Why do Abhishek consider himself inferior, that he hesitated for 6 years asking this question from fellow JLers
Could you not have chosen a better topic for your first thread... "atleast"?
Why do haryana jats consider themselves superior?
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Why do Abhishek consider himself inferior, that he hesitated for 6 years asking this question from fellow JLers
Could you not have chosen a better topic for your first thread... "atleast"?
Hahahah... new one. I think this will be used now onwards.
We JATs do not have to nurture lofty illusions of self-grandiose at the cost of putting others down, or else we run the risk of betraying self-limiting medieval feudal mindset, which in fact is a sign of intellectual backwardness and/or inferiority complex, as the adage goes, "thotha chaanam baaze ghana", "adh jaal gagri, chalki jaye".
True test is not only how we perceive ourselves, but how other's perceive us. Incomplete sample checklist e.g.
JATs are:
1. Brave and kind ... vs ... Brave and bully?
e.g. remember army soldiers vs remember Mirchpur
2. Proud and respectful towards others vs Proud and supremacist (putting others down)?
e.g. JATs are great, so are baman, nai, chamar, teli and so on ... vs No if, No But, only JAT. (chaal hutt, wake up kid, no man is an island, so dude we gotta respect others too)
3. Determined (ekagr) ... vs ... Obstinate (ziddi)
e.g. focused persistence vs ill-informed blind followership (of ideas, other people, such as doggy-leaders (in the name of caste, gotra, etc))
4. Freedom-spirited vs Lafandar
e.g. give your best shot and then don't worry because we have the satisfaction of doing our best and still a winner by bieng richer in terms of experience
vs
not even trying, trying half-hearted and then showing-off empty bravado
5. Die to defend others/weak/nation vs kill for the shallow honor?
e.g. param vir chakra winner jats vs ... jats having distinction of being number one in honor killing of own daughters, girl child (bhrun hatya), etc?
5. Meritocracy (apne dum pe kuch karo ge) vs Reservation (ya phir OBC bann ke sarkari bheek chahiye)?
e.g. Aspiring Entrepreneur vs Reservation-ka-jugaad-for-kamchor-sarkari-naukri.... hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr maa ki ankh, don't make a rotten system more rotten, instead SAY NO TO ALL RESERVATION TO ALL CASTES and ask for scholarship and affordable quality education for all deserving poor.
There is NO one-size-fits-all-Jats. Like other communities, JATs come in all shapes and forms, some are cool dudes and some are di*kheads. It boils down to each one of us, WHAT KIND OF JAT WE CHOSE TO BE?
To take pride in one's heritage is sign of robust self-esteem, but there is a fine line between healthy self-esteem and narcissism.
Pride is good, ego or feeling of being self-entitled superior is not.
Pride with respect for others is good, pride with arrogance is not.
Pride in own heritage, without being supremacist, while EQUALLY respecting others heritage is good.
If we are so ready to take the credit for the good work done by other fellow Jats then we shall be ready to tackle and reform the shameful acts performed by us.
We are kind of Jat, that we act as.
Thoughts become words,
words become promises/expectations,
which make us act in a certain way,
repeated actions become habits.
So lets cultivate GOOD HABITS ... which starts with good thoughts.
FINAL WORDS: We can not be a good Jat or <insert whatever-label here>, without being a GOOD HUMAN BEING FIRST. JATs it from me babyeeeee ...
True test is not only how we perceive ourselves, but how other's perceive us. Incomplete sample checklist e.g.
JATs are:
1. Brave and kind ... vs ... Brave and bully?
e.g. remember army soldiers vs remember Mirchpur
2. Proud and respectful towards others vs Proud and supremacist (putting others down)?
e.g. JATs are great, so are baman, nai, chamar, teli and so on ... vs No if, No But, only JAT. (chaal hutt, wake up kid, no man is an island, so dude we gotta respect others too)
3. Determined (ekagr) ... vs ... Obstinate (ziddi)
e.g. focused persistence vs ill-informed blind followership (of ideas, other people, such as doggy-leaders (in the name of caste, gotra, etc))
4. Freedom-spirited vs Lafandar
e.g. give your best shot and then don't worry because we have the satisfaction of doing our best and still a winner by bieng richer in terms of experience
vs
not even trying, trying half-hearted and then showing-off empty bravado
5. Die to defend others/weak/nation vs kill for the shallow honor?
e.g. param vir chakra winner jats vs ... jats having distinction of being number one in honor killing of own daughters, girl child (bhrun hatya), etc?
5. Meritocracy (apne dum pe kuch karo ge) vs Reservation (ya phir OBC bann ke sarkari bheek chahiye)?
e.g. Aspiring Entrepreneur vs Reservation-ka-jugaad-for-kamchor-sarkari-naukri.... hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr maa ki ankh, don't make a rotten system more rotten, instead SAY NO TO ALL RESERVATION TO ALL CASTES and ask for scholarship and affordable quality education for all deserving poor.
There is NO one-size-fits-all-Jats. Like other communities, JATs come in all shapes and forms, some are cool dudes and some are di*kheads. It boils down to each one of us, WHAT KIND OF JAT WE CHOSE TO BE?
To take pride in one's heritage is sign of robust self-esteem, but there is a fine line between healthy self-esteem and narcissism.
Pride is good, ego or feeling of being self-entitled superior is not.
Pride with respect for others is good, pride with arrogance is not.
Pride in own heritage, without being supremacist, while EQUALLY respecting others heritage is good.
If we are so ready to take the credit for the good work done by other fellow Jats then we shall be ready to tackle and reform the shameful acts performed by us.
We are kind of Jat, that we act as.
Thoughts become words,
words become promises/expectations,
which make us act in a certain way,
repeated actions become habits.
So lets cultivate GOOD HABITS ... which starts with good thoughts.
FINAL WORDS: We can not be a good Jat or <insert whatever-label here>, without being a GOOD HUMAN BEING FIRST. JATs it from me babyeeeee ...
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mhundpuriamann
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I used to think all jaat birathars think they r superior than others.
Superior/Inferior are relative terms lets not get into them. Different places different people different traditions what big deal?
What an individual pursue is best as per him/her, if the other person doesn't do likewise than comparison comes into picture.
UP people have a perception that people of Haryana are akkhad, whereas people of Haryana say UP people are shrewd/ or to say Tejj ho se.
These are perceptions made out of different traditions.
So i see no reason when such things are made base to bring in segregation between "We Jats".
PS: Discussing more on such issues bring in gap rather than narrowing it.
What an individual pursue is best as per him/her, if the other person doesn't do likewise than comparison comes into picture.
UP people have a perception that people of Haryana are akkhad, whereas people of Haryana say UP people are shrewd/ or to say Tejj ho se.
These are perceptions made out of different traditions.
So i see no reason when such things are made base to bring in segregation between "We Jats".
PS: Discussing more on such issues bring in gap rather than narrowing it.
पर अगर किसी को कोई ग़लतफहमी हैं , तो क्या इससे badiya कोई जगह हो सकती हैं ये doubt दूर करने की. अभिषेक तोमर को इस thread पे active होना चाहिए और , वो ऐसा क्यू सोचते है ये discuss करना चाहिए, क्या कोई past incidence हैं जिसके कारण उनको ये लगता हैं. यहा पे major crowd हरियाणा से हैं और वो आसानी से आपका doubt दूर कर सकते हैं.
mhundpuriamann
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I have seen by my experince that Gohana and jind jats are
best ! I think we are far more superior than other jats
of haryana, up & rajasthan (i don't consider Sikh jats as even jaats)
I have few sikh jaats in my neighbourhood and I don't see any jaatu quality in them !
best ! I think we are far more superior than other jats
of haryana, up & rajasthan (i don't consider Sikh jats as even jaats)
I have few sikh jaats in my neighbourhood and I don't see any jaatu quality in them !
May I rephrase, "why do Jats have HIGHER degree of COLLECTIVE-SELF-IDENTITY NARCISSISM?" lolz ... with emphasis on the word NARCISSISM 
ting ting taanning 
"Jats are superior than others" kind of self-defeating delusional castist NARCISSISM won't make us better than others, a respectful-towards-others self-esteem is better i.e. Cool JATTItude with humble GRATITUDE is the way to be.
ting ting taanning "Jats are superior than others" kind of self-defeating delusional castist NARCISSISM won't make us better than others, a respectful-towards-others self-esteem is better i.e. Cool JATTItude with humble GRATITUDE
is the way to be. Cool JATTItude with humble GRATITUDE
Very well said Vishal!!
Very well said Vishal!!
May I rephrase, "why do Jats have HIGHER degree of COLLECTIVE-SELF-IDENTITY NARCISSISM?" lolz ... with emphasis on the word NARCISSISM
"Jats are superior than others" kind of self-defeating delusional castist NARCISSISM won't make us better than others, a respectful-towards-others self-esteem is better i.e. Cool JATTItude with humble GRATITUDE
samarkadian
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May I rephrase, "why do Jats have HIGHER degree of COLLECTIVE-SELF-IDENTITY NARCISSISM?" lolz ... with emphasis on the word NARCISSISM
"Jats are superior than others" kind of self-defeating delusional castist NARCISSISM won't make us better than others, a respectful-towards-others self-esteem is better i.e. Cool JATTItude with humble GRATITUDE
Whats wrong in NARCISSISM Dhillon Sahab? and how Narcissism is disrespect towards others?
shivamchaudhary
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mandeep333
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Friends haven't you noticed that Abhishek Tomar's user name on JLand is indicative of some very significant Section 0f Indian Penal Code which he's adopted to sufix his login ID. (Section 302 tells punishment for Murder). Isn't it strange? Why is he posing such a query to have unnecessary controversy? We all talk of Jat unity. A Jat is a Jat and it should be as simple as two plus two is four.
rekhasmriti
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" ....... Gohana and jind jats ......"
No offence but kuch kehte hai " Aag mei Ghee types "
No offence but kuch kehte hai " Aag mei Ghee types "
jat too area wise kya gender wise bhi sab ki quality ki khabar rakha s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2DjQQePHZw
drrajpalsingh
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Man is the superior creation of the God and all Jats also fall in this category. None of them is inferior. Comparison between Jat and Jat on the basis of place of their residence is futile exercise and must be disdained with utmost contempt that it deserves because it leads to spread of divisive tendencies among the members of the community.
Sufficient evidence is available in the pages of history to show that irrespective of their place of abode the Jats have always stood united in the hour of crises.
Read historic results of the Jat Unity by visiting pages of History of Khaps or History of Bharatpur or Life and Times of Ch. Chhotu Ram to verify the validity of this statement.
Therefore, it is our humble duty to contribute whatever we can to strengthen the unity of the Jats or at least avoid creating a wedge between them on the basis of petty seemingly differences.
Would we start to unite for common cause on equal standing ?
Sufficient evidence is available in the pages of history to show that irrespective of their place of abode the Jats have always stood united in the hour of crises.
Read historic results of the Jat Unity by visiting pages of History of Khaps or History of Bharatpur or Life and Times of Ch. Chhotu Ram to verify the validity of this statement.
Therefore, it is our humble duty to contribute whatever we can to strengthen the unity of the Jats or at least avoid creating a wedge between them on the basis of petty seemingly differences.
Would we start to unite for common cause on equal standing ?
upendersingh
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Other than this site, I have come in contact of hundreds of Haryanvi Jats in my life so far. Almost all of them were/are very good human beings. They never tried to go in superior/inferior like things. Rather they had/have so big heart that they say other superior. If I remember Tara, Nafe, Lohan Sahab, Dharamvir, Inder, Vinod aka Munshi, Sanjay Hooda, Dahiya Sahab, Kundu Sahab, Ajit Malik, Raje, Ishwar...list is very long, they all were/are very nice people to interact with. One thing I noticed common in them is they all are proud to be a Jat. But on this site I have seen many people who like to talk about superiority/inferiority like things.
shivamchaudhary
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सही कह रहे हो. तोमर भाई ने तागा शुरु करके दोड लगा दी. पीछे मुड़ के भी न देखा की, उसकी बात पे किस-किस के लठ बाज रहे है !!
Exactly! I noticed the same with jats everywhere except few (very few) on JL. So the majority is not like that. Lets leave the mentally sick minority, they are in every cast to divide.
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