Why Jats do not marry in same Gotr

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The Satyarth Prakash says :

Any two persons who have, in their childhood, lived near each other, played and quarreled together, loved one another, noticed each other's faults, imperfections, ebullitions of temper and misbehaviors, and perhaps sometimes, even each other undressed, if married to each other, can never love each other to the extent desired.

The marriage of near relatives does not improve the race from want of interchange of fluids and essences (such as blood) of the body, it rather deteriorates it,. This is analogous to the addition of water to water, no new quality being produced.

As the addition of sugar and such medicines as ginger, improves the taste and quality of milk, so does the marriage of people, who are not related to each other (either on father's or on mother's side), improve the race.
As in the case of an invalid, change of climate and diet very often effects a cure, so does marriage with foreigners or distant people improve the health of the parties and prove beneficial in every other respect.
When the parties are nearly related to each other and live amongst their people, the sorrows and joys of one family will affect the other and there will be many occasions for family disputes to arise; while marriages among distant people and consequent separation from relatives lengthen the thread of mutual love. This is not the case when they live near their people.

When marriages are contracted with people of foreign or distant countries, things and news from those countries can be easily obtained (and consequently relations between different countries become closely established). This not possible when people marry near relatives or persons living near their homes, or, in their own country.
In Sanskrit a daughter is called duhitri (from Du - distant, Hit - good), because the marriage of a girl to a man who comes from a distant country or distant part of the same country is productive of good.

If the bride's people do not live very far from her husband's home, there is a possibility of her parents becoming poor, as whenever she visits her parents, they will have to give her something or other by the way of a present.
If their people live near at hand, on any slight friction taking place between the husband and the wife, she, feeling assured that her people will support her, will at once leave her husband and go to her parents. That may become the cause of mutual reviling and wrangling, for, women, as a rule, are so easily offended and pleased.

Dr. S.M. Bewis while speaking at the National Medical Association made the following shocking statement: "My researches give me authority to say that over ten per cent of the deaf and dumb, and over five percent of the blind , and nearly fifteen percent of the idiotic in our State institutions for subject of these effects, are the offspring of kindred parents."
 
One should avoid marriages within same gotra..

Hi All Jaats fellow
Being a PhD research fellow (Biochem), i agree that marriage within a GOTRA should be avoided. Marriage within proximity of father and mother side shows Inbreeding and such matter leads any bad mutation or can lead bad effects in the progeny (son or daughter) such as any deafness or physical change. Even in Muslim community atleast they avoid marriage within same parent lineage. Albeit in Muslims, there is more inbredding than in Hindus. One can see a good example among common muslim slum dwellers where they do close family marriages, show poor children in case of body figure or education wise. Always marriage should be between 2 fellows who belong to as far as possible family lineages. Human genetics have lots of proof behind it. No doubt that our forefathers were strong enough and they started such types of rules and regulations even that time there was no bioscience scientists or human genetists in world. perhaps they did such types of demarcation in lie of viewing physical examples among them. One should cogitate much scietifically and nonscientifically, before refuting any rules or regulations that our old family members tell us to do.
Please, i am would ask pardon if anything unknowingly hurt someones views.
Thnaks
Arun Pratap Sikarwar
PhD Research Fellow (Biochem)
Mumbai
Ph 9892050651
 
The sapinda and prohibited relationships

Dear members

The traditional Hindu law strictly regulated marriage among sapindas (Hindi word Pinda-same clan) and persons falling within prohibited degrees. There was a system of 'degrees" that extended upto seven degrees from the father's side and five degrees from the mother's side in case of sapinda. Thus, a person was not allowed to marry a boy/girl falling within these seven/five degrees. The Hindu Marriage Act, 1955 reduced these degrees to five and three respectively.

The Jats followed this mandate in its true letter and spirit and they even denied any concept of degrees when it came to same Gotra. Thus, the mere sameness of Gotra is sufficient and there is no concept of degrees applicable there. That is why they are most healthy and disease free human beings.

Regards

Praveen Dalal
 
Man thats alot of information..!

Fellow jats,
I’m so glad that someone refer me to this website, there is so much to be learned about my own culture, Well I guess being born in a Cosmo city provides you with few opportunity to think about yourself..! You are always busy planning how to skew other people.!! :)
But I still wonder about this Inter-cast marriage, I agree to all the facts you have posted here, but you don’t have to freaking kill someone just because they married someone from a diffrent cast or gotra, I remember reading articles in the newspapers that someone killed there own daughter because she married someone from a diffrent cast.
I know this is kinda off topic but this links to this inter-cast issues somewhere down the line.
Well all Im trying to say here is that there are exceptions in life and we have to live with them.
 
well its Scientific and terrific

AS mentioned above mammalian body has 2 pairs of genes.Usually stated as pair of chromosomes.Some times there are genes which tend to mutate.But the basic reason is something else.Our body has dominant genes and recessive genes and the characters are based on these genes so whenever genes from the same family tree tend to mix up dominant genes are suppressed and receesive or in simpler terms unwanted genes become more dominant and leads to disorders or other inherited diseases( like heart problems and diabetes etc.)
So thats how parsy community have major problems.
But u can say its not always true, but in case of jats, people of same gotr are considered to be derived from the same tree or pedigree so they are usually refered to as siblings and this is out of nature to get married with in same family ( like animals do) so atleast there shud be a difference between animals and humans:D
Though some of us might contradict on this, but there are people like that so WE shud stick to our traditions thats what JATS are really.
 
this is a genetically proven excellent social practice

this is a genetically proven excellent social practice.the gotra quandry. marriages in genetically related relatives leads to double parental loading of genes & increase the probability of deformities -a well proven genetic research fact(hence more genetic diseases are found in .......religious community in india...no names pls).your reffered concept of saving "good" genes was long back used as a pretext for interbreeding in german race by nazi govt(hitler wali) to maintain purity of aryan race(we jats are aryans too??? i dont believe in this piece of info).....................a unique research one of its kind(?unethical) ever coducted.Our ANCESTORS practise of avoiding close interbreeding by avoiding gotras has improved the health & survival and genetic hetergenity of jats.
 
We Got Excellent Social,legal,statistical,historical & Medical Views ..........diff Perspectives To Your Excellent Thread. A Spirit Of Multipronged Scintific Search.kudos To U & Jatland
 
why

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devdahiya said:
Bang on target bebe. I second your opinion.
why Jats don't marry inter-caste... by the genetic logic that would be even better.
 
bhupenderkumar said:
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why Jats don't marry inter-caste... by the genetic logic that would be even better.
Jat inter-caste marriage isliye nahi karte q ki koi aur jaton me shadi nahi karta....;) ....and not only that...within jats also...people from Haryana prefer Haryana familiy...and same is true for the jats of UP and Rajasthan.....

arr...bahi kal ku nu puchoge akk jat angrejon se shadi q nahi karte....I mean there is not end to this....the point is that it is good to marry outside your gotra....if you follow it ...very good...if not ...it is your choice..

any community can make rule for themselves only....agar jaton ne aisa koi niyam banaya hai ke shadi apne gotra me nahee karni hai toh sirf jaton ke liye hee bana sakte the...iske liye dusron ko force toh nahi kiya ja sakta....




second thing...and it is very important....I personaly feel this gotra thing is going to go away very soon...may be in next 20-30 years or may be 50 years....and it is very sad...no matter how scientific it is not to marry in your own relatives...but now arrange marriage is going to become a thing of past....and log apna partner khuh chuna karenge....just like in western countries....USA me kisi ki beti agar 15 saal ki hone ke bad dating nahi karti hai toh ladki kee maa ko chinta satane lagti hai... and It is going to happen in India very soon....and then people will start marrying their neighbours and relatives....fir kaun gotra ko puchata hai....
 
drgaurav said:
this is a genetically proven excellent social practice.the gotra quandry. marriages in genetically related relatives leads to double parental loading of genes & increase the probability of deformities -a well proven genetic research fact(hence more genetic diseases are found in .......religious community in india...no names pls).your reffered concept of saving "good" genes was long back used as a pretext for interbreeding in german race by nazi govt(hitler wali) to maintain purity of aryan race(we jats are aryans too??? i dont believe in this piece of info).....................a unique research one of its kind(?unethical) ever coducted.Our ANCESTORS practise of avoiding close interbreeding by avoiding gotras has improved the health & survival and genetic hetergenity of jats.

Near to Perfect explanation doc, actually i wanted to say that but cud not put the the right words i wanted to be simple and more over i m not in constant touch of research any more basicaly i m a clinician but for animals and now surprisingly doing MBA.
But thnx for updating
 
Future Is Ours

spdeshwal said:
Parsis(zoroastrians), who mostly live in Mumbai and coastal Gujrat is also a very cosely guarded community. They don,t allow marriages out side their community. Non parsis can't convert to zoroastrianism even after marriage with a parsi.

Unlike jats they marry in close relations. This could be the reason that parsis are physically not that strong.

And moreover, this could be the reason why they will soon become history.

I strongly believe our customs of not marrying within same gotra. That's why we will remain strong (as per history) in future also.

FUTURE IS OURS!

Cheers!!!


Anand Dalal
 
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