You mean secularism as practiced by political parties. The concept itself has nothing wrong in it per se, but I think the main grievances are with the way its practiced.
How Muslim Votes are going to effect 2014 Elections ?
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You mean secularism as practiced by political parties. The concept itself has nothing wrong in it per se, but I think the main grievances are with the way its practiced.
It actually is a myth. If you follow some muslim leaders like Siddique on political debates you will realise it is not so. If muslim votes were united why did UP never see any muslim CM, or a party that has muslim leadership?
Secular party SP ki sarkar mera khayal me UP me ae hai aur bhai tu bhi UP ka hi btaya?
It is your myth that Mulayam,Rahul are Hindus. Who knows we have a muslim CM or PM in past or future. Like YSR Reddy was Anglican christian & Ajit Jogi is too. Both use Hindu names in disguise. By the way if by names we go Azam Khan is deputy in UP who engineered riots & supported muslims openly. Ahmed Patel , close associate & advisor of Italian queen & is more powerful than a Sikh PM in disguise. Do not go by names & ceremonial posts.
PS: jo openly Hindu hit ki baat nahi kar sakta , I doubt if he/she is a Hindu or feel good about it.
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...apology-for-mistakes/articleshow/31009842.cms
Bhai ye opnly konse hit ki baat kar rahe hain Thakur sahab? Jara categorise karna ek baar Prikishit.
Wah bhai wah Samar jo chaat rahe din raat mullo ki us party ki or natao ki pairvi kare hai , unka jhanda buland kare hai ... ar jo mullo ki thooth peet ke sorry keh de vo ahit ho gaya. Isi BJP ke upar Congress or mulle chatukar ilzaam lagate hai ki ye mullo ki thooth peet dete hai... ye baat sabne pata hai....
If muslims are ready to live in harmony with respecting Hindusim & Hindus then we are not like Saudi or Pakistani. They can live.
Recent examples of Hindu hit & ahit.
1. When Sushil Shinde , another pet of Madam like your Jat leader of Haryana said saffron terrorism/Hindu terrorism. It was only & only BJP which condemned & asked apology.
2. When Shinde again I do not need to introduce said muslim youth implicated in false terrorist charges should be aquitted with fast trials. It was only & only BJP which opposed it.
3. Recent Kashmiri students case. Only BJP
4. Rahul , salla of small time farmer when told US diplomats that Hindu terrorism is bigger threat than Islam. It was BJP which opposed and salla went to hideouts.
5. When sardarji said muslims have first right on resources in India. It was BJP which opposed the statement tooth & nail , asked for apology.
6. Muzzafarnagar riots.
If you can rebut these I will give you more.
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There is no disagreement when you say that other appeases at its extreme level. With Hindu majority in country what prompted BJP top brass to do that at this time? Is it not going to discourage Hindus and its supporters when he does that.? We all know how Advani was taken down for Jinnah mazar.
Further is Rajnath not playing a long game in case NDA allies dont agree for Modi as its leader, then he can show himself secular and can become a choice in NDA?
This infact is proving the subject of this thread quite right. There is no need to rebut or further rebut for me. I am quite sure when I am quite sure.
Further is Rajnath not playing a long game in case NDA allies dont agree for Modi as its leader, then he can show himself secular and can become a choice in NDA?
This infact is proving the subject of this thread quite right. There is no need to rebut or further rebut for me. I am quite sure when I am quite sure.
Kaunsa Hindu ? The person having a Hindu name or the person who feels proud of being Hindu & will defend his religion above his caste or political gains? First Let us decide which Hindu are you talking. There is a species found in Hindus who are opportunist Hindus. They feel ashamed of being Hindus but claim to be one at times.
Do a vote that who is proud of being Hindu, I bet 100% of them will not get discouraged.
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The Voters I mean and you know that as well.
I do not think so. A real Hindu will never. A fake one is already not with BJP & he will not get discouraged rather He will try to discourage others.
Uniform civil code
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and a real hindu bowed down on the mazar of Jinnah and couple of days back offered an apology to Muslims for votes? You mean same real hindus?
Uniform civil code
***** me dum ho kisi Congressi neta ke jo baat kar le Uniform Civil Code ki. Jo kood rahe hai Hooda ke upar ki Jat neta hai , Usse kehwa de Uniform Civil code, 10 janpath pe bulage joote maregi mem. :applause:
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So now Hinuds need Hooda too. Lol..
That real Hindu who bowed down to mazar got infected by fake ones like in Congress and those who supporting Congress. His treatment for infection started soon & he is still taking treatment.
Regarding apology, I do not find it non Hindu. He did not say 2002 was a mistake. He said if there were any. We know very well about the history of BJP n which community it supported when. So it's only politics to bring allies not muslim voters.
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Politics of appeasement for pro-muslim parties and sidelining Modi expediently. However he is indicating babri demolition most likely.
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Just turn it. Hooda need Hindus.
Anyways, any say in UCC or you also can't utter.
Likewise, UCC but no Pseudo-Hinduist party.
I think you just anyhow want to put muslim appeasement in kitty of BJP because you are more concerned about leadership conspiracies theories in BJP rather its past and present about extending support to which communities at need. This is same like a kid in mud try to grab all other to make their clothes muddy.