Intercaste Marriages.

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why to marry in same caste? can anybody provide a sound, logical reason behind that?
if a jat marries a brahmin, what will happen? will the child not inherit qualities of a jat? does it depend upon the blood or the environment in which the child is raise.

plz provide some valuable insight
 
why to marry in same caste? can anybody provide a sound, logical reason behind that?
if a jat marries a brahmin, what will happen? will the child not inherit qualities of a jat? does it depend upon the blood or the environment in which the child is raise.

plz provide some valuable insight


Ok can you please tell me why not in a same caste????????
 
Hello Arvind Ji :)
This interesting topic has been discussed too many times on JL. Please look in the following links, I hope that you would surely find your answer in those threads. :) :)

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9677

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6110

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7466

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6872

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11485

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6113

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5165

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4896

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4351


Please go for these threads and find a conclusion and enlighten us. ;)



why to marry in same caste? can anybody provide a sound, logical reason behind that?
if a jat marries a brahmin, what will happen? will the child not inherit qualities of a jat? does it depend upon the blood or the environment in which the child is raise.

plz provide some valuable insight
 
Hello Arvind Ji :)
This interesting topic has been discussed too many times on JL. Please look in the following links, I hope that you would surely find your answer in those threads. :) :)



Please go for these threads and find a conclusion and enlighten us. ;)
PRASHANT !!!!!!!!!!!!

You are SoOooooooooooo much fond of this topic that you made such a heavy search :o:rolleyes:;):D:p
 
PRASHANT !!!!!!!!!!!!

You are SoOooooooooooo much fond of this topic that you made such a heavy search :o:rolleyes:;):D:p

he might have calculated the right decision for himself ;):D:p

but, prashant did a good job for arvind.....even i came here to suggest him(arvind) to search out the same related link :D
 
delete the word

if that is so, why not delete the word Jat from our cast and stop saying we are Jat:) and have only one cast for everybody
Identity ka hi to saara khel hai:)
 
thanks neelam and prashant. its already discussed.

i feel there is no harm in intercaste marriage...
kyunki jaati janam se nahi karam se hoti hai..
 
Parent's Wish

thanks neelam and prashant. its already discussed.

i feel there is no harm in intercaste marriage...
kyunki jaati janam se nahi karam se hoti hai..


Well Arvind there is no harm in intercaste marriage coz at the end of the day its your own happiness that counts.................but its a matter of thinking, what is important. Some may say happiness means MY HAPPINESS, other may say mariage is not between two individuals but between two different families. So when somebody go for his personal happiness and forgets abt his parents and family members then its a serious problem ahead. To my understanding if sumbdy thinks that he/she doesn't care about his/her parents wishes and wants to go ahead with his/her own decision........then it creates panic for the future and tht marriage is in dolldrums and in crises (m talking from a jat family perspective). The reason behind is that a jat family is socially well connected and so concerend that, any social bycott by the community or wellwishers is end of story for them. Therefore basic solution is, if your parents are ready then no issues in marrying sumbdy out of caste (even go for globalised marriage proposal why just India), but if that desicion of yours is not acceptable to your parents dnt go for it (thtz my suggestion). Remember one thing that the only expectation and dream of our parents is our marriage with their consent and wish. Our financial stability, status in society etc. are all secondary for them. And its my perosnal esperience, I am sharing.

baki as u said jati naam se nahi karam se hi hoti hai............jo karam hamaare maata pita ko kush na rakh sakke ........woh karam ........karam nahi kukaram hai!!
 
RUPENDAR
thanks for ur input
u have concentrated everything around happiness. but its not only about our happiness or parents happiness. its also about what is right and what is wrong. important thing is to do the right thing. as u know one of the prime reason for india being colonised for centuries is its caste system. its a bane on indian society. and surest way to get rid of it is intercaste marriages.
parents bhi insaan hi hai. they can also be wrong smtimes. and most of the times its not their happines, its ego satisfaction and false pride in society which they get when their child is married acc to their wish.

parents bhagwaan samaan hai, but truth is above all.
 
RUPENDAR
thanks for ur input
u have concentrated everything around happiness. but its not only about our happiness or parents happiness. its also about what is right and what is wrong. important thing is to do the right thing. as u know one of the prime reason for india being colonised for centuries is its caste system. its a bane on indian society. and surest way to get rid of it is intercaste marriages.
parents bhi insaan hi hai. they can also be wrong smtimes. and most of the times its not their happines, its ego satisfaction and false pride in society which they get when their child is married acc to their wish.

parents bhagwaan samaan hai, but truth is above all.

Rightly said Arvind ! Its never about their happiness unless the prospective groom/bride lacks the basic qualities which they desire in their child's spouse.

Most of the time the parents forbid inter caste marriages just because of the false pride as you mentioned & not being able to move away from the age-old line of demarcation on the basis of castes formed by us ages ago !

Yes, they do fear how will the society react to this, what will be the reaction of the relatives blah blah ...., but they fail to think that choice of a compatible partner for their child is above these fake fears.

If everyone takes this approach in mind as mentioned by Roopak, then this bogus caste system will never stop eating us up!! Dont you work with the people of other castes or dont you rely on the services & help offered by the people from other castes? Then why this double standard in case of marriages?

If everyone succumbs to societal fear then who will cross the line to shun away this age old hypocracy?

Caste system found its origin when people felt the need to demarcate the society on the basis of type of work people do and a hierarchiacal system was followed in choosing the job or profession.

Kshatriyas were meant to attend to the war front, brahmins for sacred chores etc. But now when this demarcation has vanished in terms of deeds then whats the aptness in being slave to this system? If the parents cant open up to this then why cant we stay away from blowing the same old trumpet?



 
Rightly said Arvind ! Its never about their happiness unless the prospective groom/bride lacks the basic qualities which they desire in their child's spouse.

Most of the time the parents forbid inter caste marriages just because of the false pride as you mentioned & not being able to move away from the age-old line of demarcation on the basis of castes formed by us ages ago !

Yes, they do fear how will the society react to this, what will be the reaction of the relatives blah blah ...., but they fail to think that choice of a compatible partner for their child is above these fake fears.

If everyone takes this approach in mind as mentioned by Roopak, then this bogus caste system will never stop eating us up!! Dont you work with the people of other castes or dont you rely on the services & help offered by the people from other castes? Then why this double standard in case of marriages?

If everyone succumbs to societal fear then who will cross the line to shun away this age old hypocracy?

Caste system found its origin when people felt the need to demarcate the society on the basis of type of work people do and a hierarchiacal system was followed in choosing the job or profession.

Kshatriyas were meant to attend to the war front, brahmins for sacred chores etc. But now when this demarcation has vanished in terms of deeds then whats the aptness in being slave to this system? If the parents cant open up to this then why cant we stay away from blowing the same old trumpet?



Well Shweta I never claimed that there has to be a blind following.........I said there is no harm in marrying out of caste also ..bt it shud be with ur parents consent............nd second this caste system when itnitally it started was on the basis of biological resoning. so that there shud be no marriage within the blood relations/group but with the passage of time the whole meaning changed and then came your demarcation according to kind of work we do. My only objective behind the whole story was not to do anythng against the wishes of parents .............coz I have observed and I have seen it ruins life of more thn couple of people. Otherwise nobody is so stupid today that sumbdy will blindly marry an incompatible match, even in case of arrange marriages. Otherwise I don't find any reason why people like you or me, go for arranged marriages even in today's world after our parents consent, it just can't be to keep our parents happy, I am sure other considerations and compatibilty is also there. (I hope you have understood what I am saying)
 
Well Shweta I never claimed that there has to be a blind following.........I said there is no harm in marrying out of caste also ..bt it shud be with ur parents consent............nd second this caste system when itnitally it started was on the basis of biological resoning. so that there shud be no marriage within the blood relations/group but with the passage of time the whole meaning changed and then came your demarcation according to kind of work we do. My only objective behind the whole story was not to do anythng against the wishes of parents .............coz I have observed and I have seen it ruins life of more thn couple of people. Otherwise nobody is so stupid today that sumbdy will blindly marry an incompatible match, even in case of arrange marriages. Otherwise I don't find any reason why people like you or me, go for arranged marriages even in today's world after our parents consent, it just can't be to keep our parents happy, I am sure other considerations and compatibilty is also there. (I hope you have understood what I am saying)

Yeah I completely understand your point of view and support it too but my only contention is what if parents dont consent just because of the societal pressure & fear of losing social recognition in their caste ?
 
thanks neelam and prashant. its already discussed.

i feel there is no harm in intercaste marriage...
kyunki jaati janam se nahi karam se hoti hai..
agar karam se hoti hain to ek baniye ke haath se lath ya banduk chalwa ke dekha de maan jaunga bhai tane ...
bhai aapne hybreed aur desi beejo ke bare me suna hoga , dono k taste me farak hota hain, desi khane me swaad hota hain par paidhawar me kam aur hybreed dekhne me achha hota hain paidhawar me jyaadha par khaane me swaad nahi hota....
 
Yeah I completely understand your point of view and support it too but my only contention is what if parents dont consent just because of the societal pressure & fear of losing social recognition in their caste ?


Finally we are on same terms. Well then there is a task at our hand. It will require lot of persuation and negotiation, emotional blackmailing from both sides bla bla. But I tell you something there will always be "WHAT IF". So need not to get into those peculiar situations. There can always be circumstances which are exceptional and which need excpetional answers ans solutions to it. So let us not make those situations topic of discussion here as those answers cannot be termed as precedents here.
 
jaatan ka nakli choraa

agar karam se hoti hain to ek baniye ke haath se lath ya banduk chalwa ke dekha de maan jaunga bhai tane ...
bhai aapne hybreed aur desi beejo ke bare me suna hoga , dono k taste me farak hota hain, desi khane me swaad hota hain par paidhawar me kam aur hybreed dekhne me achha hota hain paidhawar me jyaadha par khaane me swaad nahi hota....
Ravinder do you have a Bank Account with some Jatu Bank ? :rolleyes:

Do you eat chappatis only if made by aata from a Jataa ki chakki :p

Do you watch News strictly by Jat correspondents :D

Do you use a Jat - made keyboard & PC to use Jatland ... oops i mean I dont think you know any other site other than this ..... :cool:

Do you walk on Jat made roads .... ;)
 
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Ravinder do you have a Bank Account with some Jatu Bank ? :rolleyes:

Do you eat chappatis only if made by aata from a Jataa ki chakki :p

Do you watch News strictly by Jat correspondents :D

Do you use a Jat - made keyboard & PC to use Jatland ... oops i mean I dont think you know any other site other than this ..... :cool:

Do you walk on Jat made roads .... ;)

If not ....... then ........ you are a hybrid Jat/nakli Jat/milaawati Jat/Doosri jaatiyo pe Dependent Jat/abhi yehi kaafi hai ...... :D :tamatar:boxing


m neu a dekhu thha ak kaun kaun pichhanne...joo dushri zaatti me byaah karega...:rock
VS
NAKLI JAT:boxingASLI JAT
 
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Ravinder do you have a Bank Account with some Jatu Bank ? :rolleyes:

Do you eat chappatis only if made by aata from a Jataa ki chakki :p

Do you watch News strictly by Jat correspondents :D

Do you use a Jat - made keyboard & PC to use Jatland ... oops i mean I dont think you know any other site other than this ..... :cool:

Do you walk on Jat made roads .... ;)

If not ....... then ........ you are a hybrid Jat/nakli Jat/milaawati Jat/Doosri jaatiyo pe Dependent Jat/abhi yehi kaafi hai ...... :D
:tamatar:boxing

lol...nice one. Can't agree more :p
 
a ques. again

i feel there is no harm in intercaste marriage...
kyunki jaati janam se nahi karam se hoti hai..

before our dear moderators react here ;), i would like to ask you all a question....

i agree with the above statement of arvind....though i didn't read all the posts but whatever i read is agreeable, whether in favour or opposition.....and if talking about my personal feeling to main thori ulti hun....ya kuch bhi laga lo aap sab.....mujhe parents dusri community mein shaadi karne ke liye bolen to bhi mera mann nahin karta....saaf bolti hun unse....akeli rah jaaungi, wo theek [:D]...and seriously, i stand by my words

now the question is that.....agar inter-caste system ko approval milta raha from every side..then.....won't it add to the muslim community after few decades....in the sense....just the child born from same mother can't marry each other, rest everybody can get marry with the person coming from any kind relationship.....don't you think so???????......its a ques. from my side to all.......maan liya ki ek pandit hai aur dusra baniya, to kiska gotra chhodenge.....now again their child can go into the third community....kaun bhai, kaun behan,.....ye kaise samjhenge????......aaj to hum mummy ke gotra waale kisi bhi insaan se milte hain to bhai-behan ka nata easily samajh jaate hain.....and this way a community stands tall

....waise to aajkal nuclear family ka jyada chalan hai to jab family group hi chhota hota jaa raha hai to no doubts ki iss tarah se to shayad community group bhi chhota ho sakta hai (this is all what i feel about).....that's why i don't prefer to settle abroad

so, first clear my above highlighted point (may be you find it very stupid but pls make it clear)

second thing, i don't hate muslims....they are the part of our society....but what if the same muslim like culture is being follwed everywhere that regarding marriage??????....think a little beyond your own marriage customs
 
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why to marry in same caste? can anybody provide a sound, logical reason behind that?
if a jat marries a brahmin, what will happen? will the child not inherit qualities of a jat? does it depend upon the blood or the environment in which the child is raise.

plz provide some valuable insight
bhai ya salah ghaarkya pa le ...haamne to k aitraaj ho thha
uun bi jata me chhoriya ki kammi ho ri s..
 
Intercast marriage theek se tou mane yo bataon kitne jaton ne intercast marriage kar rakhee se. Ye sarree batain sirf forums pe discuss karne mai achhee lagtee hai.
 
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