Non jat girls married to jat guys... do you consider them Jatnis??

Do you consider non Jatnis married to Jat guy as a Jatni

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True both ways. Jat of every region thinks they are superior. UP jats think they are superior to Haryanvi and other jats. Even in UP jats in certain area thinks they are superior than the others (chaugama wale, jamna paar and many such areawise distinction etc).

JKundu said:
To me : Jat of Haryana is different to Jat of UP or MP or Rajasthan or Punjab.

Jat of Haryana marrying a Jatni of UP(say) is equal to Intercaste Marriage in my eyes.
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Samarkadian said:
Upender you have evolved as a poster manyfolds.

What if Nazis were right in there epoch? We were made to hate Nazis by Western Jews Control Media.

Jat Nazis[if any] are many times better than Liberal Nazis who are hell bent on uselessly proving themselves in front of hypocritic biased cattle folk media and modernised zombies.
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Samar bhai, I don't want to be poster manifolds, but when I see the posts of others in Internet world, then I feel very grateful to those kind guys. Mostly pictures, entertaining videos, other informational articles and many more, mostly are posts in fact, sent by the posters. So if I find something worth sharing, then I post that here.
Well, about the Nazis I would like to say that I can't digest their ideology about their great race and I think Jats can never be like them. Jats will/should rule the world without taking any pain. Where can we get ANWD (Anti-Nuclear Weapon Device) from? What...from nowhere...hmmm...then we will have to wait till we get it...:)
 
Dunno where from ppl bring such topics which ultimately run around Jat/blood/true jat/haryana etc..........
When will we change?

But, via such threads, I get a good laughter on many posts and get to know how the so called educated and enlightened Jats think :)

Cheerssss!!! Jatssssss, the royal blood.
 
VIJAY Bhai, as per well established & existing social norms and pervailing legal provisions on the topic, Yes such woman will aquire status of jatni, a perticular relation with various members of the family ,share in the property, legal & social status. It is not necessary that a girl by birth jatni can only give jat sanskar to her children. I agree with mr kumar that we should avoide such topics.
 
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भाई Blood तॊ सब्का रॊयल् है , जाट कॊइ चान्द् पॆ तॆ नहि आ रॆ.
कुल मिला कॆ , छॊरी सूथ्री , शान् शकल् की और् व्यव्हार् कुशल् होनी चाहिए.फॆर चाहॆ वा बॆसक कॆरला की हॊ.
सॊचॊ ज Adam जाट हॊता और Eve malyali हॊती :confused:, फॆर् तॊ चाल लिया था सन्सार्.
फॆर् कॆ Adam royal blood की दही ज*माव् अर् , कसाई?
 
Jooda to Jat oor jaatni ka hi aacha ho se par mazburi oor ladkiyan ki kaami main kuch bhi kah lo bhai.
Balak to choodi ke bhi paida hoo jange kerla ke karega.
 
Nice thread by my very educated Jats.... Are we trying to create a world full of Jats or is it that other human races or castes are inferior. All have their morals and values.
I am not promoting inter-caste or inter-region marriages but is it not possible that a Keralite girl can also bring good values with her. In this world where people and societies are well educated, these matters should be left to individuals to decide.
 
Bhai ye VICE VERSA wala system galat hai..................bhai bolne se koi jaat ni hota jaat k rang_dhang to uske blood me hote hain aur koi use change ni kar sakta chahe vo kisi jaat se shadi kare ya non-jaat se.

bhai aajkal apni side me ek aur system hai ki agar kisi ki shadi na hoti to vo bihar ya bangal ki ladkiyo se shadi kar lete hain.............aaj k time har gaam me 2-3 case aise milna common hain..................islye ye baat UN LOGO SE PUCHO TO ACHA HAI.VO AAPKO DETAIL ME SAMJHA SAKTE HAIN...............:rock:rock:rock:rock:rock
 
Jats have a historical tradition of being very open minded, on accepting ladies from other communities into their fold.


They have always been egalitarian as a community/ They have always been respectful of women and women’s rights.

There is a saying “ jat ke aayi, jatni kelayi”

Women from other communities have always been fully accepted. There has been no discrimination against them. They and their children have always had full inheritance rights.

They have always been treated as full fledged Jats.

Those interested are welcome to go through the books on History section, and also through the archives.

Ravi Chaudhary
 
ravichaudhary said:
Jats have a historical tradition of being very open minded, on accepting ladies from other communities into their fold.


They have always been egalitarian as a community/ They have always been respectful of women and women’s rights.

There is a saying “ jat ke aayi, jatni kelayi”
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Though I respect your point of view but I do not agree with it. Jats are still not that open in Haryana. I am not sure about other states but in Haryana, marrying a Non Jat girl is still not that acceptable. For example if a boy married to some Dalit girl, people do not see that as a respectable in the society. Those Jat families members have to face a lot of backbiting and taunitng from the society. Some will say.. "Rai yu to Chamari bya laya. Isnai to katti izzat mitti mai mila di. Jaton mei kya choriyon ki kami reh gayi thi". Casteism is not that easy to go away from the soceity.
 
atishmohan said:
Though I respect your point of view but I do not agree with it. Jats are still not that open in Haryana. I am not sure about other states but in Haryana, marrying a Non Jat girl is still not that acceptable. For example if a boy married to some Dalit girl, people do not see that as a respectable in the society. Those Jat families members have to face a lot of backbiting and taunitng from the society. Some will say.. "Rai yu to Chamari bya laya. Isnai to katti izzat mitti mai mila di. Jaton mei kya choriyon ki kami reh gayi thi". Casteism is not that easy to go away from the soceity.
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You are correct in this. This is increasingly the situation today.

I am refering to historical times.


Old traditions are being broken.

Even on widow remarriage. Previously it was customary for the girl to married to the deavr.

Today there are those who wish to avoid marrying a widow at all.

Yet at the same time, there are many who will marry without any hesitation.

Similarly we find, and I expect we will increasingy find that marriages of both Jat boys and girls will occur in other communities.

This will create family tensions, but it is a trend that will grow.

Best regards


Ravi Chaudhary
 
Readers may wish to reflect on:

1) What are rights of a non jatni marrying a jat man.

2) What are the rights of the off spring?

in respect of

a) inheritance

b) social- will the offspring be treated as Jats, and will other Jats marry them or not

Also please reflect on the increasing trend, of bringing in spouses from other states- purchasing the bride.( which was an old acceptable custom)


Ravi Chaudhary
 
Jataan key chhorey haandey gaalaa mein
Chhoree padh collejaa mein
Tholaa jamaa maarey naa khetaa mein
Taley gaadee chaheeye handan nein galaa mein
Zulaf takravai daandaa mein
Sutnee utreee talaa mein
Kurtee chadee upar mein
Pher Hoor chaheeye talmaa lakha mein
Bas waha to naa pavagee jataa mein
Laanee paregee pardesaa mein

Haq huuqooq kho jagaa kitabaa mein
Kagazee lal hongey baataa mein
Jatpanaa rah jagaa kitabaa mein
Nyaree khichdee pakegee pateelaa mein
Kadhaee khujagee pagdeeya mein
Baat raheja gee vichaaraa mein
 
Lets segregate racial purity of jats in few areas:
1. Based on genes - it does not exist
2. Based on cultural norms
3. Based on acceptance - by prominent or majority jat familes in your area
4. Combination of all of above
5. Who cares

Now lets take a closer look.

1. The concept of racial purity does not exist. It has been concluded by many peer reviewed scientific studies. Latest genetics tests now can provide % of Asian, Indian, African and white genes in each one of us. All of us have all these 3 or four racial types of genes (every white has some back jeans and vice versa).

2. Based on how much we practice jat cultural norms
Does that mean jats living a very diff lifestyle in western world are no longer jats? Or a Punjabi migrant from Pakistan, living in Haryana, who speaks Haryanvi dialect, does all the things as local jats do, is that punjabi mroe jat than 2nd-generation jat living overseas in a western country. Humsssss.


3. Based on acceptance - by prominent or majority jat familes in your area
If you are distinguished, have power or money, well they will accept you. It matters only for those who are poor jats. Paisa aur power bolta hai. Ha! what hypocrisy!

4. Combination of above
None of the above-mentioned 3 factors mattered, combining them is wont matter either.

5. Who cares - Egg-jack-lee.
You are as jat as you feel. Mate, dump the dogma.
Your caste is just one of many associations we use to define our identity. Depending on their circumstances, individuals attribute stronger weight to adherence to these associations (clan, tribe, caste, religion, nationality, etc) in order to define their identity. For some religion is more important than caste and for some nation if more important than caste, for some survival (mulla jat who converetd vs hindu jat who prefered to die than convert) is more important. Whatever works for you mate. Each one to their own. Maast raho, apna kahte ho, aapne hisaab se jiyo. Koi ke kar lega.

Knowledge will set you free. But then again, ignorance is a bliss.

Ok, enough of this heavy stuff, lets be blissfully free, bring out da vodka. VP Sing ji and RavinderJeet, bhai tawle se aa jao, thara hokka sulgan laag ra su. Burrrah!!!!!!!! ... lol
 
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History repeats itself.It has repeated very soon.
No doubt in the near future conditions will worsen up in case of Jat boys.Marrying will be a real problem.We have to be alert at an early stage.
 
Originally posted by vdhillon

Ok, enough of this heavy stuff, lets be blissfully free, bring out da vodka. VP Sing ji and RavinderJeet, bhai tawle se aa jao, thara hokka sulgan laag ra su. Burrrah!!!!!!!!
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Vishal, very good analysis about 'Jat Royalty'. Even though, I gave up smoking long ago, I feel tempted to have a few puffs of 'Hokka' again. Eagerly awaiting 'hokka mehfil'. घर का बनाया हुआ तम्बाखू होगा तो शूट्टे मारण मैं और भी सुवाद सा आज्यागा I
 
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vpsingh said:
Vishal, very good analysis about 'Jat Royalty'. Even though, I gave up smoking long ago, I feel tempted to have a few puffs of 'Hokka' again. Eagerly awaiting 'hokka mehfil'. घर का बनाया हुआ तम्बाखू होगा तो शूट्टे मारण मैं और भी सुवाद सा आज्यागा I
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@VPsingh ji: ha ha ha. , hukka was just a metaphor for the party mood or congregation of doo-chaar jats, I do not smoke either, occasional drink is the only vice.

@Narender Singh: Hopefully, skewed sex-ratio will force the grass-root level jats to dump their casteist dogma and engage in more liberal and progressive alliances with other communities.
 
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