Sorry can't really figure out what you mean to say....
Learn from Israel !!!!!!
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Sorry can't really figure out what you mean to say....
How do I differ.... I posted a number of links giving the evidence that how Israelis are turning up in thousands against this massive murderous assault.
It only begs a smile!
Human history told with such frugality as some National Geographic channel showing the life of predators (wolves) and the prey ( supposedly us).
I must tell you religion during the age of empires and religion during the present era of nations/states have different connotations. But, religions have never been ascribed for human misery, just see aren't women getting raped today, aren't the old and children getting butchered while sleeping in their homes, aren't material possession getting looted today. So, where is the religious angle to all this. It is the elite's desire for power which uses religion as an instrument for its goals. After all, even conversion did not guarantee the dignity of human life. Had it been so, then there would not have been acute backwardness in Muslim population of South Asia.
And, the tyranny of the marauders during war time must be differentiated from the state policy during peaceful times. Muslims rulers nowhere preached violence against the subjects as a state policy. In fact, if you go by history then all those atrocities you have mentioned have been more on the western side of our present border extending upto Iraq. Muslim population have suffered more at the hands of Muslim rulers in the West Asia. Many Mughals gave money for repairs of Hindu temples too, eg. the one in Mathura, Krishna temple... So, we can leave this polarised view for now.
And, so far as rise and fall of nations is concerned. Yes, human history is replete with wars that happened in South Asia long before the advent of Muslims, how to deny those?
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मोदी जी ! पाकिस्तान को काश्मीर सीमा पर कैसे पटखनी देनी है, इसके लिए आपको इजराइल से हाथ मिलाना पड़ेगा। इजराइल के पास ऐसे-ऐसे आधुनिक हथियार हैं कि पाकिस्तान कैसे दुम दबाकर भागता है एवँ इधर कभी मुड़कर भी नहीं देखेगा।
So, one of final truths emerging out...Israel and US both are not the members of International Criminal Court that stands for investigation into war crimes. Obviously, they know their acts would be brought to justice. Interestingly, HAMAS has supported the Palestine Authority bid to sign for the membership of ICC that would allow international war crimes tribunal to visit Gaza and make a case for the parties on both the sides. But, HAMAS acceding to it is a good move.
more on this here....http://indianexpress.com/article/wo...chief-backs-international-criminal-court-bid/
more on this here....http://indianexpress.com/article/wo...chief-backs-international-criminal-court-bid/
You claim to be objective and not taking sides. Why don't you educate members as to why Israel has not joined the membership of ICC. What are reasons Israel is giving ? Do you know that terrorism is not a crime in ICC charter ?
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I don't know what you mean by stating that terrorism is not crime in ICC charter. Are you suggesting Israel is free to perpetrate as much terror it wishes.
Israel did not join not because terrorism is not part of Rome statute but because of the following articles, which make Israel guilty of war-crimes.
What else could be exhaustive definition of terrorism. This is the reason why Israel is not a party, not to deny the acts of HAMAS, but they have agreed to it.
Also,
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That is your interpretation and not necessarily of a sizable population having the contrary view. If Hamas thinks Israel is committing war crimes, why don't they go to ICC ? Every country has reasons of not signing international treaties. India also has not signed NPT as she thinks its discriminatory. Israel must be having similar views. Who are you and me to decide what their interests are. It has become a fashion to give unsolicited lectures to Israel. Anyway...this is an unending debate, more so when have consolidated our respective opinions.
RK^2
This is not to say that International Crime Court is some holy institution that can help restore some justice to the Palestinians. In fact the following article will expose how unjust the trial of Yugoslave President Milosevic was and by the same standards Israeli PM Sharon got unscathed.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2002/05/isra-m02.html
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2002/05/isra-m02.html
If one thing that I am not doing here is the interpretation. I produce evidences to prove what I have to say...I don't pronounce judgements I produce facts as hard as diamonds to put the case.
On the contrary, see what you do....
Do you have any statistic to support this?
Don't club me with you here Sir. I have my credentials.
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Every judgment ever given in any court of law in whole human history left one side dissatisfied and this is why people go to higher and higher courts. There is no verdict ever given which is acceptable to all.
RK^2
Your evidence does not necessarily mean other side's evidence. Evidence is always subjective.
RK^2
Here you go... raising the umbrella of your credentials.. May I request if you have a degree in international law or what that I should accept your credentials on the subject? Sorry if it hurts.. I don't claim any such competence by the way.. I am just behaving like a common man who is often invited as jury in the courts in many countries.
RK^2
Hahah.... I would prefer to respect the fact that you are a senior citizen....I am just a 'teacher'.
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To be honest with you, I am a great follower of Bhism Pita Mah. Vaad vivad aur yudh me age ki koi importance nahi hoti. On a lighter note can I ask you if you are a communist or teaching in an institution dominated by communist ideology ? I somehow think so.
RK^2
exactly. This is why Jury is always divided. Even judges get divided while writing any major verdict.
RK^2
मोदी जी ! पाकिस्तान को काश्मीर सीमा पर कैसे पटखनी देनी है, इसके लिए आपको इजराइल से हाथ मिलाना पड़ेगा। इजराइल के पास ऐसे-ऐसे आधुनिक हथियार हैं कि पाकिस्तान कैसे दुम दबाकर भागता है एवँ इधर कभी मुड़कर भी नहीं देखेगा।[/QUOTE
kaun se hai jara hame bhi gyan digiyega.we all wants to get rid of pakk and nebourig countries
India and Indians historically has sympathy towards the Palestine. However in recent years Indians never got any support from Arab world and India had no option but to develop relation Israel. India cannot openly go against either of them because Arab will never support India against Pakistan however India need them to be at least neutral in some disputes.
India cannot even openly support Israel because it fears that might jeopardise its relation with Iran with whom it always had good relations and it can check on Pak western border from there as well.
In any case historically it is a problem created by Western World. They created boundaries in Asia and Africa based on lakes, rivers and mountains whereas nations are based on common culture, language or a common goal.
India cannot even openly support Israel because it fears that might jeopardise its relation with Iran with whom it always had good relations and it can check on Pak western border from there as well.
In any case historically it is a problem created by Western World. They created boundaries in Asia and Africa based on lakes, rivers and mountains whereas nations are based on common culture, language or a common goal.
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सर जी आयु कि महत्ता होती है ..... एक तो हथियार ढंग से नहीं उठता है दूसरे जुबान भी लड़खड़ा जाती है ।
Who am I...hmmmm.....it would take time to explore......
I think....I also mentioned earlier also...and even now....communism is one of the strong ideological cornerstones of Jewish history.....even Karl Marx, and USSR Permier Primakov were Jew. And, Many Soviet Jews took prominent position in Israeli cabinet. Libermann, a Moldovian (Moldova was part of USSR) Jew was Foreign Minister of Israel.
So, I am a petty small thing before those tall orders of communism ordained by Jews.....LoL
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