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Poverty of Soul — Complete Self-giving, Self-emptying love without regard for oneself — Why this is the only valid path of austere n pure love?

Share your precious n enligtening views on the never-ending question---What's the nature of real love ?
 
Poverty of Soul — Complete Self-giving, Self-emptying love without regard for oneself — Why this is the only valid path of austere n pure love?

Share your precious n enligtening views on the never-ending question---What's the nature of real love ?



Neelam ji ... cudn get ur question properly... nature means ???
Are u asking about traits of true love... i mean its spectiality /characterstics ???
Please let me know so that i can express my views on the topic :)
 
Neelam ji ... cudn get ur question properly... nature means ???
Are u asking about traits of true love... i mean its spectiality /characterstics ???
Please let me know so that i can express my views on the topic :)
Yea the word nature is used to describe any concept's basic features, characteristics,,, in general,, wht its like.
 
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Share your precious n enligtening views on the never-ending question---What's the nature of real love ?


Interesting...Let me attemt to answer. In my view love is like a newly born baby which consumes us almost completely in the beginning. As this child grows, he demands attention and cries. How he gets attention, shapes its future course and attitude. He needs continuous attention and nourishment. I suppose love is also like this. Very beautiful in the beginning but demanding later on and fulfiling if we groom it properly.

RK^2
 
Poverty of Soul — Complete Self-giving, Self-emptying love without regard for oneself — Why this is the only valid path of austere n pure love?

Share your precious n enligtening views on the never-ending question---What's the nature of real love ?


Each one of us hold our own philoshphy. At some point of time or the other it knocks everyones life and we all treat it in our own way. Some try to control their emotions and have own set of rules for their behavior. Some believe that love brings suffering and this do not allow them to take this risk. Some listen to their heart and simply follow their instincts.

Kisi ne kaha hai....Love is a trap..when it appears we only see its light and not its shadow....
But whats the harm in that..we all know that light do bring shadows as well...but does that mean that we live in darkness.....No we grow in light...and we understand that shadows are also part of life....
It may turn your world upside down.....and it may bring sufferings and pain as well...But then its better to lose some of the battles in the struggle for your dreams than to be defeated without ever even knowing what you are fighting for....
May be I am deviating from your main question.....
Pyar ko sirf pyar se paya jaa sakta hai....sirf pyar se samjha ja sakta hai....You find love by the act of loving.....and it survives where there is trust and faith.

Nature of love.......Its very simple if one can feel it......but for love to grow one have to live love all the time....Although its very strong but as RK said its like child..very true....you need to nourish it for it to grow and survive..... Like any other relation it demand your efforts...may be effort is not the appropriate word.....sach pocho to love do not demand efforts it only want you to stay in love and live happily...
Well I do not see love as an act of self emptying without the regard to oneself....
You know what all teaching says about the mokhs or ultimate peacefulness or joy....watever ultimate kind of thing you belve in.....They all say onething that to achieve that peace...free your soul from everything....Apnee ko apnee Mai (I, me, myself, mine) se mukt karo..tabhee tum use mehsos kar paaogai...But one just can not do that......
But when you are really in love..your soul become free of all this......You are willing to give your everything for this one feeling....You find all those other desires of life to be superfical....and thats what make people to dance before god and thats the purity you feel when you listen to a sufi...... Its simply a wonderful feeling...
...But surely beyond words..
or shall i say its just as simple as the word love itself...
 
Whenever one is selfless from deep within towards any thing....the true love will surface...where there are no conditions,no fears,no rewards,no penalties,no question asked,no answers given........True love thus can only be felt deep inside the soul......it is a rare commodity which grow deep inside all of us....it is free from malice and revenge.It is a virtue pure like daffodils.Selflessness and love are two dear friends....inseparable and uncompromising!
 
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To me love is a feeling in which you feel happier when do something for others whether its your parents, brother, sister, child, spouse or even strangers..There are various hues of love each mapping itself to the relationship of the other person with you..Love cannot be done by force, the feeling comes automatically..Many a times it happens that you feel more complacent & happy when you cut down on your own needs and spend all you have (money, time, etc) for someone else - this is love!!
 
I would like to put it as “purity of soul” rather than “poverty of soul”
It’s pure, selfless, and undemanding. Expect nothing in return. No scope for any deception, greed, blame or blemish.

Niswarth Nishchhal Nirvikaar Prem

This kind of love is not poverty of soul but enriching and empowering of soul


Cheers!
 
Each one of us hold our own philoshphy. At some point of time or the other it knocks everyones life and we all treat it in our own way. Some try to control their emotions and have own set of rules for their behavior. Some believe that love brings suffering and this do not allow them to take this risk. Some listen to their heart and simply follow their instincts.

Kisi ne kaha hai....Love is a trap..when it appears we only see its light and not its shadow....
But whats the harm in that..we all know that light do bring shadows as well...but does that mean that we live in darkness.....No we grow in light...and we understand that shadows are also part of life....
It may turn your world upside down.....and it may bring sufferings and pain as well...But then its better to lose some of the battles in the struggle for your dreams than to be defeated without ever even knowing what you are fighting for....
May be I am deviating from your main question.....
Pyar ko sirf pyar se paya jaa sakta hai....sirf pyar se samjha ja sakta hai....You find love by the act of loving.....and it survives where there is trust and faith.

Nature of love.......Its very simple if one can feel it......but for love to grow one have to live love all the time....Although its very strong but as RK said its like child..very true....you need to nourish it for it to grow and survive..... Like any other relation it demand your efforts...may be effort is not the appropriate word.....sach pocho to love do not demand efforts it only want you to stay in love and live happily...
Well I do not see love as an act of self emptying without the regard to oneself....
You know what all teaching says about the mokhs or ultimate peacefulness or joy....watever ultimate kind of thing you belve in.....They all say onething that to achieve that peace...free your soul from everything....Apnee ko apnee Mai (I, me, myself, mine) se mukt karo..tabhee tum use mehsos kar paaogai...But one just can not do that......
But when you are really in love..your soul become free of all this......You are willing to give your everything for this one feeling....You find all those other desires of life to be superfical....and thats what make people to dance before god and thats the purity you feel when you listen to a sufi...... Its simply a wonderful feeling...
...But surely beyond words..
or shall i say its just as simple as the word love itself...

Very nicely explained Di !:) Really, love doesnt means that one has to try to be giving by nature, rather such giving instincts develops on there own & thats the real beauty & meaning of love. Giving becomes more cherishing than receiving! Anything can be changed for the positive & all seems new and opyimism sinks in !! :)
 
To me love is a feeling in which you feel happier when do something for others whether its your parents, brother, sister, child, spouse or even strangers..There are various hues of love each mapping itself to the relationship of the other person with you..Love cannot be done by force, the feeling comes automatically..Many a times it happens that you feel more complacent & happy when you cut down on your own needs and spend all you have (money, time, etc) for someone else - this is love!!

well explained bhai:)
 
Well, am kinda novice here :) but I must say very commendable answer by Great RK uncle...Truly Sensible reply!! Kudos to u uncleji!! :):):)

I got one more Question, Does Unconditional Luv exist in this stingy World???

As far I believe Mother's luv is very much close to unconditional luv...other's forms of luv are all demanding!!

Well, one more thing to add, -

Luv is food for soul and everbody longs for it cuz its basic necessity & in this divine feeling you feel contented in givin' n u get soul-satisfaction in reward!! :) what else u want/need????


Rock on
Jit



Interesting...Let me attemt to answer. In my view love is like a newly born baby which consumes us almost completely in the beginning. As this child grows, he demands attention and cries. How he gets attention, shapes its future course and attitude. He needs continuous attention and nourishment. I suppose love is also like this. Very beautiful in the beginning but demanding later on and fulfiling if we groom it properly.

RK^2
 
Mukesh tum to rehney hi dena PLEASE...jab DIDI kehney pey itna bawaal macha tha to GF kehney pe kya hoga....we can imagine:) baaki Vivek ki aadat sai jaan-bawla banann ki arr acting maaran ki;)
bhai aap bi confuse ho kya meri tareh... koi na padh lo itni sari definition and explanation hai love par... thoda bhoot to pale padega hi !! aur pher the bi thoda sa contribute kar do :)
 
Poverty of Soul — Complete Self-giving, Self-emptying love without regard for oneself — Why this is the only valid path of austere n pure love?

Share your precious n enligtening views on the never-ending question---What's the nature of real love ?

Dr sahiba

Its impossible to describe the nature of love.Only a nice human can understand the love of another nice human. It can't be described in case of bad men/women as they have their own definitions of love.
Nature of love may be different for diferrent individuals but only a nice person
can feel it,describe it and may implement it without any discriminations of caste,wealth,status,profession............................

SB:)
GJU,Hisar
 
Each one of us hold our own philoshphy. At some point of time or the other it knocks everyones life and we all treat it in our own way. Some try to control their emotions and have own set of rules for their behavior. Some believe that love brings suffering and this do not allow them to take this risk. Some listen to their heart and simply follow their instincts.

Kisi ne kaha hai....Love is a trap..when it appears we only see its light and not its shadow....
But whats the harm in that..we all know that light do bring shadows as well...but does that mean that we live in darkness.....No we grow in light...and we understand that shadows are also part of life....
It may turn your world upside down.....and it may bring sufferings and pain as well...But then its better to lose some of the battles in the struggle for your dreams than to be defeated without ever even knowing what you are fighting for....
May be I am deviating from your main question.....
Pyar ko sirf pyar se paya jaa sakta hai....sirf pyar se samjha ja sakta hai....You find love by the act of loving.....and it survives where there is trust and faith.

Nature of love.......Its very simple if one can feel it......but for love to grow one have to live love all the time....Although its very strong but as RK said its like child..very true....you need to nourish it for it to grow and survive..... Like any other relation it demand your efforts...may be effort is not the appropriate word.....sach pocho to love do not demand efforts it only want you to stay in love and live happily...
Well I do not see love as an act of self emptying without the regard to oneself....
You know what all teaching says about the mokhs or ultimate peacefulness or joy....watever ultimate kind of thing you belve in.....They all say onething that to achieve that peace...free your soul from everything....Apnee ko apnee Mai (I, me, myself, mine) se mukt karo..tabhee tum use mehsos kar paaogai...But one just can not do that......
But when you are really in love..your soul become free of all this......You are willing to give your everything for this one feeling....You find all those other desires of life to be superfical....and thats what make people to dance before god and thats the purity you feel when you listen to a sufi...... Its simply a wonderful feeling...
...But surely beyond words..
or shall i say its just as simple as the word love itself...[/
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hello
Pyar ko sirf pyar se paya jaa sakta hai....sirf pyar se samjha ja sakta hai....You find love by the act of loving.....and it survives where there is trust and faith
these above lines r really very good. reading these lines one may
understand the basic nature of real love

SB
GJU,Hisar
 
I have already expressed on above but i guess there is something more for me to add.....
These incident speak for themself...and made me understand the faces of love....
After reading this thread....I asked my labmate sitting next to me.....Do you know the nature of love???..She looked at me ....with a bit confuse expressions...and then she said... u do not mean that.....I said..no i really want an answer......
Then she looked at other people in the lab...they all were simply absorbed in their work..someone listening to music and was doing something.....But none of them look stressed...they were enjoying themself.....and after looking towards all of them..she looked at me and passed a smile and said ....i think..you know it very well....
Yes...ofcourse I know the love......Responsibility may make ur brain work and keep you motivated..but love....make ur soul to work...
I recently read about someone here in JL..The lady says that there is difference between carrer and job...yes this is wat makes all the difference........

It reminds me of an incident.....I was given some new topic to work on...and i was telling one of my teacher that its totally new and there are too many things to learn..i can not expect my boss to teach me everything..this is simply too much for me......He said....its good to know that u do not expect your boss to teach you everything...but the only thing your boss need to do is to make you love your project....Then his job is done.....Then rest of things the energy of love will do.....
He told me..you know what a good teacher try to do..he simply try to develop love for the subject..if he can make his students love the subject..then their is nothing more he need to teach.....

If you have that passion..you will do everything to enjoy and live love...

This is the nature of love..Its simply wonderful feeling...and it has enormous energy......
Do you know why some of the sadhu mahatamas are so frustrated....because they all know this secret of living but unfortuate they are..that they can not feel that love.....

Have you seen the advertisment for armed forces.......it starts with something as ..those who have passion to.........
If you ask me I would say its only the love and passion which can make a soldier to stand before a bullet....duty can make you fight but its love which can make you challange the death.....
This is the nature of love....
 
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