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Respected members,

This is really getting out of hand. There is no Government of India notification giving/awarding the MVC to Brig Hoshiar Singh. Brig Hoshiar Singh's son, Brigadier Rajinder Rathi recently retired from the Army Medical Core. He is my Phuffa. He confirms that Brig Hoshiar Singh was NOT awarded the MVC. Please do not confuse issues, please do not mention awards that have not been awarded. Please do not take the names of other brave winners of PVC and claim that they were Jats.

What is wrong with us? Are we so weak that now we have to take to falsehood to show the strength, bravery and unique nature of our community.

We are what we are, we are special, but we are also a part of the bigger community of Indians.

And to repeat, Brigadier Hoshiar Singh certainly deserved at least the MVC and maybe even the PVC, but he WAS NOT awarded the MVC.

Rajiv Lather
 
Rajiv Ji,
nameste
Thanks for information on Brig. Hoshiyar Singh.
Very happy to u are so closely related to the family.
I am lucky, I met this Mahan Atma
It was year 1960. He was Col and Dy commandent of NDA, Kharagwasla.
I was in year nine student at Haryana Shakti H. Sec School Kanjhawla, Delhi. In those days this school was very famous in Outer Delhi/Haryana. Brig Shahib's native place Bahadurgarh/Sankhol is only few KM's from our school. He was invited to give a talk.
In his talk he encouraged us to join the NDA.
He said even among one thousand people, I find out and tell this boy has got training at NDA Khadagwasla.
These great people belonged to whole India and gave their life for mother land.
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Rajiv Lather (Feb 25, 2003 10:35 p.m.):
Respected members,

This is really getting out of hand. There is no Government of India notification giving/awarding the MVC to Brig Hoshiar Singh. Brig Hoshiar Singh's son, Brigadier Rajinder Rathi recently retired from the Army Medical Core. He is my Phuffa. He confirms that Brig Hoshiar Singh was NOT awarded the MVC. Please do not confuse issues, please do not mention awards that have not been awarded. Please do not take the names of other brave winners of PVC and claim that they were Jats.

What is wrong with everyone? Are we so weak that now we have to take to falsehood to show the strength, bravery and unique nature of our community.

We are what we are, we are special, but we are also a part of the bigger community of Indians.

And to repeat, Brigadier Hoshiar Singh certainly deserved at least the MVC and maybe even the PVC, but he WAS NOT awarded the MVC.

Rajiv Lather
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Respected Lamba ji,

Namaste. Mein aap se chhota hun, namaste karne ka mauka aap mujhe dijiye.

I have read up on Brigadier Sahab quite a lot, more so as we were related. My mother still keeps newspaper cuttings from the 1962 war especially those mentioning Brigadier Hoshiar Singh. He was a great soldier, a dashing officer. A smart handsome man. He laid down his life so that the men under his command could safely withdraw, while he himself refused evacuation through a helicopter. He died fighting where he had remained. He deserved the PVC, but he was made a scapegoat by the chaaploos generals of Nehru.

Rajiv
 
Dear Rajiv
I met Brig Hoshiar singh when i was in school- during RAJ RIF CENTRE- RE-union in1957. My Mamaji- Capt. Amirsingh was in his BN.
We have respect for all martyrs.
We are writing this as respect. - we all understand now the true story. thank you telling us the bitter truth.
We all here to help each other not to hurt.
JAIHIND
 
Dharampal Singh ji,

Jai Hind.

I am just trying to set the record straight.

One hopes that some day the 'Henderson Report' authored by Lt Gen Henderson Brooks is made public and the real heroes get their dues and the real culprits are exposed. All patriotic Indians should agitate to have this enquiry report out in the open. Only then we will be able to learn from our past mistakes and make sure that they are not repeated in the future.

Brigadier Hoshiar Singh will always continue to be our inspiration.

Rajiv Lather
 
Dear Rajiv
Thank you very much for putting record straight.
We all are with you to help in any way.
I am happy that some good result will come from this discussion.
Truth will come out- justice will be done- truth will win inthe last.
True martyrs will be respected for ever in free INDIA.
JAIHIND
Dharmpal Dudee
 
Rajiv Bhai,

Aap bilkul thik keh rahe hein. I have been to Sankhol several times and all the people told me the same version of the truth what you are telling here.

I think everybody in the neighborhood of Sankhol knows Brig. Hoshiyar Singh just like their family member.

Initially I thought we are discussing some other Brig. Hoshiyar Singh here.


Rajiv Lather (Feb 26, 2003 11:46 a.m.):

Jai Hind.

I am just trying to set the record straight.

One hopes that some day the 'Henderson Report' authored by Lt Gen Henderson Brooks is made public and the real heroes get their dues and the real culprits are exposed. All patriotic Indians should agitate to have this enquiry report out in the open. Only then we will be able to learn from our past mistakes and make sure that they are not repeated in the future.

Brigadier Hoshiar Singh will always continue to be our inspiration.

Rajiv Lather
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Can somebody (May be Rajiv bhai) put together one paragraph about Brig Hoshiyar singh, including the incidents of war 1962. Right now we have information in bits and pieces here and there. It will be good for people like me who knows the name of this great person, biut did not know till now the controversy and the un just done to this great jat soul. Information sharing will definatley help in bringing the issue to table again and may be we can bring it to our local politicians. MLA from Bahadurgadh is Mr Nafe Singh Rathi.
My villege (Ashodha) is very near and have seen Brig sahab's statue countless time, but did not know much, but just a name. thanks for sharing the info.
 
Ranvir Bhai,

I got in touch with Brigadier Rajinder Rathi (Retd), son of Brigadier Hoshiar Singh again today. I had the same idea that you have. I have requested him to send me all information that he has, right from Brigadier Sahab's birth to his ultimate sacrifice. He has also promised me some photographs. I am going to write up a full page biography of Brigadier Sahib, including the incident at Se La pass in some detail. Any person who has some information on Brig Hoshiar Singh may please mail it to me. Such help will be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Rajiv Lather
 
Ranvir & Rajiv Bhai
Good idea- let us do some thing about it jointly as a team work.
I know Nafe singh Rathi MLA & Capt Inder singh MP- both are very helpful.
Major Rajender singh & Sanik board Jhajhhar will be helpful.
We can get more information From RAJ -RIF CENTRE & Army HQ about BRIgadier sahib life
history.
cheers ---- JAIHIND
Dharmpal Dudee
 
dear all,

its realy a issue which every body has heard or read some or the other time. in fact he was the only jat about whom i ever read in any text book till my graduation .it could be some time in 3rd or 4th std in early 70's. and every body is aware that injustice has been done to the community while denying him ,his due . now i only request ,when we raise this issue ,what ever the forum it should be firm.
i mean either we keep mum or go all out ,my only request is that the great hero is not made a loughing stock. u all know the worth of our politicians.nothing against any body . i am ready to follow the collective order.
 
Rajender Singh ji
I fully agree with you. Such a great hero should find proper place in the history. Rajiv ji has agreed to bring more information on the life of Brig.Hoshiyar Singh. All community member should Help him by providing all available material.
 
How about start from here itself and we gether the info here, discuss here, put together a practical strategie and once ready, we can take it out. As this is private discussion boards so we can discuss all possible ways to present the case in front of law makers(or law breaker, Sarcasiom here)
 
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