chhote bhai aap meri , rinku sheoran , vivek gathwala , narender kharb bhaiji , dudi uncle , w jitender hooda bhai ki purani thread me reply check karna sare jwaab milenge .. aur hum akele yaha site par nahi ground par bhi kaam karte hain . tabhi aaj log hamare saath jude hain agar hamare paas jawab nahi hote to log bawle nahi nahi hamare liye time barbaad karenge . pichhe merrut me 16feb ko 3 lakh jat ekaitha hue the we k bawle the . hamare bade budo ne unke sawalon ka jwaab diye tabhi to wo log ekaitha hue hain. site par log sirf sawal jawab karne aate hain unhe zameeni haqiqat ka elm nahi hota . eb vilaayat me baitha s k batau aade aak najare dekh hamare andholan ke aape sare jawab mil jange. m jab tak AC m sou su 10 lakh ki gadi me chalu su tab tak maine bhi nue lagya kare ak sare mouj me s kise n k dukh s par jis din gaama me jaawa sa udde bera pate s halaat ka , jab log aake nyu kah s n ak bhai mahre chhore ne kitte 4 hazar ki naukri a diwa de ggn me .
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Yeh raha ek thread jo maine hi start kiya tha.
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26214&highlight=jats+reservations
Jo aapki arguments tab thi, wohi ab hain. And they have nothing to do with the point. Arguments being- hum ground pe kaam karte hain, tum vilayat main araam karte ho, AC, 10 lakh ki gaadi, etc. etc. I am not going to give you a certificate on my background- shaayad aapse kahin zyada humble raha ho. And you don't need a rocket scientist to tell you that what a ridiculous way this is to argue. Aap bhi padh lena thread, you will see lots of people giving lots of good arguments on why demanding reservations is a bad idea. Anyone genuinely interested in a cause should be keen to examine the opposite view. Unfortunately, I only see a self-congratulatory tone and making snide comments on those opposing the view, rather than debating the views themselves.
Jahaan tak aam junta ka sawaal hai, woh to kisi se bhi jud jaati hai. Mayawati se bhi judti hai aur Hitler se bhi. Mandir banaane waalon ke saath bhi aur shariah lagoo karne waalon ke saath bhi. Agar "junta hamaare saath hai" proved anything, then Jinnah would have been right in 1947 and so would have been Maoists right now. All examples quoted above were also very vocal about their commitment to their respective communities and highly active on the ground. But unfortunately, none of their
actions on the ground did any positive to their respective communities.
Aur main ground realities se achhi tarah vaakif hoon. Aaj se 12 saal pehle, jab main 10vin main tha, tabse main Jat Mahasabha ke aandolanon ko dekhta aaya hoon. Tab bhi aandolan reservation pe tha aur aaj bhi. Shaayad usse pehle bhi reservation pe hi raha hoga. Beech main ek aadh break hota hai yeh discuss karne ke liye ki shaadi ke liye kaunse gotra/gaon chhode jaayein. Beech main ek aandolan nahin suna jab yeh demand kiya gaya ho ki falana gaon main achhe school khulwa do, ya schools main achhi teacher bharti karr lo, ya computer lagwa do school main. How do you expect someone who doesn't know ABCD till class 6 to become a doctor through reservations? Aaj tak kisi aandolan ne sports facilities ki demand kari hai- Jats are one of the most physcially endowed race in India. If you give them good facilities, you can see many youngsters from villages excelling in sports, which would be financially much more beneficial than a conductor's job. And there are so many other things which would help much much more than reservations (which can actually cause quite a bit of harm). So won't these things have helped much more in the development of the community rather than reservations? And if so, then why don't the so called leaders of the community touch on these rather than continue harping on the reservation issue, which they have been doing as far as I my memory goes. That is the question we are trying to ask here.
Doctor banega aap aur hum jaison mein se koi, aur woh bhi bina kaabliyat ke, kyunki hamaare paas resources honge. Reservation milne ke baad koi gurnaam singh ki report nahin padhne waala. Sab apne bal-bachhon ki pehle sochenge. Aur jo abhi 4-6 hazaar ki naukri dhoond rahe hain, woh tab bhi wahi dhoond rahe honge. Naaki 40 hazaaar ki. Unmain se kuchh ek ki lag bhi jaayegi chapraasi ya conductor ya constable ki naukri (abhi bhi bahuton ki lagti hai, tab shaayad ek aadh extra ki lag jaayegi). Par majority ki to fir bhi nahin lagegi kyunki utni sarkaari naukriyan hain hi nahin. Unka kya? Zameen bech nahin sakte kyunki woh to Jat ki maan hoti hai. Aur business to kamine baaniye karte hain.
Toh middle aur upper class waalon ke bachhe banege doctor engineer IAS through reservations. Jinki haalat buri hai, unmain se kuchh ki lag jaayegi 4-6 hazaar ki naukri- baaki ke halaat ya to badtar honge ya fir woh anti-social ban jaayenge. You don't need an Einstein to figure out who is benefiting from this.
