Why could there be no other Bal Thackrey?

atishmohan said:
I could not believe that so many celebrities paid him the homage! Goondaism Celebrity nexus!! Probably these people were either threatened by him or he favoured them in getting the business.
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Everyone is afraid of the Sena! He ruled Mumbai and that is irrefutable. Some celebrities he engaged himself via his wit and charm and others just fell in line.

But its incredible to see him being accorded a state funeral.
 
एक २१ साल कि लड़की ने अपने फेसबुकपर एक पोस्ट लिखी "People like Thackeray are born and die daily and one should not observe a bandh for that." ओर इसको उसकी एक फ्रेंड ने लाईक किया नतीजा :
मुंबई पुलिस ने दोनों को अर्रेस्ट कर लिया धारा भी देखिये :
Section 295 (a) of the IPC (for hurting religious sentiments)
Section 64 (a) of the Information Technology Act, 2000.

उसके बाद शिव सैनिको ने उसके अंकल के क्लिनिक में जा के धुमा ठा दिया......... अब इसको क्या कहेंगे?
 
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Late B S Thakre became a living legend during his life time and died leaving behind millions to weep over his departure to heavenly abode. When it is admitted that 'he ruled Mumbai and that is irrefutable' then befittingly he deserved 'state funeral'.
 
DrRajpalSingh said:
Late B S Thakre became a living legend during his life time and died leaving behind millions to weep over his departure to heavenly abode. When it is admitted that 'he ruled Mumbai and that is irrefutable' then befittingly he deserved 'state funeral'.
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Perhaps your naivety didnt let you read between the lines or you are one of his admirers. Nothing wrong with either. He did rule. But the question is - by what means and at what cost?

He wasn't elected to any state office. Didnt contest an election. Instead played divisive politics that probably benefited a few but sowed seeds of ethnic divisions across a billion.
 
swaich said:
Perhaps your naivety didnt let you read between the lines or you are one of his admirers. Nothing wrong with either. He did rule. But the question is - by what means and at what cost?

He wasn't elected to any state office. Didnt contest an election. Instead played divisive politics that probably benefited a few but sowed seeds of ethnic divisions across a billion.
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He ruled over the hearts of people as is evidenced by the teeming crowds even when he is no more.

I am neither member of any political party nor supporter of this or that person.

I need not read your hidden meaning/message which, perhaps, reflects your prejudice against a man who is no more there to reply your unfounded allegations.

Kindly discuss my posts not me in future please.
 
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DrRajpalSingh said:
I need not read your hidden meaning/message which, perhaps, reflects your prejudice against a man who is no more there to reply your unfounded allegations.
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Sir,

Unfortunately the man never replied to allegations or communal charges pressed against him when he was alive either. True, it is a testimony that lakhs or people followed him but it is also an irony to see him draped in tri-color which represents India, not just Maharashtra for which he fought his entire life. It was more of a joke to drape him in tri-color slapping those who were butchered in Mumbai on his call.
 
DrRajpalSingh said:
He ruled over the hearts of people as is evidenced by the teeming crowds even when he is no more.

I am neither member of any political party nor supporter of this or that person.

I need not read your hidden meaning/message which, perhaps, reflects your prejudice against a man who is no more there to reply your unfounded allegations.

Kindly discuss my posts not me in future please.
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Hitler had more followers and rules millions of hearts even today, including that of Bal Thakre and his party. Doesnt mean one is a saint.

You are being selective by suggesting we avoid discussing deceased people. We discuss dead men all the time, especially historical ones. Gandhi, Nehru etc. So no harm in discussing Thakre. Actually even more pertinent to discuss his opinions and philosophy since going by his funeral procession, millions seem to identify with it. It just happens that I find mostly negative in it. And unfounded they are not. True to his convictions and unafraid to share them, he has given numerous interviews and speeches. Feel free to view them and post the positives.

I opined you as an admirer, which you resent. You suggested I am prejudiced, which I accept as I am prejudiced against all who breathe fire and spout hatred by claiming to be true 'sons of the soil'. So we are even.
 
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jaisingh318 said:
apne logo key liye ladne me kya burai h ?
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Jai Singh ji, I think the answer lies in one's definition of 'apne log'. Bhindrawala limited the definition to the people of his religion, Thakre limited it to Marathi Manoos. Some other like Anna Hazare include the whole country as their 'apne log'. Definition ke hisab se hi hamein burai aur achai mil jayegi.
 
to add to it, Lt. Gen DS Brar also fought for 'Apne log', just that his sphere represented the whole country, not just Punjab

swaich said:
Let me ask - so what do you think about Lt. Gen DS Brar? He came from the same Jat clan as Bhindrawala but fought on the opposing side.
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Gen brar ek foji kay hissab se apne duty kar rahe theyy.................lakin sant bhinderawala jat key liye batt karte theyy aur bahmanni kay khillaf theyy.
 
desijat said:
to add to it, Lt. Gen DS Brar also fought for 'Apne log', just that his sphere represented the whole country, not just Punjab
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Exactly my intended point, behind the post. :) One fights for those he feels bound by duty. Some think they are to first fight for their ethnicity and some for their country. Trouble occurs when both of these duties contradict each other.
 
The evil that men do lives on after them, the good is oft interred with their bones - said Antony, of Caesar.

On bravery or nationalism of Bal saheb, he never came out of Maharashtra and calling him a nationalist is wrong.He was fighting for survival as true for any politician party. I dont know how much true it is but he was asked to talk to bhinderwala but he refused

At the same time I'm curious whom we should blame for Thackerays and Bhinderwala and there deeds?If we go back in time Both Thackeray 's be it Bal and Raj, they have played identity or son of soil politics and flourished under congress rule and i think same was true for Bhinderwala.

Raj has flourished or was allowed to play his politics by congress ruled regime so that congress can benefit after vote split between sena's and Bhinderwala was supported by Madam ( as called by Saint himself) sitting in delhi to split akali vote but he went out of her hold and everything else is history.

I think Society prepare the crime and criminal commits it. They were given stage to perform and they did perform splendidly.
 
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