casually written things results into casualties ... is there any harm to be modest and sincere with our elders here...?
dont quote me..just DONT quote me..I dont even know you..n this doesnt even concern you
n dont be a preacher again
casually written things results into casualties ... is there any harm to be modest and sincere with our elders here...?
Racism is the belief that race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial difference produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. In the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits, or get preferential treatment.
That is the literal definition of racism from a primary source of modern world. Ignominious incidents of attacks on Asians in Australia have been a cynosure for couple of months now. And a source to start this thread on the forum. We are hearing almost every week that a bevy of youngsters attacked an Indian taxi driver, a student or a professional. This may or may not fall in the category of racism. These may have been by lower class drug addicted junky’s way of hatching a bit of money for their hallucinations. There is least possibility of retort at the spot. Moreover, An Asian would not like to report these to authorities due to legal reasons or better say selfish ones. It is in fact very unfortunate and irreversible disservice for families who have lost their sons in this fire of foreign territory. Had it been limited to just once in a while criminal attacks for the purpose of looting, hardly, it would have gain a status of concern for government of Australia and India. But the frequencies of unruly attacks have made it visible to all. It has crossed the criminal sphere for sure. Also it has shown reality of dollar land to many aspirants. A torrid blow to Australian civilized image, currency and manpower. Australian government has been adamant over accepting these attacks as racial. Indian useless media has put the enough pressure on both Governments through their cult classic drivel. Lately, there have been reports that it has turned in to racial discrimination as per literal definition. Asians have been denied entrance in many civilized institutions of leisure. Now this is alarming and I would say a return to British way. This is Racism because it is inclusive of all blue and white collars professional.Tacital discrimination do not despoil the money but somewhere a deep attack on self-esteem . Looted money can be reversed but self-esteem can not be. This is not physical attack which can be parenthesized as a random incident of loot.
Why This Happens:
This is not that difficult to understand. I would just not flow in gush of patriotic feelings. Every human being, like animals, is filled with the instinct of Territory. Any foreign object in territory leads to a conflict and often a aggressive conflict including physical handling. Few radical mindsets consider it a conscience call to run the foreign object out of the territory. We have seen this happened last year in Maharashtra, when Raj Thakrey gang had beaten up North Indians. It was the cause of same sentiment. There is still a difference between Maharashtra and Australian racial attacks. India overall has an image of third world and uncivilized as compared to First World countries. Australia as a developed country along with set civilized rules is far ahead so they are prone to more criticism and questioning when it comes to natural rights of human behavior. It has contoured itself as a destination to be lived and worked.These claims seems to make them more humane than others. So the question is How, When and What Australian government must do? Bigger question stands and asks What is the way to deal and handle racism legaly and socialy?
Experiences of Jats overseas:
On the matter stated above , thread would like to have unbiased view from Jats overseas.
It could be of a racial attack, racial tacit discrimination at work. More important would be to know the way they had handled it or didn’t handle. What are their suggestions in case of such decadent incidents? Please contribute!
Safety:-
Obviously one can’t be pranced and straddle when subjected to such spiteful and frivolous acts but capitulation is not the right answer as well. I would like members to express their views about safe and safe exit.
PS: Please just do not yodel over people'c choice to go overseas. It is quite idiosyncratic issue pertaining to livlihood.
Dear Samar, in my opinion this is completely a hype created from Indian media..Media is creating stories resulting in distorting the bilateral relationship between two nation..I hope Indian media and Indian Diplomats should look into matter very seriously before passing some ludicrous statements.
Atish bhai, Would you mind a bit to prove it yourway?
very apt reply..good on yaI am living in Aus from last 4.5 years and never had a bad experience here. .
as an afterthought..advise them not to settle in West Melbourne n the ghettos there..
went there once by mistake and left me wondering..jeez..m I even in Aus. ?
dont quote me..just DONT quote me..I dont even know you..n this doesnt even concern you
n dont be a preacher again
Precautions as I feel, a) KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THAT NATION, THEIR PEOPLE, THEIR TRADITIONS, SYSTEMS, LOCAL LAWS, REPORTING SYSTEMS,,
B) mix like water in their social, cultural & legal system, donot keep more cash/valuables on person or at residance,
c) be visilent always,
d) donot start any arguement & it is batter to avoide the trouble,
e) Hire residential accomodation in batter areas away from druggies.
f) In the presence of locals, talk only in english, donot jock with them,
g) have real unity in defending yourselves, avoide exccess drinking at public places,
h) donot show your fear even if you have,
j) display highest standard of self discipline, specially in dealing with women, playing music at night or any other such activity,
k) be more careful from friday evening till sunday midnight.
l) avoide going to lonely places, m) if possible & law permits keep some weapon, which can be used for self defence,
n) coop with fellow Indians & finally have faith in self & the almighty.
Yudhvir Sahab, You think or you know about what Australian govt is doing to cut short these incidents? Be precise. Up to now they were highly reluctant to even accept it. There has been perfunctory acceptance and implicit condemnation by middle level Australian authorities.Its 20% reality and 80% media hype.. I am not sure why media is not talking about racism in Bangalore,Mumbai and Chennai with North Indians.
However, Its a good stance by Indian govt to raise this issue with Australian authorities. I am sure Australia is listening and they don't want to loose 7 Billion per year industry to UK & US.
People are painting everything with same brush, whenever any asian is involved in any incident, they put it under same chapter of Racism. I think Australian authorities are doing everything to prevent these kind of incidents.
Even in our country, We heard so many molestation or rapes incidents involving foreigners. There are culprits in every society.
i agree with u bro
i lived in melbourne for 4 yrs n never find that racism thing
every society hav few people who cause the problems
thats same in melbourne
only few racist people and more work done by the media
no country is perfect but australia is far better than other countries
i can say more than 80% people are very good n friendly
tha bashing up in melbourne is not only with indians
its with other people as well
but the media shows up only indian side
from my point of view its all becoz of police n law in australia
police hav less rights than an ordinary person but still they can do a lot but they just doing their duty as usual
Racism is everywhere but in some places it plays a dominant role and Australia is one of those places. In India we do not see much racism, rather we can say that castism and regionalism do exist in India. Racism in real sense is hate against a particular race and it is true that it does exist in Australia and it is visible too. One of my close friend is living in Sydney for the last more than a decade and he admits about its existence.
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I smell a rat that some scum barge into discussion without having a clue of it, could have some mental retardness issues..Isn't it.
Good move by Govt... should also discourage this mad rush for Foreign Education. Australia doesn't have good institutes. Many 'good' students are being lured for some cheap money (plus the charm of foreign land) and ending up as 'good for nothing'.
http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/jan/29/avoid-australia-for-now-govt-to-indian-students.htm
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Serving to the mood of readers: http://news.rediff.com/slide-show/2010/jan/29/slide-show-1-australians-worlds-biggest-sinners.htm
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Media over-hyped or NOT (some ppl even say that many Indian/Asians do not report to police such incidents as they fear it might hamper their chances of getting PR), one thing is for sure these incidents are reaffirming (at least in mind of Indiansl) image of Australians as ruffians, inherently criminals (aboriginal genocide, a point in case) exiled to a barren land by British.![]()
I agree with you word-by-word.Whatever Aussies will do, You'll find queue in front of Australia embassy in Delhi. Reasons are quite simple..
1. Life is damn comfortable outside India in developed countries
2. Good scope to make money
3. Person with average skill set can make almost 10 times of what they make in india.
4. No unnecessary relatives to bother you on weekends.
5. Law enforcement agencies won't discriminate you. I strongly agree with it.
6. You kids can get some real sense of life by avoiding IIT rat race.
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