Looks like things are getting bad there and chances of another round can not be ruled out. Thieves are having field day with tube wells where starters and wires are being stolen every night.
RK^2
This whole world has known now that Muslims are very weak in West U.P. Mostly of them are on the mercy of Jats. Only 10% Muslims can defy the Jats there, while 90% Jats are farmers cum warriors. They are civilians but they are as deadly as warriors. If another round goes on then this time more than 1 lac will be displaced and Jats' tabals, gandasas and bullets will kill them later, first they will fall prey to the hunger and malnutrition.
Upender ji,
I believe we should not be concerned with what the whole world knows or thinks. The fact of the matter is that Jat self-respect has been badly bruised under the patronage of SP govt. (primarily Azam who calls himself a vazir and not mantri) given to muslims.
Jat girls have been molested and still are unsafe. Jat peasants still not dare venture out into their fields where the crops/plants urgently seek attention/care.
The community has been helpless in the face of the fact that it stood alone in the fight against the muslims with very marginal (almost non-existent) support from other Hindu communities thanks to the media/political game of terming it a Jat-Muslim conflict.
There is no end to Ifs and buts. If another round happens? Who has seen another round?
Instead of patting ourselves on the back in the backdrop of sense of false security, it is time that we as a community introspect and think of remedial measures.
Brother, it is your disbelief that Jat self-respect has been badly bruised (at least so far). Do you dream any war/fight with 0:100 ratio? If yes, then I can't help it. All Jat peasants are going to their fields except 0.01% area. All have understood which kind of case it was.
You are twisting the facts. There is a huge difference between teasing and molestation. Those girls were being teased, not molested (and in fact you can not rule out the possibility that it was not the case of teasing or molestation). One more thing. There are lot of Indians live in UK, USA and many other countries. Many of them rape the local girls and even kill them. When India was slave to the Britishers then many Indians killed many Britishers, while Britishers were rulers here.Upenderji, From what you say, I gather that Jats in W.UP are invincible. If they are so feared and respected as you say, why in the first place Jat girls were being molested?
How did the Mullahs garner the guts to lynch two Jat boys? How did the Mullahs garner the guts to kill and throw Jats alongwith their tractor-trolleys into Jolly canal?
I strongly believe that despite us being a martial race and warriors, we have been put on the backfoot by the Mullahs of course aided by the political patronage of Azam (Vazir or UP sultanate).
.............There are lot of Indians live in UK, USA and many other countries. Many of them rape the local girls and even kill them.
You are twisting the facts. There is a huge difference between teasing and molestation. Those girls were being teased, not molested (and in fact you can not rule out the possibility that it was not the case of teasing or molestation). One more thing. There are lot of Indians live in UK, USA and many other countries. Many of them rape the local girls and even kill them. When India was slave to the Britishers then many Indians killed many Britishers, while Britishers were rulers here.
Furthermore it is not written on the forehead of some girl whether she is Jat or what. Don't try to play fool with others here. Other also have mind. Can you claim that in other Jat dominant state/regions Jat girls are not teased by the non Jats? This teasing, molestation, rape, eloping etc. is a universal phenomenon.
Two Jat boys had murdered the Mullahs boy in his own locality. Then too it was not written on the forehead of those two boys that they were Jats. In such a situation what do you expect? Should the local Mullahs have let those two boys go, because they were Jats? Amazing if you think so. And don't you think it was strict punishment for teasing or molestation in your words? If it is so then uncountable people should be murdered daily because this teasing happens daily with mostly girls. The two boys took wrong step in a fit of rage. They had given a deep wound to their family members too. One of those two boys was only son left in the family and other had wife and son to look after.
Don't know what is the base of your such belief. It was unexpected attack on the Jats. The Jats had killed many Mullahs while going to the mahapanchayat. After that unexpected attack we killed almost double Mullahs. They displaced due to fear. We have proved there that public is the real government in democratic country. If we don't vote unitedly then it doesn't mean we will not unite even on some sensitive issue. Azam (Vazir of UP sultanate) had to hide when he saw his fellow Muslim brothers displacing and seeking refuge in madarsas.
Abhik Rana Bhai- “Jat Shehtoot Ke Peid ki Tarah Hota Hai, Jitna Katata hai Utna Bhadhta Hai”
Eve teasing is on High by Muslim boys not against Jats but every Martial Race. However, it was only Jat Boys who had courage to go to Muslim village and take the revenge. The reason Muslims were able to attack Jats was because of the Support from the Govt. Always remember Lions are most vulnerable when they roam in a flock. They are overconfident and assume nobody can dare to mess with them. That’s exactly what happened to Jats while they were returning from Panchayat. They were together and assumed that nobody will dare to touch them. Even USA was attacked due to overconfidence but what USA did after that we all know.
This is not the first time Jats have been attacked by Muslims. First time it was done by Aurangzeb. In 1670 his soldier started killing Jats and harassing Jat women. That triggered a revolt against Aurangzeb. Whole Mughal Sultanate came under immense attack by Jats around Mathura, Agra and Fatehpur Sikri. Gokul from Mathura led that revolt. Gokul killed Mughal Fauzdar and several Mughal soldiers. In the end he was defeated and captured. Aurangzeb ripped his arms and legs in Agra and that place is known as Gokul Chowk. According to Manucci the Jats dragged out the bones of Akbar, threw them angrily into fire and burnt them to avenge the death of Gokula. Muhammad Baqa (the Naib of Khan-i-Jahan) who was then at Agra, did nothing to frustrate the rebels. As a punishment, therefore, 500 and that of Khan-i-Jahan reduced his mansab by 1000 sawars. The Jats also ransacked the villages, set aside for the support of Taj Mahal. Some Jats ravaged the environs of Khurja, while others captured the local Mughal officers at Palwal.
After that the ERA of Maharaj Sural Mal started and whole Western UP and Haryana came under the rule of Suraj Mal. Again after 343 years the history has been repeated. Jats have come out as a winner in this conflict and they are now ready for winning the next battle of Lok Sabha elections. After Muzaffarnagar Jats are like a wounded Lion. This anger will turn Western UP into a BJP Bastion.
As I said in the beginning ““Jat Shehtoot Ke Peid ki Tarah Hota Hai, Jitna Katata hai Utna Bhadhta Hai”.
“Ab Katna Khatam, Bhadna Shuru”
There are lot of Indians live in UK, USA and many other countries. Many of them rape the local girls and even kill them. When India was slave to the Britishers then many Indians killed many Britishers, while Britishers were rulers here.
This whole world has known now that Muslims are very weak in West U.P. Mostly of them are on the mercy of Jats. Only 10% Muslims can defy the Jats there, while 90% Jats are farmers cum warriors. They are civilians but they are as deadly as warriors. If another round goes on then this time more than 1 lac will be displaced and Jats' tabals, gandasas and bullets will kill them later, first they will fall prey to the hunger and malnutrition.
I am not twisting any facts and neither would twisting of facts benefit me in any way. And by the way, I am also not fooling around, but you sure want others to live in fool's paradise by saying that everything is hunky dory and there needs to be no change in our future strategy towards others.
I am at a loss to understand the logic put forward by you - that if Indians in US are molested and if in the rest of India, Jat girls are molested by non-Jats, then there is nothing great/serious that Jat girls were molested/eve-teased by Muslims boys. I find this logic strange in the backdrop of your statement that despite what happened we should continue living in the belief that Jats are invincible. Today we might still be relatively the dominant community, but what happens tomorrow when the minority is no longer a minority (And which is all too imminent)?? Jats have also suffered in the communal violence. We need to plan for the future in a manner that we do NOT suffer even a bit in the future.
What more can I say when you have put the blame squarely on the two Jat boys who were only trying to protect the dignity and honour of their sister and in which unfortunately the culprit got killed. This needs to be seen in the backdrop of the fact that neither the family of the culprits nor the police cooperated in redressing the grievance/problem.
According to you 'This teasing, molestation, rape, eloping etc. is a universal phenomenon'. So, Jat girls should also learn to live with it and accept it as their fate and then you say that Jats in W.UP are invincible. There is a dichotomy.
Please don't make the picture look all too rosy which it is evidently not. There is need for introspecting and taking corrective action.
In your earlier posts you seemed to be bent upon to prove that Jats in West U.P. lost all their dignity and self respect due to this conflict, which was objectionable, because it is insult of those brave Jats who hit back. Others also follow news, facts, media reports, videos, incidents, so they also understand what is what.
Your this post is ok. Yes, sure we should be alert in future. As far as your this thought is concerned that 'Jat girls should also learn to live with it', then I would say 'no'. But it is also not good to kill the culprit devastating whole family. Sachin's elder brother died in an accident some months back and after that he was only son of his parents. Gaurav had wife and a little son.
Upender Singh, Sorry brother but you are talking pure non sense.
Make some friends and have some rest.
I also had read your earlier post which you deleted later. You should give some logic to prove that I am talking non sense, otherwise mind your own business. You seem to have some old grudge against me and now seeking some chance to vent that out.
There are lot of Indians live in UK, USA and many other countries. Many of them rape the local girls and even kill them.
In the earlier post you might have seen it I said the same thing but in different word.
I repeat again your post below is non sense. There is nothing to prove its self explanatory. I normally avoid such ridiculous posts but couldn't stop myself this time.
Read again what you are saying.
And I say it was not non sense. Truth is bitter and some people don't want to accept it. Listen, Abhik Rana's related post meant that how could Muslims dare to tease/molest Jat girls in U.P.? They should be afraid of the word 'Jat'. I said it is no where in this world that others are afraid of just name of caste or creed. Many Indians go to foreign countries to earn bread and butter. The countries (UK, USA etc.) they go to, are supposed to be most powerful in the world. In such a case, Indians (who are a weak minority there) should be afraid of the local people's power in those countries, but still some Indians dare to rape and kill the local girls. So why Jats in U.P. should be provoked to say that their daughters are being teased (which is hyped in fact) by the Muslims? A culprit commits the crime and then faces the consequences. What is non sense in it?
You read it :
Safety warning issued to taxi users after suspected rape
Taxi users in Windsor and Maidenhead have been warned by the Royal Borough to make sure they check they are using drivers and vehicles that are licensed and regulated.
The council’s message comes after a 19-year-old woman was sexually assaulted on Saturday last week after leaving Liquid in Windsor and got into a car she thought was a cab.
Borough safety chiefs say the public safety incident underlined the need for would-be passengers to check the car they get into is a ‘proper taxi’.
Licensed cabs carry distinctive registration plates – one for hackney carriages which can be hailed in the street and a different one for private hire cars that must be booked in advance.
Cllr Carwyn Cox, cabinet member for environmental services, said it was ‘important’ borough residents and visitors can be confident they are getting into a safe taxi.
He said systems are in place to help ensure drivers are people users can trust and would-be passengers get into licensed vehicles.
Cllr Cox advised taxi users to make sure they check the roof sign and registration plate before getting into the taxi.
The council is working with owners and drivers to roll out the borough’s livery, of which half the 148 licensed cabs now have to make licensed hackney carriages more visible.
The aim is to eventually have all hackney carriages in white and sporting the council’s logo, set at an angle on both sides of the vehicle.
Chief Inspector Lee Townsend, deputy local area police commander, said taxi drivers must be aware of the need to offer their customers a ‘totally safe service’.
He said: “Following recent allegations we have contacted drivers and owners to remind them of their responsibilities.
“And offer practical hints on how to operate their businesses professionally and to the highest standards.”
He added police are aware there are some individuals ‘masquerading’ as taxi drivers, which is an ‘issue’ for the force.
Anshul Sharma, 23, of Hencroft Street South in Slough is due to appear at Reading Crown Court on Monday on suspicion of rape in connection with the incident on Saturday.
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Some years back there was a very infamous rape and murder case in UK. An Indian Punjabi man raped and killed a school going English girl and then fled to India. After that girl's parents came to India and via media showed the picture of that culprit. He was nabbed from somewhere in North-East where he was living in disguise. So we should be alert, it's ok, but how can someone dare, that's provoking and wrong.
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