Honey, Its all about love: Romantic Pyar ke Nyare Nyare Kisse

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In reply to the "chilam episode"

On a serious note, age is just a digit and love has nothing to do with mathematical numerals. Love is a spontaneous outburst of feel good hormones irrespective of age. It is the person himself (who is lovelorn) to define the boundaries of morality, ethics and romanticism in the newfound relationship. Only the parties concerned can decide as to how far they should go on this difficult path without having any sense of guilt while evading the cruel onslaughts from external forces. One’s consciousness will signal him/her where to stop and one must listen to that signal. Any transgression of the signals emanating from one’s consciousness is bound to result in dangerous consequences. If the relationship is not acceptable by the family, friends, relatives and the well-wishers, it becomes a tight rope walk requiring a precarious balance and it is at this stage that “Chanayaka Diplomacy” assumes its role. Those who are wise enough are able to maintain this precarious balance, those who are bereft of practical wisdom and driven by sentiments only fail in their ordeal and fall in the trap spread by the orthodox society, due to false notions of prestige. Most of us are circumstanced by the self-proclaimed priests of morality to buckle under that pressure.

Apart from the friendship/intimate relationship between a boy and a girl, which is often described as love affair in common parlance, love has other dimensions also. A healthy, platonic and puritanical love between a man and a woman even after marriage is not a sin if they are able to sustain it without jeopardizing their family equations. Culmination of every such relation doesn’t necessarily leads to physical relations only. One can have friends of opposite sex at work place, in university, or in politics where intimate interaction is unavoidable and there is nothing wrong in it irrespective of age. I have seen people of all ages who are successful in their mission of making love even after marriage without jeopardizing their family/social harmony by maintaining tight secrecy. But it all depends on your capacity to hold back the secrets. On the other hand, I have seen people who fail to honor the oath of secrecy and indulge in bragging by sharing their pillow secrets to prove their virility. One should refrain from that, in my opinion for the sake of your own and your beloved’s prestige and dignity.
Man is born free and has every right to practice what he feels right. But having said that, I would like to acknowledge that this freedom has to be subjected to certain restrictions for maintaining harmony and decorum in society and we must honor those restrictions upto a reasonable extent keeping in view the practical difficulties and prevailing mindset of contemporary social milieu we are living in to avoid unnecessary hardships and also for the sake of our family.
 
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"A healthy, platonic and puritanical love between a man and a woman even after marriage is not a sin if they are able to sustain it without jeopardizing their family equations. Culmination of every such relation doesn’t necessarily leads to physical relations only."

SO TRUE. I agree with you 100% VP Singh Ji and more so with the above statement. Very well said.
 
VP ji you remind me of Eugene Levy(Jim's Daddy) of American Pie series. You are as hilarious as him!
 
भाई, मैंने जीप नाचनिये बरातियां गैल ला दी, आधे उन में धुत, वोह मनने जीप चलवानिया समझ के रौब दिखा दिखा के तू तड़ाक ते बात करें आर पानी मांगे.
आर भाई में उन के गैल गैल उनी की सेवा करदा, उन की तू तड़ाक औट्दा, कदे घोड़ी सवार सेहरा बांधे दुल्हे न देख्दा, आर यो सोच दा रह्य, के देख कदे तोह तू इस छोरी के बियाह में सेवा करवावे आर, आर आज अच्छी माट्टी कुट्टी गयी ... lol

ढिल्लों की होई तुड़ी, इज्ज़त का लकड़ा दिवाला,
खसम बणते बणते, बण गया साला ... ha ha ha ... rofl


Bhai Dhillon lage se tanne chhri pasand aa gi thi. Jeebe to dehi tudwa rhya tha uhke byah me. Nahi?
 
मेरी एक सहेली थी ...
प.स. ब्याह पाछे वा बोली अक्क काश मै हंसी रोक लेती तो ढंग तै पढ़ लेती :)

हां इ बेबे, मेरा तो ख्याल स, ये असली (preserve their privacy) नाम हाटा दे.
 
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It is a privilege to have interacted with people like you. Will continue to offer my counterpoints on your other threads. I know you are mature enough to digest divergence.

Absolutely sir, If we all keep agreeing with each other then there will be no learning. Case in point, is your thread on 'Rural Development', a topic I am opinionated about but I possess the knowledge level of 'Padhalikha Unpad" (sufficiently not aware), certainly lot to learn there for me, I will post there later.
 
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In reply to the "chilam episode"

On a serious note, age is just a digit and love has nothing to do with mathematical numerals. Love is a spontaneous outburst of feel good hormones irrespective of age. It is the person himself (who is lovelorn) to define the boundaries of morality, ethics and romanticism in the newfound relationship. Only the parties concerned can decide as to how far they should go on this difficult path without having any sense of guilt while evading the cruel onslaughts from external forces. One’s consciousness will signal him/her where to stop and one must listen to that signal. Any transgression of the signals emanating from one’s consciousness is bound to result in dangerous consequences. If the relationship is not acceptable by the family, friends, relatives and the well-wishers, it becomes a tight rope walk requiring a precarious balance and it is at this stage that “Chanayaka Diplomacy” assumes its role. Those who are wise enough are able to maintain this precarious balance, those who are bereft of practical wisdom and driven by sentiments only fail in their ordeal and fall in the trap spread by the orthodox society, due to false notions of prestige. Most of us are circumstanced by the self-proclaimed priests of morality to buckle under that pressure.

Apart from the friendship/intimate relationship between a boy and a girl, which is often described as love affair in common parlance, love has other dimensions also. A healthy, platonic and puritanical love between a man and a woman even after marriage is not a sin if they are able to sustain it without jeopardizing their family equations. Culmination of every such relation doesn’t necessarily leads to physical relations only. One can have friends of opposite sex at work place, in university, or in politics where intimate interaction is unavoidable and there is nothing wrong in it irrespective of age. I have seen people of all ages who are successful in their mission of making love even after marriage without jeopardizing their family/social harmony by maintaining tight secrecy. But it all depends on your capacity to hold back the secrets. On the other hand, I have seen people who fail to honor the oath of secrecy and indulge in bragging by sharing their pillow secrets to prove their virility. One should refrain from that, in my opinion for the sake of your own and your beloved’s prestige and dignity.
Man is born free and has every right to practice what he feels right. But having said that, I would like to acknowledge that this freedom has to be subjected to certain restrictions for maintaining harmony and decorum in society and we must honor those restrictions upto a reasonable extent keeping in view the practical difficulties and prevailing mindset of contemporary social milieu we are living in to avoid unnecessary hardships and also for the sake of our family.

VP Singh Ji wonderfully written post, pragmatic no bias or value judgement with practical suggestions. Also, you explored and succinctly put forth a perspective which has not been explored on this thread before. Indeed valuable in terms of enhancing the understanding of the topic, summarizing the essence and carrying the discussion forward. Wonderful.
 
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VP Singh bhai saab:

The affection or the closeness that two people of opposite sexes share because of their proximity of thoughts or workdesks often ends up pulling them even closer. As is the way at this portal. We all enjoy each others company on this portal and this makes us come back again and again and look for a particular person or his views. When this closeness is in the real world, it results in spending time together, taking meals together, going out together etc. Now this does cause some uneasiness for the parents if the girl is single and for the husband if the girl is his wife. I am speaking for guys here because i'll leave the other view to the female interpretation.

Allowing such actions in our views is one thing and facing them in real life is quite another. I seriously have doubts over the acceptance of such methods by any husband/father. Just imagine X's wife being more happy than with him. I frankly say it is going to tear Mr. X apart. And no matter how platonic that relation be, the mere fact that another man's company is more acceptable to X's beau is definitely going to create trouble in the family life.
 
In reply to the "chilam episode"

On a serious note, age is just a digit and love has nothing to do with mathematical numerals. Love is a spontaneous outburst of feel good hormones irrespective of age. It is the person himself (who is lovelorn) to define the boundaries of morality, ethics and romanticism in the newfound relationship. Only the parties concerned can decide as to how far they should go on this difficult path without having any sense of guilt while evading the cruel onslaughts from external forces. One’s consciousness will signal him/her where to stop and one must listen to that signal. Any transgression of the signals emanating from one’s consciousness is bound to result in dangerous consequences. If the relationship is not acceptable by the family, friends, relatives and the well-wishers, it becomes a tight rope walk requiring a precarious balance and it is at this stage that “Chanayaka Diplomacy” assumes its role. Those who are wise enough are able to maintain this precarious balance, those who are bereft of practical wisdom and driven by sentiments only fail in their ordeal and fall in the trap spread by the orthodox society, due to false notions of prestige. Most of us are circumstanced by the self-proclaimed priests of morality to buckle under that pressure.

Apart from the friendship/intimate relationship between a boy and a girl, which is often described as love affair in common parlance, love has other dimensions also. A healthy, platonic and puritanical love between a man and a woman even after marriage is not a sin if they are able to sustain it without jeopardizing their family equations. Culmination of every such relation doesn’t necessarily leads to physical relations only. One can have friends of opposite sex at work place, in university, or in politics where intimate interaction is unavoidable and there is nothing wrong in it irrespective of age. I have seen people of all ages who are successful in their mission of making love even after marriage without jeopardizing their family/social harmony by maintaining tight secrecy. But it all depends on your capacity to hold back the secrets. On the other hand, I have seen people who fail to honor the oath of secrecy and indulge in bragging by sharing their pillow secrets to prove their virility. One should refrain from that, in my opinion for the sake of your own and your beloved’s prestige and dignity.
Man is born free and has every right to practice what he feels right. But having said that, I would like to acknowledge that this freedom has to be subjected to certain restrictions for maintaining harmony and decorum in society and we must honor those restrictions upto a reasonable extent keeping in view the practical difficulties and prevailing mindset of contemporary social milieu we are living in to avoid unnecessary hardships and also for the sake of our family.

sir ji aap ek kitab likho "payar kissey kahtey hein"
 
VP Singh bhai saab:

The affection or the closeness that two people of opposite sexes share because of their proximity of thoughts or workdesks often ends up pulling them even closer. As is the way at this portal. We all enjoy each others company on this portal and this makes us come back again and again and look for a particular person or his views. When this closeness is in the real world, it results in spending time together, taking meals together, going out together etc. Now this does cause some uneasiness for the parents if the girl is single and for the husband if the girl is his wife. I am speaking for guys here because i'll leave the other view to the female interpretation.

Allowing such actions in our views is one thing and facing them in real life is quite another. I seriously have doubts over the acceptance of such methods by any husband/father. Just imagine X's wife being more happy than with him. I frankly say it is going to tear Mr. X apart. And no matter how platonic that relation be, the mere fact that another man's company is more acceptable to X's beau is definitely going to create trouble in the family life.

Amit ji, that is why I have put the rider of "not jeopardizing the family equations" because of such relations.
 
"A healthy, platonic and puritanical love between a man and a woman even after marriage is not a sin if they are able to sustain it without jeopardizing their family equations. Culmination of every such relation doesn’t necessarily leads to physical relations only."

SO TRUE. I agree with you 100% VP Singh Ji and more so with the above statement. Very well said.
Vp singh ji and shibani..I strongly disagree. this is not fair in any sense. just imagine your wife/husband meets his/her lover of pre-marriage and you have discovered it how do you feel? May be i have a little heart but I can not tolerate it and secondly only that person will tolerate it who is already indulged in such activity. Meeting your pre marriage lovers is not right in any sense. it is high degree of infidelity and i hate such guys
 
में इस किस्से नु आपने "अल्बादी बाल्कान के किस्से" में भी गेरुं गा | आड़े मुंबई में मेरा एक दोस्त स | जात का बानिया स| अर मेरा बेच मेट था ऊह का एर मेरा नंबर भी आगे पाछे थे | जुकर जाट उत्प्नी करेयीं बिना ना रह्या करें ,न्युई मानने भी एक उडिया छोरा था ऊह की घनी रेगिंग कर दी थी ,तो वो हस्पताल में भर्ती कराणा पड़ग्या था | जयां तें मेरा होस्टल डिस्चार्ज होगया था बाकी जाट्टां के बालकां की ढाल | तो इस बानिये के ने आपने घरां मेरे ताहि सरण दी थी | इसका बाबू नेवी में स्टोर ओफ्फिसर था | जब में इन् धोरे रहवन गया तो मन्ने बेरा पाटया अक ईह भाई का एक इसाई की छोरी गेल्याँ नया-नया इश्क सुरु होया था | एर थोड़े दिना में इनके घरक्याँ नु भी बेरा पाटग्या अक किम्मे चक्कर से | मन्ने kai be kahi अक छोरी suthari कोणी par यो नु bolyaa "dil गया gadhi पे तो pari kayaa cheej hey"| ये लखनौ के थे , इसके बड्डे भाई की एर इसकी खातर इनका बाबु लखनऊ में छोरी देख भाल कें ठीक कराया | इनकी माँ के मेरा नाँ याद कोणी रह्या करदा | वा मन्ने आपना चोथा बेटा कह्या करदी एर मेरा नाँ "हरियाणा" धर री थी | ये दोनु कदे चर्च में मिलदे एर कदे मंदिर में | घर तें हां दोनु दोस्त कट्ठे लिकड़ दे ,एर यो मन्ने रह में छोड़ कें आपनी स्कूटर पे आपनी प्रेमिका नु बिठा कें जांदा रेंदा | मन्ने uss छोरी के kai fotu banaaye haath तें | (chitarkaari मेरा shok से ) एर वो आपनी प्रेमिका नु kahndaa अक usne banaaye sein | वा नु kahndi अक ravindar आपने दोस्त पे किम्मे sikh ले देख यो kitne aachhe chitar banaawe स | में haans के रह जांदा | फेर एक be वे दोनु मेरे kamre पे आगे एक din achaanak तो मेरे एक do chitar jo adhure थे , वे uss छोरी ने देख liye | जब ऊह ने बेरा पात्त्या अक kis ने kis पे seekhnaa चाहिए | kai be मन्ने ये ekle नु kite ho छोड़ कें 9-2-11 ho jaande | में फेर हांडता फिरदा उनके वापसी की baat देखें जांदा | मन्ने कह दी अक भाई ,मुफ्त में सेवा नि होगी में | उन् ने दोनुआ ने मिल जुल कें मेरा खेचा थावां का जिम्मा ले लिया | एर नु बोले अक तन्ने के चाहिए | मेरे तो सोनीपत स्टैंड( rohtak ) के समोसे याद आया करदे मुंबई में | तो उन् ने मेरी हाँ भर ली | इतने वे हांड फिर कें आंदे इतने में समोसे एर कोफ़ी पींदा | मेरी भी भूखअड़ की मोज होगी | इस दोरान एक साल लिकड़ ग्या एर महारा कोरस पूरा होगया | एर म्हारी appoint ment भी होगया नोकरी पे | फेर इन् ने biyaah की thaan ली ,मन्ने kai be samjhaaye एक भाई love merrige 90% chaalyaa ना करदी ,makhaa thaaraa taawalaa-a rolaa ho ले गा | वे नु bole हाम chalaa कें dikhaawaange | एर korat meraj karan की soch ली | में एर uss छोरी की baddi bebe gawaah bange unkey | uss इसाई chhori की baddi bebe ने मेरे ताहि भी offar दे diyaa अक aajaa aapaan भी biyaah कर lyaan | वे थे isse-a chuhdyaan barge | में नु bolyaa अक में तो haryaanaa का bamb layaaungaa ,आड़े aali मेरे raas कोणी aawein | थोड़े दिना पाछे वे दोनु bhaaj ge | एर एक kamraa kiraaye पे ले कें rahawan laage | उनके घर के haande tohnde | एर इस बानिये के की माँ gai uss छोरी के घरां ladan | में भी उन् ने bulaa लिया अक tohan में म्हारी madad कर | saanjh नु khaanaa भी उन् ने मेरे ताहि आपने घरां-a khuwaayaa , एर मेरे दोस्त की माँ boli एक "haryanaa" uss bande ko dhoondh jis ne gawaahi दी he , में uskaa khoon pee jaawoongi | khaanaa khaandi हान मेरे haath oode- a के oode thahar ge | मन्ने-में-a tohnaa था | फेर वे जब भी lad दे toh मन्ने याद karyaa करदे अक देख ravindar नु kahi थी अक thaaraa biyaah chaale कोणी ,हाम ने वो jhuthaa sidh karnaa स, एर kai be unki shaadi tootdi-tootdi रह gi, एर वे ,जब भी हाम उनके घरां jaande तो smosyaan की bahaar laa dende | मेरी gharaali kahndi अक ये tere आंदे-a , aai bariyaan samose kyuon mangaayaa करें ,फेर मन्ने bataai अक इस के पाछे उनके उन् दिना की याद sein | फेर मेरी patni ने एक din uss छोरी की bebe भी dekhi jis ने मेरे ताहि parpos karyaa था | एर फेर मन्ने इतने jindaa rahi इतने chidaayein jaayaa करदी अक tu usse jogaa था | ibb वा छोरी भी rahi कोणी ,6 minhe pahalam kensar का sikaar ho gi (uski aatmaa ko shaanti mile ) ibb हाम दोनु randuey दोस्त ekle समोसे khaawan jaayaa karaan ,एर puraane किस्से याद karayaa karaan |
 
Asli naam na sain ye....Have been changed....I can take that risk of using my name if it had happened with me BUT won't risk my friend's identity :)
हां इ बेबे, मेरा तो ख्याल स, ये असली नाम हाटा दे.
 
Vp singh ji and shibani..I strongly disagree. this is not fair in any sense. just imagine your wife/husband meets his/her lover of pre-marriage and you have discovered it how do you feel? May be i have a little heart but I can not tolerate it and secondly only that person will tolerate it who is already indulged in such activity. Meeting your pre marriage lovers is not right in any sense. it is high degree of infidelity and i hate such guys

Okay let me try to explain you via the following scenario:
X being the woman is forcibly married off to Y which is not the one she loves. Y doesn't really meets X's expectation per say is not a loving and respecting husband but X accepts her fate and does everything a good daughter in law, wife, mother, sister and a daughter is expected to do. What I mean here is she is fulfilling all her roles by meeting everyone's expectation. But X in a corner of her heart still misses her love, she feels incomplete and have the urge to be close to her lover. If after fulfilling all her responsibilities she is seeking the one she loved, trusted and needed to be at peace she deserves it? I am coming from a woman’s perspective in this scenario.
She is not harming anyone she is just seeking solace and she happens to get that via her X lover. Her feeling of being happy and content will further spread the same energy in the household. Therefore everyone is happy.
Same goes for men as well. This is just one scenario. I have lots more to share but give me your feedback on this one first. In my eyes its a win win situation for all parties involved.
 
Okay let me try to explain you via the following scenario:
X being the woman is forcibly married off to Y which is not the one she loves. Y doesn't really meets X's expectation per say is not a loving and respecting husband but X accepts her fate and does everything a good daughter in law, wife, mother, sister and a daughter is expected to do. What I mean here is she is fulfilling all her roles by meeting everyone's expectation. But X in a corner of her heart still misses her love, she feels incomplete and have the urge to be close to her lover. If after fulfilling all her responsibilities she is seeking the one she loved, trusted and needed to be at peace she deserves it? I am coming from a woman’s perspective in this scenario.
She is not harming anyone she is just seeking solace and she happens to get that via her X lover. Her feeling of being happy and content will further spread the same energy in the household. Therefore everyone is happy.
Same goes for men as well. This is just one scenario. I have lots more to share but give me your feedback on this one first. In my eyes its a win win situation for all parties involved.

manne to nu suni s shibani ji ak loogaai ek saath do janyaan tein payaar naa kar sakdi.
 
Shibani I beg to differ on this subject....If X is so bold as to get involved in an extra marital affair to pacify her quest of love which didn't die even after getting married/ having children....where was this boldness when Ms.X got married? Couldn't she refuse not to get married to someone she didn't love? Isn't it something against the set norms of being trustworthy whom she chose to get married? If the love was so strong then why to get married to someone else...I call it lust....pure lust to meet hidden S****** desires in the name of something sacred called love....I know my views on the subject are right conservative but trying hard to transform :)

I fail to understand and agree how can some positive energy derive from a relationship totally negative?

Itna darr-chhup ke kuchh karne se achha hai ke dil pe pathar rakh lo:(
Okay let me try to explain you via the following scenario:
X being the woman is forcibly married off to Y which is not the one she loves. Y doesn't really meets X's expectation per say is not a loving and respecting husband but X accepts her fate and does everything a good daughter in law, wife, mother, sister and a daughter is expected to do. What I mean here is she is fulfilling all her roles by meeting everyone's expectation. But X in a corner of her heart still misses her love, she feels incomplete and have the urge to be close to her lover. If after fulfilling all her responsibilities she is seeking the one she loved, trusted and needed to be at peace she deserves it? I am coming from a woman’s perspective in this scenario.
She is not harming anyone she is just seeking solace and she happens to get that via her X lover. Her feeling of being happy and content will further spread the same energy in the household. Therefore everyone is happy.
Same goes for men as well. This is just one scenario. I have lots more to share but give me your feedback on this one first. In my eyes its a win win situation for all parties involved.
 
में इस किस्से नु आपने "अल्बादी बाल्कान के किस्से" में भी गेरुं गा | आड़े मुंबई में मेरा एक दोस्त स | जात का बानिया स| अर मेरा बेच मेट था ऊह का एर मेरा नंबर भी आगे पाछे थे | जुकर जाट उत्प्नी करेयीं बिना ना रह्या करें ,न्युई मानने भी एक उडिया छोरा था ऊह की घनी रेगिंग कर दी थी ,तो वो हस्पताल में भर्ती कराणा पड़ग्या था | जयां तें मेरा होस्टल डिस्चार्ज होगया था बाकी जाट्टां के बालकां की ढाल | तो इस बानिये के ने आपने घरां मेरे ताहि सरण दी थी | इसका बाबू नेवी में स्टोर ओफ्फिसर था | जब में इन् धोरे रहवन गया तो मन्ने बेरा पाटया अक ईह भाई का एक इसाई की छोरी गेल्याँ नया-नया इश्क सुरु होया था | एर थोड़े दिना में इनके घरक्याँ नु भी बेरा पाटग्या अक किम्मे चक्कर से | मन्ने kai be kahi अक छोरी suthari कोणी par यो नु bolyaa "dil गया gadhi पे तो pari kayaa cheej hey"| ये लखनौ के थे , इसके बड्डे भाई की एर इसकी खातर इनका बाबु लखनऊ में छोरी देख भाल कें ठीक कराया | इनकी माँ के मेरा नाँ याद कोणी रह्या करदा | वा मन्ने आपना चोथा बेटा कह्या करदी एर मेरा नाँ "हरियाणा" धर री थी | ये दोनु कदे चर्च में मिलदे एर कदे मंदिर में | घर तें हां दोनु दोस्त कट्ठे लिकड़ दे ,एर यो मन्ने रह में छोड़ कें आपनी स्कूटर पे आपनी प्रेमिका नु बिठा कें जांदा रेंदा | मन्ने uss छोरी के kai fotu banaaye haath तें | (chitarkaari मेरा shok से ) एर वो आपनी प्रेमिका नु kahndaa अक usne banaaye sein | वा नु kahndi अक ravindar आपने दोस्त पे किम्मे sikh ले देख यो kitne aachhe chitar banaawe स | में haans के रह जांदा | फेर एक be वे दोनु मेरे kamre पे आगे एक din achaanak तो मेरे एक do chitar jo adhure थे , वे uss छोरी ने देख liye | जब ऊह ने बेरा पात्त्या अक kis ने kis पे seekhnaa चाहिए | kai be मन्ने ये ekle नु kite ho छोड़ कें 9-2-11 ho jaande | में फेर हांडता फिरदा उनके वापसी की baat देखें जांदा | मन्ने कह दी अक भाई ,मुफ्त में सेवा नि होगी में | उन् ने दोनुआ ने मिल जुल कें मेरा खेचा थावां का जिम्मा ले लिया | एर नु बोले अक तन्ने के चाहिए | मेरे तो सोनीपत स्टैंड( rohtak ) के समोसे याद आया करदे मुंबई में | तो उन् ने मेरी हाँ भर ली | इतने वे हांड फिर कें आंदे इतने में समोसे एर कोफ़ी पींदा | मेरी भी भूखअड़ की मोज होगी | इस दोरान एक साल लिकड़ ग्या एर महारा कोरस पूरा होगया | एर म्हारी appoint ment भी होगया नोकरी पे | फेर इन् ने biyaah की thaan ली ,मन्ने kai be samjhaaye एक भाई love merrige 90% chaalyaa ना करदी ,makhaa thaaraa taawalaa-a rolaa ho ले गा | वे नु bole हाम chalaa कें dikhaawaange | एर korat meraj karan की soch ली | में एर uss छोरी की baddi bebe gawaah bange unkey | uss इसाई chhori की baddi bebe ने मेरे ताहि भी offar दे diyaa अक aajaa aapaan भी biyaah कर lyaan | वे थे isse-a chuhdyaan barge | में नु bolyaa अक में तो haryaanaa का bamb layaaungaa ,आड़े aali मेरे raas कोणी aawein | थोड़े दिना पाछे वे दोनु bhaaj ge | एर एक kamraa kiraaye पे ले कें rahawan laage | उनके घर के haande tohnde | एर इस बानिये के की माँ gai uss छोरी के घरां ladan | में भी उन् ने bulaa लिया अक tohan में म्हारी madad कर | saanjh नु khaanaa भी उन् ने मेरे ताहि आपने घरां-a khuwaayaa , एर मेरे दोस्त की माँ boli एक "haryanaa" uss bande ko dhoondh jis ne gawaahi दी he , में uskaa khoon pee jaawoongi | khaanaa khaandi हान मेरे haath oode- a के oode thahar ge | मन्ने-में-a tohnaa था | फेर वे जब भी lad दे toh मन्ने याद karyaa करदे अक देख ravindar नु kahi थी अक thaaraa biyaah chaale कोणी ,हाम ने वो jhuthaa sidh karnaa स, एर kai be unki shaadi tootdi-tootdi रह gi, एर वे ,जब भी हाम उनके घरां jaande तो smosyaan की bahaar laa dende | मेरी gharaali kahndi अक ये tere आंदे-a , aai bariyaan samose kyuon mangaayaa करें ,फेर मन्ने bataai अक इस के पाछे उनके उन् दिना की याद sein | फेर मेरी patni ने एक din uss छोरी की bebe भी dekhi jis ने मेरे ताहि parpos karyaa था | एर फेर मन्ने इतने jindaa rahi इतने chidaayein jaayaa करदी अक tu usse jogaa था | ibb वा छोरी भी rahi कोणी ,6 minhe pahalam kensar का sikaar ho gi (uski aatmaa ko shaanti mile ) ibb हाम दोनु randuey दोस्त ekle समोसे khaawan jaayaa karaan ,एर puraane किस्से याद karayaa karaan |

Tragic end of a great love story Ravinder!
It was sad to know your personal loss as well!
 
प्यारे शहद ,

ये सब लव में मोजूद ठरक को लेकर है , कोई बड़ी बात नहीं लेकिन क्या

---ओ प्यारे शहद, ''तुम इस ठरक नामक कसुती भावना को प्रेम जैसी दूसरी कसुत भावना से सफलता पूर्वक अलग कर सकते हो'' ?

क्यों की ठरक अर रोकेट आदमी को कहीं भी ले जा सकते हैं और कुछ भी बक बक करवा सकते हैं !
महान प्लेटो ने इसी ठरक को Platonic Love की संज्ञा दी है!
 
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Shibani I beg to differ on this subject....If X is so bold as to get involved in an extra marital affair to pacify her quest of love which didn't die even after getting married/ having children....where was this boldness when Ms.X got married? Couldn't she refuse not to get married to someone she didn't love? Isn't it something against the set norms of being trustworthy whom she chose to get married? If the love was so strong then why to get married to someone else...I call it lust....pure lust to meet hidden S****** desires in the name of something sacred called love....I know my views on the subject are right conservative but trying hard to transform :)

I fail to understand and agree how can some positive energy derive from a relationship totally negative?

Itna darr-chhup ke kuchh karne se achha hai ke dil pe pathar rakh lo:(
Rightly said.........and why does X not get divorce If her life is so hell?..and extra marital affairs are just for sex in 99.99 %....................
shibani..feedback given......... plz present another scenario
 
Vp singh ji and shibani..I strongly disagree. this is not fair in any sense. just imagine your wife/husband meets his/her lover of pre-marriage and you have discovered it how do you feel? May be i have a little heart but I can not tolerate it and secondly only that person will tolerate it who is already indulged in such activity. Meeting your pre marriage lovers is not right in any sense. it is high degree of infidelity and i hate such guys

Bhai Prashant, You are entitled to disagree with me as you have always been doing it religiously. Also, it is your birth right to hate others and you have never been found lacking in this respect too. Your advice to me and Shibani to imagine hypothetical situations sounds a little funny to me but it was also expected of you as it is your style of interrogating people. Never mind….it is all in lighter vein.

Seriously, I have one question for you: What is the guarantee that your wife or would be wife is a virgin who never had any pre-marital relationship/friendship with some male guy? But, you have to believe her and accept her version of denial in good faith. If your wife denies the allegation, there is no reason not to disbelieve her. If not, then the second option is to give her a virginity test? Are you going to do so? My guess is no, and one should never venture to do so. Suppose you decide to do so (against my advice) and the test result is positive, you may be in a soup? Moreover, the same test might be insisted upon for you as well, as a gesture of reciprocity. So better believe in whatever your spouse/fiancé/fiancée tells you. Relations of husband and wife are founded on mutual trust which should always remain intact.

It sheer hypothetical to assume that all wives and husbands must be having illicit relations before marriage by default? Even if it were true you have no control over it. You will have to either push that black chapter under the carpet for the sake of your dignity or indulge in barbaric act of honour killing which is an inhuman act. Fortunately, the incidence of pre-marital love is negligible among Jat boys and girls – thanks to proper control by parents and relatives.
 
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