Women empowerment Solution or Problem?

DO you think there are more problems than the solution by women empowerment?

  • YES

    Votes: 13 27.7%
  • NO

    Votes: 18 38.3%
  • Cant Say

    Votes: 3 6.4%
  • This post is waste

    Votes: 13 27.7%

  • Total voters
    47
  • Poll closed .
Brham ji , I will appreciate for sure but who is this 'angel' with a pair of wings glued to her waist?

By the way this post is purely a feminist crap pulled out to create the gap between genders.
ahaha samar... i smell male chauvinism in your reply. folks (esp. vijay, jit, aatish, seema) may note that my previous post was an email forward. i will show up later with my opinion, but before i do tht, i wud love to see more female reactions on my forward/samar's reply post.
 
Correction

Hi,
I was just finding the issues due to women empowerment and not suggesting we should be oppressiveness to women or they should be treated differently in anyways. We can find the goodness of the women empowerment in a separate thread or in same one.

Bahut se log isko wife, maa and sister ke context mein le gaye. Can't we be more liberal and apply to general woman?
 
?????

Why don't you change the topic to "Women empowerment-a problem"....
You mean a general woman cannot be a wife, maa, sister or beti?
Hi,
I was just finding the issues due to women empowerment and not suggesting we should be oppressiveness to women or they should be treated differently in anyways. We can find the goodness of the women empowerment in a separate thread or in same one.

Bahut se log isko wife, maa and sister ke context mein le gaye. Can't we be more liberal and apply to general woman?
 
Hi,
I was just finding the issues due to women empowerment and not suggesting we should be oppressiveness to women or they should be treated differently in anyways. We can find the goodness of the women empowerment in a separate thread or in same one.

Bahut se log isko wife, maa and sister ke context mein le gaye. Can't we be more liberal and apply to general woman?

May be an off topic but sounds and looks good for general women by Haryana government. I hope everyone related to this avail it to max.

परंपरा व आधुनिकता के दोराहे पर खड़ी महिलाओं को सशक्त व स्वावलंबी बनाने के प्रति प्रदेश सरकार की संवेदनाएं व्यावहारिक पटल पर उतरने लगी हैं। अधिकाधिक बालाओं को तकनीकी शिक्षा के द्वार तक खींच लाने की खातिर अब राज्य के विभिन्न तकनीकी शिक्षण संस्थानों में पढ़ने वाली सभी छात्राओं को थोड़ा-बहुत वजीफा जरूर मिलेगा। हरियाणा स्टेट काउंसलिंग सोसाइटी के अधीन शासकीय बोर्ड की बैठक में लिए गए इस आशय के निर्णय से एमटेक, एमसीए, एमबीए, बीटेक, बीफार्मा व डिप्लोमा से जुड़ी हजारों छात्राएं लाभान्वित होंगी।

http://www4.jagran.com/main.aspx?edate=8/4/2009&editioncode=8&pageno=2#
 
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May be an off topic but sounds and looks good for general women by Haryana government. I hope everyone related to this avail it to max.

परंपरा व आधुनिकता के दोराहे पर खड़ी महिलाओं को सशक्त व स्वावलंबी बनाने के प्रति प्रदेश सरकार की संवेदनाएं व्यावहारिक पटल पर उतरने लगी हैं। अधिकाधिक बालाओं को तकनीकी शिक्षा के द्वार तक खींच लाने की खातिर अब राज्य के विभिन्न तकनीकी शिक्षण संस्थानों में पढ़ने वाली सभी छात्राओं को थोड़ा-बहुत वजीफा जरूर मिलेगा। हरियाणा स्टेट काउंसलिंग सोसाइटी के अधीन शासकीय बोर्ड की बैठक में लिए गए इस आशय के निर्णय से एमटेक, एमसीए, एमबीए, बीटेक, बीफार्मा व डिप्लोमा से जुड़ी हजारों छात्राएं लाभान्वित होंगी।

http://www4.jagran.com/main.aspx?edate=8/4/2009&editioncode=8&pageno=2#

I was just wondering whether this reservation and scholarship will merge these two ways.
 
Hi,
I was just finding the issues due to women empowerment and not suggesting we should be oppressiveness to women or they should be treated differently in anyways. We can find the goodness of the women empowerment in a separate thread or in same one.

Bahut se log isko wife, maa and sister ke context mein le gaye. Can't we be more liberal and apply to general woman?

Bhai, ye general women ke ho sei? Manne apni Maa te boojha, wah keh thi usne bhi nahi bera. Koi general women tohni padegi !!
Bhai tanne apni maa/gharaali/bebe taale mein bandh karke rakhni ho te raakh le, main to isse ulte kaam karu nahin ... pitna reh gaya.
 
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Empowerment lessen the dependency on others, hence leads to the freedom….freedom from question to be asked, any bar or restriction to be put…any compulsion to follow the false belief or custom….means have the right to live your life as you wish without the interference of others….others who…..father, brother, and husband…..First the very idea that you give freedom or empowerment to let her do what she want its wrong…who are you to give anybody freedom… It is not given by anyone… It is her birthright… you only can love somebody & get loved, cooperate somebody or get cooperated….if any woman is determined to empower herself despite resistance or hurdle created by any men…sooner or later she will defy it & achieve what she wants…

Now on relationship perspective:

But troubled situation arises… if you don’t give freedom, you start suspecting your love & attitude; if you give freedom, which you don’t want to give happily, the ego is very jealous and it will raise a thousand and one questions: “Are you not enough for your lover or beloved, that she needs freedom or company — freedom from you to be with someone else?” It hurts, and that’s why you start feeling, “I am putting myself second.” I don’t want to go deep in household’s argument arising out of the heat of empowerment…. (That is very apparent in ekta kapoor serials.)


If your love itself has come to that quality that freedom is part of it, that your beloved need not even ask your permission.... In fact, if I m the subject in the situation and my beloved is asking my permission, I would be hurt. That means she does not trust my love. My love is freedom. I have loved her; that does not mean that I should close all doors and windows so she cannot laugh with somebody else, dance with somebody else, enjoy the company of somebody else...?

Its purely a chemistry…compatibility….& trust between two souls…that keep them going together till the end…off course life is not a fairytale….relationship requires adjustment, suppressing the ego over beloved’s happiness…

The more you empower the more independent you become, the more independent u are... You seek more individuality hence lead to ambition to achieve more solely for self vanity….
 
women empowerment:
good thing: for a good hearted woman who brings people closer etc etc
Bad thing: for an evil minded woman who divides people, empower her and she will make people's lives miserable
let us think this in terms of good woman vs bad woman.
There are plenty of bad women out there. Give power to a bad woman and say alvida to your peace of mind.
:D
 
Fantasies and idealism running high ; ironical to say the least.

Nothing new though! :)
 
dear friends

first of all i would like to say thoughts become things so we shd always think +ve :)
Its just ur perception how u look at things,if you would try to find out -ve points you will get only that;)

I appreciate all friends who said +ve points and think that way and would pray for those r not able to see +ve points this time .....one day they will understand that:)

one more thing i would like to say everything either its love,joy,happiness or job,money is abundant in this world... we just need to improve our self, look at sunny side of everything, be just as enthusiastic about the success of others(either its men or women) as you r about yrs ......life would become wonderful :) even more peaceful, even more happy:)

thx with regards
Vineeta





got this mail recently somewhat touching the subject... have a look here before you opine any further.
........................

Tomorrow you may get a working woman, but you should marry her with these facts as well.

Here is a girl, who is as much educated as you are;
Who is earning almost as much as you do;

One, who has dreams and aspirations just as
you have because she is as human as you are;

One, who has never entered the kitchen in her life just like you or your
Sister haven't, as she was busy in studies and competing in a system
that gives no special concession to girls for their culinary achievements

One, who has lived and loved her parents & brothers & sisters, almost as
much as you do for 20-25 years of her life;

One, who has bravely agreed to leave behind all that, her home, people who love her,
to adopt your home, your family, your ways and even your family ,name

One, who is somehow expected to be a master-chef from day #1,
while you sleep oblivious to her predicament in her new circumstances, environment and that kitchen

One, who is expected to make the tea, first thing in the morning and cook
food at the end of the day, even if she is as tired as you are, maybe more,
and yet never ever expected to complain; to be a servant, a cook, a mother,
a wife, even if she doesn't want to; and is learning just like you are as
to what you want from her; and is clumsy and sloppy at times and
knows that you won't like it if she is too demanding, or if she learns faster than you;

One, who has her own set of friends, and that includes boys and even men at her workplace too,
those, who she knows from school days and yet is willing to put all that on the back-burners
to avoid your irrational jealousy, unnecessary competition and your inherent insecurities;

Yes, she can drink and dance just as well as you can, but won't, simply
Because you won't like it, even though you say otherwise

One, who can be late from work once in a while when
deadlines, just like yours, are to be met;

One, who is doing her level best and wants to make this most important,
relationship in her entire life a grand success, if you just help her some
and trust her;

One, who just wants one thing from you, as you are the only one she knows in your entire house...
your unstinted support, your sensitivities and most importantly - your understanding, or love, if you may call it.

But not many guys understand this......

Please appreciate "HER"

I hope you will do...
 
The e-mail says things which are very true and quite prevalent.
And to Samar ji's comment " this post (the e-mail text) is purely a feminist crap pulled out to create the gap between genders":
well, to me it seems that it is only showing a gap which is already there and in fact encouraging people to close that gap..
 
I appreciate all friends who said +ve points and think that way and would pray for those r not able to see +ve points this time .....one day they will understand that:)

Welcome to JL.

Who are the guys that you think havea -ve points ? How do you define negative? (relative to your perception i guess !).


Anju , one more nice "fantasy related" word for you , and seems to have some action involved as well ;) , "PRAY" , better than hope and wish ;) Righto ?
 
dear friend

plz have a look on poll results .... you will get ur ans :)

Vineeta



Welcome to JL.

Who are the guys that you think havea -ve points ? How do you define negative? (relative to your perception i guess !).


Anju , one more nice "fantasy related" word for you , and seems to have some action involved as well ;) , "PRAY" , better than hope and wish ;) Righto ?
 
dear friend

plz have a look on poll results .... you will get ur ans :)

Vineeta


Dear Friend,

When i click on the poll result , I get Yes : 5 , No as 9 , cant say : 2 , this post is waste : 8 , no names though!
Am i missing something ? :(

In any case i asked for your opinion / perception.

:)


Thanks,
Anil
 
Welcome to JL.

Who are the guys that you think havea -ve points ? How do you define negative? (relative to your perception i guess !).


Anju , one more nice "fantasy related" word for you , and seems to have some action involved as well ;) , "PRAY" , better than hope and wish ;) Righto ?

Ohhh… Arth shastri or lal bahadur shastri…..can u define what is positive then….now from looking at your photo you look not less then 35 year old…and statistic or fact may say otherwise….who do I trust …your statistics or my perception…..:rolleyes:

Do you think there are more problems than the solution by women empowerment?

According to poll result: 10 says against the statement, 6 in favor, 2 cant say & according to 8 this post is waste.( I appreciate those one)

Now 10 says NO in response of a negative question (sentence) asked. Hope most of the person see problem (more problems) as negative except Deepak chopra or some enlightened souls even sudipacharya think problems are opportunities. Now you multiply two minus it become plus means positive. Now you must have understood Vineeta’s response when she says about positive response.

Now if questioned would have phrased in other way...Do you think there is no problem by women empowerment?

Now how will you interprets the answer….all the previous NO becomes Yes now.

Now don’t run your horses of permutation & combination…let them rest they seems very tired. You will not get entry in disco next time too….rest…rejuvenates for some time in spa…

I will give you more nice “fantasy related” word soon…..keep your finger crossed….


One’s pathetic appearance (physical) always contradicts with one’s own virtue… - Shree Shree Sudipacharya. (Great philosopher of early 21 century) ;)

 
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Why only girls????

got this mail recently somewhat touching the subject... have a look here before you opine any further.
........................

Tomorrow you may get a working woman, but you should marry her with these facts as well.

Here is a girl, who is as much educated as you are;
Who is earning almost as much as you do;

One, who has dreams and aspirations just as
you have because she is as human as you are;

One, who has never entered the kitchen in her life just like you or your
Sister haven't, as she was busy in studies and competing in a system
that gives no special concession to girls for their culinary achievements

One, who has lived and loved her parents & brothers & sisters, almost as
much as you do for 20-25 years of her life;

One, who has bravely agreed to leave behind all that, her home, people who love her,
to adopt your home, your family, your ways and even your family ,name

One, who is somehow expected to be a master-chef from day #1,
while you sleep oblivious to her predicament in her new circumstances, environment and that kitchen

One, who is expected to make the tea, first thing in the morning and cook
food at the end of the day, even if she is as tired as you are, maybe more,
and yet never ever expected to complain; to be a servant, a cook, a mother,
a wife, even if she doesn't want to; and is learning just like you are as
to what you want from her; and is clumsy and sloppy at times and
knows that you won't like it if she is too demanding, or if she learns faster than you;

One, who has her own set of friends, and that includes boys and even men at her workplace too,
those, who she knows from school days and yet is willing to put all that on the back-burners
to avoid your irrational jealousy, unnecessary competition and your inherent insecurities;

Yes, she can drink and dance just as well as you can, but won't, simply
Because you won't like it, even though you say otherwise

One, who can be late from work once in a while when
deadlines, just like yours, are to be met;

One, who is doing her level best and wants to make this most important,
relationship in her entire life a grand success, if you just help her some
and trust her;

One, who just wants one thing from you, as you are the only one she knows in your entire house...
your unstinted support, your sensitivities and most importantly - your understanding, or love, if you may call it.

But not many guys understand this......

Please appreciate "HER"

I hope you will do...

Sir Ji,

Just wanted to know why all appreciation goes to women only? Its not just women who work, men also work hard for their carrier (infact nowadays we can see clearly the edge given to girls in almost all the fields compared to men; so more hard work for men).

Only women don't leave their homes, its men also. Again in today's world there are more n more nuclear families and men and women get equal chance to meet their parents.

Only women don't work in kitchen. If women is working men have to do thier share of house chores else you know the big fight....;) (Main kamati hun, main kaam nai karungi, though men never say this thing that I earn so I wont take you out to women).

If women are mothers, sisters, wives, etc... then men also are fathers, brothers, husbands (but I never have never seen or heard such good things about men and why??? I dont know)

In which world is the writer of that mail living? Its long time back when women were treated like servants.

If men work 15 hours a day, its nothing but if a women work 15 hours a day, different knid of mails start coming look how much she is working.

If 100 men clear IAS, IITs, IIMs exams thats no news but if even a single girl come even in top 1000, thats breaking news.

If men shout on or hit women, 100s of organisations comes forward to rescue her but if women hit men, men is wrong.

Women want empowerement, equality in every field but want a separte queue in railway station counter, separate quota in LS everything separte.

Last but not least, I am not against women empowerment, but I am against special treatment given to them. When men 1st started working nobody was there to treat them nicely or show them the path. Let women also do that. I will never stop them to do something. Its equal world, women are equal and so please show them equality.

PS: These are my personal views and are not meant to hear anybody's sentiments especially girls. :rolleyes:
 
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