Ajit Singh- Past and furure leadership - evaluation and prospects

Sorry Sir, I differ

Virender, Ch Devilal didnot bring Chautala sahab but due to his batter leadership qualities, being batter jat & powerful in many respect, he captured power himself. Secondly, VP Singh was given chair of PM by Ch Devilal, he never brought down his govt, infact VP betraid Ch sahab. My dear brother, EXCEPT WEAKNESS FOR MONEY,Chautla is a real jat, a strong leader & very capable Administrator, Also Chautala sahab has helped jats more than any other jat leader. Media may write any thing but in reality Ch Charan singh & Ch Devilal both were Kisan leaders, It is Chautala who came up as jat leader, thus no comperison with AJIT. Also Ch Charan singh never helped Ajit to take over his place, these were chamchas from our community as well as fom the party managed easy takeover for him. But unfortunately Ajit failed on all accounts. regards

Dear Sir,
I had followed the events of Janta Party coming to power, and the Watch Smuggling Case. Ch. Devi Lal was lauded for his bold statement of disowning Mr. Chautala at that time. Secondly, the differences between Ch. Devi Lal and Mr. V P Singh; came to the break point over Ch. Devi Lal's insistance of making Mr. Chautala the CM. Your statement above may be digested by our innocent voters for that is what was told to them by our own leaders, but not by the person who had followed the events.
Secondly, do you think if Ch. Devi Lal could become the PM he would have allowed any one else to become the PM. We must remember that the Third Front won the election on the promise that V P Singh will be the PM, that was the popularity of Mr. V P Singh at that time. So, let us not distort the facts.
Now regarding Ch. Charan Singh not helping Ch. Ajit Singh to take over the leadership of the party, I don't think that is true. If Ch. Charan Singh did not want that, no one else could do any thing, that was the hold of Ch. Charan Singh over the party. As far as Ch. Ajit Singh is concerned, I don't think he was as powerful in front of Ch. Charan Singh as you claim that Mr. Chautala was in front of Ch. Devi Lal (which I don't agree to) that he would have snatched the leadership.
Now your statement, about Mr. Chautala's weakness for the money, that is good enough disqualification for someone to lead the state. Regarding doing something for Jats, I don't know what had been done for Jats by Mr. Chautala or for that matter any one else. The only meaningful work done for the farmer community was by Ch. Charan Singh by raising the prices of Sugercane during his first term as the CM of UP. Rest of the work has been posting their followers to lucrative posts where they could make more money in bribes etc, if that is what people call work for the community, I am sorry, I don't subcribe to the idea.
And last but not the least, they need to be leaders of all the communities, whether in UP or in Haryana or in Rajasthan, Jats alone can't get them to power. And in any case I am interested in the entire state and not only the Jat Constituency.
 
Brother, I have not only followed the events but know inside story of Ch devi lal & chautala, anyway my views are based on facts, my own experiences & understanding, so these may or may not be agreed by you.Please see who doesnot have weakness & I donot say that chautala is great leader but what ever I said is correct to my mind. Any way please ignore what so ever doesnot appeal to your mind. regards
 
So far no one has come forward to add to or defend Ajit Singh’s records of the past 30? years.

My intention is not to indulge in Ajit Singh’ bashing’, but rather to see whether new leadership is now required by the Jats( and non Jats) of Western U.P.

Younger leaders will emerge, as they always do, and will take charge.

Ajit Singh must now be well over 60 years old, and with the effect of Father Time he will fade away.

Is there something Ajit Singh can do to reverse his fortunes?


Ravi Chaudhary
 
Ajit has already brought his son "Jayant Ch." into politics. Jayant is very active in Western UP area and I am sure he is going to be the heir of Ajit's Bagpat seat. Whether we jatlanders like it or not but people of Bagpat just love Ajit and I am sure they are going to support whole heartedly his son as well. Ajit's influence is anyway not in entire western UP, it's only the bagpat Lok Sabha seat that he is confident on. I dont think he can say the same about any other LS seat in the vicinity.

On other LS seats I believe that congress, SP and BSP has better hold then Ajit's RLD or even Tikait. Ajit and Tikait both are paper tigers in Western UP politics.

So far no one has come forward to add to or defend Ajit Singh’s records of the past 30? years.

My intention is not to indulge in Ajit Singh’ bashing’, but rather to see whether new leadership is now required by the Jats( and non Jats) of Western U.P.

Younger leaders will emerge, as they always do, and will take charge.

Ajit Singh must now be well over 60 years old, and with the effect of Father Time he will fade away.

Is there something Ajit Singh can do to reverse his fortunes?


Ravi Chaudhary
 
Ajit has already brought his son "Jayant Ch." into politics. Jayant is very active in Western UP area and I am sure he is going to be the heir of Ajit's Bagpat seat. Whether we jatlanders like it or not but people of Bagpat just love Ajit and I am sure they are going to support whole heartedly his son as well. Ajit's influence is anyway not in entire western UP, it's only the bagpat Lok Sabha seat that he is confident on. I dont think he can say the same about any other LS seat in the vicinity.

On other LS seats I believe that congress, SP and BSP has better hold then Ajit's RLD or even Tikait. Ajit and Tikait both are paper tigers in Western UP politics.


Vijay Brother,
dont know why you appreciating the Dynastic politics which ruined the baghpat and turned it one of the most backward Parliament seat in western UP.
Dont tell people of Baghpat love them only JAT of Baghpat district support them.I want to know what kind of Activity/movement/demand/demonstration is being carried out By Jayant and Ajit in Western UP. Being a Young educated MP did Jayant demonstrate for any problem since he is MP from Mathura. Forget about whole western UP? Did he raise any question and issue in parliament?
See the result of 2009 lok sabha in baghapt:
Mukesh Sharma BSP 175611
Sahab Singh SP 45644
Sompal INC 136964
Ajit Singh(Winner) RLD 238638

Total Vote was : 600726
Difference between Ist Candidate and 2nd candidate only approx: 65,000.
This is the actual plus vote he got in Chaprauli vidhan sabha (a jat dominated seat)and this the only reason he won every time. If Mr. Sompal did;nt fight this 2009 election ,,Muskesh wud have been the MP...Every time he used to lead by over 1 lac vote in chaprauli through booth capuring. In other Vidhan sabha he is not coming even on 1st number.
 
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Where did I say that I appreciate dynastic politics or Ajit or Jayant. I do NOT as I never even voted in the elections. Nothing to be proud of of course. Now does it matter what I think? No matter what me or you think, ultimately it's the people who vote decide whom they want to send in the parliament. They surely love Ajit, and are sending him in the Lok Sabha. He will continue to represent Bagpat LS constituency and later Jayant. Agree or not, Ajit is the symbol of "JAT" prestige in Bagpat and therefore they dont see any logic or reasons, they just want to uphold that prestige. You think if Sompal has not fought the election then Mukesh Sharma would have won, I dont know how you make such conclusions?

Vijay Brother,
dont know why you appreciating the Dynastic politics which ruined the baghpat and turned it one of the most backward Parliament seat in western UP.
Dont tell people of Baghpat love them only JAT of Baghpat district support them.I want to know what kind of Activity/movement/demand/demonstration is being carried out By Jayant and Ajit in Western UP. Being a Young educated MP did Jayant demonstrate for any problem since he is MP from Mathura. Forget about whole western UP? Did he raise any question and issue in parliament?
See the result of 2009 lok sabha in baghapt:
Mukesh Sharma BSP 175611
Sahab Singh SP 45644
Sompal INC 136964
Ajit Singh(Winner) RLD 238638

Total Vote was : 600726
Difference between Ist Candidate and 2nd candidate only approx: 65,000.
This is the actual plus vote he got in Chaprauli vidhan sabha (a jat dominated seat)and this the only reason he won every time. If Mr. Sompal did;nt fight this 2009 election ,,Muskesh wud have been the MP...Every time he used to lead by over 1 lac vote in chaprauli through booth capuring. In other Vidhan sabha he is not coming even on 1st number.
 
Wah re wah Kisano ke Leader

http://in.jagran.yahoo.com/news/local/uttarpradesh/4_1_6228635.html
http://www.amarujala.com/archive/fu...ci=mng&day=4&dis=ÕëãSÂçÌßæÚ&mdis=׿¿ü&yy=2010

:DMr. Ajit Singh reached in Muzzafarrnagar Villages in UP for congratulating farmers for raising their own demand for sugar cane price :o also he collected nearly about sum of Rs. 50 Lakh as claimed by their party workers. Large part of money even routed through their own political leaders and other people who would be seeking ticket for MLA in coming 2012 UP Vidhan sabha election. On one side MR. Ajit Singh congratulating farmers for raising their own voices and also told to farmers that they helped in raising voice for them so His party deserve to collect money for his RLD party. Wah Re wah Jaton aaj koi school ke liye ya kisi samajik kaam key liye agar tumsey koi chanda le to usko tum poltics kehetey ho aur peechley itney salon se ek hi parivar khuleaam UP ke JATON ko bechta aa raha hey Usko tum chanda detey ho.
Sabsey badi baat yeh yeh Ke Jis Distt mein meeting ho rahi thi waha aaney wale 20-30 salon tak koi devlopment nahi honey wala.land agar aquire hogi to woh sirf "Delhi" ke charon taraf.:D
Mr. Ajit pareshan hey to JAT Reservation demand se. Who kabhi yeh nahi chahtey key JATON ko reservation miley. Agar Jaton ko Naukri Milney lagi fir “Sugar cane” ka mudda aur unki 30 salon ki rajneeti kaisey jinda rahegi..
Mr. Ajit Singh and his party MLA/MP even not spending full money on any development work in their own constituency than how he can collect such huge money from "Poor JAT Farmers".
 
you carry some sick personal and/or political vendetta.

tell me what do you want to prove here ?... aren't you satisfied with above replies that ajit singh is a failure and good for nothing.


please dont spew your hatred over here.


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piush_tomar said:
Wah re wah Kisano ke Leader

 
you carry some sick personal and/or political vendetta.

tell me what do you want to prove here ?... aren't you satisfied with above replies that ajit singh is a failure and good for nothing.


please dont spew your hatred over here.








Ismey Galat Kya hey agar I am sharring news with community about wrong leadership...?woh khuleaam yeh ghatiya khel khelta rahe aur hum chup rahe..?
 
Where did I say that I appreciate dynastic politics or Ajit or Jayant. I do NOT as I never even voted in the elections. Nothing to be proud of of course. Now does it matter what I think? No matter what me or you think, ultimately it's the people who vote decide whom they want to send in the parliament. They surely love Ajit, and are sending him in the Lok Sabha. He will continue to represent Bagpat LS constituency and later Jayant. Agree or not, Ajit is the symbol of "JAT" prestige in Bagpat and therefore they dont see any logic or reasons, they just want to uphold that prestige. You think if Sompal has not fought the election then Mukesh Sharma would have won, I dont know how you make such conclusions?


I will not offer any comments about Ajit as we already have enough of it. I would like to comment that inspite of his dynastic lineage, I find Jayant as a sensible, serious and better politician. He seems to have inherited some of the qualities of Ch. Charan Singh the great visionary. But he has to prove his mettle in the coming time as things are changing and merely dynastic lineage will not work.
 
I dont find anything wrong in this? Where does the article says that Ajit FORCED people to give donation for party funds? As Brahm said you just have some political vendetta against Ajit and therefore keep trying to malign him. You dont see how people support him, your these 2 links are testimony of that. I never heard of Ajit asking for money but still people collect huge sums and offer him that. In Baraut it's not even Jats but Baniyas that donate him large sum of money as donations from time to time. You are just wasting your energy dreaming about the defeat of Ajit. It;s not Jatlanders that vote anyway in elections. Here 99% of us are Internet tigers only and those voters who vote for Ajit dont even know the spelling of Internet.

http://in.jagran.yahoo.com/news/local/uttarpradesh/4_1_6228635.html
http://www.amarujala.com/archive/fullnews.asp?filename=03Mng1M&id=6002943&cat=up&pda=3/4/2010&ci=mng&day=4&dis=ÕëãSÂçÌßæÚ&mdis=׿¿ü&yy=2010

:DMr. Ajit Singh reached in Muzzafarrnagar Villages in UP for congratulating farmers for raising their own demand for sugar cane price :o also he collected nearly about sum of Rs. 50 Lakh as claimed by their party workers. Large part of money even routed through their own political leaders and other people who would be seeking ticket for MLA in coming 2012 UP Vidhan sabha election. On one side MR. Ajit Singh congratulating farmers for raising their own voices and also told to farmers that they helped in raising voice for them so His party deserve to collect money for his RLD party. Wah Re wah Jaton aaj koi school ke liye ya kisi samajik kaam key liye agar tumsey koi chanda le to usko tum poltics kehetey ho aur peechley itney salon se ek hi parivar khuleaam UP ke JATON ko bechta aa raha hey Usko tum chanda detey ho.
Sabsey badi baat yeh yeh Ke Jis Distt mein meeting ho rahi thi waha aaney wale 20-30 salon tak koi devlopment nahi honey wala.land agar aquire hogi to woh sirf "Delhi" ke charon taraf.:D
Mr. Ajit pareshan hey to JAT Reservation demand se. Who kabhi yeh nahi chahtey key JATON ko reservation miley. Agar Jaton ko Naukri Milney lagi fir “Sugar cane” ka mudda aur unki 30 salon ki rajneeti kaisey jinda rahegi..
Mr. Ajit Singh and his party MLA/MP even not spending full money on any development work in their own constituency than how he can collect such huge money from "Poor JAT Farmers".
 
I dont find anything wrong in this? Where does the article says that Ajit FORCED people to give donation for party funds? As Brahm said you just have some political vendetta against Ajit and therefore keep trying to malign him. You dont see how people support him, your these 2 links are testimony of that. I never heard of Ajit asking for money but still people collect huge sums and offer him that. In Baraut it's not even Jats but Baniyas that donate him large sum of money as donations from time to time. You are just wasting your energy dreaming about the defeat of Ajit. It;s not Jatlanders that vote anyway in elections. Here 99% of us are Internet tigers only and those voters who vote for Ajit dont even know the spelling of Internet.

HOW MUCH MONEY IS ALLOCATED AND SPENT ON DEVLOPMENT WORK BY BAGHPAT LOK SABHA MP/MLA OF RLD:
http://bagpat.nic.in/MP-MLA.htm
 
Ismey Galat Kya hey agar I am sharring news with community about wrong leadership...?woh khuleaam yeh ghatiya khel khelta rahe aur hum chup rahe..?

tu kade chup baithe hai bhai... I saw your posts on orkut communities also. I don't know whether your maligning his image or not but I am sure you have some personal reasons to spit so much venom about Ajit Singh...

Arre itnae karantikari vichar hain apke toh Bhagat singh baan jaa ar Goli maar de iske..
 
एक आइडिया और है मेरे पास...

भाई इन्टरनेट टाईगर इस्सा है एक काम और कर... बागपत और बडौत की
सारी शुगर मीलों की लाट (चिम्नीस) पे चढ़ ज्या और जोर जोर से चिल्ला... गर कोई ना सुने त लोगां के लत्ते और फाड़ने शुरू कर दे... शायद कोई सुन ले... तू ही एकला रह गया जिसने बागपत की उन्नत्ति का ठेका ले राख्या है.

अबजै समझा अक ना.

yudhvirmor said:
tu kade chup baithe hai bhai... I saw your posts on orkut communities also. I don't know whether your maligning his image or not but I am sure you have some personal reasons to spit so much venom about Ajit Singh...

Arre itnae karantikari vichar hain apke toh Bhagat singh baan jaa ar Goli maar de iske..

vijay123 said:
As Brahm said you just have some political vendetta against Ajit and therefore keep trying to malign him.
 
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I opened the PDF and there are so many things going on in his name. What else do you want him to do? After all he is not UP govt. It's the responsibility of the govt to do development. The overall development needs hundred of crores these days not just few crores. Have you bothered to talk to some of farmers in Bagpat area about Ajit and get their views? Or you are just browsing Internet and forming your own views about Ajit. After all elections are not fought on Internet. It is not the people who have access to Internet and English newspaper that elect MPs. Why dont you see the contribution he made in getting fair price for sugarcane crop in UP? If you have want someone else to be elected from Bagpat or represent Jats of Western UP then you should discuss about that person informing everyone the contribution he/she is making. Just by spreading negativity about someone else is not going to make any XYZ represent Jats of Western UP.

I read somewhere ki, "kisi or ki line choti karne ki koshish mat karo balki apni line ko bada karo, doosre ki khud hi choti ho jayegi".

HOW MUCH MONEY IS ALLOCATED AND SPENT ON DEVLOPMENT WORK BY BAGHPAT LOK SABHA MP/MLA OF RLD:
http://bagpat.nic.in/MP-MLA.htm
 
What else do you want him to do? After all he is not UP govt. It's the responsibility of the govt to do development. The overall development needs hundred of crores these days not just few crores.

I beg to differ... funds given to MLA and MP are independent of government's approval and if allocated once will be used to work they are allocated for. So it is not government but MP or MLAs duty

Secondly, it is a MLA or MP who fights for bigger projects in the are and in which case Ajit and his mates are doing least for the area
 
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