Haryana Assembly Elections 09: Khabar, Zayza, Mahol, Halaat!!

[vicky84]

Atish Rohtak mein kab kya hoga koi nahi keh sakta. Captain Inder Singh ne Hooda ko rohtak se hara diya tha aur use koi janta tak nahi tha.
Rahi baat dangi ki to sayad poore haryana mein sabse ghatiya MLA apna hai. Vote chahe koi kisi ko de lekin ye baat congress ke khas suppoters bhi kehte sunai dte hain. Mein gaon gaya tha wahan ye halat dekhe hain. Baaki to time batayega ki kya hota hai.Log Hooda ke chakkar mein vote denge siraf.

Bhai bilkul ho sakta hai ki Dangi ne koi kaam nahi kiya...but party ki lehar ke chakkar mai Dangi vote le jaayega...win margin kam ho sakta hai..baaki dekhte hain kya results aate hain....

 

[samarkadian]

Till now we have been discussing roughly about seats, parties but Issues : Muddhe were not discussed so far. Everyone knows that Congress is riding on a wave and due this wave , numerous ticket seekers have poped up. Their behaviour is creating a bad image in public instead of ground work. This way a Ride can kickback too.

Anyways, What should be the Issues ; Muddhe on which Opposition shall take on their campaign ?

2. Out of 90 , How many seats , according to you,are going to be interesting, close and hot ? Which are those seats and candidates?

 

[anilsangwan]

Samar bhai.... abhi tak Congress ne tickets dee hi nahi hain..... Hot seat ka to bera jab paatega jab sabb candidate maidaan mein aaa jaangey...

As of now, I feel that following are going to be Hot seats:

1. Uchana Kalan ---- OPC Vs Birender Singh ( Dekhna yeh hai ki hooda saab kiski help kartey hain) :rock..INLD has a storng position here because Prof Sampat Singh took a 'lead' of 33000 votes in LS elections. So, jaisa ki last time Narwana ke poorey state ki nazar thee....iss baar Uchana pe hongi !!!

2. Fatehabad (Ticket allocation point of view) - Prof Sampat Singh Vs Duraram Vs Kunal Bhadoo (CM's Son in Law). Once ticket is allocated, picture will be clear.

3. Beri and Meham - As discussed by people above. Candidates will win (if they will) only because of "Hooda", "Rohtak ki chaudhar" and "Congress wave" factors.

Till now we have been discussing roughly about seats, parties but Issues : Muddhe were not discussed so far. Everyone knows that Congress is riding on a wave and due this wave , numerous ticket seekers have poped up. Their behaviour is creating a bad image in public instead of ground work. This way a Ride can kickback too.

Anyways, What should be the Issues ; Muddhe on which Opposition shall take on their campaign ?

2. Out of 90 , How many seats , according to you,are going to be interesting, close and hot ? Which are those seats and candidates?

 

[rameshw]

I was 26 years old when Haryana and Punjab became separate.

Since then, the only real politician/ leader/ administrator I have seen in Bansi Lal. He was the real deal.

however, his own head strong nature and honesty was eventually his downfall. His younger son, who was the 'heir' died young and his elder son, I have heard is a good human being but lacks the dynamism.

All other leaders have mostly focused on their own bank balances. Some thought laathi will rule everyone and everything whereas others have a more business like approach, focussing only on certain areas.

haryana (and infact india) needs a leader like Bansi Lal again. A well read Jat, who can be honest and headstrong and think for improving the whole state/ India and not just his own area or pockets.

I would like to be optimistic, but I do not see any such leaders coming up. Wonder what happened to the Bansi Lal family though...maybe the 3rd generation, Shruti everyone knows like Kiran is not their family (even if by blood). If deepender can jump in, what about the son of mahendra or sons of bansi lal's daughters?

 

[badgujarsampat]

Why JATs are voting in favour of CM Hooda ?

Refugees have no choice...but to vote him, otherwise they would be first to vote for their candidate...

But why JATs are blindly following him..? what has he done ? except for giving few contracts/ tenders...to Rohtakwalas...

Its a chance for MEHAM BERI HASSANGARH etc people to show them the door!!

Some say CONGRESS wave will help DANGI..arey bhai why wave...jab kaam hi nahin karey to...?

Ladka ladki ne yo rajasthaniya ke byahve hai..koi ottaniyan kona haryana main...

 

[rameshw]

Deepender hooda has also shown good promise. He is young but is promising

however I think he has a lot to learn. he is still a kid. he learnt business in USA, he has learnt business from his father also in india

but if he does good work, he has definitely made his platform as a future CM of haryana.

I have heard that his personality is not dynamic at all. Some sources have told me that he talks like a girl and is feeble in his decisions and decisiveness. I do not know if that is true. if it is, he should learn to overcome these weaknesses.

lets hope young guys like him take the right path. Older politicians are too much institutionalized to do any good now.

 

[badgujarsampat]

No way!!

Jo Takatvar Nahin Usko Takat Bhi NAHIN.

Deepender hooda has also shown good promise. He is young but is promising

however I think he has a lot to learn. he is still a kid. he learnt business in USA, he has learnt business from his father also in india

but if he does good work, he has definitely made his platform as a future CM of haryana.

I have heard that his personality is not dynamic at all. Some sources have told me that he talks like a girl and is feeble in his decisions and decisiveness. I do not know if that is true. if it is, he should learn to overcome these weaknesses.

lets hope young guys like him take the right path. Older politicians are too much institutionalized to do any good now.

 

[anilsangwan]

however, his own head strong nature and honesty was eventually his downfall. His younger son, who was the 'heir' died young and his elder son, I have heard is a good human being but lacks the dynamism.

Agree on whatever you wrote for Bansilal except above paragraph. But Surender Singh was nowhere even in comparision to Chaudhary Bansilal.

Surender made many mistakes in his political/social career. It was not Bansilal's honesty but Surender's mistakes and closeness to mafia which had put Bansilal in trouble. Everyone knows the "Riwasa Kaand", Closeness with Liquor mafia like "Satpal Pahadi" and other goons who were killed in encounters later.

About Bansilal family's future, today Kiran is strongest among all. If she can not bring back the power center to herself, no one else in Bansilal clan can.

 

[rameshw]

Agree on whatever you wrote for Bansilal except above paragraph. But Surender Singh was nowhere even in comparision to Chaudhary Bansilal.

Surender made many mistakes in his political/social career. It was not Bansilal's honesty but Surender's mistakes and closeness to mafia which had put Bansilal in trouble. Everyone knows the "Riwasa Kaand", Closeness with Liquor mafia like "Satpal Pahadi" and other goons who were killed in encounters later.

About Bansilal family's future, today Kiran is strongest among all. If she can not bring back the power center to herself, no one else in Bansilal clan can.

Yeh kaand -vaand sab ke time mein hue hain. They mean as much as you want them to mean. Whether a politician is honest or not-- media, corrupted beaurucrats, corrupted opposition leaders, selfish businessmen etc.: all the people who have stake in the power/ money will try their best to defame the person in power.

Surendra was a well liked leader. Ab ussne private life mein kya kiya, na mein jaanta hun aur na aap. he was a leader since before you were even born. You make your conclusions from what you have heard from here and there.

anyways kiran is a useless person. she was never with bansi lal. satpal pahaari was a goon of kiran and he was killed not in an encounter but by his own relative in his own house over a land feud. pahaari was not under arrest during that timeand was in his own house. (from media reports of what i remember) it does not matter either ways.

problem with bansi lal was that he would not allow wrong things to happen under him.

it is one thing to be clean and not corrupt, but another thing to turn a blind eye towards MLAs under you and let them fill their pockets. bansi lal did not let that happen and that is why they ran as they thought that their business/ job is in danger

but like many other aaya rams, most had their political careers finished in any case

as far as i know, surender was torn between his fathers great image and personna and his wife who had her own crooked ways, but in himself, he was a dynamic leader. The number of people who attended his funeral in bhiwani was unbelivable. That was how much people loved him. particularly in bhiwani

surender ofcourse was not as great as his father i totally agree. you will see that in all 2nd and 3rd generation politicians now.

look at devi lal and then chautala and then the 2 young goons of your generation...there is a difference greater than zameen-aasmaan. Chautala and company have taken devi lals name and burried his image so deep in mud that it is hard to even imagine now what it was.....
some nice people like sampat singh have opted out after their whole life time in lok dal as they could not even breathe in that environment. chautala is a corrupt dictator and should never come to power. the only soft corner i can have for him is that he is a JAT, but having said that, his actions have been low in life and very unworthy of his father.


these things are expected as life in general and social values have changed a lot. so have the values of people judging these politicians

 

[anilsangwan]

Agree with each word you wrote. carry on... :rock :rock !!!!!!!!

Yeh kaand -vaand sab ke time mein hue hain. They mean as much as you want them to mean. Whether a politician is honest or not-- media, corrupted beaurucrats, corrupted opposition leaders, selfish businessmen etc.: all the people who have stake in the power/ money will try their best to defame the person in power.

Surendra was a well liked leader. Ab ussne private life mein kya kiya, na mein jaanta hun aur na aap. he was a leader since before you were even born. You make your conclusions from what you have heard from here and there.

anyways kiran is a useless person. she was never with bansi lal. satpal pahaari was a goon of kiran and he was killed not in an encounter but by his own relative in his own house over a land feud. pahaari was not under arrest during that timeand was in his own house. (from media reports of what i remember) it does not matter either ways.

problem with bansi lal was that he would not allow wrong things to happen under him.

it is one thing to be clean and not corrupt, but another thing to turn a blind eye towards MLAs under you and let them fill their pockets. bansi lal did not let that happen and that is why they ran as they thought that their business/ job is in danger

but like many other aaya rams, most had their political careers finished in any case

as far as i know, surender was torn between his fathers great image and personna and his wife who had her own crooked ways, but in himself, he was a dynamic leader. The number of people who attended his funeral in bhiwani was unbelivable. That was how much people loved him. particularly in bhiwani

surender ofcourse was not as great as his father i totally agree. you will see that in all 2nd and 3rd generation politicians now.

look at devi lal and then chautala and then the 2 young goons of your generation...there is a difference greater than zameen-aasmaan. Chautala and company have taken devi lals name and burried his image so deep in mud that it is hard to even imagine now what it was.....
some nice people like sampat singh have opted out after their whole life time in lok dal as they could not even breathe in that environment. chautala is a corrupt dictator and should never come to power. the only soft corner i can have for him is that he is a JAT, but having said that, his actions have been low in life and very unworthy of his father.


these things are expected as life in general and social values have changed a lot. so have the values of people judging these politicians

 

[rameshw]

Agree with each word you wrote. carry on... :rock :rock !!!!!!!!

Carry on toe tumhari generation ke ladkon ne karna hai. Deepender bhi ussi generation ka hai. atleast one good aspect is that the leaders of tomorrow are atleast well read and have seen life with international perspectives also.

 

[badgujarsampat]

Is AJAY CHAUTALA a goon ?

He is the most admired politician of this generation..and younger ones.

He is the only politician now a days who have established himself as a real working politician.
His ground support is HUGE.

He along with SHRUTI will be CMs of HARYANA one day!

SHRUTI will be next INDIRA.
Her destiny is very strong otherwise she would have never won from BHIWANI.
There is something in-store for her for sure.

 

[rinkusheoran]

Is AJAY CHAUTALA a goon ?

He is the most admired politician of this generation..and younger ones.

He is the only politician now a days who have established himself as a real working politician.
His ground support is HUGE.

He along with SHRUTI will be CMs of HARYANA one day!

SHRUTI will be next INDIRA.
Her destiny is very strong otherwise she would have never won from BHIWANI.
There is something in-store for her for sure.

Agar baap-dada ke marne se destiny strong hoti hai to iss destiny ka k fayda?
emotional factor always wins against all other factor be it casteism, religion, regional, terrro, manhgai . sabte badhkar hota hai ye factor but it can be played only once...iste aaayen baar daal konya galti.

 

[samarkadian]

Badgurjar ji., Neither Ajay nor Shruti is contesting. You come to Jhajjar, Rohtak Disst n then propel the report of work done. Can you explain why there is a little anti-incumbancy?

Anil:- Dnt forget Charkhi Dadri, None of party has declared its candidate. It is sure a hot seat. I bet Master Hukum Singh if given ticket would manage to beg this after Delimitation.

Rameshwar Dalal Sir:- Ranbir Mahendera has no ground and no constituency. He only has face of Bansilal . Nothing else seems to be inherited.

 

[rinkusheoran]

Frankly I am not much involved in Haryana politics and conditions but one thing I FAIL TO UNDERSTAND is any Congress govt asking votes based on what they WILL do.

Congress is aparty that has ruled India for ample amount of time , at Centre , in states. This last tenure has been ideal from the point of view of Congress having a stable govt in state and centre and still they cannot fulfill the promises? This is probably the maximum leverage any govt. , person , party , CM can get.

Does that tell me that Congress was incapable earlier?

Rightly put up Anil, one more thing i ll tell
in recent past i heard Rahul Gandhi saying that 'only 16 paise out of 100 paise reach where it should go' . he was praised for being candid and bold, his father late Rajiv gandhi said '10 paise out of 100 reah where it should reach' and he too was commended for the same at that time.

Ebb inn tain nuy koi na puchta( congressi to puch hi na sakte kyunki vo sadda pindi pakkad rahe sain) ki thare parivar ne sara raaj kiya aur thare raaj mein hi kadde 10 to kadde 16 piase out of 100paise mein se pahunchta hai to, ye galti kiski hai, think over it??????????
Bolte hai ganne ka bhav badha diya to ye nahi dekhte ki ganne ke 20% badhaya hai to sala chinni ka 80% badh gaya n same applies to other products as well.
Corruption always go from top to bottom not vice versa.

Aur iss baar sunne mein aa raha hai ki congress ki ticket ka 5-10 crore ka rate hai along with tagri sifarish.( ye congress ke ek MP se sunna tha).

 

[anilsangwan]

Samar... Dadri ki seat mein se kya kamm kiya hai aur kya add kiya hai.;.. any idea?

I will consider Dadri a hot seat only when a strong candidate is fielded by Congress as you rightly said.... but as of now, if it is Maj saab... then I find congress weak there....

Satpal is also strong candidate...last time he managed to get very close to winning candidate.... so not sure what will happen. but yes, it can be a hot seat in coming days....

2005 Election data for DADRI:

CAND_NAME TOTAL VOTES POSITION

NIRPENDER ----- 29164 ------------ 1
SATPAL -------------27874 --------- 2

Badgurjar ji., Neither Ajay nor Shruti is contesting. You come to Jhajjar, Rohtak Disst n then propel the report of work done. Can you explain why there is a little anti-incumbancy?

Anil:- Dnt forget Charkhi Dadri, None of party has declared its candidate. It is sure a hot seat. I bet Master Hukum Singh if given ticket would manage to beg this after Delimitation.

Rameshwar Dalal Sir:- Ranbir Mahendera has no ground and no constituency. He only has face of Bansilal . Nothing else seems to be inherited.

 

[dskadyan]

have to build a new platform?

Bhai yeh neta nahi 80% people are corrupt, kamchor, incompetent and follower.

1. Every Govt Teaching from JBT - University lecturer on STrike, Mudda -Hike Pay. Aur believe me 90% of them not deserve half the salary they are getting. Aur they are so shameless ki first year ki ek bhi class nahi lee jo ki bechare raji ho ke aye the ki selection ho gaya hai.

2. Jab dekho road jam kardete hai. Kyon bhai, why road jam. Kisse ki chori bhaj ja toh road jam, Pani nahi aya toh road jam.

3. Corrupt politician and rally mein nyu jate hai ke ek time apne chore ki barata mein bhi na jaweein. reason : Chora lagawa dega neta, are uske baap ki sarkar hai kya, hamari sarakar aur neta maalik ban jate hai.

4. Aur pher apne yeh system, baba adam ke time ki cheezein. western thinking and nothing indigenous.

5. pher apa log yahan chatar patar karte hai aur baad mein raji ho jate hai ke le bhai hum bhi leader hai.

Kuch aur karna padega. I am fed with all this queque, garbage,injustice and bhai bahtija wad.

Lekin step bahut bold hoga, aur kissi short term and direct fayde ki umeed bhi nahi hai. Toh kya kiya jaye. Any suggestion.

any body intested, if so have to act fast.:rockYehi election mein karna hai. Aur sab jagah se karna hai.

 

[badgujarsampat]

Tu nu bata de congress ne kara ke se ?

Dangi arr dactor ki to bolti bandh hai....bera hain..mooh kholya to ticket kati.

Becoz of work done by congress in 1970-80.. & before and after independence era....people are supporting congress even now.....

Can you tell me why in assembly segments like GURGAON ...congress will win ..who so ever be the candidate...

Backward caste and SC /ST are blind supporters of CONGRESS since day 1.
UNKA mooh to reservation ne bandh kar rakhya hain..

IS karan Congress ke vote hamesha ghane ho ja se.


Can you tell me why there is no leader in congress who can win an election if he resign from congress and fight on ticket of another party/ independent ????
Including your HOODA ..Vo bhi aaj ki date main...BOL EEB...

 

[anilsangwan]

Sorry to jump in between sir... but I wanted to know who is this Dactor? Bhiwani wala Bhardwaj ya fer koi aur? Dangi I could understand that you are talking about Anand Singh Dangi....

Dangi arr dactor ki to bolti bandh hai....bera hain..mooh kholya to ticket kati.

...

 

[samarkadian]

Badgurjar Ji ..Aade plot na katate aur na mere ghar ki sarkar se. simple discussion hai Sar manna howo..Aap bujarg ho aur aapke view aapki jagah theek honge..Arr na mai congress ka spokesman aur na Hooda ka..Isi ke kachkachi uthe sai aade kushti karan ki bajaye bhar do nomination aur pher banwao seperate state..Aade ta harmony ta rah nahi sakte..banaoge nyra USSR..Put your argument logicaly instead of sar howing..

Anil:- Phogats ke 10-12 Gaon plus Sanwad etc wale Dadri mein aaye which were earlier in Mundhal. Major ka byont khatam..Bhupinder Phogat is another contender. Sangwans village arent happy with Major or Satpal. To them Satpal is Dogla n dhokhebaaj.