Why to Feel Proud to be an Indian !!

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Nashier Uncle,

Can't agree more then that, I concur ur views uncleji 100% ! This is wat I wanted to convey but I was just not getting the right words, Nashier uncle put it in really great manner, so thanks to him! :) Kudos to You...

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@ Veeru Uncle : Uncleji firstly plz dont use words like 'Ji' .. am like ur son so it makes me feel low...btw, I simply luv the way u express ur views using practical examples; makes it very easy to grasp! :)

I very much agree with ur positive views and I second ur thoughts, - 'We can only control our own activities. That is the least we can do for ourselves, society and the nation, and be proud of it.' But problem is no one willing to change as Nashier uncle stated, the situation is worsenin day by day , The day when every Indian will start introspecting and try to improve himself, Our India will be nothing less then Heaven! :)

As for people settled abroad I've nothing against them, they infact made a gud move to improve quality of life & achieve their goals, even many family members of mine are well settled in abroad but they are still very much Indian, whenever they come to India, nobody can tell that these ppl have been leaving abroad for long! I really appreciate their stickeness towards their roots & their down2earth attitude, But how many NRIs r like this leave for Jats, they are n always will be true Indians no matter how many years they spend abroad, wat about Gujuratis n Punjabis? are they attached to their Indian culture? I doubt!...

Anyways, Uncleji I very much appreciate ur views here & its always enlightening to intreact with ya! :)

May be we aimin high but one day we Indian will be proud of 'Real Pride' !

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@ Gulia Bhaisaab : Bhaisaab, Ram Ram ... Plz dont get me wrong am very much cool n relaxed and No hard feelings by my side! :)
I just got lil irritated with ur that statment thats why I stated my views! So plz dont take it otherwise & I dont hv any doubt about ur being Indian, A Real Jat always will be Indian no matter where he lives ...

U know my Tauji (who's a renown Scientist) and Elder sis & family, are settled in Canada, they still are very much Indians ... as I stated earlier they all are very much attached to their roots & culture and am proud of it.

As par you, It'll take some time rather more time to people sense their duties but how later, Conditions is getting worsen day by day as Nashier uncle explained so it aches!

You gave in gud examples and here I also wanna give couple of ones, you know Japan was completly destroyed in Second world war so India & Japan kinda started rebuilding at the same time, now look at the Japan n then look at the India ... I guess I dont need to explain the diffrence! :) second example is of China, we almost same r in population, once China was considered as 'Sick Man of Asia' just becoz most of their ppl r addicted to drugs n all become lathargic n lazy; look at them now they are arguable the most fit ppl in world today, they always stand #1 in Olympics!

Why Japan & China devloped in sucha sort time span? Whats the reason? I guess everybody knows the reason! 'Sense of Civic Duties' & 'Self introspection' .... The day when Indian started thinkin about it we'll be far far ahead from rest of world! ... its a wishful thinkin thou :)


Thats all for now...


Rock on
Jit

Jit bhai I never got angry..............
I appreciate your concern for the country and I hope if every one starts thinking like you then that day is not far off when India will be competing with the western world in all sphere. My brother, just have patience, India is on right track and I hope by 2020 you will notice lot of changes.
 
My brother, just have patience, India is on right track and I hope by 2020 you will notice lot of changes. .... India is on right track and I hope by 2020 you will notice lot of changes.

Sir, Could u please throw some light on it? agar India sehi maie right track par hai to log 20 saal to kya 50 saal tak bi intzaar kar sakte hai !! but yeh right track hi to visible nai ho reha hai !!
 
Sir, Could u please throw some light on it? agar India sehi maie right track par hai to log 20 saal to kya 50 saal tak bi intzaar kar sakte hai !! but yeh right track hi to visible nai ho reha hai !!


  • India is already more advanced in field of telecommunication.
  • Already work is under progress to create various corridors for linking regions for road transportation. This sector needs little more pace of work.
  • Middle class population has increased manifold
  • foreign exchange reserves are excellent
  • foreign investment is increasing at faster rate
  • There are various other economic indicators which points towards the economic progress.
  • Power sector needs attention: This problem can be solved up to a large extent if nuclear deal is signed
  • And the list goes on………………….
 
Bhaisaab, aapne ache points ginwaye but these all r surface qualities , when u go deep in the granular level then u'll come to know how pathetic the conditions are .. :rolleyes:

The height of optimism : '100 mein se 100 Beimaan fir bhi mera Desh Mahan' errr 100 na hein 99.99% hein ;) lekin round figure mein 100 hi ho liye!

Bhaisaab ish desh ka kuch naa ho sakta ye to bhagwan bharose hi chal reha hai ... !! :rolleyes:

It may sound really negative but this is the harsh truth n we all know it!


But still am very much Indian and am luving it just like my home inspite of all negativity! :)


Rock on
Jit



  • India is already more advanced in field of telecommunication.
  • Already work is under progress to create various corridors for linking regions for road transportation. This sector needs little more pace of work.
  • Middle class population has increased manifold
  • foreign exchange reserves are excellent
  • foreign investment is increasing at faster rate
  • There are various other economic indicators which points towards the economic progress.
  • Power sector needs attention: This problem can be solved up to a large extent if nuclear deal is signed
  • And the list goes on………………….
 
Bhaisaab, aapne ache points ginwaye but these all r surface qualities , when u go deep in the granular level then u'll come to know how pathetic the conditions are .. :rolleyes:

The height of optimism : '100 mein se 100 Beimaan fir bhi mera Desh Mahan' errr 100 na hein 99.99% hein ;) lekin round figure mein 100 hi ho liye!

Bhaisaab ish desh ka kuch naa ho sakta ye to bhagwan bharose hi chal reha hai ... !! :rolleyes:

It may sound really negative but this is the harsh truth n we all know it!


But still am very much Indian and am luving it just like my home inspite of all negativity! :)


Rock on
Jit

I do agree with you. Real India is our country side i.e. villages. I agree that condition of our people in villages is pathetic and needs improvement at a larger scale. That problem will be solved with help of education and educated & devoted leadership at grass root level. So, it will take time.
 
this was india...i envisage this type of india, once again !!! :):rolleyes::)

Albert Einstein
said "We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made."

Mark Twain
said "India is, the cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the mother of history, the grandmother of legend, and the great grand mother of tradition. Our most valuable and most constructive materials in the history of man are treasured up in India only."

French scholar Romain Rolland said "If there is one place on the face of earth where all the dreams of living men have found a home from the very earliest days when man began the dream of existence, it is India."

HuShih[FONT=&quot], former Ambassador of China to USA said "India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border . [/FONT]
 
  • India is already more advanced in field of telecommunication.
  • Already work is under progress to create various corridors for linking regions for road transportation. This sector needs little more pace of work.
  • Middle class population has increased manifold
  • foreign exchange reserves are excellent
  • foreign investment is increasing at faster rate
  • There are various other economic indicators which points towards the economic progress.
  • Power sector needs attention: This problem can be solved up to a large extent if nuclear deal is signed
  • And the list goes on………………….

Some points from my side ( related to IT only):



  • [*]India is a talent-rich country: outsource IT talent
    [*]India exports software to 95 countries around the world: outsource expertise in global methodologies
India enjoys the confidence of global corporations: outsource high quality brain-power!



  • [*]82% of the US companies ranked India as their first choice for software outsourcing
    [*]Bill Clinton applauds India 's brainpower: says Indian-Americans run more than 750 companies in America 's Silicon Valley . "You liberated your markets and now you have one of the 10 fastest growing economies in the world," said President Clinton.
    [*]Bill Gates says India is an IT superpower: strikes strategic alliances with Wipro and Infosys to develop applications on the .Net platform
    [*]Jack Welch opens $130 million Technology Center in Bangalore , GE's largest R&D center outside the US : celebrates 10 years of GE Medical Systems in India
India Offers Multiple Advantages



  • [*]Outsource to stay competitive. Leading companies worldwide realize that to maintain stay ahead, they need to reduce costs, provide the best quality, use the latest high-tech skills, and be reliable and innovative
    [*]Outsource to a mature industry with world-class systems, systems and quality. Of the 23 software companies in the world that have achieved the prestigious SEI-CMM Level 5, 15 of them are Indian. India will soon have the highest number of ISO-9000 software companies in the world, according to Nasscom
India has state-of-the-art technologies for total solutions: outsource turnkey projects

Offshore assignments have moved up the value chain - from data entry to large and complex turnkey projects of 200 to 300 person years.
Applications include:


  • [*]E-Commerce
    [*]Business Process Re-engineering
    [*]System Migration
    [*]Maintaining Legacy Systems
    [*]System Integration
    [*]CBI Application
"India, US sign deals worth US $6 billion "

"India bid to boost to bilateral economic ties, with Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee in the US, India and the US have signed five commercial deals worth US $6 billion for projects in power, e-commerce and banking sectors."

IT is a major thrust area for the Government of India



  • [*]IT is one of the Government of India's top five priorities.
    [*]The National IT Task Force submitted its 108 point Action Plan to promote IT in the country. The Government of India has approved the plan and is in the process of implementing it.
    [*]A separate Ministry of Information Technology was set up to expedite swift approval and implementation of IT projects and to streamline the regulatory process.
    [*]Information Technology Act 2000: The Information Technology Bill that was passed in the Indian Parliament in May 2000, has now been notified as the IT Act 2000. The IT Bill brings E-commerce within the purview of law and accords stringent punishments to "cyber criminals". With this, India joins a select band of 12 nations that have cyber laws.
Software Technology Parks of India offer world-class infrastructure and various incentives and concessions to encourage foreign investment and promote software development in India eg 100% Foreign equity is permitted and approved under the Automatic Route delegated powers to The Director STPI, tax holiday until 2010, etc.
India has a stable government and is one of the world's 10 fastest-growing economies



  • [*]Fifty years of democracy
    [*]Indian service sector contributes a massive 51 per cent to India 's GDP. Within this category, the most promising is computer software export, which grew at an amazing rate of 40-50 per cent every year during the 1990s
    [*]Excellent investment potential: India ranked third in Asia, just after Japan and China , in terms of investment potential for the next 10-year period in a study by the Export-Import bank of Japan
    [*]Privatization of the infrastructure sector
    [*]A convergent network is being created by the intertwining of the ISP, Telecom, VSAT, Cellular and networking sectors. India 's large business houses and Public Sector Units are working towards creating greater bandwidth availability
 
Some points from my side ( related to IT only):



  • [*]India is a talent-rich country: outsource IT talent
    [*]India exports software to 95 countries around the world: outsource expertise in global methodologies
India enjoys the confidence of global corporations: outsource high quality brain-power!



  • [*]82% of the US companies ranked India as their first choice for software outsourcing
    [*]Bill Clinton applauds India 's brainpower: says Indian-Americans run more than 750 companies in America 's Silicon Valley . "You liberated your markets and now you have one of the 10 fastest growing economies in the world," said President Clinton.
    [*]Bill Gates says India is an IT superpower: strikes strategic alliances with Wipro and Infosys to develop applications on the .Net platform
    [*]Jack Welch opens $130 million Technology Center in Bangalore , GE's largest R&D center outside the US : celebrates 10 years of GE Medical Systems in India
India Offers Multiple Advantages



  • [*]Outsource to stay competitive. Leading companies worldwide realize that to maintain stay ahead, they need to reduce costs, provide the best quality, use the latest high-tech skills, and be reliable and innovative
    [*]Outsource to a mature industry with world-class systems, systems and quality. Of the 23 software companies in the world that have achieved the prestigious SEI-CMM Level 5, 15 of them are Indian. India will soon have the highest number of ISO-9000 software companies in the world, according to Nasscom
India has state-of-the-art technologies for total solutions: outsource turnkey projects

Offshore assignments have moved up the value chain - from data entry to large and complex turnkey projects of 200 to 300 person years.
Applications include:


  • [*]E-Commerce
    [*]Business Process Re-engineering
    [*]System Migration
    [*]Maintaining Legacy Systems
    [*]System Integration
    [*]CBI Application
"India, US sign deals worth US $6 billion "

"India bid to boost to bilateral economic ties, with Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee in the US, India and the US have signed five commercial deals worth US $6 billion for projects in power, e-commerce and banking sectors."
IT is a major thrust area for the Government of India



  • [*]IT is one of the Government of India's top five priorities.
    [*]The National IT Task Force submitted its 108 point Action Plan to promote IT in the country. The Government of India has approved the plan and is in the process of implementing it.
    [*]A separate Ministry of Information Technology was set up to expedite swift approval and implementation of IT projects and to streamline the regulatory process.
    [*]Information Technology Act 2000: The Information Technology Bill that was passed in the Indian Parliament in May 2000, has now been notified as the IT Act 2000. The IT Bill brings E-commerce within the purview of law and accords stringent punishments to "cyber criminals". With this, India joins a select band of 12 nations that have cyber laws.
Software Technology Parks of India offer world-class infrastructure and various incentives and concessions to encourage foreign investment and promote software development in India eg 100% Foreign equity is permitted and approved under the Automatic Route delegated powers to The Director STPI, tax holiday until 2010, etc.
India has a stable government and is one of the world's 10 fastest-growing economies



  • [*]Fifty years of democracy
    [*]Indian service sector contributes a massive 51 per cent to India 's GDP. Within this category, the most promising is computer software export, which grew at an amazing rate of 40-50 per cent every year during the 1990s
    [*]Excellent investment potential: India ranked third in Asia, just after Japan and China , in terms of investment potential for the next 10-year period in a study by the Export-Import bank of Japan
    [*]Privatization of the infrastructure sector
    [*]A convergent network is being created by the intertwining of the ISP, Telecom, VSAT, Cellular and networking sectors. India 's large business houses and Public Sector Units are working towards creating greater bandwidth availability


Adding on to what has rightly been put above...

there could be many reasons why I m proud of India, but would only say..


I am proud to be born in a nation which has a strong and deep rooted cutural heritage and values.(now before some of you roll your eyes)..tell me which other civilization has survived 5000 yrs.(it could be more ??) ..which works as a spiritual catalyst, which is touted to be the next ECO-boom...and thankfully not an empty utensil..



reminds me of a few lines of IQBAAL..

"Unaano, misr, rumaan..sab mitt gaye jahan se..
kuchh baat hai k hasti mitt ti nahin humari..

sadiyon raha hai dushman daure jahan humara.."


For those who talk about in efficient society...give one example which other country is without flaws and what exactly you have done about it ? Its easy to pass the buck rather than take the responsibility.

Coming to corrupt politician/ govt..voted by illiterates, I wonder where this educated class vanishes when its the time to choose the right representatives:confused:..during every election why their turn-out is so low in comparision to those illeterates, if they r so much concerned about the rottening situation ?:(

If my society has rotten its coz of me. Who makes the society or this govt.people like you and me.If I am affected by its degradation, first and foremost I'll have to bring a change in me .


Having said that, I m not denying or turning a blind eye toward the shortcomings, but mere bickering and sitting in comfort zone of our homes will not change the situation either.

"gandagi saaf karne k liye usme utarna padta hai":)

lastly, read somewhere..
"A tree must love the ground on which it stands...":)
 


If my society has rotten its coz of me. Who makes the society or this govt.people like you and me.If I am affected by its degradation, first and foremost I'll have to bring a change in me .


Nice thoughts indeed.. but while speaking frankly there are hardly 1 percent ppl out of total population who think on these lines.. and out of them majority are such that they only speak or should I say “lip service” (u can observe it on jatland too).. Now u urself can see how bright the future is.

Fault is not in the system but it lies with ppl.. as u have already said its only we, the citizen of this country, who should be blamed for such a distorted present.

Now to expect that there will be any kind of miracle at the level of thought process of the ppl then it would be just hoping against the hope.

So the bottom line is that we left with only one solution and that is the change in the governing system. Current parliamentary system of government works well only where the public is responsible and aware of their duties. It is not suitable to India.
 
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[Nice thoughts indeed.. but while speaking frankly there are hardly 1 percent ppl out of total population who think on these lines.. and out of them majority are such that they only speak or should I say “lip service” (u can observe it on jatland too).. Now u urself can see how bright the future is.]

you are right wen you talk about the lip service..

per meri samjh mein to ek baat aawe hai...

"agar mere ghar mein aag laag ri hai..to manne k karna chahiye??"

aag bhujhaani chahiye ,,ya padosiyan k ghar mein ja k hai-hai machani chahiye??:confused:

haan ho sake hai ..ak shayad main akele uss aag ne na bhujha paau..per kam te kam koshish to karungi ..ya nahin :)

**ppl may differ on this as, one is entitled to one's opinion ..n so m I.
 
[Nice thoughts indeed.. but while speaking frankly there are hardly 1 percent ppl out of total population who think on these lines.. and out of them majority are such that they only speak or should I say “lip service” (u can observe it on jatland too).. Now u urself can see how bright the future is.]

you are right wen you talk about the lip service..

per meri samjh mein to ek baat aawe hai...

"agar mere ghar mein aag laag ri hai..to manne k karna chahiye??"

aag bhujhaani chahiye ,,ya padosiyan k ghar mein ja k hai-hai machani chahiye??:confused:

haan ho sake hai ..ak shayad main akele uss aag ne na bhujha paau..per kam te kam koshish to karungi ..ya nahin :)

**ppl may differ on this as, one is entitled to one's opinion ..n so m I.

I really appreciate your thought and explanation.
 
FACTS TO MAKE EVERY Indian PROUD


FACTS TO MAKE EVERY Indian PROUD​





Q. Who is the GM of Hewlett Packard (hp)
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A. Rajiv Gupta
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Q. Who is the creator of Pentium chip (needs no introduction as 90% of the today's computers run on it)?
A. Vinod Dahm



Q. Who is the third richest man on the world?
A. According to the latest report on Fortune Magazine, it is Azim Premji, who is the CEO of Wipro Industries. The Sultan of Brunei is at 6 th position now.


Q. Who is the founder and creator of Hotmail (Hotmail is world's No.1 web based email program)?

A. Sabeer Bhatia


Q. Who is the president of AT & T-Bell Labs (AT & T-Bell Labs is the creator of program languages such as C, C++, Unix to name a few)?
A. Arun Netravalli
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Q. Who is the new MTD (Microsoft Testing Director) of Windows 2000, responsible to iron out all initial problems?
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A. Sanjay Tejwrika





Q. Who are the Chief Executives of CitiBank, Mckensey & Stanchart?
A. Victor Menezes, Rajat Gupta, and Rana Talwar.


Q. We Indians are the wealthiest among all ethnic groups in America , even faring better than the whites and the natives.

There are 3.22 millions of Indians in USA (1.5% of population). YET,

38% of doctors in USA are Indians.
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12% scientists in USA are Indians.
36% of NASA scientists are Indians.
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34% of Microsoft employees are Indians.

28% of IBM employees are Indians.

17% of INTEL scientists are Indians.
13% of XEROX employees are! Indians.



Some of the following facts may be known to you. These facts were recently published in a German magazine, which deals with WORLD HISTORY FACTS ABOUT INDIA .
1. India never invaded any country in her last 1000 years of history.
2. India invented the Number system. Zero was invented by Aryabhatta.
3. The world's first University was established in Takshila in 700BC. More than 10,500 students from all over the world studied more than 60 subjects. The University of Nalanda built in the 4 th century BC was one of the greatest achievements of ancient India in the field of education.
4. According to the Forbes magazine, Sanskrit is the most suitable language for computer software.

5. Ayurveda is the earliest school of medicine known to humans.
6. Although western media portray modern images of India as poverty striken and underdeveloped through political corruption, India was once the richest empire on earth.

7. The art of navigation was born in the river Sindh 5000 years ago. The very word 'Navigation' is derived from the Sanskrit word NAVGATIH.
8. The value of pi was first calculated by Budhayana, and he explained the concept of what is now k! nown as the Pythagorean Theorem. British scholars have last year (1999) officially published that Budhayan's works dates to the 6 th Century which is long before the European mathematicians.

9. Algebra, trigonometry and calculus came from India . Quadratic equations were by Sridharacharya in the 11 th Century; the largest numbers the Greeks and the Romans used were 106 whereas Indians used numbers as big as 10 53.
10.. According to the Gemmological Institute of America, up until 1896, India was the only source of diamonds to the world.

11. USA based IEEE has proved what has been a century-old suspicion amongst academics that the pioneer of wireless communication was Professor Jagdeesh Bose and not Marconi.
12. The earliest reservoir and dam for irrigation was built in Saurashtra.

13. Chess was invented in India ..
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14. Sushruta is the father of surgery. 2600 years ago he and health scientists of his time conducted surgeries like cesareans, cataract, fractures and urinary stones.. Usage of anaesthesia was well known in ancient India .
15. When many cultures in the world were only nomadic forest dwellers over 5000 years ago, Indians established Harappan culture in Sindhu Valley ( Indus Valley Civilisation).
16. The place value system, the decimal system was developed in India in 100 BC.



Quotes about India ..
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We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made.

Albert Einstein.





India is the cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the mother of history, the grandmother of legend and the great grand mother of tradition.

Mark Twain.
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If there is one place on the face of earth where all dreams of living men have found a home from the very earliest days when man began the dream of existence, it is India .

French scholar Romain Rolland.
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India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border.

Hu Shih
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(former Chinese ambassador to USA )
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ALL OF THE ABOVE IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG, THE LIST COULD BE ENDLESS.
BUT, if we don't see even a glimpse of that great India in the India that we see today, it clearly means that we are not working up to our potential; and that if we do, we could once again be an evershining and inspiring country setting a bright path for rest of the world to follow..
I hope you enjoyed it and work towards the welfare of INDIA ..
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Why NOT to feel proud to be an Indian

I could go on and on about the things that DO NOT make me proud of India. But I will stick to the major issues I have (and please, I know that no country or society is perfect, all systems have flaws, but since we are talking about India here…)

  • (CHILD) PROSTITUTION
People talk about the “moral values” in India; I call it hypocrisy!
(City Population Prostitute Population
Bombay 10 million 100,000
Calcutta 9 million 100,000
Delhi 7 million 40,000
Agra 3 million 40,000)
A survey conducted by Indian Health Organization of a red light area of Bombay shows:
1. 20% of the one lakh prostitutes are children.
2. 25% of the child prostitutes had been abducted and sold.
3. 6% had been raped and sold.
4. 8% had been sold by their fathers after forcing them into incestuous relationships.
5. 2 lakh minor girls between ages 9yrs-20yrs were brought every year from Nepal to India and 20,000 of them are in Bombay brothels.
6. 15% to 18% are adolescents between 13 yrs and 18 yrs.
7. 15% of the women in prostitution have been sold by their husbands
8. Of 200m suffering from sexually transmitted diseases in the world 50m alone were in India.
These women and children are there because there is a demand for their services. Indians look at the west and think of themselves as morally superior because theirs is not an open society (sex before marriage, porn, etc. are taboos). When a woman walks on the road in India (even traditionally dressed), you can find an unlimited amount of leering and crude remarks, sexual innuendos, etc. While in the west you could walk around half naked and the worst that would happen is that people would give you a strange look and you might get arrested for indecent exposure.

  • CHILDLABOUR
India has the largest number of children under the age of 15 in work in the world. According to an Indian census (this was in 1991 but I doubt if the numbers now are much better), there were 11.28 million working children under the age of fourteen years in India.


  • FEMALE FOETICIDE/INFANTICIDE
This does not just occur amongst the poor and illiterate. Medium class and well to do families with their unrational desire for a son are as much to blame.

  • CARING OF OUR ELDERS
In the West, you are lord and master of your own property till you die; in India the children are already demanding their “HISSA” while the parents are still alive and kicking! And after these people do distribute their property, they are left to the mercy of their children. And I am sure every one of us has heard of the misery that this social structure or way of thinking has created for countless of old people. And certainly in our rural JAT community!
In India people say that in the West old people are shoved off into old people’s homes and their kids don’t care. Well, their kids do care. When both husband and wife have a full time job and the kids are in school and have their own activities, what is the best solution for everyone concerned? Well tell me, what would you prefer when you are old? A home where you are taken care of, with other people your age, where you are kept mentally and physically active OR living with your son/family and be just tolerated, ignored or even in certain instances downright abused (verbally and possibly even physically).

And I could go on and on…
 
BBC is there to just highlight the dark part of our Country. They do not show documentaries on riches of India but the poorest......... I don't know what is their intention in this........

As far as we proud of something extra ordinary we have, But if we do not have that particular thing then we will not say why we dont feel proud to...........

We feel proud to be Indian coz. Ghandhi India........
But we dont feel proud to be Indian coz. not a single Gandhi born after 1869.........
But we dont feel proud to be Indian coz. not a single effile tower we made......... And the list will be bigger than that of yours........


DOnt compare India with Europe

Indian suffered 1000 years of slavery.........

Europe 100% lateracy is there

if you see 100 years old europe, it might be worst than todays' India...........
 
Dear Seemaji,

Indeed thought provoking n eye opening facts, I second ur thoughts very much here!

I dont get one thing, why do so called pseudo proud Indians keep drum beating about the ancient Indian culture and feel happy about it :rolleyes: .., I agree that we have oldest & finest culture n hertiage and am proud of it as well ... but I wonder how many of our countrymen try to follow them?

It reminds me of a scene from a very gud but flop movie Swadesh in which when SRK talks about the probs & critcize the social evils ... the elder ppl of village kinda become reluctant ... keep beating the drum that we've sucha rich culture n ancient hertiage and all world accepts .. balah!balah!... then SRK says stop living in past, talk about present .... where we're n find out the shortcoming and lets do efforts to improve n rectify them!!

Well, 'Dil ko behlane ko galib khayal acha hai'... so comeon guys open ur eyes ... n lets talk about both bright side & dark side of it n accept the realism!! Lets not be escapist!; n figureout n accept the real issues !

Here talking about the ancient India n about the few successful ppl doesnt make India worth prouding ... we should give in serious efforts to make it!


But I feel helpless to see, not a single damn person care about his/her duties & about civil sense ... So I find it a far away dream ...


way to go!...


Rock on
Jit



I could go on and on about the things that DO NOT make me proud of India. But I will stick to the major issues I have (and please, I know that no country or society is perfect, all systems have flaws, but since we are talking about India here…)

  • (CHILD) PROSTITUTION
People talk about the “moral values” in India; I call it hypocrisy!
(City Population Prostitute Population
Bombay 10 million 100,000
Calcutta 9 million 100,000
Delhi 7 million 40,000
Agra 3 million 40,000)
A survey conducted by Indian Health Organization of a red light area of Bombay shows:
1. 20% of the one lakh prostitutes are children.
2. 25% of the child prostitutes had been abducted and sold.
3. 6% had been raped and sold.
4. 8% had been sold by their fathers after forcing them into incestuous relationships.
5. 2 lakh minor girls between ages 9yrs-20yrs were brought every year from Nepal to India and 20,000 of them are in Bombay brothels.
6. 15% to 18% are adolescents between 13 yrs and 18 yrs.
7. 15% of the women in prostitution have been sold by their husbands
8. Of 200m suffering from sexually transmitted diseases in the world 50m alone were in India.
These women and children are there because there is a demand for their services. Indians look at the west and think of themselves as morally superior because theirs is not an open society (sex before marriage, porn, etc. are taboos). When a woman walks on the road in India (even traditionally dressed), you can find an unlimited amount of leering and crude remarks, sexual innuendos, etc. While in the west you could walk around half naked and the worst that would happen is that people would give you a strange look and you might get arrested for indecent exposure.

  • CHILDLABOUR
India has the largest number of children under the age of 15 in work in the world. According to an Indian census (this was in 1991 but I doubt if the numbers now are much better), there were 11.28 million working children under the age of fourteen years in India.


  • FEMALE FOETICIDE/INFANTICIDE
This does not just occur amongst the poor and illiterate. Medium class and well to do families with their unrational desire for a son are as much to blame.

  • CARING OF OUR ELDERS
In the West, you are lord and master of your own property till you die; in India the children are already demanding their “HISSA” while the parents are still alive and kicking! And after these people do distribute their property, they are left to the mercy of their children. And I am sure every one of us has heard of the misery that this social structure or way of thinking has created for countless of old people. And certainly in our rural JAT community!
In India people say that in the West old people are shoved off into old people’s homes and their kids don’t care. Well, their kids do care. When both husband and wife have a full time job and the kids are in school and have their own activities, what is the best solution for everyone concerned? Well tell me, what would you prefer when you are old? A home where you are taken care of, with other people your age, where you are kept mentally and physically active OR living with your son/family and be just tolerated, ignored or even in certain instances downright abused (verbally and possibly even physically).

And I could go on and on…
 
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According 2 me each n evry person has emotional attachment with d place where he or she is born not only persons even animals hav attachment 2 d place where they r reard...........so same is d case with country,dese r our emotional sentiments which binds us 2 our country n v feel proud 2 b d citizens of our country.

Its not d compulsion or as sumbody above has said v dont hav ne other alternative dats y v stay with our parens ,according 2 me its our emotional attachment due 2 which v stay with them n its natural .

Thanks
 
Jyoti ji

i agree with what you want to convey in your first post, although the information/ data is very old.
But the point i would like to make here is, does it help to look down upon your own country, try through search engines for its short comings. We all know that our is country with numerous shortcomings, multitude of problems, corruption every where. But there are numerous good things in our country. Things that should make us feel proud of. I don't want to google and give a list.

देश प्रेम और देश पर गर्व, ईशवर प्रेम, भक्ति की तरह एक स्वाभाविक जज्बा है , भावना है / आप इसको किसी तराजू में तोल, नफा नुक्सान नही व्यक्त कर सकते / जिस तरह हम ईशवर भक्ति में बिना किसी सुख दुःख की विवेचना के आताम्सात हो जाते हैं या कर लेते हैं , वैसे ही भावः मातृभूमि के प्रेम में व्यक्त करने की, आतमसात करने की लगन ही आपको गौरवानित कर सकती है अन्यथा नही

मेरे बड़े भाई जब कभी घर पर हवन करते हैं तब एक भजन बड़े उत्साह और प्रेम से सुनाते हैं:

सुख भी मुझे प्यारे हैं दुःख भी मुझे प्यारे हैं,
छोडूँ में किसे भगवन दोनों ही तुम्हरे हैं !

भावः यही की जिस तरह ईशवर भक्ति में पूरा समर्पण होता है , कोई शर्त नही , कोई शिकायत नही
उशी तरह देश प्रेम एक निश्छल समर्पित भावना है / देश पर गौरवानित होने के लिए किसी शर्त , शिकवे शिकायत की कोई गुंजाईश नही !

केवल भावविहीन व्यक्ति ही ये कह सकता है की उससे उपने देश पर गौरवाभाश नही!

मुझे याद नही ये कविता , सनेही जी की है या मैथलीशरण गुप्त जी की पर में यहाँ लिखना चाहूँगा :

भरा नही जो भावों से, बहती जिस में रस धार नही
हृदय नही वो पत्थर है , जिस में स्वदेश का प्यार नही !


खुश रहो !
 
  • India is already more advanced in field of telecommunication.
  • Already work is under progress to create various corridors for linking regions for road transportation. This sector needs little more pace of work.
  • Middle class population has increased manifold
  • foreign exchange reserves are excellent
  • foreign investment is increasing at faster rate
  • There are various other economic indicators which points towards the economic progress.
  • Power sector needs attention: This problem can be solved up to a large extent if nuclear deal is signed
  • And the list goes on………………….
What abt these point:
  • Lack of education and literacy level is poor.
  • Poor infrastructure and not even rural roads even urban roads are in bad shape.
  • Foreign investment is increasing but is it making poors rich.
  • Nuclear deal can only solve upto 10% of power crisis.
  • Oil subsidy still prevails what will happen when oil subsidy will not be there.
  • 1.2 billion people but still waits for gold medal in olympics.
  • 40 crores still below povrty line how will they recover from this line.
  • Poliics still revolves around Gandhi parivaar how it can be better if it is miserable from last 60 years under this parivaar.
  • Very good in telecommuication but still youth of india lacks behind in information.
  • People still follows all these Gurus like asaram and radha swami and dera-saccha sauda and they hardly benefit them.
I just wanna point out all these drawbacks but that doesnt mean that i dont love my country or i m not proud to be a Indian, yes i m proud but still i think there are lots of things going on there still whih i also feel ashamed on.

Abhimanyu Phougat
 
Abhi Bro, Kudos to you ... Indeed a sensible reply that makes lotta sense! :)

One should be Realistic as well as Chauvinistic! period.

Rock on
Jit



What abt these point:
  • Lack of education and literacy level is poor.
  • Poor infrastructure and not even rural roads even urban roads are in bad shape.
  • Foreign investment is increasing but is it making poors rich.
  • Nuclear deal can only solve upto 10% of power crisis.
  • Oil subsidy still prevails what will happen when oil subsidy will not be there.
  • 1.2 billion people but still waits for gold medal in olympics.
  • 40 crores still below povrty line how will they recover from this line.
  • Poliics still revolves around Gandhi parivaar how it can be better if it is miserable from last 60 years under this parivaar.
  • Very good in telecommuication but still youth of india lacks behind in information.
  • People still follows all these Gurus like asaram and radha swami and dera-saccha sauda and they hardly benefit them.
I just wanna point out all these drawbacks but that doesnt mean that i dont love my country or i m not proud to be a Indian, yes i m proud but still i think there are lots of things going on there still whih i also feel ashamed on.

Abhimanyu Phougat
 
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