ATTENTION!!!!!!!Jaat Reservation Polling

Do JAAT NEED RESERVATION


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Selection should be based on scientifically designed written test Like done by IISc

OBC ban bhi gaye JAT toh bhi kuch faraq nahin pade.

Saari sarkari naukriya ka corporatisation ho chuka hai ,
written test ke number keval screening ke liye istemaal kiye jate hain....

Interview main agar 5 post hain to 2 Sharma ki ( Sharma , Joshi , Dubey etc..etc..)
1 Refugee ki ( 20-25 lakh ka theka hota hai...bicholi maximum JAT milta hai )
1 Physical handicap ki usmein bhi kayi chochle hain..
1 Sc /ST ki.

Ismein bhi North Indian / South Indian...Bengali... Sikh....Sindhi

Region...( Jaise ki Jharkhand main PSU hain to Jharkhand ke ladke ko lena hain...Pressure from Union of workers....on GM /DGM...)

SYSTEM KO BADALNE KI ZARURAT HAIN NA KI OBC KI LIST KO!
 
OBC ban bhi gaye JAT toh bhi kuch faraq nahin pade.

Saari sarkari naukriya ka corporatisation ho chuka hai ,
written test ke number keval screening ke liye istemaal kiye jate hain....

Interview main agar 5 post hain to 2 Sharma ki ( Sharma , Joshi , Dubey etc..etc..)
1 Refugee ki ( 20-25 lakh ka theka hota hai...bicholi maximum JAT milta hai )
1 Physical handicap ki usmein bhi kayi chochle hain..
1 Sc /ST ki.

Ismein bhi North Indian / South Indian...Bengali... Sikh....Sindhi

Region...( Jaise ki Jharkhand main PSU hain to Jharkhand ke ladke ko lena hain...Pressure from Union of workers....on GM /DGM...)

SYSTEM KO BADALNE KI ZARURAT HAIN NA KI OBC KI LIST KO!

bhai iska ek he last solution hai ki har jagah handicap ne chod kar baki sab ka reservation khatam karke written test rakh do aur numbers k base per job do...........kyuki

--> dimag sab k pass ek jaisa hai chahe OBC,SC,ST ho
 
Bhai Kundu,
Delhi university main ek Yadav ki ladki ka 91% se SRCC ke B.com (H) mai OBC ke karan addmission ho gaya or General ka 94% se uppar raha.Oor sare ke sare DU ke college's main OBC ki seat's khaali rah gai oor general catagory dekhti raha gai.
Private Industries main to aachi noukari mil jaigi yadi aache college se baache ne paad rakha hai to.
 
अब मुस्लिम समुदाय ने भी मांगा आरक्षण


कैथल. प्रदेश के मुस्लिम समुदाय ने भी आरक्षण के लिए आवाज बुलंद कर ली है। हरियाणा मुस्लिम खिदमत सभा के सदस्यों की प्रदेश स्तरीय बैठक सिरटा रोड ईदगाह में सभा के चेयरमैन डा.बीआर चौहान की अध्यक्षता में हुई। बैठक में मुस्लिम समुदाय के उत्थान के बारे में विस्तार से चर्चा हुई।


देखता जा भाई अनिले, इन ने जाट ते तावला मिलेगा...
वो तो इनकी वोट थोड़ी हैं हरियाणे में, ना तो कदे का मिल लेता इन ने तो... वो केरल में एर तमिलनाडु में तो लगभग सारे मुसलमान OBC में गीणे जा सें|
या कुछ जाट में रह रही से 'सुखी आकड़', बाकि कोए छोड़ के राजी नहीं reservation|
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जनगणना पूरी होई नहीं, अर यो reservation/quote ६०%-७०% ते ऊपर भी कूदेगा. तमिलनाडु में तो पहले से ७०%, इब कर्नाटक में हो ज्या गा ६७% के आस-पास Supreme court के आदेशानुसार.. बस caste डाटा की कसर रह री से
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अर कुछ भाई Jatland पे नु लिखेंगे अक मेहनत करेनिये तो सीट काढ लेंगे चाहे सीट २०% रह जा 'Gereral Category' की! जाणू डाकिया (डाकू) ने % का मतलब ए नहीं बेरा!
 
भाई इन ने आरक्षण देगा हूडा साब पक्कम पक्का ................ आगली बे कांग्रेस की सीट भी तो लेनी सें मेवात फिरोजपुर झिरका नुह आली........ उन के भरोसे इ इलेक्शन लड्या जागा आगला...... जाट वोट तो आधे इने ...आर आधे उन्ने हो रे सें....बराबर तुल रे सें ताखड़ी में............. इन् ने कोए न गिनता.............भाई एक आईडिया आया स........ चेन्नई में जा के बस जावन दो सौ चार सो जाट....... miniorty में आ जांगे...... के बेरा वोट के चक्कर में हुड जयललिता आरक्षण दे दे हा हा हा हा हा हा हा हा हा हा


जाट बेल्ट में तो आगली बे 'रघबीर कादियन' एर 'आनंद दांगी' के इलावा सब की जमानत जब्त स ...... ये दोनु candidate पचास पचास हज़ार के margin तें जीतेंगे.....एर रिकार्ड तोड़ेंगे.....आगली बे इन ने लोगा के पाया में लोटन की जरूरत कोणी पड़े....हा हा हा हा हा हा हा हा हा हा हा हा हा हा हा हा :rock :rock :rock :rock


देखता जा भाई अनिले, इन ने जाट ते तावला मिलेगा...
वो तो इनकी वोट थोड़ी हैं हरियाणे में, ना तो कदे का मिल लेता इन ने तो... वो केरल में एर तमिलनाडु में तो लगभग सारे मुसलमान OBC में गीणे जा सें|
या कुछ जाट में रह रही से 'सुखी आकड़', बाकि कोए छोड़ के राजी नहीं reservation|
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जनगणना पूरी होई नहीं, अर यो reservation/quote ६०%-७०% ते ऊपर भी कूदेगा. तमिलनाडु में तो पहले से ७०%, इब कर्नाटक में हो ज्या गा ६७% के आस-पास Supreme court के आदेशानुसार.. बस caste डाटा की कसर रह री से
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अर कुछ भाई Jatland पे नु लिखेंगे अक मेहनत करेनिये तो सीट काढ लेंगे चाहे सीट २०% रह जा 'Gereral Category' की! जाणू डाकिया (डाकू) ने % का मतलब ए नहीं बेरा!
 
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Rakesh i agree with you.similar incident happen to me where 45%(SC) got an admission in this college beating me with 85%(General) way back in 97-98.but i differ with point that private sector prefers such quote or other reservation or particular college. Because Non-Performer doesn't have any place in pvt. sector whether is reseverd or general category.

Private Industries main to aachi noukari mil jaigi yadi aache college se baache ne paad rakha hai to.[/QUOTE]
 
Rakesh i agree with you.similar incident happen to me where 45%(SC) got an admission in this college beating me with 85%(General) way back in 97-98.but i differ with point that private sector prefers such quote or other reservation or particular college. Because Non-Performer doesn't have any place in pvt. sector whether is reseverd or general category.

Private Industries main to aachi noukari mil jaigi yadi aache college se baache ne paad rakha hai to.
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And what if you do not get admission itself ?
Like in you case even after 85% your seat was gone to one with 45%, Who will pass out from that college, of course he not you , so who would get the Pvt job he with degree. So Bhai ek baat to Sach hai Tamm mano ya na mano, Reservation gives you a 2nd chance(or even 3rd and 4th)
You you seen any one who is OBC or SC/ST, "Kee yaar please hamara reservation Khatam kar do ?"
 
Job is not a big thing & OBC doesn't gaurantee a job haan itna jaroor hai pehley aadmi jahan 50% k liye paper deta tha wo ab 73 % k liye paper dega bus issey jyada kuch nahi.....

Par ko layak se wo 1 -2 -3 -4 attempt me te lagey ega chahe OBC ho ya na ho.

SO my vote:
1. Sali reversation policy ko hatao khatam karo sabkey liye

2. Pehla option posiible nahi hai to Jaat bhi OBC me shamil kar lo, baalkaan k kaam aawega, jaatan ne k paap karrakhya se.

1st point was tried by JAT in 1991 time.
So now there only 2nd point left
 
In india britishes start the reservation for their colonies.Initially used this concept in the name of welfare porposes but the main aim behind this was to control the power by dividing the individuals for the personal interest i,e the policy of divide and rule.Today our politicians are using same techniques for getting votes.No one govt.will remove the reservation system which we have seen in 1991.yadav ,gujjar are getting resevation why not jat (jatton ke konse hawai jahaj chal re se unko bhi aarakshan milna hi chahiye.)
 

And what if you do not get admission itself ?
Like in you case even after 85% your seat was gone to one with 45%, Who will pass out from that college, of course he not you , so who would get the Pvt job he with degree. "[/QUOTE]

This is the whole point about reservations for Jats.


Currently, the children from the villages get very little or no education.

They are not in a position to get into a good college, ( indeed any college).

Withtout that they wil not get a chnace to be called for an interview.

They and their future families are condemned to live in a poverty trap.

If the GOI had devoted resources to rural areas, good schools , good teachers etc, this situation would not have arisen. GOI has lootd the rural areas of their resources and must now make amends.

We have to accept the fact that is the situation today and we must do someting about that today.

Ravi Chaudhary
 
Get a reality check in villages , every household send their children ( Maximum girls , well dressed ) in the best school of the surrounding (Gohand)

Reservation is no solution. What guys got in states like rajasthan or up ? any change in livelihood ?

For your information DU is controlled by Jat students....what to say of not getting admissions!

Munshi premchand wrote two centuries back that if one want to work ....there is no dearth of food for him!

Private Job ...one can get even if one passes from z grade college...the only thing is candidate should be hard working....and thats the only parameter -Hard Working
 
Bhai Sahab, Aaap aur me nahi lenge reservation, But jinko jaroorat hai le lene do. Who forces us to benefit. Even acchhi dhak benego ,Meri aur aap ke, ke bhai reservation hote huye bhee naa lete hum te. Theek hain na? Jisko lena hai lo na to apni ghar kee hai.

Ek Baat aur Batana Bhai Sahab, Jo SCT/ST and OBC me hain unke bacche goes to what kind of schools ? are they not well dressed, or is it only JAT kids well dressed ?

Get a reality check in villages , every household send their children ( Maximum girls , well dressed ) in the best school of the surrounding (Gohand)

Reservation is no solution. What guys got in states like rajasthan or up ? any change in livelihood ?

For your information DU is controlled by Jat students....what to say of not getting admissions!

Munshi premchand wrote two centuries back that if one want to work ....there is no dearth of food for him!

Private Job ...one can get even if one passes from z grade college...the only thing is candidate should be hard working....and thats the only parameter -Hard Working
 
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JAT RESERVATION …..Our necessity or a grudge

This is speech which I prepared for the first time till my education period and that too for participating in 'Haryana Youth Festival, 2010' to represent my college apart from other activities i.e. Debate, Rangoli Designing and also for Collage making. I was asked by the panel of Judge to represent it first in college. As told I also have to memorise this to speak out without any interruption but from my side I clarified that I write as per my observations and thoughts and will try to memorise it completely for best presentation. As soon as the girls at college came to know that my topic is selected and I'm allowed to participate they started showing their grudges and when they failed to deal me then one of them burst out for her true feelings i.e. why I've expressed such opinion as her parents have 10 lacs amount to pay as bribe for approach and other things. After a few conversation with girls I wrote an appology letter to the cultural incharge saying that I'm stepping back from my participation from all the activities. If girls can show this kind of impression then boys are two steps ahead than girls in every way. So, why to become Indira Gandhi jiske angrakshak ne hi use maar giraya aur fir ek bure aadmi ko punish karne ki bajaye nirdoshon ko hilaya. Diversity in India is for its beauty but not for fight among brotherhood.

At some thread Jeet has expressed his views about movie Rajneeti commenting ki aisi movies nahin dikhayi jaani chahiyein jisse aane waali generation neta ka bhaar uthaane se dare ya bache but I disagree for this as these are the ways to show us the psychology of today's people. Its upto us how we look at it. Aur fir Indira Gandhi, Mahatma Gandhi, Subhash Chandra Bose aur kaafi famous personalities hume history ka wo lesson deti hain ki agar public khud hi burai se dab ke dukhi rahna chahti hai to rahne do. Why to take the initiative for such people who all cannot think collectively. If people cannot, then its wise to step back. Jab insaan kisi acche kaam ke liye haar jata hai to nature and God is there to look after. "GOODNESS ALWAYS WIN OVER EVILS AND THE BEST ROLE IS PLAYED BY TIME". So, here comes my first speech presented on 22nd sept. for which I stepped back. I don't need to count any winning certificates to prove people that I know something better than them.

Honourable Judges,


Today, I would like to express my opinions on the current issue being raised i.e. ‘Jat Reservation’. How essential is it for us to uplift and grow?

Earlier, we all were recognized by our work and on the same basis the caste system came in the form of four varnas viz. Brahmins – those who were highly educated, Kshatriyas – those who were strong enough for warfare or to defend the country and its people, Vaishyas – those who were engaged in trade and commerce, and the rest of the people who were efficient for all kind physical work were called Shudras as they serve the other three classes of the society.

The foremost evil of this system is that it made some caste high, while some low and due to that Shudras were treated badly, considered as untouchables and were reduced to a low status.

After looking at this pitiable condition of the Shudras many eminent leaders came forward to combat the deteriorated condition and then came the Constitution of India which provided special privileges and facilities to uplift the scheduled castes and scheduled tribes.

  • The educational and economic interests of the scheduled castes were promoted and protected against any kind of social injustice or exploitation
  • Children belonging to scheduled caste were allowed admission to schools or any other institution maintained by the state
  • Person belonging to SC, ST were allowed to enter shops, temples or any other public place
  • Some seats were reserved for them in the Lok Sabha and the State Legislative Assemblies
  • Certain percentage of jobs in the Govt. sector are reserved for this category
Efforts were being made to improve the conditions of other socially and educationally backward classes.

But when government amend any law to support the weaker section, some people with unhealthy intentions came forward to misuse it and disturb the environment and picturised the right person or group as wrong who either has to step back to get out of this vicious circle of wrong doings or become the victim.

Today, half the people stand for wrong cause and half for right thing and this is the reason that our country is lagging behind. Very few are performing their roles as a true citizen. Rest, all others for their greed or selfish interest are pulling right person’s leg.

This is not a shame on the country but it’s a shame on its people due to which other nations are getting chance to move ahead and faster even when a country like India has no dearth of educated and skilled human resource.

Now I ask you all:

Do jats really need the reservation?
Are jats socially and economically backward?
Are they not getting proper education whether its formal, informal or non-formal?

As an individual I also can see the wrong goings and it really hurts when a person who is deservant does not get the right place of opportunity and a person who still has to grow upto that level snatches/buys the seat for which other candidate was supposed to sit. It really matters, but if government is helpless to help the right person because of the wrong doers then atleast we also should not join the hands at wrong side to make our govt. weak. Instead, we should make ourselves that capable that our intellects grow and opens the door for ourselves in the private sector and finally for the globalization.

Govt. sector which are being privatized and few on the way for same is just because of the quality of staff being appointed there through any means.

A leader can fail to make understand the public the right thing, even a teacher can fail to make understand the pupil the right and wrong. Same is the case with parents, but time is that factor which teaches a good lesson to every individual. That doesn’t mean the teachings should be stopped or halted but every person should carry on with little or big amount of knowledge and the time will automatically turn its right way.

So, I would just like to say ‘Do the good, support the good, help the weaker and make the nation stand at its highest place.

Now, I give rest to my speech by singing few rhyming lines……….



We shall overcome, We shall overcome​


We shall overcome someday​


O ho! Deep in my heart, I do believe​


We shall overcome someday​



We’ll walk hand-in-hand, We’ll walk hand-in-hand​


We’ll walk hand-in-hand someday​


O ho! Deep in my heart, I do believe​


We’ll walk hand-in-hand someday​



We shall integrate, We shall integrate​


We shall integrate someday​


O ho! Deep in my heart, I do believe​


We shall integrate someday​


Thanks & Regards
Neelam Choudhary
 
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I have read the headline of news added at this place on the same topic. You all can express you opinions here freely and also can give replies to my questions that I had asked in between this speech.


Regards
:)
 
This is speech which I prepared for the first time till my education period and that too for participating in 'Haryana Youth Festival, 2010' to represent my college apart from other activities i.e. Debate, Rangoli Designing and also for Collage making. I was asked by the panel of Judge to represent it first in college. As told I also have to memorise this to speak out without any interruption but from my side I clarified that I write as per my observations and thoughts and will try to memorise it completely for best presentation. As soon as the girls at college came to know that my topic is selected and I'm allowed to participate they started showing their grudges and when they failed to deal me then one of them burst out for her true feelings i.e. why I've expressed such opinion as her parents have 10 lacs amount to pay as bribe for approach and other things. After a few conversation with girls I wrote an appology letter to the cultural incharge saying that I'm stepping back from my participation from all the activities. If girls can show this kind of impression then boys are two steps ahead than girls in every way. So, why to become Indira Gandhi jiske angrakshak ne hi use maar giraya aur fir ek bure aadmi ko punish karne ki bajaye nirdoshon ko hilaya. Diversity in India is for its beauty but not for fight among brotherhood.

At some thread Jeet has expressed his views about movie Rajneeti commenting ki aisi movies nahin dikhayi jaani chahiyein jisse aane waali generation neta ka bhaar uthaane se dare ya bache but I disagree for this as these are the ways to show us the psychology of today's people. Its upto us how we look at it. Aur fir Indira Gandhi, Mahatma Gandhi, Subhash Chandra Bose aur kaafi famous personalities hume history ka wo lesson deti hain ki agar public khud hi burai se dab ke dukhi rahna chahti hai to rahne do. Why to take the initiative for such people who all cannot think collectively. If people cannot, then its wise to step back. Jab insaan kisi acche kaam ke liye haar jata hai to nature and God is there to look after. "GOODNESS ALWAYS WIN OVER EVILS AND THE BEST ROLE IS PLAYED BY TIME". So, here comes my first speech presented on 22nd sept. for which I stepped back. I don't need to count any winning certificates to prove people that I know something better than them.

Honourable Judges,


Today, I would like to express my opinions on the current issue being raised i.e. ‘Jat Reservation’. How essential is it for us to uplift and grow?

Earlier, we all were recognized by our work and on the same basis the caste system came in the form of four varnas viz. Brahmins – those who were highly educated, Kshatriyas – those who were strong enough for warfare or to defend the country and its people, Vaishyas – those who were engaged in trade and commerce, and the rest of the people who were efficient for all kind physical work were called Shudras as they serve the other three classes of the society.

The foremost evil of this system is that it made some caste high, while some low and due to that Shudras were treated badly, considered as untouchables and were reduced to a low status.

After looking at this pitiable condition of the Shudras many eminent leaders came forward to combat the deteriorated condition and then came the Constitution of India which provided special privileges and facilities to uplift the scheduled castes and scheduled tribes.Do These Privileges have some Percentage Limit(like 33% seats reserved or max 50% reserved why same reservation in PLOTS Draw (How will such poor people will pay amount)) or Duration? WHY ON CASTE BASIS? ARE THERE STILL UNTOUCHABLES???

  • The educational and economic interests of the scheduled castes were promoted and protected against any kind of social injustice or exploitation

  • Children belonging to scheduled caste were allowed admission to schools or any other institution maintained by the state

  • Person belonging to SC, ST were allowed to enter shops, temples or any other public place

  • Some seats were reserved for them in the Lok Sabha and the State Legislative Assemblies

  • Certain percentage of jobs in the Govt. sector are reserved for this category(Is there any clearity that only certain amount earning group is reserved)
Efforts were being made to improve the conditions of other socially and educationally backward classes.Make Education(Higher and professional also) Free Provide free books but 66% seats reservation only on basis of caste????? WHEN WILL THEY BECOME COMPETITIVE? Reservation mein 20 number wala select ho jata hai aur unreserved 95 leke bhi reh jata hai? Kya koi limit nahi honi chahiye???
Abhi ek khabar padhi thee meine reservation wale 4 bacho ke general se jyada number aa gaye to unhe ab general status chahiye taaki 4 aur ko reservation mein jagah mil sake.

But when government amend any law to support the weaker section, some people with unhealthy intentions came forward to misuse it and disturb the environment and picturised the right person or group as wrong who either has to step back to get out of this vicious circle of wrong doings or become the victim.IS WEAKER SECTION DESCRIBED BY CASTE?????This definition doesnot suits me.

Today, half the people stand for wrong cause and half for right thing and this is the reason that our country is lagging behind. Very few are performing their roles as a true citizen. Rest, all others for their greed or selfish interest are pulling right person’s leg.
This is not a shame on the country but it’s a shame on its people due to which other nations are getting chance to move ahead and faster even when a country like India has no dearth of educated and skilled human resource. Please provide list of any other countries providing reservation on caste basis and does the students having 20 marks getting preferance over the one with 95 increase skilled human resource?

Now I ask you all:

Do jats really need the reservation? YES
Are jats socially and economically backward?YES more than 60% rural jats are living a miserable life .I think you have seen Jats on jatland.com only.
Are they not getting proper education whether its formal, informal or non-formal?NO Nakso se bahar nikal kar gaon mein jake Zameeni hakikat dekho madam

As an individual I also can see the wrong goings and it really hurts when a person who is deservant does not get the right place of opportunity and a person who still has to grow upto that level snatches/buys the seat for which other candidate was supposed to sit. It really matters, but if government is helpless to help the right person because of the wrong doers then atleast we also should not join the hands at wrong side to make our govt. weak. Instead, we should make ourselves that capable that our intellects grow and opens the door for ourselves in the private sector and finally for the globalization.

Govt. sector which are being privatized and few on the way for same is just because of the quality of staff being appointed there through any means.

A leader can fail to make understand the public the right thing, even a teacher can fail to make understand the pupil the right and wrong. Same is the case with parents, but time is that factor which teaches a good lesson to every individual. That doesn’t mean the teachings should be stopped or halted but every person should carry on with little or big amount of knowledge and the time will automatically turn its right way.

So, I would just like to say ‘Do the good, support the good, help the weaker and make the nation stand at its highest place.

Now, I give rest to my speech by singing few rhyming lines……….



We shall overcome, We shall overcome


We shall integrate someday​


Thanks & Regards
Neelam Choudhary

Angreji mein ham honge kamyab gaane se kamyabi nahi milegi.achha hua aapne bhashan nahi diya.
 
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Bhai Ravinderjeet, when I regiestered my self with JATLAND.COM around in year 2001, I saw the reservation thread going on at that time. So how long (May be how many generations ) we would need to talk about the same thing. Most of us agree with you here. But it is not going to happen ? or at least the way it is going now. So may be we just work for one thing now, that is JAT reservation. JAT belt was against any kind of reservation in Mandal time(20 yeas back) How many kids lost jobs and college seats unfairly till now ?
Bye the way apka signature bada ND se, er iss thread me phit bhee se...

kewal teen tarah kaa aarakshan honaa chaahiye.wo bhi total kaa 5% sey jayaadaa ni.
1)hendicap
2)sportsman
3)ex defence
 
i think

we need reservation but ya to jaato ko bhi reservation do nai to kisi ko bhi reservation na do ,ye reservation ka system hi band kaar diya jaye...........
 
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