What are your concluding remarks after going through all this ?
RK^2
A) Winning the state was the only goal for BJP
B) There is nothing called Morality when it comes to winning elections for BJP
C) It is easier to fool Haryana population(not just Jats) by outsiders than others may think
My point wise rebuttal;
1. What is wrong with that ? Every party enters the election arena with same goal.
2. Do other parties or even individual politicians follow the so called moral code ? If copy of the so called moral code is available, please post it.
3. Calling people fools just because results are not to your liking is no justification. People are smart and have made smart choice. If BJP does not deliver, rest assured the same fools will kick them out. People won't spare even Modi.
RK^2
Many Jat brethren from other states would never understand that Haryanvi Jats will not welcome any Non Jat CM. They take it lightly because they have been habitual of being ruled by a non-jat because of many reasons. Hence they tend to rationalise it with whatsoever self-esteem (or lack of it ?) they got out of the years of ruling by non jats. So on this point at least they must not impose their Martian and Noble prize winning ideas on Haryanvi jats. If it hurts you, it shall be,so be it. If this refugee becomes the CM of the Jatland, I am sure there would be cascade of anarchy to the dismay of Shah And Modi.
Instead of criticizing your brothers, why don't you do something about it?
Let all the brothers on Jatland see what you do to stop a Non-Jat as CM.
I guess, he and many others did try to stop this by not voting for a party that is known for being anti-jat when others were questioning them for doing so and calling such folks traitors of country.
I am sure you are not from Haryana. Further even BJP and its leaders knows what they said about Jat reservation. You certainly have a misconception about BJP not in power in Haryana. They were an ally of INLD. Same BJP broke that alliance in past general elections with INLD. Yes it WOULD be a suicide if a non jat become a CM backed by present BJP. Mentality must be of pro-jats, 90s,80s etc doesnt matter. If Chaudhar is not of Jats then consider it as an anti-jat agenda sooner or later. Graduate yourself in those terms if you are not a kaccha dhari.
Instead of criticizing your brothers, why don't you do something about it?
Let all the brothers on Jatland see what you do to stop a Non-Jat as CM.
What Jat chaudhar are you talking about? A remote controlled CM cannot and can never be a chaudhary.
A person who treats Haryana as his personal Jagir and then goes and bows before gora Madam from Italy at her personal darbar cannot be a chaudhary!!
Wake up or redefine the definition of chaudhar and chaudhary
We are in agreement on first 2 points(edited my post too but it seems you had replied by then), but let me differ on the third one.
I did not call others fool(they are smart in their own right) because results are not as per my liking, but because the reasons they voted for are not clear and here is a look at main points:
Development: BJP promised development but their claim was hollow as Haryana is already #1 in a lot of areas. Modi's speeches were proven wrong on multiple occasions - including the one on per capita income. If people still voted for those who never understood their state, what would you call them?
Non-congress, INLD Agenda: 17 tickets were given to outsiders from other parties- if people had to be anti those parties why would they vote for these people. E.g. Virender Singh's wife?
Non jat agenda: BJP has a history of being anti-jat, they clearly said Capt Abhimanyu might not be the CM and still Jats voted for them- what would you call them then?
Pro Haryana Agenda: Most of the BJP cadre, including poll agents were outsiders. People chose a party which does not even have a base in the state.
Corruption: What happened to Vadra whose issue, if at all were true affected Haryana the most. Modi has not delivered on any of his promises including black money or Vadra or DLF, and if people still believed that what would you call them?
Again, I am not calling them fools but failing to understand why would such a smart voting population choose BJP when nothing they stood for in elections was either pro-Haryana, or close to being truth or even pro-jat.
Well Abhik, ..You probably haven't witnessed what it means to be chaudhar where ever from are you. Instead of questioning the BJP's stance, you are here blabbering ( and probably very happy) here like a non-jat would do. Someone here said that instead of more of Jat Lover you are anti-congress. As I stated in my OP about low self esteem,you just proved it. Your thought process, vision starts and ends with Anti-congress. So Yahan faaltu gyan na baante, yahan sab gyani hai.
Bhai Vikas, Just explain me one thing, one seat, and I will explain all of yours.
Why did Rohtak seat went to BJP?
Well, then brother, I suggest you keep some calm on Haryana politics.That exactly is my question too and infact the supreme example of my questions in the quoted post, share if you have an answer.
Samar, the only thing I am asking is will this criticism really help. 80 percent Jats voted against BJP. Still it came to power with majority and is now forming a govt. with a non-jat CM.
If criticizing it makes one a Jat-lover I would criticize it. I all along wanted Capt. Abhimanyu to be the CM. But then logic clearly shows that 7 Jat MLAs out of 47 cannot demand a Jat CM. You vote for Cong and INLD and ask for a Jat CM from BJP. This will not make sense to any rational person.
Let's as a community look towards the future interests of Jats instead of wasting time on what has already happened because it is not in your or anyone else's power to change that for the next five years.
Let's stop whining like a school kid and show some maturity by accepting the ground realities.
Totally in sync with Ranaji view, it was clear that BJP has upper hand and we Jats let Capt down.
Its time for introspection.
Hooda has good oppurtunity to emerge as Jat leader but instead he prefer to be only i good books of madam. Had hooda spent some money on development in other distt. this wont be his fate. Instead he tried to marginalize other leaders by not letting development work in other distt.
We are calling the name of Jat leader like Sir Chottu Ram and ch. Devilal. But we fail to recognise they were not the jat leaders. Chhotu Ram was leader of AJGAR(Ahir, Jat Gujjar, Aranhi and Rangar) communities. Same way Tau was leader of peasant(Jat, Ahir and Gujjar) class.
Any good leader will forsee this and make an alliance with other community, standing alone will fetch nothing all this Jat pride and Chaudhar will remain garam hawa.
Calling names and insulting other members by few keyboard warriors will yield nothing but divide society further.
Bhai Vikas, Just explain me one thing, one seat, and I will explain all of yours.
Why did Rohtak seat went to BJP?
I am not sure what interest you are talking Abhik Bhai and I asked that in my previous posts from you? What would a Refugee Jangi understand about social fabric of Haryana? Instead of questioning the social acumen of your beloved party you are blaming everything on Congress?
Let me tell you simple logic about 5 year myth, South Haryana Ahirwal wont let this refugee be a CM no matter what Modi or Shah had in Mind while doing it. Further the level of anarchy is impending against newly elected govt and you would understand then ignoring ground truth would cost BJP in long term. What made a Punjabi refugee CM? You think number of Punjabi MLAs? What is the rationale behind? Let us all understand that.? South Haryana gave maximum MLAs then why this refugee was ''nominated''. He wasnt elected by MLAs rather forced by Modi and Shah. Thats the rationale.
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