women respect:where do we stand

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bhai hemant bura manna maniyo.....manne yo thread shayad aap jaise aadmi jo aurat ke baare mein aisa sochte hai (jaisa ki aapne upar likha tha).....ko janne ke liye shuru kiya tha....main yahi dekhna chahti thi aadmi aaj bhi kaisa sochte hai aurat ko..............
waise mujhe bhout achcha laga ki kam se kam aapme guts to hai ki aap yeh sab baatein sab ke saamne bol sake......abhi to bhout se aise log hai jo bolne ki himmat bhi nhn rakhte jabki wo aapse bhi bhadha sochte hai...........
jaisa ki aapne jo bekar ki baatein kahi upar....unse lagta hai ki agar aapki ma ko agar aapke papa marte to shayad aap yahi sochte ki aapki mom ne kuch bekar ki baat ki........bura mat maniye iss baat ka ki maine aap ki mom ka example liya....but shayad yeh baat aapko ab samajh aa jaye.......main yahan unko insult nhn ker rahi hun...bus aapko kuch realize kerwane ki koshish ker rahi hun.........
aapko kya lagta hai ki aurat kya sirf aapke ghar...aapke ma-baap....aapke bachcho ke jhote bartan maanjne ke liye hai......plzzz.....shayad aapko nhn pata ki yeh bhout hi ghatiyan soch hai aapki.........jo aapke liye pure din mahnat kerke,aapke din ke ek time ke khaane ke liye 2 ghante pehle se hi tayaari kerke aapka pait bhare...usse marna chahiye....wah...wah...wah.....bhout badiya..........
aap mein se hi kuch aise hai jo pehle to aurat ko bahar kaam kerne nhn dete or phir usse pura din kaam kerwate hai or fir keh rahe hai ki khaali padi galat hi sochegi...hadd hai....agar itni hi uske sochne se prob hai to allow karo usse bahar jaane ki...ghumne ki....aap logo ki tarah aish kerne ki....kyun nhn....
jibb tai nyu baat aa ja sai ek ya tai handori sai......badiya.....matlab tam chahe kitte bhi muh maarte hando...tai kuch nhn...per aurat ke liye saari limitations......
agar woye thapad aapke laage tai...kissa lagega.....????badiya....????agar shauk hai to to fer bvhagwan kare jaldi hi aapko iska swaad chakhne ko mille........
or yeh koi faltu ki soch nhn hai....jisne paida kare tam...uski jab tamm respect na ker sakte to to fer kuch nhn ker sakte.........
aapke liye better hai ki aap yeh soch badal de......warna aage jaake shayad yeh topic aap shuru kare....or wo bhi heading....
men respect:where do u stand....
samjhe aap..........agar yo din na dekhna tai start respecting a lady.......
mujhe bhout bura laga ki aap aisa sochte hai....
or aap hi nhn bhout se aise log hai jo aaj bhi aisa sochte hai per........bhout ghatiya soch hai yeh.......
 
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well after going through the thread i have a mixed openion... lemme share it with you all.

this thread also reminded me of a famous title - men are from mars... women are from venus :rolleyes: :D

Reena - i guess wot you have tried to voice out sounds to be very immature... reasons-

1. wy one has to generalise things.
2. gud or bad every socitey has same elements, like ritu bae said.
3. some things you mentioned appear to be a part of sick physchology.
4. i wonder you actually belive in all wot you said. plz share if you have been subjected to such treatments, megrley quoting all this coz of "I FEEL" factor dosent satisfy your statements and judgements.
5. preconcieved notions only would help u reach destruction in life.... if i may say so... u belive in gud and gud is all wot u will recieve frm life.... n that includes men.

you mean to say that sexual desires and perversion is a trade only restricted to men.... NOPES ... u r absolutely wrong... we all know how many MMS's videos of indian girls circle the web each single day... who are they... aliens??

seat in bus - tou bhai jisko dikkat ho mat baitha karo uss seat par... yea tou suna tha akk ladka seat isliyea offer karta ho ki he wants to impress... this is the latest addition to my info..

and many more things

Reena my sincere advices - - plz take out this hatred for men from your mind.. it would benefit you a lot in future...

hemant - on certian things i agree to you... but then disagree also.... voilence is not the answer... though i agree voilence does happen and at times it is uncontrolabble.... also the thing i liked in your post is - respect is something you get / earn and not snatch... woh snatch waali waah aae howe sei akk muh pae polite arr pacchhe tae gaali... if any girl is dreaming for that kind of respect she may hurt her own life... whoose losss????:rolleyes: :D

I WOULD like to ask all - byah maraan (HITTING) tahi karya tha key.... naaa nahi karya thaa....... buttt.... byah naas thawan tahi bhi konya karvaya tha... arrr kaun karrey sei bhai naas ka suagat... yeah baatey kehene mei acchhi lagti hai... practically nahi.... name one man who married to hit.... hahahhahaa... yea muhawara sei jibb do pariwaaro mei baat hoya karrey suljhaade khattar.... arr abb yuo bhi generealise ho liya sei ....

jitni jaroorat aek aurat ko rishtaey ki hoti hai utni hi aek admi ko bhi hoti hai... (THE NEED HAS TO BE EQUAL - FOR A PERFECT RELATIONSHIP) the day one realises that thers nothing more or nothing less .... life is a bed of roses...


manjeeta - MEN is a breed that dosent only include your friends / boyfriends / classmates... they are a integral part of your life in roles of your brother / husband / father... should you be feeling same for them... its O.K. carry on... not your fault then... if not then plz do not generalise things... KEY THAAA LIYA TERRA UNNN CHORRYA NAE.. you dont sound to have met every single male on this earth to be judgemental.

vivek - u know i agree wid u also.... hahahaha;) :D

vikas - yeah man u rite... every river has two sides to it... so why complain..

sumit - even am a excelent cook...:D n no woman has ever satisfied my taste buds tooo.. haaan kaha bahut baar hoga ... juss to motivate them or to genuinely thank them for effort and luv shown... but then if thers a woman whoose a homemaker wots wrong in expecting her to work...?/// rather it should not be expected... the day one starts expecting.. things start to turn BAD... rather its mutual in that case ... coz a family is run by both a husband and a wife and the moment 1 of the 2 dosent does execute his/her responsiblity properly... problems are natural to arise...

A KAAMWAALI BAI is a fashion statement in india........... WHY... yess if a women is working and like a man cant do house hold chores she shouldnt aswell or if shes ill or have physical problems its all gud.. but i dot see any point a HOMEMAKER lady having assistence of all sorts... all she would achive is bad health.. and bad health is a step for a bad state of mind and further more to bad relationship.... "khallli dimaag shaitaan ka ghar" - this is in reffrence to normal indian household... also how many americans or westren ppl have domestic help.... not even .5%... dont we have homemaker women out there - COST IS NOT THE ONLY CONCERN - as few would have jumped to conclusion... hehehehehe

MY take - we all are humans and not "SUPER HUMANS" so we should be just worried about our duties and responsiblities in our own lives and the ppl around you would be happy automatically... like - - thamm apna kaaam karoo aur doosroo ko apna karan dyo..

at times i feel little out of the place - kahi suno nari shakti ki buland awaaz and kahi par complaning and bechari figure... wy dont these ppl educate women to earn respect instead of claming for it..also the same ppl should come forward and eductae all sick men also... after all working just wid women cant help this issue... yaaaa tae waah aae baat hogi akk chahiyea sabbb kimm arr karna khuch nahi... bhai poorana principle hai - aek haath dyo arr doosre haath lyo...

+ this women issue is just like caste / land politics in india and politicions seem to earn a rich bread out of this too... the only harm is that in place of our women getting enlightened they are becoming more offensive which is certianlly not good for the socitey... wot do ppl say on this????

according to me a CONSTRUCTIVE AND POSITIVE APPROACH CAN ONLY HELP

LAST - WHY THIS SEXUAL DIVIDE - just like cast / creed / nationality / relegion this divide will hurt our allready ailing socitey a lot... i wonder WHO ARE THE PEOPLE CREATING THIS AND WOT DO THEY ACHIVE.. lets spread peace love harmony.

I may have sounded to be suggestive in this post many a times - it just says my mind on this topic and again plz plz dont be judgemental and am no preacher....... :)
 
bhai hemant bura manna maniyo.....manne yo thread shayad aap jaise aadmi jo aurat ke baare mein aisa sochte hai (jaisa ki aapne upar likha tha).....ko janne ke liye shuru kiya tha....main yahi dekhna chahti thi aadmi aaj bhi kaisa sochte hai aurat ko..............
waise mujhe bhout achcha laga ki kam se kam aapme guts to hai ki aap yeh sab baatein sab ke saamne bol sake......abhi to bhout se aise log hai jo bolne ki himmat bhi nhn rakhte jabki wo aapse bhi bhadha sochte hai...........
jaisa ki aapne jo bekar ki baatein kahi upar....unse lagta hai ki agar aapki ma ko agar aapke papa marte to shayad aap yahi sochte ki aapki mom ne kuch bekar ki baat ki........bura mat maniye iss baat ka ki maine aap ki mom ka example liya....but shayad yeh baat aapko ab samajh aa jaye.......main yahan unko insult nhn ker rahi hun...bus aapko kuch realize kerwane ki koshish ker rahi hun.........
aapko kya lagta hai ki aurat kya sirf aapke ghar...aapke ma-baap....aapke bachcho ke jhote bartan maanjne ke liye hai......plzzz.....shayad aapko nhn pata ki yeh bhout hi ghatiyan soch hai aapki.........jo aapke liye pure din mahnat kerke,aapke din ke ek time ke khaane ke liye 2 ghante pehle se hi tayaari kerke aapka pait bhare...usse marna chahiye....wah...wah...wah.....bhout badiya..........
aap mein se hi kuch aise hai jo pehle to aurat ko bahar kaam kerne nhn dete or phir usse pura din kaam kerwate hai or fir keh rahe hai ki khaali padi galat hi sochegi...hadd hai....agar itni hi uske sochne se prob hai to allow karo usse bahar jaane ki...ghumne ki....aap logo ki tarah aish kerne ki....kyun nhn....
jibb tai nyu baat aa ja sai ek ya tai handori sai......badiya.....matlab tam chahe kitte bhi muh maarte hando...tai kuch nhn...per aurat ke liye saari limitations......
agar woye thapad aapke laage tai...kissa lagega.....????badiya....????agar shauk hai to to fer bvhagwan kare jaldi hi aapko iska swaad chakhne ko mille........
or yeh koi faltu ki soch nhn hai....jisne paida kare tam...uski jab tamm respect na ker sakte to to fer kuch nhn ker sakte.........
aapke liye better hai ki aap yeh soch badal de......warna aage jaake shayad yeh topic aap shuru kare....or wo bhi heading....
men reapect:where do u stand....
samjhe aap..........agar yo din na dekhna tai start respecting a lady.......
mujhe bhout bura laga ki aap aisa sochte hai....
or aap hi nhn bhout se aise log hai jo aaj bhi aisa sochte hai per........bhout ghatiya soch hai yeh.......

Reena, you misunderstood it...no problem, i will write you again something, but before this i would like to know what kind of respect you are looking for for women from men? is there any specific requirement and/or desire from you on women respect? it would be helpful.
 
Bravo !

Well Done Reena, Very firm reply,,,, this is what I meant.

bhai hemant bura manna maniyo.....manne yo thread shayad aap jaise aadmi jo aurat ke baare mein aisa sochte hai (jaisa ki aapne upar likha tha).....ko janne ke liye shuru kiya tha....main yahi dekhna chahti thi aadmi aaj bhi kaisa sochte hai aurat ko..............
waise mujhe bhout achcha laga ki kam se kam aapme guts to hai ki aap yeh sab baatein sab ke saamne bol sake......abhi to bhout se aise log hai jo bolne ki himmat bhi nhn rakhte jabki wo aapse bhi bhadha sochte hai...........
jaisa ki aapne jo bekar ki baatein kahi upar....unse lagta hai ki agar aapki ma ko agar aapke papa marte to shayad aap yahi sochte ki aapki mom ne kuch bekar ki baat ki........bura mat maniye iss baat ka ki maine aap ki mom ka example liya....but shayad yeh baat aapko ab samajh aa jaye.......main yahan unko insult nhn ker rahi hun...bus aapko kuch realize kerwane ki koshish ker rahi hun.........
aapko kya lagta hai ki aurat kya sirf aapke ghar...aapke ma-baap....aapke bachcho ke jhote bartan maanjne ke liye hai......plzzz.....shayad aapko nhn pata ki yeh bhout hi ghatiyan soch hai aapki.........jo aapke liye pure din mahnat kerke,aapke din ke ek time ke khaane ke liye 2 ghante pehle se hi tayaari kerke aapka pait bhare...usse marna chahiye....wah...wah...wah.....bhout badiya..........
aap mein se hi kuch aise hai jo pehle to aurat ko bahar kaam kerne nhn dete or phir usse pura din kaam kerwate hai or fir keh rahe hai ki khaali padi galat hi sochegi...hadd hai....agar itni hi uske sochne se prob hai to allow karo usse bahar jaane ki...ghumne ki....aap logo ki tarah aish kerne ki....kyun nhn....
jibb tai nyu baat aa ja sai ek ya tai handori sai......badiya.....matlab tam chahe kitte bhi muh maarte hando...tai kuch nhn...per aurat ke liye saari limitations......
agar woye thapad aapke laage tai...kissa lagega.....????badiya....????agar shauk hai to to fer bvhagwan kare jaldi hi aapko iska swaad chakhne ko mille........
or yeh koi faltu ki soch nhn hai....jisne paida kare tam...uski jab tamm respect na ker sakte to to fer kuch nhn ker sakte.........
aapke liye better hai ki aap yeh soch badal de......warna aage jaake shayad yeh topic aap shuru kare....or wo bhi heading....
men respect:where do u stand....
samjhe aap..........agar yo din na dekhna tai start respecting a lady.......
mujhe bhout bura laga ki aap aisa sochte hai....
or aap hi nhn bhout se aise log hai jo aaj bhi aisa sochte hai per........bhout ghatiya soch hai yeh.......
 
bhai sandesh tanne kayi baatein katti sahi ki sai.......
main na to psycologically pagal hun na hi kuch or.....it was just i read abt this topic somewhere and just thought abt knowing the views of others.....isliye thread post kiya tha......
or rahi baat mere saath kuch galat hone ki to aisa kuch nhn hai....yeh aapse kisne kaha ki jab koi uss cheez ko experience kerte hai tabhi aap kuch uske baare mein keh sakte hai.....sorry bhai...but aap yahan galat hai....
rahi baat ghar baithne ki ......to shayad yeh aadmi ki hi ghatiya mentality hoti hai ki ladkiyon ko mat padao....gaon mein or abhi bhi kayi gharo mein aadmi hi yeh decision leta hai ki bus ladko ko padao.......to bechari ladki kahan jaye....kya kare.....jab itni educated hi nhn hai ki job ker sake to kya kare.....or kayi to educated hai tab bhi aisa hota hai unke saath....or ye kisne kaha ki agar aurat ghar per baithi ho to wo bekaar hi sochegi...aise to aap log bhi offices mein konsa teer maarte ho....aap log bhi to nithalle baithe rehte ho.....aadhe time net per...ha ha ha......bhai aurat agar itni hi bawali baat kerti ke usne peeto...to wa ghar na chala sakti thi........samjhe....
aapki bhout si baatein sahi hai....i totally agree to them.........but bhai bhout se aise bhi hai jo hamare beech mein hai jo sach mein isse bhi bura sochte hai aurat ke baare mein............
or haan main maanti hun ki ladkiyan bhi bhout jagah galat hoti hai....but aap khud yeh baat sochiyega.....ki jiss ladki ki jo MMS video banayi gayi thi....wo bhi kissi ladke ne hi dhoke se lee thi.......or aaj jitni bhi ladkiyan prostitutes hai na wo sab bhi kissi na kissi majboori ke karan hai(approx).......or unhe wahan khada kerne wala bhi wahan ek koi na koi aadmi hi hai....samjhe aap..........
aurat ko sudharne se pehle admi ko khud sudharna padega.........wo aadmi ker nhn sakte......
 
very good

a reena tu t bebe ghani shyani likadi me t tan balak samjha karti.
bhai hemant bura manna maniyo.....manne yo thread shayad aap jaise aadmi jo aurat ke baare mein aisa sochte hai (jaisa ki aapne upar likha tha).....ko janne ke liye shuru kiya tha....main yahi dekhna chahti thi aadmi aaj bhi kaisa sochte hai aurat ko..............
waise mujhe bhout achcha laga ki kam se kam aapme guts to hai ki aap yeh sab baatein sab ke saamne bol sake......abhi to bhout se aise log hai jo bolne ki himmat bhi nhn rakhte jabki wo aapse bhi bhadha sochte hai...........
jaisa ki aapne jo bekar ki baatein kahi upar....unse lagta hai ki agar aapki ma ko agar aapke papa marte to shayad aap yahi sochte ki aapki mom ne kuch bekar ki baat ki........bura mat maniye iss baat ka ki maine aap ki mom ka example liya....but shayad yeh baat aapko ab samajh aa jaye.......main yahan unko insult nhn ker rahi hun...bus aapko kuch realize kerwane ki koshish ker rahi hun.........
aapko kya lagta hai ki aurat kya sirf aapke ghar...aapke ma-baap....aapke bachcho ke jhote bartan maanjne ke liye hai......plzzz.....shayad aapko nhn pata ki yeh bhout hi ghatiyan soch hai aapki.........jo aapke liye pure din mahnat kerke,aapke din ke ek time ke khaane ke liye 2 ghante pehle se hi tayaari kerke aapka pait bhare...usse marna chahiye....wah...wah...wah.....bhout badiya..........
aap mein se hi kuch aise hai jo pehle to aurat ko bahar kaam kerne nhn dete or phir usse pura din kaam kerwate hai or fir keh rahe hai ki khaali padi galat hi sochegi...hadd hai....agar itni hi uske sochne se prob hai to allow karo usse bahar jaane ki...ghumne ki....aap logo ki tarah aish kerne ki....kyun nhn....
jibb tai nyu baat aa ja sai ek ya tai handori sai......badiya.....matlab tam chahe kitte bhi muh maarte hando...tai kuch nhn...per aurat ke liye saari limitations......
agar woye thapad aapke laage tai...kissa lagega.....????badiya....????agar shauk hai to to fer bvhagwan kare jaldi hi aapko iska swaad chakhne ko mille........
or yeh koi faltu ki soch nhn hai....jisne paida kare tam...uski jab tamm respect na ker sakte to to fer kuch nhn ker sakte.........
aapke liye better hai ki aap yeh soch badal de......warna aage jaake shayad yeh topic aap shuru kare....or wo bhi heading....
men respect:where do u stand....
samjhe aap..........agar yo din na dekhna tai start respecting a lady.......
mujhe bhout bura laga ki aap aisa sochte hai....
or aap hi nhn bhout se aise log hai jo aaj bhi aisa sochte hai per........bhout ghatiya soch hai yeh.......
 
for hemant bhai---------
which u men luk for.......the same kind of respect we women luk for......

i dont know if, men, in general look for respect or not. but if it is me, i dont look for, i know who respect me and who dont...and, in fact respect is not in our hands, apko kisi ne pasand kiya to apko wo respect dega, otherwise nahi dega simple...kisi ko apki koi baat buri lag gayi to wo apko respect nahi dega...does it make sense?...

ummm...chalo gaon me ladakiyon ko pada likha diya...khooob padaya likhaya...--> ho gaya respect ladakiyon ka?

then, job karne dya ---> ho gaya respect ladakiyon ka?

then, ghar pe ladayii hui lekin ladaki ko kuchh nahi kaha, nahi mara jhapad...----> ho gaya respect?

is this the way you think respect should come to a girl?

tumne bahut achcha reply kiya mujhe, aur tumko 2 bahut achche support bhi mile...neelam aur ritu se...ye wo hi cheej he jis tarah se tum girls log excite hoke ...ye woman respect wala nara uncha karne ki sochti ho...jo ki galat he...ladakiyon ko gaon me nahi paya likhaya, unko pada likha ke job nahi karne diya, aur unko mara kabhi kabhi ...ye koi baat nahi hui repect pane wali...already he girls ke liye respect bhai...you will have to find and satisfy with that, otherwise...nobody can give you the exact answer for the respect you demanded...
 
maine aapse kya kaha......ki jo men ko chahiye wahi women ko.......aap jab respect word ka matlab hi nhn jaante to achcha hoga ki aap jawab na de........or yeh naare nhn hai....sorry..."naare" word ka bhi matlab aap pehle dictionary mein dekh ke aayiye ga.........
or ab aap plz mujhse iska matlab mat puchiyega.......main aapko nhn samjha sakti.......
 
bhai hemant bura manna maniyo.....manne yo thread shayad aap jaise aadmi jo aurat ke baare mein aisa sochte hai (jaisa ki aapne upar likha tha).....ko janne ke liye shuru kiya tha....main yahi dekhna chahti thi aadmi aaj bhi kaisa sochte hai aurat ko..............

admi hamesa se achcha sochte hain woman ke baare me...but you kind of girls never realised, and that is the reason you wanted to check thinking of men for women.

waise mujhe bhout achcha laga ki kam se kam aapme guts to hai ki aap yeh sab baatein sab ke saamne bol sake......abhi to bhout se aise log hai jo bolne ki himmat bhi nhn rakhte jabki wo aapse bhi bhadha sochte hai...........

reena, yaha pe likhe hui sab bato se blindly kisi ke baare me judge nahi karna chahiye...may be somebody is predenting to be good and gentle

jaisa ki aapne jo bekar ki baatein kahi upar....unse lagta hai ki agar aapki ma ko agar aapke papa marte to shayad aap yahi sochte ki aapki mom ne kuch bekar ki baat ki........

bekar ki baatain nahi thi, tumhare liye bekar ki thi kyon ki tum ye sunna hi nahi chahati ho...tum ye sunna chahati ho ki ladakiyo ko padao likhao unko bada banao, etc etc...matlab ki excessive insincere praise...i admit ki kabhi aisa hua hoga to in most of the cases she could have done something so wrong which should not have done...
ab jaise tum yadi byav ke baad bhi aise hi intense detestation rakhogi to kaise kaam chalega ghar pe batao?...tum hamesa kuchh ajeeb si jid karogi...jo tumko nahi karni chahiye...tum hamesa bahar karogi baat baat pe...aur obviously ...divorce ki baat bhi tum hi karogi pahale yadi aisi koi condition ati he to...GALAT HE YE TUMHARI MARRIED LIFE KE LIYE...

bura mat maniye iss baat ka ki maine aap ki mom ka example liya....but shayad yeh baat aapko ab samajh aa jaye.......main yahan unko insult nhn ker rahi hun...bus aapko kuch realize kerwane ki koshish ker rahi hun.........

mene koi bura nahi mana tumhari baat ka bhai, dont worry...
thank you for realising me some new concepts of life...which i did not know before...:)

aapko kya lagta hai ki aurat kya sirf aapke ghar...aapke ma-baap....aapke bachcho ke jhote bartan maanjne ke liye hai......plzzz.....shayad aapko nhn pata ki yeh bhout hi ghatiyan soch hai aapki.........jo aapke liye pure din mahnat kerke,aapke din ke ek time ke khaane ke liye 2 ghante pehle se hi tayaari kerke aapka pait bhare...usse marna chahiye....wah...wah...wah.....bhout badiya..........

GALAT...aapke ghar nagi hamara ghar okay?...i mentioned it here because, this is the kind of thinking you girls have even after several years in your married life...and this is a kind of reason which causes disturbances in your married life, you know...ghar apka nahi...shadi ke baad hamara ho jata he, bachche apke nahi hamare hote hain...dhyaan rakhna...aur ghar ka kaam karna aur bachcho ke jhoothe bartan manjna hamara kaam hota he bachcho ka nahi...(i love this childish reply hahaha..)...

i am sorry if my this soch it ghatiya...i would not change it though.

fir se ajeeb se socha tumne reena, mera kahane ka matlab ye nahi tha ki girls ko sara time mara jana chahiye...ho sakta he aisa kabhi kabhi...dono taraf se ho sakta he aisa...AUR NAHI TO REENA BYAV MAT KARNA TUM, CO-EDUCATION TYPE KE HOSTEL ME KISI BOY KE SATH ME RAH LENA...JO MARJI HO KARO, NA TO KOI KISI KO KUCHH KAHEGA, NA BACHCHO KE BARTAN DHONE PADENGE, NA KHANA BANANA PADEGA, NA GHAR KA KAAM KARNA PADEGA...KOI PROBLEM HI NAHI HOGI...YOU WILL GET YOU RESPECT IVENTUALLY:rolleyes:

aap mein se hi kuch aise hai jo pehle to aurat ko bahar kaam kerne nhn dete or phir usse pura din kaam kerwate hai or fir keh rahe hai ki khaali padi galat hi sochegi...hadd hai....agar itni hi uske sochne se prob hai to allow karo usse bahar jaane ki...ghumne ki....aap logo ki tarah aish kerne ki....kyun nhn....
jibb tai nyu baat aa ja sai ek ya tai handori sai......badiya.....matlab tam chahe kitte bhi muh maarte hando...tai kuch nhn...per aurat ke liye saari limitations......

who told you all these kind of stuffs?...tumhari friends ne?...
ha lekin kuchh limitations honi chahiye girls pe...NAHI TO AMRICAN HO JAOGE APNE HI DESH ME REENA...baki apni apni ichchha hoti he...mere ghar me to jo ayegi us se me ghar ke kaam jaroor karwaunga...me bhi karunga of course...baki circumstances pe depend karta hai ki tumhari bhabhi ko job karna he ki nahi...lekin ghar sambhalna meri preference hogi :cool:

agar woye thapad aapke laage tai...kissa lagega.....????badiya....????agar shauk hai to to fer bvhagwan kare jaldi hi aapko iska swaad chakhne ko mille........

me bhi jaldi se byav karne ki soch to raha hoon... :p

or yeh koi faltu ki soch nhn hai....jisne paida kare tam...uski jab tamm
respect na ker sakte to to fer kuch nhn ker sakte.........

respect, respect, respect, respect, respect, respect, respect,....aise respect nahi hota...respect ko kahane ki jaroorat nahi honi chahiye, i suppose.

aapke liye better hai ki aap yeh soch badal de......warna aage jaake shayad yeh topic aap shuru kare....or wo bhi heading....
men respect:where do u stand....
samjhe aap..........agar yo din na dekhna tai start respecting a lady.......
mujhe bhout bura laga ki aap aisa sochte hai....
or aap hi nhn bhout se aise log hai jo aaj bhi aisa sochte hai per........bhout ghatiya soch hai yeh.......

i dont need to change myself. we will see if start this heading in future...but you will have to be here on jatland long life...to check, if i do this you would be having ample chances to express your *changed* views, which time could have modified by then.

i am sorry apko bura laga...achcha laga ye malum hoke ki my soch is ghatiya...
 
admi hamesa se achcha sochte hain woman ke baare me...but you kind of girls never realised, and that is the reason you wanted to check thinking of men for women.



reena, yaha pe likhe hui sab bato se blindly kisi ke baare me judge nahi karna chahiye...may be somebody is predenting to be good and gentle



bekar ki baatain nahi thi, tumhare liye bekar ki thi kyon ki tum ye sunna hi nahi chahati ho...tum ye sunna chahati ho ki ladakiyo ko padao likhao unko bada banao, etc etc...matlab ki excessive insincere praise...i admit ki kabhi aisa hua hoga to in most of the cases she could have done something so wrong which should not have done...
ab jaise tum yadi byav ke baad bhi aise hi intense detestation rakhogi to kaise kaam chalega ghar pe batao?...tum hamesa kuchh ajeeb si jid karogi...jo tumko nahi karni chahiye...tum hamesa bahar karogi baat baat pe...aur obviously ...divorce ki baat bhi tum hi karogi pahale yadi aisi koi condition ati he to...GALAT HE YE TUMHARI MARRIED LIFE KE LIYE...



mene koi bura nahi mana tumhari baat ka bhai, dont worry...
thank you for realising me some new concepts of life...which i did not know before...:)



GALAT...aapke ghar nagi hamara ghar okay?...i mentioned it here because, this is the kind of thinking you girls have even after several years in your married life...and this is a kind of reason which causes disturbances in your married life, you know...ghar apka nahi...shadi ke baad hamara ho jata he, bachche apke nahi hamare hote hain...dhyaan rakhna...aur ghar ka kaam karna aur bachcho ke jhoothe bartan manjna hamara kaam hota he bachcho ka nahi...(i love this childish reply hahaha..)...

i am sorry if my this soch it ghatiya...i would not change it though.

fir se ajeeb se socha tumne reena, mera kahane ka matlab ye nahi tha ki girls ko sara time mara jana chahiye...ho sakta he aisa kabhi kabhi...dono taraf se ho sakta he aisa...AUR NAHI TO REENA BYAV MAT KARNA TUM, CO-EDUCATION TYPE KE HOSTEL ME KISI BOY KE SATH ME RAH LENA...JO MARJI HO KARO, NA TO KOI KISI KO KUCHH KAHEGA, NA BACHCHO KE BARTAN DHONE PADENGE, NA KHANA BANANA PADEGA, NA GHAR KA KAAM KARNA PADEGA...KOI PROBLEM HI NAHI HOGI...YOU WILL GET YOU RESPECT IVENTUALLY:rolleyes:



who told you all these kind of stuffs?...tumhari friends ne?...
ha lekin kuchh limitations honi chahiye girls pe...NAHI TO AMRICAN HO JAOGE APNE HI DESH ME REENA...baki apni apni ichchha hoti he...mere ghar me to jo ayegi us se me ghar ke kaam jaroor karwaunga...me bhi karunga of course...baki circumstances pe depend karta hai ki tumhari bhabhi ko job karna he ki nahi...lekin ghar sambhalna meri preference hogi :cool:



me bhi jaldi se byav karne ki soch to raha hoon... :p



respect, respect, respect, respect, respect, respect, respect,....aise respect nahi hota...respect ko kahane ki jaroorat nahi honi chahiye, i suppose.



i dont need to change myself. we will see if start this heading in future...but you will have to be here on jatland long life...to check, if i do this you would be having ample chances to express your *changed* views, which time could have modified by then.

i am sorry apko bura laga...achcha laga ye malum hoke ki my soch is ghatiya...

Bhai haath judwaa ley....Galati ho gayi.....Maaf kardey my baap....
 
maine aapse kya kaha......ki jo men ko chahiye wahi women ko.......aap jab respect word ka matlab hi nhn jaante to achcha hoga ki aap jawab na de........or yeh naare nhn hai....sorry..."naare" word ka bhi matlab aap pehle dictionary mein dekh ke aayiye ga.........
or ab aap plz mujhse iska matlab mat puchiyega.......main aapko nhn samjha sakti.......

TERRIFIC...bhailogo reena ko respect do jaldi se...he kisi ke paas me?...dekho kahi pada hoga pocket wocket me...hahaah...

i know respect, but i am sorry i could not interpret your meaning of respect...fine, i will not ask you again...dont worry :)
 
well after going through the thread i have a mixed openion... lemme share it with you all.

this thread also reminded me of a famous title - men are from mars... women are from venus :rolleyes: :D

Reena - i guess wot you have tried to voice out sounds to be very immature... reasons-

1. wy one has to generalise things.
2. gud or bad every socitey has same elements, like ritu bae said.
3. some things you mentioned appear to be a part of sick physchology.
4. i wonder you actually belive in all wot you said. plz share if you have been subjected to such treatments, megrley quoting all this coz of "I FEEL" factor dosent satisfy your statements and judgements.
5. preconcieved notions only would help u reach destruction in life.... if i may say so... u belive in gud and gud is all wot u will recieve frm life.... n that includes men.

you mean to say that sexual desires and perversion is a trade only restricted to men.... NOPES ... u r absolutely wrong... we all know how many MMS's videos of indian girls circle the web each single day... who are they... aliens??

seat in bus - tou bhai jisko dikkat ho mat baitha karo uss seat par... yea tou suna tha akk ladka seat isliyea offer karta ho ki he wants to impress... this is the latest addition to my info..

and many more things

Reena my sincere advices - - plz take out this hatred for men from your mind.. it would benefit you a lot in future...

hemant - on certian things i agree to you... but then disagree also.... voilence is not the answer... though i agree voilence does happen and at times it is uncontrolabble.... also the thing i liked in your post is - respect is something you get / earn and not snatch... woh snatch waali waah aae howe sei akk muh pae polite arr pacchhe tae gaali... if any girl is dreaming for that kind of respect she may hurt her own life... whoose losss????:rolleyes: :D

I WOULD like to ask all - byah maraan (HITTING) tahi karya tha key.... naaa nahi karya thaa....... buttt.... byah naas thawan tahi bhi konya karvaya tha... arrr kaun karrey sei bhai naas ka suagat... yeah baatey kehene mei acchhi lagti hai... practically nahi.... name one man who married to hit.... hahahhahaa... yea muhawara sei jibb do pariwaaro mei baat hoya karrey suljhaade khattar.... arr abb yuo bhi generealise ho liya sei ....

jitni jaroorat aek aurat ko rishtaey ki hoti hai utni hi aek admi ko bhi hoti hai... (THE NEED HAS TO BE EQUAL - FOR A PERFECT RELATIONSHIP) the day one realises that thers nothing more or nothing less .... life is a bed of roses...


manjeeta - MEN is a breed that dosent only include your friends / boyfriends / classmates... they are a integral part of your life in roles of your brother / husband / father... should you be feeling same for them... its O.K. carry on... not your fault then... if not then plz do not generalise things... KEY THAAA LIYA TERRA UNNN CHORRYA NAE.. you dont sound to have met every single male on this earth to be judgemental.

vivek - u know i agree wid u also.... hahahaha;) :D

vikas - yeah man u rite... every river has two sides to it... so why complain..

sumit - even am a excelent cook...:D n no woman has ever satisfied my taste buds tooo.. haaan kaha bahut baar hoga ... juss to motivate them or to genuinely thank them for effort and luv shown... but then if thers a woman whoose a homemaker wots wrong in expecting her to work...?/// rather it should not be expected... the day one starts expecting.. things start to turn BAD... rather its mutual in that case ... coz a family is run by both a husband and a wife and the moment 1 of the 2 dosent does execute his/her responsiblity properly... problems are natural to arise...

A KAAMWAALI BAI is a fashion statement in india........... WHY... yess if a women is working and like a man cant do house hold chores she shouldnt aswell or if shes ill or have physical problems its all gud.. but i dot see any point a HOMEMAKER lady having assistence of all sorts... all she would achive is bad health.. and bad health is a step for a bad state of mind and further more to bad relationship.... "khallli dimaag shaitaan ka ghar" - this is in reffrence to normal indian household... also how many americans or westren ppl have domestic help.... not even .5%... dont we have homemaker women out there - COST IS NOT THE ONLY CONCERN - as few would have jumped to conclusion... hehehehehe

MY take - we all are humans and not "SUPER HUMANS" so we should be just worried about our duties and responsiblities in our own lives and the ppl around you would be happy automatically... like - - thamm apna kaaam karoo aur doosroo ko apna karan dyo..

at times i feel little out of the place - kahi suno nari shakti ki buland awaaz and kahi par complaning and bechari figure... wy dont these ppl educate women to earn respect instead of claming for it..also the same ppl should come forward and eductae all sick men also... after all working just wid women cant help this issue... yaaaa tae waah aae baat hogi akk chahiyea sabbb kimm arr karna khuch nahi... bhai poorana principle hai - aek haath dyo arr doosre haath lyo...

+ this women issue is just like caste / land politics in india and politicions seem to earn a rich bread out of this too... the only harm is that in place of our women getting enlightened they are becoming more offensive which is certianlly not good for the socitey... wot do ppl say on this????

according to me a CONSTRUCTIVE AND POSITIVE APPROACH CAN ONLY HELP

LAST - WHY THIS SEXUAL DIVIDE - just like cast / creed / nationality / relegion this divide will hurt our allready ailing socitey a lot... i wonder WHO ARE THE PEOPLE CREATING THIS AND WOT DO THEY ACHIVE.. lets spread peace love harmony.

I may have sounded to be suggestive in this post many a times - it just says my mind on this topic and again plz plz dont be judgemental and am no preacher....... :)

Equally balanced thoughts. Essence of the thread.

I just want to say one thing here : Respect must be earned but should not desirded :)
 
Well done

bhai hemant bura manna maniyo.....manne yo thread shayad aap jaise aadmi jo aurat ke baare mein aisa sochte hai (jaisa ki aapne upar likha tha).....ko janne ke liye shuru kiya tha....main yahi dekhna chahti thi aadmi aaj bhi kaisa sochte hai aurat ko..............
waise mujhe bhout achcha laga ki kam se kam aapme guts to hai ki aap yeh sab baatein sab ke saamne bol sake......abhi to bhout se aise log hai jo bolne ki himmat bhi nhn rakhte jabki wo aapse bhi bhadha sochte hai...........
jaisa ki aapne jo bekar ki baatein kahi upar....unse lagta hai ki agar aapki ma ko agar aapke papa marte to shayad aap yahi sochte ki aapki mom ne kuch bekar ki baat ki........bura mat maniye iss baat ka ki maine aap ki mom ka example liya....but shayad yeh baat aapko ab samajh aa jaye.......main yahan unko insult nhn ker rahi hun...bus aapko kuch realize kerwane ki koshish ker rahi hun.........
aapko kya lagta hai ki aurat kya sirf aapke ghar...aapke ma-baap....aapke bachcho ke jhote bartan maanjne ke liye hai......plzzz.....shayad aapko nhn pata ki yeh bhout hi ghatiyan soch hai aapki.........jo aapke liye pure din mahnat kerke,aapke din ke ek time ke khaane ke liye 2 ghante pehle se hi tayaari kerke aapka pait bhare...usse marna chahiye....wah...wah...wah.....bhout badiya..........
aap mein se hi kuch aise hai jo pehle to aurat ko bahar kaam kerne nhn dete or phir usse pura din kaam kerwate hai or fir keh rahe hai ki khaali padi galat hi sochegi...hadd hai....agar itni hi uske sochne se prob hai to allow karo usse bahar jaane ki...ghumne ki....aap logo ki tarah aish kerne ki....kyun nhn....
jibb tai nyu baat aa ja sai ek ya tai handori sai......badiya.....matlab tam chahe kitte bhi muh maarte hando...tai kuch nhn...per aurat ke liye saari limitations......
agar woye thapad aapke laage tai...kissa lagega.....????badiya....????agar shauk hai to to fer bvhagwan kare jaldi hi aapko iska swaad chakhne ko mille........
or yeh koi faltu ki soch nhn hai....jisne paida kare tam...uski jab tamm respect na ker sakte to to fer kuch nhn ker sakte.........
aapke liye better hai ki aap yeh soch badal de......warna aage jaake shayad yeh topic aap shuru kare....or wo bhi heading....
men respect:where do u stand....
samjhe aap..........agar yo din na dekhna tai start respecting a lady.......
mujhe bhout bura laga ki aap aisa sochte hai....
or aap hi nhn bhout se aise log hai jo aaj bhi aisa sochte hai per........bhout ghatiya soch hai yeh.......


Awesome reply Reena bebe ......jhuttte bhiga bhiga kaih maare hain tainee :)
 
and the rest is that, girls nahi manegi to okay...chado...bhot chado...ham mushkil ane nahi denge na bhai......chadayenge sir pe...fir utar denge neeche...fir chadayenge... fir utarenge...hahaha thats all ! :cool:
i would like to do this once i am married :rolleyes:


Aapke vichar kafi bhyanakk hain....kindly have pity for girls and don't get married at all...!! Nahi toh kissi ek bechari ko toh aap kabhi tthapado se toh kabhi iss uttha pattak main maar hi daalenge !!
 
Bhai haath judwaa ley....Galati ho gayi.....Maaf kardey my baap....

kyon bhai kya hua?...me yaha na to kisi se hath judwana chahata hoon aur na mafi mangwana chahata hoon...tumko jo thik laga kaha aur mujhe jo laga mene kaha...bas aur kya...take is easy bhai...kahane aur karne me, kahane walo aur karne walo me antar hota he...

reena, ritu, manjeeta, aur neelam ko jo respect chahiye women ke liye wo dene wale bina kahe de denge(dete hain, lekin unko lagta hi nahi he :D )...aur jinko nahi dena he wo bolke bhi nahi denge...:)
 
Aapke vichar kafi bhyanakk hain....kindly have pity for girls and don't get married at all...!! Nahi toh kissi ek bechari ko toh aap kabhi tthapado se toh kabhi iss uttha pattak main maar hi daalenge !!

thank you for kind suggestions manjeeta :)
let us see ki me meri wife ko kaise rakhta hoon...jatland pe continue rahana kuchh saal aur, fir meri wife se khud se hi sun lena... :rolleyes:
 
well after going through the thread i have a mixed openion... lemme share it with you all.

manjeeta - MEN is a breed that dosent only include your friends / boyfriends / classmates... they are a integral part of your life in roles of your brother / husband / father... should you be feeling same for them... its O.K. carry on... not your fault then... if not then plz do not generalise things... KEY THAAA LIYA TERRA UNNN CHORRYA NAE.. you dont sound to have met every single male on this earth to be judgemental.

Sandesh bhai...what do I feel for men?? Let me reiterate "I am just a human being like you and I have no right to catagorize men as good or bad". I have no hatred for them..I respect them in every form...they are just the way they are manufactured by God ..and I have no intentions to change them nor am I capable of bringing any change in them. :cool:
 
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main na to psycologically pagal hun na hi kuch or.....it was just i read abt this topic somewhere and just thought abt knowing the views of others.....isliye thread post kiya tha...... so just after reading a topic you put such a judgemental POST.... STRANGE... i wish you had applied some brain before going public.

well u sounded so negetive that i was forced to use such words, again.... u reacted on a article... and had u read my post closely such a reply would not have come from your end... jumping upon a gun is easy but please try to follow wot other person is trying to communicate.... n u did it twice forst after reading so called article and then by answering to my post.

rahi baat ghar baithne ki ......to shayad yeh aadmi ki hi ghatiya mentality hoti hai ki ladkiyon ko mat padao....gaon mein or abhi bhi kayi gharo mein aadmi hi yeh decision leta hai ki bus ladko ko padao.......to bechari ladki kahan jaye....kya kare.....jab itni educated hi nhn hai ki job ker sake to kya kare.....or kayi to educated hai tab bhi aisa hota hai unke saath....or ye kisne kaha ki agar aurat ghar per baithi ho to wo bekaar hi sochegi...aise to aap log bhi offices mein konsa teer maarte ho....aap log bhi to nithalle baithe rehte ho.....aadhe time net per...ha ha ha......bhai aurat agar itni hi bawali baat kerti ke usne peeto...to wa ghar na chala sakti thi........samjhe....
aapki bhout si baatein

aadmi ki nahi reena its they way mankind has been brought up... adamkhor zamane mei bhi aadmi hi thaey jo shikaar kar key laya karte aur aurat pakaya kardi... but in todays time learned ladies like u throwing this issue here are the purest example of the liberation provided by MEN... (thx to men again :rolleyes: ) i can go to lengths but i hope u would get the insight from this only... rest in a open forum... lemmme confesss .... it was a dream of mine to marry a HOMEMAKER and i did so and am quite content with that... reason wasnt sick mentality but was family oriented and i surely belive in true indian family systems.... and thrashing or battering is not part of it.. its for utmost peace.. happiness and for a contended life..

or ye kisne kaha ki agar aurat ghar per baithi ho to wo bekaar hi sochegi...

whn did i say ki she would hink evil allways had that been the case all women in this world would have been practising evil... including my MOM.. ur MOM n alll.... its like one has to be occupied... human mind needs a workout and thats wy i said one has to be busy... and i know am right here.. paruntuuu lemmme repeat the old kahawat agai... khalli dimaag shaitaan ka ghar ... shaitaan hum sab mei hai dear bebey we just need to recon it... throw the evil of hatred from ur mind might aswell it may involve so called MEN :rolleyes:

or haan main maanti hun ki ladkiyan bhi bhout jagah galat hoti hai....but aap khud yeh baat sochiyega.....ki jiss ladki ki jo MMS video banayi gayi thi....wo bhi kissi ladke ne hi dhoke se lee thi....

I guesss u are reffering to one such example like DPS .. i wonder u know how many MMS's float each day on internet... and acts of women in them..... dear sis desire has to be equal./.. plz understand on one hand you want to talk about liberation on the other hand you want to talk and project women as a sati savitri--- not possible... it has to be equal... lest accept it

or aaj jitni bhi ladkiyan prostitutes hai na wo sab bhi kissi na kissi majboori ke karan hai(approx).......or unhe wahan khada kerne wala bhi wahan ek koi na koi aadmi hi hai....samjhe aap..........

have you ever been to a brothel ???? i wonder nooo !!! (mei bhi na gaya
:) ) dont just go by the media or the reports at large...... yesss its the need which takes them there but the need is for their own family ... for their sisters / parents / brothers wot makes them go there... not the crowd of men who welcome them there each night.. as i said earlier this world is all about give and take and this is one example of give and take .... do you know that its the need for money which makes them go there not the men... men are just the consumers... no one invites a lady to become a prostitute..... its her own hardship ... to which a man is held responsible at large for not earning enough and by-product is wife /doughter gets into this act.... in process u blame man again... is u notice... jimmevaari bhi uski ... galti bhi uskiii... sabb kimmm uska tae thamm kaye nae choudhry banno soo... go n have peace.. and if u feel u r ... then plz do something instead of being a computer chair warrior...

aurat ko sudharne se pehle admi ko khud sudharna padega.........wo aadmi ker nhn sakte......

Naaaaaa aadmi tae konya sudhrae ... phaer key karegi ???? nhyu bata... arrey kamaaaal hoge bhai.... you just challanged my entire hought process... i feel u had enough insight that u read my post carefullly... had that been the cae you wouldnt have replied in such a manner... arrr nhuuuu bata jae aadmi naaa sudhre tae wot r ur plans for future... tuu nhyu kar bebey akk apni kahi baat key palley baandh ley arr kaddi bhi zindgi mei never ever trust / talk / be in relationship wid a man... kharikya saab ki raaagni yaad aagi........ EK bae boool sapple ki............. khuch wordings hai... bin marad ki bina faradd kaey looooooooooooool sappele kiiiiii... every women is so incomplete without a man and so is a man... lets spread luv n respect instead of hatred


Reena dont mind you sound to be obsessed with a illusion... i request to change it again... one gud example is had men been full wid this kindda prejudice u would not have been intreacting on such a forum.. appreciate things in lfe dear bhai bla ha baat maaan liye galat na kahu kaddey bhi
 
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