to use?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7431198
One more good effort is the new certification of ISO 14000 for organisations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_14000
Some members have mentioned use of CFL.
I have heard that CFLs contain small amount of mercury which is very harmful when disposed openly. In India we dont have any disposal mechanism even for old mobile batteries etc. which are daily use products. So in this scenerio what do you feel are the CFLs safe to use?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7431198
One more good effort is the new certification of ISO 14000 for organisations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_14000
rakeshsehrawat
New member
ISO certification aaj koye do lathe machine tek rehya ho usne bhi mil ja hai.
Ek company hai jisme acid ka kaam hota hai. Acid ke liye ISO ke rules hain ki acid ko chemicals se treat kar ke uski acidity khatam kar do fir use pack kar ke authorised desposer ke pass de ke aao. Lekin acid ko sewer mein baha diya jata hai aur ye chote business wale hi nahi badi badi companies bhi karti hain.
Humare mosquito repellants aur perfumes mein CFCL(chloro floro carbons) hain jo ki ozone ko khatam karte hain.
Yamuna ke halat samne hain.
Nehro ka paani peene layak nahi. Gaon mein sewage ki vyawastha nahi hai. Gose jalane se bahut jyada matra mein dhuwa uthta hai LPG available sehro mein nahi ho paa rahi gaon ki to baat dur hai.
Pehla kaam hai pet ki agni ko shant karna tabhi aadmi atmosphere ki soch sakta hai. Basic jaroorto ke liye subah se sham ki ladai khatam nahi hoti enviornment ki kaun soche?
skadian123
Banned
Jitender,
You have brought up a very good example of the recycling of the CFL and cellphone batteries. In quite a few western countries, the companies manufacturing these and other items using harmful components/raw material are bound as per their local environmental regulations to take back the used items/articles. To incentivise the consumers to return the used items, they are given discount on fresh purchases when they return the used items. Thus the harmful used products are not disposed of irresponsibly and instead recycled in a scientific manner.
Despite having a number of environment and consumer protection acts in place, we lack the enforcement agency infrastructure to enforce these acts and even to a great extent the will to enforce the acts.
Indian NGOs like the Centre for Science and Environment have been doing a good job as environmental watchdogs in unearthing coverups by the government and the business community. It's time we make the government accountable for environmental issues as well and the political parties are forced to elucidate their policies/vision on environment which so far has been ignored conveniently.
Brahm, Thanks for being appreciative of the small steps being taken by common people/individuals in furthering the cause of environment protection. These are no doubt small steps but if all these small steps work in unison, coordination and in a calliberated fashion, they can play a great role in changing the ground reality. These steps by majority of us can force the government to sit up and take notice of the fact that environmental issues as well are close to the hearts of the electorate. As far as the US intransigence over emmissions and accountability is concerned, it is already cornered on this issue and a day may come when due to the concerted efforts of majority of the other governments it may be forced to come to the negotiating table.
You have brought up a very good example of the recycling of the CFL and cellphone batteries. In quite a few western countries, the companies manufacturing these and other items using harmful components/raw material are bound as per their local environmental regulations to take back the used items/articles. To incentivise the consumers to return the used items, they are given discount on fresh purchases when they return the used items. Thus the harmful used products are not disposed of irresponsibly and instead recycled in a scientific manner.
Despite having a number of environment and consumer protection acts in place, we lack the enforcement agency infrastructure to enforce these acts and even to a great extent the will to enforce the acts.
Indian NGOs like the Centre for Science and Environment have been doing a good job as environmental watchdogs in unearthing coverups by the government and the business community. It's time we make the government accountable for environmental issues as well and the political parties are forced to elucidate their policies/vision on environment which so far has been ignored conveniently.
Brahm, Thanks for being appreciative of the small steps being taken by common people/individuals in furthering the cause of environment protection. These are no doubt small steps but if all these small steps work in unison, coordination and in a calliberated fashion, they can play a great role in changing the ground reality. These steps by majority of us can force the government to sit up and take notice of the fact that environmental issues as well are close to the hearts of the electorate. As far as the US intransigence over emmissions and accountability is concerned, it is already cornered on this issue and a day may come when due to the concerted efforts of majority of the other governments it may be forced to come to the negotiating table.
brahmtewatia
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sunil, no doubt the day is not far when usa has to come at the negotiating table, until that happens dont you think that enough harm has already been done... we dont have much time and have to act fast.
going back to my point of contention... lets assume tht america is on the negotiating table (wch is easier said, then done). now how are we going to have a chk on the newer emerging economies. as stated earlier in my previous post... china, india nd brazil are developing economies nd does not have a cap on its emissions nd they have every right to safeguard their economies. sadly, but true as that comes at the cost of green-house emissions. pls have a look at some of the observations tht have been made w.r.t. china, but can hold true for other developing economies as well...
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