Learn from Israel !!!!!!

[ambijat]

India and Indians historically has sympathy towards the Philistines. ......

भाई मेरे, छोटी सी गल्ती ये सै कि Philistine का मतलब होता है जिसके पास संस्कृति के नाम पर कुछ नहीं होता है । असल शब्द Palestine है, और वो कला और संस्कृति में खूब समृद्ध समाजों मे गिने जाते हैं ।
अब बात आपकी कि भारत के अरब देशों से संबंध - यहां थोड़ा रुकना चाहिए आखिर कार ना जाने कितने आतंकियों को हमने पकड़ा है साउदी गुप्चर संस्थाओं कि मदद से । और यदि इतने ही बुरे हालात होते तो हमारे सबसे ज्यादा कामगार उन देशों मे काम न कर रहे होते । तो ये जरुरी नहीं कि इजरायल से संबंध बने हैं तो अरब देशों को हमने अनदेखा किया है । ऐसा नहीं है भारत दोनो समाजों से बेहतर संबंध बनाने की नीति पर चल रहा है ।

 

[ambijat]

exactly. This is why Jury is always divided. Even judges get divided while writing any major verdict.

RK^2

Even for that matter no jury would admit to being subjective.....LoL....that is why conspicuous lady with a balance is blind-folded clearly defying subjecitivity.

Had if been the case there would have been no such thing as confessions.....anyway the point was about laws of ICC not the subjectivity of facts. When laws are violated there has to be clinching evidence. And, best way to avoid evidence is not be a signatory to ICC, and Israel isn't.

 

[virj]

भाई मेरे, छोटी सी गल्ती ये सै कि Philistine का मतलब होता है जिसके पास संस्कृति के नाम पर कुछ नहीं होता है । असल शब्द Palestine है, और वो कला और संस्कृति में खूब समृद्ध समाजों मे गिने जाते हैं ।
अब बात आपकी कि भारत के अरब देशों से संबंध - यहां थोड़ा रुकना चाहिए आखिर कार ना जाने कितने आतंकियों को हमने पकड़ा है साउदी गुप्चर संस्थाओं कि मदद से । और यदि इतने ही बुरे हालात होते तो हमारे सबसे ज्यादा कामगार उन देशों मे काम न कर रहे होते । तो ये जरुरी नहीं कि इजरायल से संबंध बने हैं तो अरब देशों को हमने अनदेखा किया है । ऐसा नहीं है भारत दोनो समाजों से बेहतर संबंध बनाने की नीति पर चल रहा है ।

OK agree on spelling mistake.. I have fixed that in my post.

Rest I am not sure what are you trying to say..

 

[ambijat]

agodara writes:

kaun se hai jara hame bhi gyan digiyega.we all wants to get rid of pakk and nebourig countries

इतनी भी नफरत मत करो भाई सराइकी जो कि गंगानगर से सटता हुआ पाकिस्तान का प्रांत है वहां गोदाराओं के गांव के गांव हैं जिन्होने इस्लाम अपना रखा है । सबको खत्म करोगे । ...हाहाहाहा

 

[prashantacmet]

It only begs a smile!

Human history told with such frugality as some National Geographic channel showing the life of predators (wolves) and the prey ( supposedly us).

I must tell you religion during the age of empires and religion during the present era of nations/states have different connotations. But, religions have never been ascribed for human misery, just see aren't women getting raped today, aren't the old and children getting butchered while sleeping in their homes, aren't material possession getting looted today. So, where is the religious angle to all this. It is the elite's desire for power which uses religion as an instrument for its goals. After all, even conversion did not guarantee the dignity of human life. Had it been so, then there would not have been acute backwardness in Muslim population of South Asia.

And, the tyranny of the marauders during war time must be differentiated from the state policy during peaceful times. Muslims rulers nowhere preached violence against the subjects as a state policy. In fact, if you go by history then all those atrocities you have mentioned have been more on the western side of our present border extending upto Iraq. Muslim population have suffered more at the hands of Muslim rulers in the West Asia. Many Mughals gave money for repairs of Hindu temples too, eg. the one in Mathura, Krishna temple... So, we can leave this polarised view for now.

And, so far as rise and fall of nations is concerned. Yes, human history is replete with wars that happened in South Asia long before the advent of Muslims, how to deny those?

Sir ji, your knowledge has gone over your head now and you have started talking totally sh** ( sorry for this word but only it seems the perfect choice here!) here. It seems that you are here just to win the argument at any cost by showing your English proficiency or your knowledge of history. You are playing with words and twisting the things quite easily.

Right from Muhammed , Islam was spread with sword and it was destined to do so as per Islam teachings. So saying that "religion has nothing to do with human misery" is factually incorrect. I guess you missed this part in your Phd. Please get your facts right

It is a pity that you compare the massacre of lacs with some random crimes which can happen in any country. Likes of Taimur , abdali and gajnavi butchered lacs of innocent people in couple of days and you compare that act of what? you don't say a word about the taxes, forced conversions and atrocities done by muslims rulers .your heart cries for palestines but you even come to the point of defending the killers of your own countrymen with your ill-logic. It shows your sheer lunacy, biasedness and emptiness of mind. You forget of forced conversion and atrocities done by Aurangzeb and jahangir but applaud Mughals for their charity.
leave apart past centuries, If your Islam is so peaceful why the forced conversions are being done even today. did you hear the incident of forced conversion by hindus?

you should live alone in an Arabian desert with peace of Islam.

I don't have any problem with muslims..good and bad people can be everywhere..I have problem with Islam which has such dark chapters that make a man a devil at the name of religion.

As far as jews are concerned they are most intelligent but most cunning people on earth. But In the times of history they have paid a lot too

 

[prikshit]

Sickulars here have learnt from one party, what's harm if we learn and act like israel? Galat karne wale ko uski bhasa me jawab dena kabse galat ho gya?

 

[amankadian]

agodara writes:


इतनी भी नफरत मत करो भाई सराइकी जो कि गंगानगर से सटता हुआ पाकिस्तान का प्रांत है वहां गोदाराओं के गांव के गांव हैं जिन्होने इस्लाम अपना रखा है । सबको खत्म करोगे । ...हाहाहाहा

So many people try to show up that they're true Hindu and Hindu Supporter.

Just following temple and Ram's not a Hinduism

1. Hindu regional teach lesson of Love
2. If someone try to hurt your family, your people. You must take stand against them.
3. In Hinduism there is no rules. It only teach you to being a good human. You have freedom to live your life.
4. Its 1st Regional which say respect other regionals and be peaceful. because all human are same.
5. Justice
6. Forgiveness

I have meet so Christen people who felt in love with Indian-Culture and Regional. Christen also believe in Humanity. Humanity or Hinduism both are same.

Anyway My main point is that. There is nothing great about Israel and Because there too many good things in Hinduism we need to learn.

Now Pakistani hurting our people...We must take stand against it. Family protection is 1st rules , Ismain Isreal se kya shikna.

I am just want to know what we should learn from Israel man. Learn our history and regional, it so wonderful, honest and rich


Rkumar ji talked about Indian war style. When we look at our history. India always fought against evil.



I think world should learn for our regions and nation

 

[ambijat]

Sir ji, your knowledge has gone over your head now and you have started talking totally sh** ( sorry for this word but only it seems the perfect choice here!) here. It seems that you are here just to win the argument at any cost by showing your English proficiency or your knowledge of history. You are playing with words and twisting the things quite easily.

Right from Muhammed , Islam was spread with sword and it was destined to do so as per Islam teachings. So saying that "religion has nothing to do with human misery" is factually incorrect. I guess you missed this part in your Phd. Please get your facts right

It is a pity that you compare the massacre of lacs with some random crimes which can happen in any country. Likes of Taimur , abdali and gajnavi butchered lacs of innocent people in couple of days and you compare that act of what? you don't say a word about the taxes, forced conversions and atrocities done by muslims rulers .your heart cries for palestines but you even come to the point of defending the killers of your own countrymen with your ill-logic. It shows your sheer lunacy, biasedness and emptiness of mind. You forget of forced conversion and atrocities done by Aurangzeb and jahangir but applaud Mughals for their charity.
leave apart past centuries, If your Islam is so peaceful why the forced conversions are being done even today. did you hear the incident of forced conversion by hindus?

you should live alone in an Arabian desert with peace of Islam.

I don't have any problem with muslims..good and bad people can be everywhere..I have problem with Islam which has such dark chapters that make a man a devil at the name of religion.

As far as jews are concerned they are most intelligent but most cunning people on earth. But In the times of history they have paid a lot too

यदि आपको अंग्रेजी भाषा समझ नहीं आती है तो जाहिर है मेरे तर्क तो दूरदूर तक समझ नहीं आते होंगे । तो मैं क्या बोलता हूं या मैं क्या लिखता हूं उससे आपको सरोकार नहीं हो सकता तभी आप अपने मन के स्वाद को तारांकित भाषा में (**) इशारा कर लिख रहे हैं ।

 

[rkumar]

...what a steam off this rotten mind............. ............

You find his mind rotten... but I don't. He has just expressed his anguish in plain and simple language. Have tolerance to bear it. He has addressed you as "Sir Ji" I can find any word in his post which is offensive to upset you to this extent.

RK^2

PS: looks like AmbiJat has edited the post # 308 and taken his comments back which he posted in response to prashantacmet..

RK^2

 

[rkumar]

सर जी आयु कि महत्ता होती है ..... एक तो हथियार ढंग से नहीं उठता है दूसरे जुबान भी लड़खड़ा जाती है ।......................

This is the way you look at it. I look differently. A true warrior does not enter into battlefield to hide behind his age. At his age "Bhsm Pita mah was ftter than his grand sons. Same was true of many other warriors like Drona, Verma etc. Anyway.. you are fully entitled to you views..

cheers
RK^2

 

[ambijat]

You find his mind rotten... but I don't. He has just expressed his anguish in plain and simple language. Have tolerance to bear it. He has addressed you as "Sir Ji" I can find any word in his post which is offensive to upset you to this extent.

RK^2

PS: looks like AmbiJat has edited the post and taken his comments back...

RK^2

Dear Sir, these are some nice words this gentleman prashantamet showered on this portal. I hope you must be enamoured with his bright mind. And, I send my accolades to you if the words used by him are inspired by you.

you have started talking totally sh**

 

[rkumar]

...यदि आपको अंग्रेजी भाषा समझ नहीं आती है तो जाहिर है मेरे तर्क तो दूरदूर तक समझ नहीं आते होंगे । ............।

Smells arrogance... Sorry...

RK^2

 

[ambijat]

This is the way you look at it. I look differently. A true warrior does not enter into battlefield to hide behind his age. At his age "Bhsm Pita mah was ftter than his grand sons. Same was true of many other warriors like Drona, Verma etc. Anyway.. you are fully entitled to you views..

cheers
RK^2

आप शायद ठीक कह रहे हैं यहां तो नौजवानो की जुबान लड़खड़ा रही है शब्दों का प्रयोग और मर्यादित लेखन के लिए उम्र का तजुर्बा होना शायद बेहतर है ।

 

[ambijat]

Smells arrogance... Sorry...

RK^2

I expect something better..... anyway this discussion is crossing limits as you and your kind are getting personal...which I guess you have no right to do so.

 

[rkumar]

Dear Sir, these are some nice words this gentleman prashantamet showered on this portal. I hope you must be enamoured with his bright mind. And, I send my accolades to you if the words used by him are inspired you.

My dear friend, this word is routinely used in discussions and to be very honest with you, I find nothing offensive about it. people have even called me old bald man on this forum. I just smiled.. I have feacded highly heated debates on Jatland ... There is a famous Doha.." Shama badan ko chaiye, chotan ko utpaat" loosing cool in debates does not serve the main purpose. Win you opponents through your logics. If you can't win, leave them with their opinion with respect. I too don't agree with your interpretations. However, I respect them and have no problem.. Take it easy..

cheers
RK^2

 

[amankadian]

Ladai na karo bahiyo.

jinko isreal passand wo waha maje kare

jisko gaza wo waha jaye


hindustan ki garmia ko samjhe wale yaha rhe jaye

 

[ambijat]

You find his mind rotten... but I don't. He has just expressed his anguish in plain and simple language. Have tolerance to bear it. He has addressed you as "Sir Ji" I can find any word in his post which is offensive to upset you to this extent.

RK^2

PS: looks like AmbiJat has edited the post # 308 and taken his comments back which he posted in response to prashantacmet..

RK^2

Personal diatribe is no purpose of this disucssion. You are encouraging them to write all that. What a pity.

 

[ambijat]

........loosing cool in debates does not serve the main purpose...........
RK^2

You are calling me, I think I have been the most dignified in all my posts and I am proud of it.

 

[rkumar]

Personal diatribe is no purpose of this disucssion. You are encouraging them to write all that. What a pity.

I am really sorry if you think so..

RK^2

 

[ambijat]

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PS: looks like AmbiJat has edited the post # 308 and taken his comments back which he posted in response to prashantacmet..

RK^2

Only later I realised that this gentlemen had some problem with my writing the post in English...इसलिए उसे मिटा कर हिंदी मे लिखा .......... LOL