The true nature of Jan Lok Pal Bill Movement

[sjakhars]

Atish Ji,
Thank you very much for the detailed replies. It takes a lot of effort indeed.

1. There is a suggestion that CVC can be merged in lokpal by Mr. Buch, I have suggested the same in one of my post and that came by instinct only, I have never read it anywhere. I say citizens charter, public grievance redressal should also be under lokpal.

2. The Jan lokpal includes citezen's charter which Mr. Buch talks about punishing the public officer who doesn't perform his duties in timely manner.

3. There is a provision of Public Grievance redressal in the Jan lokpal, same is being suggested by Mr. Buch.

4. Jan lokpal also have provisions for false complaints and punishment to this kind people.

5. Jan Lokpal has provisions for the security of whistle blowers.

6. CBI is not the only agency which deals the sensitive issuses, there is RAW, IB and newly established NIA. Bringing anti-corruption unit of CBI under lokpal will not hurt the independence of CBI in anyway. CBI under executive control has been misused and we all know that. Why it can't be made independent like EC or CAG?

7. A separate investigating agency can be constituted under lokpal if CBI doesn't want to be under lokpal but CBI must be independent.

8. CAG is accountable to the parliament through president, report of CAG can not be altered or disapproved by the executive, it has to be tabled in the parliament as it is with an ATR (action taken report) by the executive. Executive is accountable to the parliament. There is a balance of powers between judiciary, executive and parliament but parliament is supreme if any conflict arises (excluding fundamental provisions of the constitution where supreme court has upper hand). Parliament can enact a law within fundamental areas of the constitution and even supreme court can not override it. CAG has autonomy in tenure, financial and functional areas. EC has almost the same status. Same can be given to lokpal, whats the harm?

9. The govt. has brought several bills on the issues covered by Jan lokpal like public grievance redressal bill, whistle blowers bill, the citizens charter bill and judiciary accountability bill. I am not in favor of bringing higher judiciary under lokpal so OK with separate judiciary accountability bill but others could be brought under one institution is that lokpal as all these deal with almost the same area.

10. As I said, CBI must be autonomous body, no need to bring CBI under lokpal but anti-corruption unit should be under lokpal or give a separate investigative agency to lokpal. If we can have CBI, IB, RAW, NIA etc., I think we can afford one more.

11. As we all know, investigative agencies and prosecution work very closely so no harm in giving these powers to lokpal.

All in all, I say that Jan lokpal meets most of things suggested by Mr. Buch. As far as administrative reforms are concerned, if the govt. and the system are not bringing them, who can force. If our bureaucrates and politicians had been honest, we wouldn't need any lokpal or CVC or anything.

I don't really believe Mr. Buch that the IAS/IPS and the politicians before 1967 were that honest and well-wisher of the Indian public. IAS/IAS have legacy from the British era and they still carry it. Before 1947, they worked for Britishers and after that, they worked/working for the brown Britishers. How many IAS/IPS have left the services to protest against unethical political pressure? only a few I guess. I would say, bureaucrates and politicians are all hand in glove. They have an established system and resist any change.

I would also say that lokpal may not be able to remove/control corruption 100% and remove all wrongdoings but I am sure it will help in a great way. We have seen administrative reforms commissions, one of which was headed by Veerappa Moily too but haven't seen many changes so we can't just wait for another one and let it's recommendations die in oblivion.

 

[sjakhars]

लोकपाल के बाद चुनाव सुधार के लिए अन्ना का अगला आन्दोलन होना है.
जिस तरह से उप्र और अन्य राज्यों में गाड़ियों में नोटों से भरे बैग मिल रहे हैं उससे साफ़ पता चलता है की किस तरह का प्रचार और खरीदफरोख्त होगी चुनावों में.

http://khabar.ndtv.com/news/show/up-polls-13-crores-found-in-a-van-in-ghaziabad-16444

 

[vicky84]

2. Power concentration. Centralised power can turn into a nightmare. Decentralisation of power is must in order to curb the corruption. Example: IAS, IPS. Too much power is given to IAS and IPS is a one of the cause of corruption.

Indian bureaucrats have 'terrific powers', rated worst in Asia​

Too much power given to bureaucrats turns ugly. Bureaucrats(Top Officers) misuse power and result in more corruption. My point is, unless you do not decentralise the power, you won't be able to get rid of corruption. India is worse in Asia when it comes to power given to bureaucrats. I am quoting article from TOI :

SINGAPORE: ​

Indian bureaucracy

is the worst in Asia with a 9.21 rating out of 10, according to a report by a prestigious consulting firm based in Hong Kong.
India fared worse than ​

Vietnam

(rated at 8.54),​

Indonesia

(8.37), ​

Philippines

(7.57) and China (7.11), said the report by Political & Economic Risk Consultancy Ltd released on Wednesday.​

Singapore

remained the best with a rating of 2.25, followed by Hong Kong (3.53), ​

Thailand

(5.25) ​

Taiwan

(5.57), Japan (5.77), South Korea (5.87) and ​

Malaysia

(5.89).

The report said India's inefficient bureaucracy was largely responsible for most of the biggest complaints that business executive have about the country.

The complaints included inadequate infrastructure and corruption, where officials were willing to accept under-the- table payments and companies were tempted to pay to overcome bureaucratic inertia and gain government favours, the report claimed.

The report also highlighted onerous and fickle tax, environmental and other regulations that could make business in India "so frustrating and expensive".

It said dealing with court system in India was an unattractive option for companies, and would be best to avoid it.

The bureaucrats were rarely held accountable for wrong decisions and it would be extremely difficult to challenge them when there were disagreements, it said.

"This gives them (bureaucrats) terrific powers and could be one of the main reasons why average Indians as well as existing and would-be foreign investors perceive India's bureaucrats as negatively as they do," said the report.

But there were plus points when India was compared to countries within the economic development group.

In the ​

2011-12 Global Competitiveness Report

of the ​

World Economic Forum

, India ranked behind China but ahead of ​

Russia

and Brazil for the burden of government regulations as well as for the burden of customs procedures.

India was also second to Brazil but well ahead of China and Russia for the quality of regulation and supervision of the securities exchange, said the report.

India was also better than Brazil, Russia and China as the fastest place to set up a new business and to deal with construction permits, and was the second fastest place to deal with export and import procedures, the report said.​

 

[singhvp]

लोकपाल के बाद चुनाव सुधार के लिए अन्ना का अगला आन्दोलन होना है.
जिस तरह से उप्र और अन्य राज्यों में गाड़ियों में नोटों से भरे बैग मिल रहे हैं उससे साफ़ पता चलता है की किस तरह का प्रचार और खरीदफरोख्त होगी चुनावों में.

http://khabar.ndtv.com/news/show/up-polls-13-crores-found-in-a-van-in-ghaziabad-16444

I think, Team Anna has read all our posts under this thread. After a thoughtful consideration, they have now decided not to oppose any one single party in the forthcoming Assembly elections. A wise decision. Had they consulted me earlier, I would have chalked out a very judicious plan of action for them.

Ultimately, good sense has dawned upon them and they have vindicated the stand taken by me and a few other mature friends on this site as well as on FB, Twitter etc. Kejriwaal is getting mature gradually and let us hope for an effective campaign against corruption and malpractices in election in near future. Thanks Anna ji for this wise decision.

 

[arvindc]

I think, Team Anna has read all our posts under this thread. After a thoughtful consideration, they have now decided not to oppose any one single party in the forthcoming Assembly elections. A wise decision. Had they consulted me earlier, I would have chalked out a very judicious plan of action for them.

Ultimately, good sense has dawned upon them and they have vindicated the stand taken by me and a few other mature friends on this site as well as on FB, Twitter etc. Kejriwaal is getting mature gradually and let us hope for an effective campaign against corruption and malpractices in election in near future. Thanks Anna ji for this wise decision.

I hope the congress party and their ministers also read these posts. May be Sir, being an ambassador of this forum to the government, you can forward these and give them a chance to improve themselves, the country and the whole environment in which we live.

Anyone, who has hope that this government may improve, may please try this. A sincere request.

 

[singhvp]

I hope the congress party and their ministers also read these posts. May be Sir, being an ambassador of this forum to the government, you can forward these and give them a chance to improve themselves, the country and the whole environment in which we live.

Anyone, who has hope that this government may improve, may please try this. A sincere request.

Arvind, when I come to this forum, I leave my official coat and tie behind because it is more relaxing without the official costume. So, let us not mess up our interaction with officialdom.

You would agree that it is a paradigm shift by Team Anna and we must welcome this as it will take a good movement in a right direction.

 

[arvindc]

Arvind, when I come to this forum, I leave my official coat and tie behind because it is more relaxing without the official costume. So, let us not mess up our interaction with officialdom.

You would agree that it is a paradigm shift by Team Anna and we must welcome this as it will take a good movement in a right direction.

I believe, the idea behind anti-Congress stand by the IAC movement was to put pressure on the current regime and not really anti-congress or pro-BJP. Had the BJP government been in power and had it behaved on similar lines, the stand would have been anti-BJP. So, I believe, the direction of putting pressure on the current regime was (and is) also in good faith and right direction.

 

[vicky84]

[h=2]The laws of economics NEVER bend. So if a Lokpal comes in, without changing policies, guess what will happen?[/h]
I've repeatedly explained that the Lokpal Bill does NOT address the causes of corruption. It merely tries to catch those who are corrupt. That would be fine if 1 per cent were corrupt. But the SOCIALIST POLICIES in India GENERATE CORRUPT people in the MILLIONS (including ALL Ministers). So the task being given to the LP isTOTALLY futile.
Without policy change the disease of corruption CANNOT be cured. It is NECESSARY to build a system where the incentives are designed to ensure that only the honest enter, and policies do not generate corruption.
But, of course, that requires POLICY thinking - which is clearly well beyond the ken of people like Anna Hazare or even "smart" people Arvind Kejriwal, and Kiran Bedi - it would appear.
ONLY well-thought out policies, based on a sound understanding of ECONOMIC incentives, work in real life. Everything else is a waste. But such deep thinking is so rare as to be almost totally absent in India. (Hence the socialist nightmare that India is still going through – its SHODDY thinking has cost it millions of lost lives and created unbelievably bad governance.)
Yesterday I put out this parody by Jaspal Bhatti about how India could come to a standstill if the LP Bill is introduced. His was an extreme take (comedians must exaggerate), but Sharad Bailur has said it VERY WELL and succinctly on FB. Here's his comment, below.


He (Jaspal Bhatti) is right. The country WILL come to a standstill. Here is my take from my article due to be published in Freedom First (October issue):
'Put yourself in the shoes of a government servant. You have been (reluctantly or inefficiently) doing the work assigned to you lubricated by bribes up to now. Tomorrow a Lokpal (pristine and uncorrupt and a firm devotee of Anna) ensures that your bribe gravy train comes to a dead halt.
Will you still do the work? Or will you stop doing the work? Remember there is no clear way to punish a government servant for not doing his work. You cannot get rid of him. His job is secure under a government mandated law.
THIS MAKES ANY EFFICIENCY ON THE PART OF THE LOKPAL IN DOING HIS JOB A PERFECT RECIPE FOR INSTANT AND TOTAL PARALYSIS OF GOVERNANCE.
So the pressure will mount on the Lokpal to the extent that it will become impossible for the Lokpal to continue to do any useful work – or if ‘Economic Determinism’ works, as it must, the Lokpal himself will become the fount of corruption.
There will therefore be an additional layer of bribing to be done to get your work done.

My further comments
In economic theory there is a thing called UNINTENDED consequences. Bad policy has LOTS of unintended consequences.
Poor Anna and his team are so innocent about the LAWS of economics that their actions are likely to – in the worst case – significantly put a brake on the economic growth of India. In the best case, these actions will have NO impact on corruption, which will merely be driven underground.
Only when "educated" Indians begin to learn to think carefully, when they realise that the laws of economics NEVER bend (for these are based on human nature) will the BASIC commonsense ideas I have been preaching start to resonate in India.
Currently the PEOPLE of India in their collective wisdom have elected these thugs (who are naturally very bad policy makers) for the past 60 years. They are clearly very frustrated but they don't realise that the system is now designed to ONLY allow thugs to enter.
In their state of utter confusion they fail to understand that they need people like me – both honest and competent – to take charge of India's governance. For I CAN fix India's problems – through good policy. But they would much rather elect the same incompetents they've always done (I gather that BJP – yet another socialist party, a mere branch of Congress – is now the favourite!)
But of course there is no one to advise them about good policy. Our journalists have almost no understanding of economics, except a couple of notable exceptions. Indians take policy advice from economic ILLITERATES. What can be done?
They used to say in the past: यथा राजा तथा प्रजा. For a democracy this has become: यथा प्रजा तथा राजा. It is therefore crucial for the public to become educated, else thugs will rise to the top.

 

[vicky84]

What will happen if we implement a Lokpal without eliminating the socialist policies?

a) Reality: A Lokpal can’t stop the generation of corruption
India’s socialist policies put excessive power and discretion in the hands of decision-makers. Each law that allows a politician or bureaucrat to interfere in economic activity creates an opportunity for corruption. The Lokpal does not change such policies, nor reform the electoral system to reduce the need for corrupt money during elections. Therefore, the Lokpal cannot prevent the continuous generation of corruption. It will be far more effective if we change socialist policies.

b) Reality: The Lokpal can’t catch even a fraction of the corrupt
A Lokpal will become viable and effective if only one per cent (or less) of India’s politicians and bureaucrats are corrupt. But when 99 percent of them are corrupt, then catching a few corrupt people here or there will hardly make a difference. The cancer must be addressed at the source.

c) Reality: Corruption “charges” will increase because of the Lokpal
Because the corrupt will now have to factor in the (presumably slightly) higher probability of being caught, the “rate” they demand for their “services” will increase.

d) Reality: Corruption will be driven even more underground
The Lokpal, under the current system, will merely drive corruption more underground – into more hidden methods. Greater outflows of corrupt money from India will occur to Switzerland or other tax havens. In this “game” of corruption, it is best to stop corruption in the first place, not to waste precious time and resources in chasing corrupt people across the world.

e) Reality: The big fish will escape
Under the current system, big fish can easily access various sophisticated methods of corruption. They can also hire expensive lawyers to exploit loopholes in the legal system to delay and subvert justice, should any case be launched against them. In general, the big fish will escape scrutiny (or punishment) and the Lokpal will be forced to focus on small fry.

f) Reality: Government inefficiency will increase
The Indian Constitution provides extraordinary protections to public servants. There is therefore virtually no way available for governments to punish public servants who do not perform their work properly. If their opportunities for corruption are reduced then public servants are likely to even further slow down their work, leading to total paralysis of governance. The Lokpal (if it becomes even slightly effective, and therefore reduces corruption) will end up putting a severe brake on India’s economic growth.

h) Reality: Lokpal could itself become corrupt
Corrupt politicians and government servants have plenty of money to bribe investigative agencies – and judges. Under the current dispensation there is very significant corruption both in the government and judiciary. It is not difficult to see a situation, particularly with lowly paid Lokpal employees, when the Lokpal officials start accepting bribes.

i) Reality: Lokpal can’t deliver results because of India’s court system
The Lokpal cannot deliver results because it does not control the courts. As Swami Aiyar has pointed out:Even if the Lokpal controls the CBI, it will have no control over the courts. These seem incapable of convicting any resourceful person beyond appeals within his or her lifetime. Little will be achieved if the Lokpal initiates a thousand cases that then drag on for decades, with the accused out on bail.FTI does not recommend scrapping the principles of natural justice for those charged with corruption. We need systemic reforms that include the policies outlined earlier, as well as a strong justice system to quickly and effectively punish the corrupt.

6. Other questions people have regarding the Lokpal

a) What are the mechanisms apart from Lokpal to stop corruption?

Alternative mechanisms to reducing corruption have been outlined above. These are far more effective and involve two key changes:

(i) Reduce the need for corruption: ensure electoral reforms that motivate good people to enter politics, and pay a certain amount per valid vote cast to candidates; and

(ii) Reduce the opportunity for corruption: remove socialist policies so that people can undertake economic activity without unnecessary government regulation.Currently, no political party offers such systemic reforms in India. Without political leadership, however, such reforms cannot be implemented. FTI is a platform for those who understand such reforms to step forward and contest elections. Only then will such systemic reforms be introduced, bringing an end to corruption.

b) Why does FTI not support the Lokpal, given that Hong Kong has a Lokpal-like model?

Hong Kong is highly ranked on Transparency International rankings (currently No. 12, below countries like Australia and New Zealand which do not have any Lokpal).Not very long ago, Hong Kong was a very corrupt country. Its reforms, do not include just an Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC, which started in 1974), but a wide range of policy initiatives such as good governance, world-best economic policy and high quality education. The existence of ICAC should not be seen in isolation from these broader reforms. Indonesia has tried to copy the Hong Kong model and has failed, because it has not adopted the free market economic model of Hong Kong.As Offstumped has pointed out:“Indonesia’s corruption eradication commission, one message screams out —Indiadoes not need to make Indonesia’s mistakes with the proposed Lokpal Bill. It has been nearly 10 years since the KPK was established by law inIndonesia. Ten years on, no surprises: Corruption has not been eradicated fromIndonesia. Far from eliminating corruption, KPK continues to be at the centre of political intrigue in Indonesia.”A Lokpal cannot succeed in removing corruption without a host of far more basic reforms. FTI believes that there is a place for Lokpal in India’s governance, but not today. Only in due course, as part of an entire suite of governance and economic reforms.

 

[vicky84]

c) Won’t a Lokpal help create new government jobs?
Indeed, the Lokpal will create new jobs but creating government cannot be a valid reason to have a Lokpal. Economic growth & prosperity is never created through government jobs. India needs policies of liberty that will create opportunities for millions to earn their livelihood.

d) Since the poor have to constantly interface with the state, won’t the Lokpal provide a check to corruption at lower level of bureaucracy?

Unless economic policies and the system of governance is changed, villagers in India will not be able to escape from chronic corruption (such as corrupt tahsildars and other land records staff). Villagers, being illiterate, do not have the capacity or resources to lodge (and pursue) complaints with the Lokpal.Villagers have not been able to utilise existing institutions like state vigilance bodies and police because of inability or fea. The Lokpal’s rules and procedures will preclude the possibility of justice for villagers. The corrupt will go scot free even if complaints are lodged against them, due to the sheer numbers involved.Far better to build systems that preclude corruption in the first place. Trying to fix the problem of corruption after it has established itself is a far more difficult (even impossible) task.

e) What is FTI’s view on the level of corruption that can a Lokpal can reduce?
The jury is out on this important question. However, for reasons given above, FTI believes that Lokpal will not reduce corruption, and will probably increase it and drive it underground.

f) How much will the Lokpal cost the taxpayer?
This will depend on the nature and design of the Lokpal. But it will not be cheap. Unfortunately, there will be almost no social gain from this institution. So taxpayers will spend money on the Lokpal, even as the corrupt officials and politicians ofIndia continue their loot.ConclusionAll Indians all angry with our corrupt politicians and bureaucrats. However, we should use our head, not our emotions.FTI agrees with and supports, in principle, IAC people’s movement against corruption. But FTI believes that (at this stage – i.e., without changing the policies of socialism, and ensuring that good people are able to contest elections) the Lokpal will make no difference to the lives of Indians, and could even make things worse in a number of ways.FTI therefore asks the Indian people to seek solutions that will actually work.The people of India have awakened due to the IAC movement. But it is important to understand that the solution does not lie in a Lokpal, but in a package of reforms that will essentially abolish socialism and make Indians free.FTI invites you to support the team to provide India with modern, effective governance.It is hard to remove the socialistic mindset of Indian politicians who think that voters want such policies. It is up to the educated class to show voters that demanding subsidies and handouts from politicians is not the right way to eliminate poverty. They voter must demand good governance, good education, not charity.The poor will become prosperous through freedom. On this journey, a social minimum (which includes high quality private school education for all children and a guaranteed top-up to eliminate poverty) will support those who falter on this journey towards freedom, integrity, and prosperity.In simple language, let’s drain the swamp so that mosquitoes don’t breed. It is not a sensible idea to kill the mosquitoes, one at a time.

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Would the much expected Jan Lok Pal Bill ever in near future come into existence !!!

 

[pawandahiya]

Biggest joke in history of Indian politics...lokpal credit goes to "pappu"!!!!

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Would the much expected Jan Lok Pal Bill ever in near future come into existence !!!

In place of Jan Lok Pal Bill, new Lok Pal Bill incorporating many recommendations of the earlier bill with added amendments has been passed by the Rajya Sabha and today it is likely to be passed by the Lok Sabha. Therefore, it is hoped it would become an act to control corruption at various stages of governance. Anna Hazare has expressed the hope that it would surely end 40 or 50 per cent corruption.

It is hoped that almost all parties that have well begin for paving way for its enactment would continue their efforts for its effective implementation.

 

[drrajpalsingh]

In place of Jan Lok Pal Bill, new Lok Pal Bill incorporating many recommendations of the earlier bill with added amendments has been passed by the Rajya Sabha and today it is likely to be passed by the Lok Sabha. Therefore, it is hoped it would become an act to control corruption at various stages of governance. Anna Hazare has expressed the hope that it would surely end 40 or 50 per cent corruption.

It is hoped that almost all parties that have well begin for paving way for its enactment would continue their efforts for its effective implementation.

Read more on the topic by logging in www.tribuneindia.com

Lokpal Bill gets RS nod; LS to consider it today

 

[rajpaldular]

• क्या लोकपाल से कश्मीर विवाद का हल हो जायेगा ? जवाब है नहीं।
• क्या लोकपाल से हमारे सैनिकों के कटे हुए सर वापस मिल जायेंगे ? जवाब है नहीं।
• क्या लोकपाल से पकिस्तान-चीन सुधर जायेंगे ? जवाब है नहीं।
• क्या लोकपाल से काला धन वापस देश में आ जायेगा ? जवाब है नहीं।
• क्या लोकपाल से भारत में आतंकी हमले रुक जायेंगे ? जवाब है नहीं।
• क्या लोकपाल से दंगे बंद हो जायेंगे, जिनमे कईं निर्दोष मारे जाते हैं ? जवाब है नहीं।
• क्या लोकपाल से लव जेहाद बंद हो जाएगा ? जवाब है नहीं।
• क्या लोकपाल से गरीब, दलित और आदिवासी हिन्दुओं का लालच देकर किया जा रहा धर्मान्तरण रुक जाएगा ? जवाब है नहीं।
• क्या लोकपाल से देश में हो रहे अन्धाधुन्द बलात्कार बंद हो जायेंगे ? जवाब है नहीं।
• क्या लोकपाल से भ्रष्टाचार ख़त्म हो जायेगा ??? जवाब है पूरी तरह नहीं।
• फिर देश में लोकपाल को लेकर इतनी बड़ी नौटंकी क्यूँ चल रही है...???
• क्या आपको नहीं लगता की ये लोकपाल की आड़ लेकर देश की इन मुख्य समस्याओं से देश के लोगो का ध्यान हटाने की साजिश चल रही है?

 

[prikshit]

Finally passed in Loksabha and is sent the President for his approval.

 

[rekhasmriti]

Kuch kaho .......credit toh abhi bhi AAP ko jana chhaiye ......na woh Delhi mei itni seats lete na hi Bill propose n pass hota .

Anshan par toh pehle bhi Anna ji baithe the

 

[pawandahiya]

Anshan par toh pehle bhi Anna ji baithe the

Kiran bedi had a call with chaturvedi when Anna sat on ansan. On 3rd or 4th day of ansan a delegate from rahul gandi met with Anna's representative secretly in Maharashtra (meeting arranged by prithiviraj). Aur fir pappu ne Anna ka gungan kiya aur Anna ne pappu ka.
Jab itna jhandu lokpal pass krwana tha to dilli me 15 din tayi loga ki Issi tissi kyu krwayi thi?

 

[drrajpalsingh]

• क्या लोकपाल से कश्मीर विवाद का हल हो जायेगा ? जवाब है नहीं।
• क्या लोकपाल से हमारे सैनिकों के कटे हुए सर वापस मिल जायेंगे ? जवाब है नहीं।
• क्या लोकपाल से पकिस्तान-चीन सुधर जायेंगे ? जवाब है नहीं।
• क्या लोकपाल से काला धन वापस देश में आ जायेगा ? जवाब है नहीं।
• क्या लोकपाल से भारत में आतंकी हमले रुक जायेंगे ? जवाब है नहीं।
• क्या लोकपाल से दंगे बंद हो जायेंगे, जिनमे कईं निर्दोष मारे जाते हैं ? जवाब है नहीं।
• क्या लोकपाल से लव जेहाद बंद हो जाएगा ? जवाब है नहीं।
• क्या लोकपाल से गरीब, दलित और आदिवासी हिन्दुओं का लालच देकर किया जा रहा धर्मान्तरण रुक जाएगा ? जवाब है नहीं।
• क्या लोकपाल से देश में हो रहे अन्धाधुन्द बलात्कार बंद हो जायेंगे ? जवाब है नहीं।
• क्या लोकपाल से भ्रष्टाचार ख़त्म हो जायेगा ??? जवाब है पूरी तरह नहीं।
• फिर देश में लोकपाल को लेकर इतनी बड़ी नौटंकी क्यूँ चल रही है...???
• क्या आपको नहीं लगता की ये लोकपाल की आड़ लेकर देश की इन मुख्य समस्याओं से देश के लोगो का ध्यान हटाने की साजिश चल रही है?

Friend,
Nation wide Demand to contain the vice of corruption has led to passage of this Bill and you also agree to it to the extent shown in your reply [bold line by me] above.

To deal with other issues, there are separate laws and it is hoped that the Lokpal Act will not impinge upon their implementation in any way.

Instead, would it not be better if someone could enlighten the readers about the provisions of the bill and how those could be taken advantage by the common citizens of India.

Thanks

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Kuch kaho .......credit toh abhi bhi AAP ko jana chhaiye ......na woh Delhi mei itni seats lete na hi Bill propose n pass hota .

Anshan par toh pehle bhi Anna ji baithe the

Credit for passage of the bill does not go to one person, party or group of people.

Rather, credit goes to enlightened public opinion and other allied objective conditions prevalent in the width and breadth of the country at this juncture. So it is the victory of Indian democracy and Indian people at large.