How to deal with Pakistan ?

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amans said:
They believe that jihad is their obligation. Isn’t that freedom of opinion?’ Pakistan is playing double game and everyone knows...and no one has the guts to do anything about it and Pakistan knows that it can get away with it as it has been for long time....and this goes on and on...
The problem started when Mohmmed Bin Qasim came....and occupied Sind...and...then came Ghazni, Ghori, slave kings, Mughals and rest is history....
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Thats the crux of the problem. Pakistan is just a sysmtom of the root cause, Arabian imperialism or islam. The good part it that muslims don't realise because their minds are shut closed through teachings (indoctrination) and non-muslims ar not far sighted enough.

Jihad is a heavenly mandate. It is a must whether pakistan does it or somebody else, does not matter.

Actually, pak strategy has been very very consistent since its inception. Only after Zia ul Haq it became sharper. So whether peopple adopt Israeli measures or Gandhian, they wont stop till they are mentally enslaved by the Arabs.

Swami Dayanand had show the right path for dealing with the ideology. Arya Samajis need to re-learn their vocation. Thats the permanent solution.
 
No solution these in house terrorists(Politicians) they are not intrested in prvoding any solution. We can clearly see that they want to alive the issue for the elections so that they can ask for the votes by touching the emotions by keeping the issue alive and not doing anything:mad:.
Every thing here is whole bloody politics. I beleive we should look for some permanent solution for those pilitical terrorists.
 
Sachin bhai had given some suggestions regarding a "Great Wall" to be created acorss border. He gave some name also to that Deewar. Also, there were some suggestions on creating fencing and growing trees on either side of the wall.... I guess that point has some valid reasons. We should discuss that also!
 
anilsangwan said:
Sachin bhai had given some suggestions regarding a "Great Wall" to be created acorss border. He gave some name also to that Deewar. Also, there were some suggestions on creating fencing and growing trees on either side of the wall.... I guess that point has some valid reasons. We should discuss that also!
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Anil Bhai deewar to china aur hamare beech me bhi hai lekin uske bavjood bhi china ne bharat par 1962 me akraman kiya.

Is baat ka solution to hamara netaao ke haath me hai aur vo iska koi hal nikalna nahi chahte. Pakistan to bana hi is mudde par tha ki India ka vinaash karna hai. Pakistan ki to majboori hai is JEHAD ko jaari rakhne ki. Kyonki vahan democracy kewal dikhane ke liye hai, nahi to vahan par military raj hai. Pahli baat to muslim education ko jyada mahatva nahi dete aur jab bina education ke unhe kahein kuchh kaam karne ke liye nahi milta hai to yeh he berojgaar yuvak aatankvaadi ban jate hain. Aur jo padh likh kar bhi nahi samajhte wo apne gyan ka durupyog India ke khilaaf karte hain. Vahan ke politician bhi India ke khilaaf jehaad karne ka mudda utha kar vote lete hain aur satta me aate hain. aur yahee baat india ke saath hai jaisa ki nishant bhai ne likha ki our politicians don't want to solve this matter because after this solution they will lost a MUDDA to collect vote in their favour in election.

To bhaiyon main mudda hain in house terroriest (our politicians), if they can do something positive in this regard than this problem can be solve otherwise not.....
 
Fateh said:
Very important, useful & interesting information & ideas have been contibutted by all participents, specially by Col Tavethia & sh. RK Kalkhande. In brief I would like to submit few lines for the consideration of our learned jalanders.
1 Deal the enemy with in our house, before Pak
2 Establish rule of law & seperate religion, caste & area from the Governing system.
3 Tighten the internal & external security.
4 Stop all entries of pakies & Indians to each others area.
(Remember, offensive Defence is always batter defence.

5 Isolate the pak economically, physically & politically.
6 Harm the economy of pak by all means.
7 Give five slaps to pak for his one. pay him in same quine immediately.
8 Create all possible internal problems in the pak.
9 Start undeclared war against pak on all possible fronts.
10 we have to handle elder brother of pak , the china, very very intelligently & tactfully and unsure that no worth help from china reaches to pak.
11 We all have to be mentally & physically prepared to face the problem & shortout the pak. The example of Israle is very simple & suitable.
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These points make sense to me.. All rivers are orignated from India.. Make big dams and reserviours.. and make sure that not even single drop of water reaches pakistan.. let them be like Afghanistan... let them suffer...

Only problem is that they have those nuclear aresenals... We dont know when they will use and for what..
 
Dear Sir,

I have collected some data and my research team has also given some input, i will put it on JL for the benifit of members.

anilsangwan said:
Sachin bhai had given some suggestions regarding a "Great Wall" to be created acorss border. He gave some name also to that Deewar. Also, there were some suggestions on creating fencing and growing trees on either side of the wall.... I guess that point has some valid reasons. We should discuss that also!
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Saara paani toh India mein aawan dyo..... kar dyo Rajasthan ne hara bhara.......... er saarey desh k sewege k naaley gair dyo Pakistan kaani...... chahe uss khatir 2-4 hazaar crore khirch bhi ho jyan....koi parwaah nahi.... par iss Pakistan ki Maroddd likadd jaagi !!!!



yudhvirmor said:
These points make sense to me.. All rivers are orignated from India.. Make big dams and reserviours.. and make sure that not even single drop of water reaches pakistan.. let them be like Afghanistan... let them suffer...

Only problem is that they have those nuclear aresenals... We dont know when they will use and for what..
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Most rivers in Northern India and Pakistan originate from China specifically Tibet not from India.
 
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Anil Sir,

This is also a good suggestion. We should make adequate use of water which is under our control.

Infact during hostile situations the Water Heads/Barrages position is monitored/controlled by Army and depending upon the situation they can flood the rivers on border to offset enemy's Armoured movements.

This is a good suggestion from you as such things are part of Army operational plan. I will see how best this suggestion can be lined with making of the "Great Wall" on border

anilsangwan said:
Saara paani toh India mein aawan dyo..... kar dyo Rajasthan ne hara bhara.......... er saarey desh k sewege k naaley gair dyo Pakistan kaani...... chahe uss khatir 2-4 hazaar crore khirch bhi ho jyan....koi parwaah nahi.... par iss Pakistan ki Maroddd likadd jaagi !!!!
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Hi Friends.

Best and only way to deal with Pak is "Ghar main ghus kar maaro"
Aur koi way nahi hai...
Ye baaton se ya kisi or tarike se nahi manegey aur na hi koi aur solution hai unka.....:)
 
Dear brothers. We have put forth many solutions and strtegies for tackling Pakistan sponsored terrorism. Though I also putforth my openion on this matter under other thread, meanwhile I came across an eye opening short aticle, which exposes reasons for our dilly-dallying attitude towards tackling this problem;-
"For this you have to go to HISTORY OF INDIA.
The afghans who live near the HINDU KUSH range have a saying .It runs like this
HIT A HINDU. HE WILL THREATEN TO HIT BACK
HIT THE HINDU AGAIN.HE WILL AGAIN THREATEN YOU AND SWEAR AT YOU violently
HIT THE HINDU AGAIN ;HE WILL HIT HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN IN ANGER
HIT THE HINDU AGAIN ; HE WILL HIT HIMSELF.
The above saying is about MY forefathers.There was no Islam,Christianity nearly two thousand years back or may be earlier than even Budhism because Gandhra art and Alexander invasion came before that.
Today you see the same story repeating again.You go to Saudi arabia.Saudi arabian women are not allowed to go unescorted outside their homes except with only their husbands,brothers,spouces.But Pakistani,bangladeshi and Indian Muslims are ALLOWED TO ESCORT the saudi women as drivers.They are not considered men enough!!!!
Instead of blaming Pakistan which is only a surrogate of Saudi arabia and USA, why not zero in on Sauidi arabia?
Other option is killing Indian Muslims as the saying of Hindu kush pathan goes."
 
First of all, I honestly declare that I didn’t read the whole thread.

How to deal with Pakistan ? We had been thinking about this since last 62 years and don’t know how many more years we will keep just “Thinking”

We ( read Indians) see ourselves as a Superpower after 15-20 years and that’s not a bad dream if we try to materialize it. But we can not/will not become a superpower unless we react with some substantial steps towards the world issues/conflicts. And here we are, we can’t react strongly against a well known and proven guilty country according to our laws. See Americans, they just say “It’s against the US benefits and law’s in this area and we are here to secure American rights here”. That’s why they are superpower. Soviets were so aggressive about their pride all across the globe. And we ( read Indians) can’t fire a few missiles on some pre-defined destinations where we know that certain dishes are being cooked up to infect our digestion system. Instead of spoiling their cooking by ourselves we are trying to convince the Chemist ( Read US/UN or whatever you like ) that it is fault of the cook and YOU should take any action. If we are not able to take any hard action against our well known foe then we should not talk about becoming a superpower. Nobody will consider you as a mediator unless you can not resolve your own matters.

We consider ourselves as Lions and roar loudly as “MEEEEEEEOOOOOOOW”.

If we want to become a superpower then we should behave like that only.
Big guys never play with soft toys.
 
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amans said:
Most rivers in Northern India and Pakistan originate from China specifically Tibet not from India.
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Bhai hooda yaa toh aur badiya baat hai... Dam bana doo.. China aale doob ka mar jange aur Pakistan alle tasaaye mar jange..

Kar dee kaam

Anil bhai wah Bheet baanan ke bajaye thaam apne hisse ke tasle uss dam pa gar diyo:D:D:D
 
yudhvirmor said:
Bhai hooda yaa toh aur badiya baat hai... Dam bana doo.. China aale doob ka mar jange aur Pakistan alle tasaaye mar jange..

Kar dee kaam
...Anil bhai wah Bheet baanan ke bajaye thaam apne hisse ke tasle uss dam pa gar diyo:D:D:D
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Bhai.... bannwa dyo Damm.... mein toh 10 taasley faaltu gair dyunga.....!!!
Jokes Apart, if feasible, this is good option to built a dam. Sometimes we get very good ideas from "not-so-serious" discussions. I guess this is one of them and I guess best suggestion so far !!
 
Nishant Ji dont be so pessimistic.....look just one thread and we have come up with so many solutions. I guess we should take a print out and send this to PM to start dealing with Pakistan
 
sunitahooda said:
Nishant Ji dont be so pessimistic.....look just one thread and we have come up with so many solutions. I guess we should take a print out and send this to PM to start dealing with Pakistan
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Sunita ji PM :D
aap kya sochti hai ki politicians kuch kar sakte hain. Agar vo kuch kar sakte to bhout pehle kar dete. aazadi se le kar aab tak jo bhi hua hai sab ko pata hai..

ye politicians kabhi development ki duhayi dete hai to kabhi war se hone vali barbadi ki. Par mein to yehi kahuga ki aise ghut ghut ke marne se to aacha hai ek bar marna ...aar ya paar.

Har saal hamare kitni military persons aur aam aadmi marte hai sab pak ki vajha se.Lekin politicians aapni jab bharne mein lage hue hai.

in my openion (sum members not like this) Military shashan lagu kar do. pher bajan do. Jo border par marte hai unhe decision lene do.:rock:rock
 
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