What is the major problem in INDIA?

[nishantrathi82]

Which one of below is the major problem in INDIA and Why?

1) Police
2) Politicians
3) Education
4) Population
5) General Public

 

[d_dhankhar]

I guess you meant Population as your number 4......

According to me Population and education.. if we overcome these two issues i don't think so we need this kind of thread anymore

Which one of below is the major problem in INDIA and Why?

1) Police
2) Politicians
3) Education
4) Polulation
5) General Public

 

[nishantrathi82]

I guess you meant Population as your number 4......

According to me Population and education.. if we overcome these two issues i don't think so we need this kind of thread anymore

Sorry my mistake i made the correction hmmm according to me Population is the major one, if we can overcome this we can make people educated as they will be less in numbers.

 

[vijay]

hmmm according to me Population is the major one, if we can overcome this we can make people educated as they will be less in numbers.

I think that Education can make people understand the benefits of population control and rest of the issues.

 

[mukeshkumar007]

I think the major problem in India is Public itself.

 

[prashanthooda]

The biggest problem is EDUCATION. There is no quality education available in the country (Except a few major institutions). There are a lot of issues in mind, I'll discuss them some other time.

 

[sandeep5]

Which one of below is the major problem in INDIA and Why?

1) Police
2) Politicians
3) Education
4) Population
5) General Public

Bhai Nishant, 5 problem to likh di par jo main problem (CORRUPTION) hai wo to aapne isme likhi hi nahi.

phir bhi agar inme se hi choose karna hai to politicians sabse badi problem hai, agar ye theek ho jaaye to saari problem apne aap door ho jayegi.

 

[sunillathwal]

to me its Education..
and most of other problems: by product( more or less) of lack (may be inefficiency) of 'it'!!!

 

[brahmtewatia]

if we hav gud politicians, for sure they will lay 1st nd foremost emphasis on education... once we get education, we can find cure for over-population. an educated democracy can take gud care of our system nd administration nd if tht happens, every thing will fall in place by itself. so in my opinion its the politicians who are responsible for all this rot.

very simply our politicians dont want masses to get educated... dont go far, just have a luk at the education scenerio within delhi. kursi pe baith ke masterji aaj bhi beedi phoonkte hein.

 

[rajivsp]

dont go far, just have a luk at the education scenerio within delhi. kursi pe baith ke masterji aaj bhi beedi phoonkte hein.

Then who is responsible for that?
MasterJi or Politicians?

Politicians just a subset of General Public. If Public is good Politicians are good! If Public is bad Politicians are bad!

Education - Indians are doing very well after studying in India. I think Indian education system is the best in the world. As far as education for all - We are very productive in producing children - Is it possible to educate everybody?

 

[sunillathwal]

Education - Indians are doing very well after studying in India. I think Indian education system is the best in the world.

Apparently not!! Higher education scenario is so not good..
still we have the largest no of unemployed degree holders.
AND its on rise!!!

As far as education for all - We are very productive in producing children - Is it possible to educate everybody?

i'll say, If we are educated... we will produce less children!!!

Is it just a coincidence that states with higher illiteracy rate are over populated?? Take any example... if family is 'educated' no of children is less.. so they get better education. It may appear as a circular system.. but i still feel education is the root cause here.
A Doctor or engineer couple have at most two kids... sadak pe pathar todte majdoor ke 6-8!!
The lower spectrum (in terms of economy) of society don't care about the good education or upbringing of their kids.. for them its just the more hand to work, to earn money... Its like a zero investment business for them!!

 

[rajivsp]

If we will be educated we will control population.....
If we have less population we will be educated easily......

A vicious circle same like before liberalization we had vicious circle of economy
and FDI helped us to come out from that

-- >No investment ---> No profit ---> No savining-->
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[raj2rif]

Interesting Discussion

If we will be educated we will control population.....
If we have less population we will be educated easily......

A vicious circle same like before liberalization we had vicious circle of economy
and FDI helped us to come out from that

-- >No investment ---> No profit ---> No savining-->
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Dear Members,

I think Rajeev Ji has given some valid points.

In my opinion, blaming politicians for every thing is not right. It is the public, like all of us that elects these politicians to the office they hold. Why they get elected is because of lack of education among the voters about the issues, and their skills to make that vital decision. More often than not we vote for a politician based on his caste or caste of the party chief, or if he had helped a person at some time legally or illegally. So, we all end up voting for our personal gains or thinking that it will get us personal gains.

What we forget is, that the politicians is a caste/religion by itself and is not related to any one of us. The only thing that drives them is their personal interests and vote banks.

Having said that, I think it is the population that is the issue here. We have quantity, we need to make it quality and that can be done by educating people (not by giving them degrees and diplomas) in a manner that they are able to analyze the issues. Don't we see many degree holders who behave as if they have no education. There are many in our villages who don't have degrees but have excellent analytical mind.

It is really very difficult to point out one single thing as most of them are related. In my opinion if we can control the population (which can be done by a legal ordinance, like had been done in China) and enforce it for let us say couple of decades, we will come down to managable levels. We must ensure then that we do provide all the basic facilities to these people to make them better citizens. It is going to be a long, tiresome process, but we can do it.

 

[brahmtewatia]

It is really very difficult to point out one single thing as most of them are related. In my opinion if we can control the population (which can be done by a legal ordinance, like had been done in China) and enforce it for let us say couple of decades, we will come down to managable levels. We must ensure then that we do provide all the basic facilities to these people to make them better citizens. It is going to be a long, tiresome process, but we can do it.

col sir,

correct me if i'm wrong... china implemented the policy that farmers/uneducated persons can have maximum two children, where as an educated person cannot have more then one child. this policy, if i'm not wrong was implemented in early seventies... the results are now for everyone to see. they did it successfully because of the type of govt they have (communists) which allows limited liberties for the populace.

here, our politicians don't want the masses to get educated. if they do, then how these parasites are going to survive. who and how this ordinance is going to pass if there is no willingness on part of our politicians. there doesn't seems to be any will at all. as such and rightly pointed out by rajeev ji above, we find ourselves going round and round in a circular motion in the same vicious circle.

it reminds me of a thread started by neelam chaudhary abt... "kya akela chana bhaad phod sakta hai?"

or shall we wait until the birth of that "akela chana" that can "phod the bhaad" ?

 

[sjakhars]

Agree!

I agree with Mr. Brahm Tewatia. The question here not only the problem but also the solution, if we talk about the problem and not solution then there is no benefit. If you chose education and/or population and/or police or and/or whatever, who is going to solve that, the policy makers. If the policy makers, here politicians, are willing to/determined/honest, they can solve all the problems as the population is controlled in China. The one reason I admire Indira Gandhi and/or Sanjay Gandhi is, they tried to do the same in India during emergency.

As Mr. Tewatia said only politicians can be the "chana' to "phod the bhaad."

May be my weird idea/thoughts.

col sir,

correct me if i'm wrong... china implemented the policy that farmers/uneducated persons can have maximum two children, where as an educated person cannot have more then one child. this policy, if i'm not wrong was implemented in early seventies... the results are now for everyone to see. they did it successfully because of the type of govt they have (communists) which allows limited liberties for the populace.

here, our politicians don't want the masses to get educated. if they do, then how these parasites are going to survive. who and how this ordinance is going to pass if there is no willingness on part of our politicians. there doesn't seems to be any will at all. as such and rightly pointed out by rajeev ji above, we find ourselves going round and round in a circular motion in the same vicious circle.

it reminds me of a thread started by neelam chaudhary abt... "kya akela chana bhaad phod sakta hai?"

or shall we wait until the birth of that "akela chana" that can "phod the bhaad" ?

 

[rajivsp]

I agree with Mr. Brahm Tewatia. The question here not only the problem but also the solution, if we talk about the problem and not solution then there is no benefit.

Agreed, we must talk about solution also. But before that we must understand what is our major problems, then it will be easier to find a solution for that.

Just complaining politician for everything is not the solution, and how long we will wait for that AKELA CHANA (politician or what ever), JO BHAD PHODEGA. Its already 61 years passed when we got independence.


For me population is the biggest problem and solution for that - Entrepreneurship (EDP) not education that may create another big problem unemployment.

Entrepreneurship is the backbone of any economically strong country. Even in our good days it was the base of Indian economy.

 

[sumitsehrawat]

India-China introduction I

There is no joke of the Laloo Prasad Yadav variety. (Japanese team to Laloo: “Give us Bihar and we will make it Japan in 10 years.” Laloo to Japanese team: “Give me Japan and I will make it into Bihar in 1 day.”)

Indian delegations visit China. Old men remember stories from their childhood of a million starving peasants. They now see the new skyscrapers and flyovers of Shanghai. They come back with one refrain: “China is 20 years ahead of us. We will never be able to catch up.”

The Chinese see a different Mumbai. A flyover or a skyscraper is a creature of concrete and steel. It is physical infrastructure, easily replicated. What is far more difficult to grow is the knowledge infrastructure, the sort created by TCS (e.g.) where many networked minds work on the same problem. It is supported by a financial infrastructure, a banking system that works despite its warts, and alternative means of finance. And supporting them is a newfound entrepreneurial infrastructure. Enterprise has always existed in India. But today, you have the freedom to fail. People will lend you money a second time, even if you have only a failure on your track record.

Check out Dharavi. It’s called “Asia’s largest slum”. The immediate image is of squalor and sloth, poverty and deprivation, crime and corruption. However, it is a very different place. Yes, it is congested; hygiene is not of the highest order. But Johnson & Johnson, which swears by “clean, orderly and safe working conditions” in its credo, has a sutures plant there, deep in the heart of Dharavi. The Professional Product unit has been around for more than 25 years; it even won an industrial safety awards sometime back. Dharavi is actually the entrepreneurship capital of Mumbai (http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/004503.html). It houses several hundred small-scale units, whose total turnover is estimated at more than $1 billion. There are more than 100 restaurants there, scores of jewellery shops. Several Rupee millionaires live there. Two banks were recently slugging it out over who would be the first to open a branch there. There are even travel agencies that organize “slum” tours for NRIs and foreigners (http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2007/06/19/realitys_new_spin_on_tourism/).

India has always handled its PR very badly. Immediately after Independence, it exhibited all the prickliness of a new nation. It had a history of famines, some of them provoked by the indifference of erstwhile British rulers. Its popular image was that of hungry hodes holding out begging bowls.

In the sixties and seventies, the only mention you would find of India in the western media was in the ads telling you not to waste food. “Eat your carrots. Think of millions starving in India.” Economists William and Paul Paddock wrote in Famine 1975 (http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/population/pc0020.html) that all food aid to India should be stopped and the country should be allowed to starve to death. The food could be better utilized elsewhere, in places that had a future.

The socialist Indian government of the day didn’t help matters either. Full of their own importance, they withdrew into a cocoon and subjected the country to all sorts of misguided policies. India fell off the world radar. To take one example, the Indian Rupee was once the official currency of several West Asian states and Malaysia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_rupee). The Reserve Bank of India (RBI) was the official issuer of Burmese banknotes. It was only in the late 1960s that the last of these countries went in for their own currency. (Today, the Rupee is accepted tender in parts in parts of London and Birmingham, but that is another story). History wasn't always unkind to India. In the 16th century, India was the richest country in the world. The annual revenues of Aurangzeb were 10 times that of Louis XIV, who ruled France during the same period. India was world's most leading manufacturer. It is bootless to go into the reasons for its decline and fall. Rapacious invaders played their part. The lack of unity amongst Indians was perhaps a more important reason. And there were, of course, the repeated attempts to throttle India's industralization in the bud.

contd...

 

[sumitsehrawat]

Much of the story of the past 15 odd years – India’s post-liberalization saga – is too well known to merit repetition. What is worth describing here, however, is the sea change that has come over the country, something that is not fully recognized. We see greybeards in Parliament and baldheads on television and fail to recognize that this is a young country, full of enthusiasm of youth. Some 65% of India is below 35 and 50% below 25. One of the oldest civilizations in the world is one of the youngest in this century. In 2025 the median age for India will be 31, against 39 for the US and China and 44 for Russia and the UK. There is a huge demographics dividend waiting to be tapped there: As societies everywhere begin to grey, India will be providing workers to the world. China, meanwhile, has shot itself in the foot with its one-child policy. By 2025, 15% of the population will be above 65. It has to carry what has become known as the 4:2:1 yoke on its shoulders. (One working couple – the “2” – has to support four parents and one child; there is mo effective pension system in China) (http://dspace.iimk.ac.in/bitstream/2259/503/1/463-467+.pdf).

In a way, we Indians have already started making their mark as workers of the world. If its off-shoring, it must be India. Simultaneously, Indians are going abroad like never before. Some are being captured on campuses for bulge-bracket jobs in London and New York. An entirely different tribe is holidaying in the Swiss Alps or Tiananmen Square. India has money; Indians are on the move. And they are wanted everywhere.

What the government couldn’t do in four decades plus, the private sector has done overnight. India is suddenly a much smaller place; connectivity has compressed the country. It is also a smaller place because of the boom in civil aviation and the rapid growth of low-cost carriers. The ‘internet’ is making rapid strides too. The place where it will make a big difference is again in rural areas. Companies are setting up networks, ITC’s eChaupal and Hindustan UniLever’s iShakti amongst them. Reliance Industries expects to have 600 rural Internet kiosks across the country in the next 3 years as part of its retail rollout. “They will also enable farmers to take positions in the global market”. Young India has confidence too. It shows in thousands of small ways. The housing market is bound to grow because the number of loan seekers has increased: people are taking loans at 30 instead of 45-50 a decade ago or so. They know that they will be able to service them. If they lose their current jobs, so what? There are a dozen of other companies waiting to woo them with whopping sign-on bonuses. The hefty attrition rates may worry industry. But it is a sign of growing confidence amongst jobseekers. At the IIMs, they are turning down Rs1 crore plus salaries to set up shop on their own. The fear of failure, which hamstrung Indian entrepreneurship for so long, exists only in the mind of the old. More importantly, other IIM graduates are turning down foreign offers to work for Indian companies. This is where the action is; this is the new land of opportunity. The realization has already dawned on US thinkers that its hour in the sun is over. A decade from now, IBM and Microsoft could be run from Bangalore. They will have Indians amongst the largest shareholders. All this may seem like wildly rambling now.

In a country where politics always takes precedence over economics, progress is often squandered at the altar of power. But secular growth has a momentum of its own which flattens petty governments in its path. 11 years ago, current Finance Minister had produced a dream budget. It turned out to be a nightmare because growth expectations were not met. This year the same man has produced a nightmare budget. But it will turn out to be a dream budget because growth will be higher than he can reasonably allow for.

There are other issues. There is a fear of terrorism and uncertainty on our borders. There is Kashmir problem, which won’t go away. The solution is so blindingly obvious that it is also unthinkable. The artificial partitions imposed by the British (with the convenience of power-seeking Indian politicians of all hues) will go. When the subcontinent doesn’t worry about borders any more, Kashmir will be one state. It will happen sooner than we think, once a generation of politicians and think-tanks, whose only reason for existence if continued enmity with China and Pakistan, are put to grass.

There are internal problems to conquer. But poverty and inequality in India are not as huge as is made out to be. One example: the politicians have been clamouring for adequate representation of the backwards in corporate India. Check out many of the factories; they are already there in numbers much larger than what the reservationists are demanding.

contd...

 

[sumitsehrawat]

The biggest problem, however, is the remarkable characteristic amongst Indians to deny success. We do it to ourselves to ward off the evil eye. We do it to others because we feel that everyone should jostle at the bottom of the barrel together.

Success is a measure of comparison. So India has to be measured against the other countries to see how far it will reach. The invasion to Iraq cost the US its moral ground. Once the most beloved country in the world, the US, is now the most hated. For a nation that thrives on immigrant talent, this could be a kiss of death. The challengers to India’s coming days of glory are the others in the BRIC – Brazil, Russia, India, China – roster. But Brazil and Russia have not been able to keep pace since the acronym was announced by Goldman Sachs a few years ago. China, of course, are ahead today. But India is stepping up the pace. The 2003 Goldman Sachs BRIC report projected China’s GDP in 2050 at $44.5 trillion. India was put as $27.8 trillion and the US at $35.17 trillion. The 2007 Goldman Sachs report says India’s GDP will surpass that of the US before 2050 (http://dspace.iimk.ac.in/bitstream/2259/503/1/463-467+.pdf).

The dynamic emerging economies led by India and China will continue to grow strongly. However, China face potential problems with its aging population and rising old age dependency ratio. Young India is waiting to take up the slack. But there could be a problem. Though decades of authoritarianism and repression, sub-servience has been hardwired in the Chinese brain. Pay a visit to any factory in China. The workers there are so dedicated. They will not lift their heads when a visitor passes. The highly productive, dedicated worker is the reason for their manufacturing success. In India, they would probably have used any visit as an excuse for a beedi break.

You can't coax creativity out of those who have been taught not to think. When the Chinese workers finally learn to look up, they will see that India has caught up with her.

More I'll post tomorrow...

 

[rajivsp]

More I'll post tomorrow...

kindly also post a short summary of the article.