Pak troops cross LoC, kill 2 Indian jawans brutally !!!!!!

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PTI | Jan 8, 2013, 06.20 PM IST

JAMMU: In a gruesome attack, Pakistani troops on Tuesday crossed into Indian territory and ambushed an Army patrol party killing two soldiers whose heads were reportedly chopped off.


The attack took place along the Line of Control in Poonch district when Pakistanis came about 100 metres into Indian territory and assaulted the patrol party. Besides killing two Lance Naiks, Hemraj and Sudhakar Singh, they also injured two other soldiers.

During the brutal assault on the patrol party, the Pakistanis are said to have chopped off their heads, one of which they carried with them, informed sources said.

However, the Army, while confirming the killing of Indian soldiers, did not comment on reports that they had been beheaded.

According to the sources, the border action team (BAT) of Pakistani army entered the Indian territory at Krishna Ghati area of Poonch district and carried out the strikes.

Army's Udhampur-based Northern Command came out with a statement terming the attack as a "significant escalation" to the continuing series of ceasefire violations and infiltration attempts supported by Pakistan army.

"A group of their regular soldiers intruded across the Line of Control in the Mendhar sector on January 8. Pakistan army troops, having taken advantage of thick fog and mist in the forested area, were moving towards our posts when an alert area domination patrol spotted and engaged the intruders," it said.

"The fire fight between Pakistan and our troops continued for approximately half an hour after which the intruders retreated towards their side of LoC. Two soldiers Lance Naik Hemraj and Lance Naik Sudhakar Singh laid down their lives while fighting the Pakistani troops," it said without giving any further details.

This is yet another "grave provocation" by Pakistan army which is being taken up sternly through official channels, the statement said.

The external affairs ministry is in touch with the defence ministry over the incident.

There has been escalation in ceasefire violations by Pakistan army, which has been attempting to push militants across the LoC into Indian side by taking advantage of inclement weather.

In last about one month, Pakistan army has violated the ceasefire agreement nearly a dozen times. Most of these firing incidents were in Rajouri, Uri and Keran sector to help infiltration attempts, Army officials said.

The attack comes a day after Pakistan lodged a strong protest over what it described as an "unprovoked Indian attack" on one of its military posts along the Line of Control, a claim which the Indian Army rejected.

Indian deputy high commissioner Gopal Bagley was called to the Foreign Office in Islamabad on Monday and handed over a protest note over the incident in the Haji Pir sector.

The incident had resulted in the death of a Pakistani soldier and injuries to another, the Pakistani side claimed.
 
Kamzor ko Naa to Haq milta hai aur naa hee Insaaf. Hinsa koi samadhan naheen hai, per jaroorat padne per bhi ahinsa ka dhong bharte rehna bhi kayarta hai. Unhoney 2 maare hain, jawab humen bhi dena chahiye bajay protest karne kay.
 
Pakistan's rulers, unlike India are 2. One is army who only lives on anti-India hatred emotions and another one is common people and government, who have less power but want things to improve.

Right now, India is having an upper hand in talks with Pakistan, we are talking with them everything we want and not talking nothing we dont want, like Kashmir and Siachen and this is frustrating the army core. Pakistani PM recently declared internal security to be a bigger threat than India, which was a welcome step and thus Pakistan Army's agenda of ruling Pak on anti-India emotions is going for a toss.

It is really shameful of Pakistan Army to do any such act, a soldier is a soldier and has to be respected and India must retaliate but we are in a tricky situation right now. If we derail the peace talk(which the Pak-army wants) we would lose the upper hand, if we continue the same way we might lose our army's morale.

Heart goes out to the brave soldiers who attained martyrdom, may their soul rest in peace.
 
Pakistan's rulers, unlike India are 2. One is army who only lives on anti-India hatred emotions and another one is common people and government, who have less power but want things to improve.

Right now, India is having an upper hand in talks with Pakistan, we are talking with them everything we want and not talking nothing we dont want, like Kashmir and Siachen and this is frustrating the army core. Pakistani PM recently declared internal security to be a bigger threat than India, which was a welcome step and thus Pakistan Army's agenda of ruling Pak on anti-India emotions is going for a toss.

It is really shameful of Pakistan Army to do any such act, a soldier is a soldier and has to be respected and India must retaliate but we are in a tricky situation right now. If we derail the peace talk(which the Pak-army wants) we would lose the upper hand, if we continue the same way we might lose our army's morale.

Heart goes out to the brave soldiers who attained martyrdom, may their soul rest in peace.

Pak Army doesnt listen Pak govt,
than, what is meaning to have a so called peace talk with Pak Govt.
govt is not able to say anything to their Army
every year so many terrorist with weapons / ammunition etc are captured while crossing the boarder,
have u listned any news from Pak that so many terrisrst captured when they were crossing the LOC to india.
Pak is exporter of terrorist and well maintained terrorsit production institutes are running under the supervision of their Army.
bad luck , india is importing them and no concrete action is being taken by govt.

सरकार दुवारा विरोध परदर्शन किया जा रहा है
जब आम जनता इंडिया गेट पर विरोध परदर्शन करती है तो आंसू गैस के गोले / वाटर केनन और धारा 144 लगा दी जाती है
अपनी जनता का जरा सा पर्दर्शन झेलना मुस्किल है और अब वही सरकार इस घटना का विरोध पर्दर्शन कर रही है.
PM का कोई स्टेटमेंट तक नहीं आया , VM खुद भर्मित है कुछ पता नहीं लग रहा की कहना क्या चाहता है

जबाब में कांग्रेसी और आप जैसे दिग्गज NDA राज के आंकड़े लेकर आते है की उस समय तो इस से भी बुरे कारनामे हुए थे, यही आज का भारत है
इस तरह की घटनाओ से मिलिट्री का मनोबल कान्हा जायेगा
नार्थ और साउथ ब्लोक में बैठे मंत्रियो और बाबुओ को इस टाइम LOC पर २ महीने के लिए भेजा जाये
जिस हालत म एक सिपाही रहता है उसी हालात में इनको वंहा कुछ दिन रहना पड़े तो सायद कुछ आंखे खुले
 
Sanjeev,

I agree to all of your points but disagree on NDA part. This is beyond politics and that is why I made a satire on Salu as well in other thread who was relating it to politics.

Like I said before as well, govt must to something to keep the morale of army up but at the same time does not have to lose the diplomatic edge it has right now. May be going to International court of justice is one option or may be we can gather evidence and present it to the world but war is certainly not an option and it gets tricky on what to choose.

For the time being, rewarding those brave soldiers for their sacrifice would be a good start.



Pak Army doesnt listen Pak govt,
than, what is meaning to have a so called peace talk with Pak Govt.
govt is not able to say anything to their Army
every year so many terrorist with weapons / ammunition etc are captured while crossing the boarder,
have u listned any news from Pak that so many terrisrst captured when they were crossing the LOC to india.
Pak is exporter of terrorist and well maintained terrorsit production institutes are running under the supervision of their Army.
bad luck , india is importing them and no concrete action is being taken by govt.

सरकार दुवारा विरोध परदर्शन किया जा रहा है
जब आम जनता इंडिया गेट पर विरोध परदर्शन करती है तो आंसू गैस के गोले / वाटर केनन और धारा 144 लगा दी जाती है
अपनी जनता का जरा सा पर्दर्शन झेलना मुस्किल है और अब वही सरकार इस घटना का विरोध पर्दर्शन कर रही है.
PM का कोई स्टेटमेंट तक नहीं आया , VM खुद भर्मित है कुछ पता नहीं लग रहा की कहना क्या चाहता है

जबाब में कांग्रेसी और आप जैसे दिग्गज NDA राज के आंकड़े लेकर आते है की उस समय तो इस से भी बुरे कारनामे हुए थे, यही आज का भारत है
इस तरह की घटनाओ से मिलिट्री का मनोबल कान्हा जायेगा
नार्थ और साउथ ब्लोक में बैठे मंत्रियो और बाबुओ को इस टाइम LOC पर २ महीने के लिए भेजा जाये
जिस हालत म एक सिपाही रहता है उसी हालात में इनको वंहा कुछ दिन रहना पड़े तो सायद कुछ आंखे खुले
 
Indian Army ko b ab govt. order ki wait kiye bina unka jawab dena chahiye.

Pak Army waha ki govt. ki nahi sunti aur goli chalane k liye unhe permission ki b jaroorat ni hoti, lekin Indian Army ko jawabi me goli chalane k liye b pehle apne seniors k order ka wait karna padta t, tab to humare kuch jawan saheed ho chuke hote hain.....system change hona chahiye.
 
politicians have started showing their SABR KA BAANDH which is full to the brim but alas! everytime it is same agali baar isscheez ko bardast nahi kiya jayega.......

agenda is clear those who go in army are worthless for our politicians becoz koi merta rahe netaji ko koi farrk nahi padta netaji ka koi bhi relative army mai nahi hai...............politicians have made our nation a cartoon in international diplomacy istead of watching cartoons like tom and jerry we should wathc our diplomats .
 
Peaceful dialogue with Pakistan..keep debating and crying on our beheaded soldiers
nothing more to say
Good Night

We must not be so negative because of such small incident. Pakistan is peace loving country and Pakistani people are very loving and caring. Only few people hate India. In India also, we see people hate Pakistan, so don't blame only Pakistanis. We should give free VISA to all Pakistanis. Trade, sports, music, dance programs should be encouraged to release tension. Aman to hoga, yeh Asha rakho.
 
काश्मीर सीमा पर भारतीय सेना के दो सैनिकों की पाकिस्तानी मुल्लों द्वारा हत्या और उनके शव को क्षत-विक्षत करने के साथ एक भारतीय सैनिक के शीश को काट कर पाकिस्तान ले जाने की घटना पर क्या किसी ने ''आप'' अथवा टोपीवाल अथवा खुजलीवाल का कहीं कोई बयान सुना है ...................???
 
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पाकिस्तान द्वारा दो भारतीय सैनिकों की निर्मम हत्या की दुखद घटना पर पाकिस्तान को उत्तर देने के लिए सेना के एक उच्च पदाधिकारी द्वारा प्रधानमंत्री को किया गया फोन।


यदि विभिन्न नेता प्रधानमन्त्री होते तो उनके सेना के उच्च पदाधिकारी के लिए क्या उत्तर होता आइये जानते हैं :-



सेना अधिकारी : सर, आज शत्रुओं की ओर से हमारे दो जवान शहीद कर दिए गए हैं, आपका क्या आदेश है ?



मनमोहन सिंह : ............... .... मैडम जी से पूछकर बताता हूँ l



राहुल गाँधी : पाकिस्तानियों से बड़े शत्रु हिन्दू संगठन हैं पहले उन पर कार्यवाही करो l



चिदम्बरम : हर आक्रमण रोक पाना संभव नहीं ऐसी घटनाएँ तो होती रहती हैं l



मुलायम सिंह : कुछ भी हुआ हो पर किसी मुसलमान को कोई हानि नहीं पहुंचनी चाहिए l



मायावती : पहले ये बताओ कि मरने वाले जवान दलित थे अथवा मनुवादी ?



नितीश कुमार : फ़िलहाल अगले आदेश की प्रतीक्षा करें, हमारे किसी भी निर्णय से देश का सांप्रदायिक सद्भाव खतरे में पड़ सकता है l



नरेन्द्र मोदी : वो 2 शीश ले गए हैं तो मुझे उनके 10 शीश चाहिए l



सेना अधिकारी : पर सर, इसके लिए LOC को लांघना होगा,अन्तराष्ट्रीय बिरादरी रुष्ट होगी l



नरेन्द्र मोदी : अन्तराष्ट्रीय बिरादरी से मैं निपट लूँगा पर मुझे शत्रुओं के 10 शीश चाहिए, इसके लिए आपको मैं पूरी छूट देता हूँ और इसके लिए आपको हर प्रकार की सहायता दी जाएगी l
 
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राजमहल को शर्म नहीं है घायल होती थाती पर,
भारत मुर्दाबाद लिखा है श्रीनगर की छाती पर.....!
मन करता है फूल चढ़ा दूं लोकतंत्र की अर्थी पर,
भारत के बेटे निर्वासित हैं अपनी ही धरती पर....!
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[h=5]पाकिस्तान की चिकनी चमेली हिना रब्*बानी खार ने भारतीय सैनिकों की हत्या पर भारत को ही कठघरे में खड़ा करते हुए कहा है कि सैनिक भारत की सीमा में ही मरे हैं। खार का कहना है कि पाकिस्*तान बदला लेने की नीति में विश्वास नहीं रखता है। दोनों देशों को शत्रुता नहीं बढ़ानी चाहिए संभवतः मोहतरमा खार का होमवर्क पूरा नहीं है अथवा फिर उसके ज्ञान को जंग लग चुका है, खार को स्मरण आना चाहिए कि पाकिस्तान में एक नेता हुआ करती थी बेनजीर भुट्टो जिनको कुछ वर्षों पहले पाकिस्तान के ही पाले सपोलों ने बहुत बेनजीर तरीके से इस संसार से उठा दिया था। इन्ही मोहतरमा बेनजीर का कहना था कि हम भारत को हज़ार वर्षों तक हजारों घाव देंगे। क्या भूल गयी खार मैडम बेनजीर के इस बयान को???
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Those of you familiar with the concept of al Taqiyya in the
Qur'an, as also the conduct of Muhammad during and between his wars
against the Banu Quraish tribe and the Jews of Mecca, would know that
Islam explicitly condones hiding one's true intentions and loyalties,
lying, deception, treachery and making false peace treaties with enemies
to be able to regroup before waging war again, as long as the goal is
to further the cause of Islam. These tactics have been practiced by
almost all successful Islamic invaders and conquerors through the ages.
For example, remember what happened when Shahab-ud-din Muhammad Ghori first invaded north India in
1191 A.D. The then ruler of Delhi (and modern day Rajasthan, Punjab,
Haryana, MP and UP) Prithviraj Chauhan easily defeated Ghori in the first
battle of Tarain. Ghori asked for forgiveness, and the liberal Chauhan
was only too willing to give it. (Note that this was the post-Gupta
empire "golden age" period of India and we were an extremely liberal,
relaxed and tolerant Hindu society; this is the same era and society
that built the Khajuraho temples after all. It is only natural that
"Aman ki Asha"-type bleeding-heart peaceniks must have been dominant in
those times as well.) However, only a year later -- as usual, as
expected and as is typical of modern day Pakistan also -- Ghori broke
the peace. He had used the intervening year to regroup his war
apparatus and rebuild an even larger Islamic army to invade India. This
time he won the second battle of Tarain in 1192 A.D., and
promptly proceeded to execute Chauhan, his wife and children, their
extended families, the entire class of noblemen, warriors and
priests/intellectuals in Delhi (I'm sure the peaceniks who forgave his
life a year earlier must not have been spared either), and then went on
to sack and loot Delhi. A genocide followed, and after installing his
slave-cum-general Qutb-ud-din Aibak on the throne (who founded the first
Slave dynasty of the Delhi Sultanate), Ghori returned to his capital
Ghazni with a few hundred elephant-loads of gold, gemstones and slaves
from India. This incident (and the blunder of forgiving Ghori and his barbaric invading army in 1191
A.D.) was to be the turning point that was to condemn the fate of India
and Indians (politically, socially and economically) for the next 800 years.
Pakistan is essentially playing the same game today. And instead of
following Chanakya's intelligent and firm iron-fisted approach towards
security and foreign policy, today India is repeating the flawed
over-liberal policies (of being foolishly friendly with an untrustworthy
enemy) that became the doom of India in the 12th century A.D.
 
[h=5]क्या लाभ अग्नि-1, अग्नि-2, अग्नि-3 अग्नि-4, ब्रहमोश, पृथ्वी , अर्जुन, मिग-21 और ना जाने असंख्य हथियारों का जो हमारी स्वयं की सेना के प्राण नही बचा सकते. या फिर देश की नपुसंक सरकार उन्हे केवल 26 जनवरी को राजपथ पर परेड करने के लिये बनाती है।[/h]
 
[h=5]प्राप्त सूचना के अनुसार, "Debating Society of India" और "Debating Society of Pakistan" के कुछ तथाकथित बुद्धिजीवी दिल्ली के ताज पैलेस होटल में आज भारत-पाकिस्तान के मधुर संबंधों(?) को लेकर एक चर्चा कर रहे हैं... जिसे प्रस्तुत किया है संस्था "अमन की आशा" ने.

इस कार्यक्रम के मुख्य सूत्रधार होंगे, तीन (या चार) शादियाँ करने, हम जैसों को "कैटल" बोलने वाले तथा ५ सितारा जीवन शैली वाले माननीय शशि थरूर, जबकि अन्य प्रमुख वक्ताओं में शामिल होंगे अंडमान की सेलुलर जेल से वीर सावरकर के नाम की पट्टियाँ अपमानजनक तरीके से हटवाने वाले तथा सड़े हुए चेहरे पर सदा खिन्नता और हिकारत का भाव रखने वाले "मणिशंकर अय्यर"...

पाकिस्तान की तरफ से वक्ता होंगे नजम सेठी, जावेद जब्बार और वजाहत खान...

इस शानदार होटल में, शैम्पेन के जाम टकराते हुए इन बुद्धिजीवियों(?) के बीच जो चर्चा होगी, उससे निश्चित ही भारत-पाकिस्तान के सम्बन्ध सुधरेंगे...

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अब भगवान के लिए, सैनिकों के कटे हुए सर आदि के बारे में बात मत कीजिए... ऐसा करने से बुद्धिजीवियों का मूड खराब हो जाता है... और वे ठीक से चर्चा नहीं कर पाते...
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