Aarakshan ko dilli gherenge Jat

prashantacmet said:
Piyush, Is yashpal malik now assured of MP ticket in next election from RLD? I have heard this was the sole purpose of this protest. What a way to be political from a non-poltical stand!!
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Arrey ye kya itna bada jaat neta eb bihariyan ki ticket pe ladega, koye jaat party nahi aagey aayii k ??????? like ajit singh & party, Chautala & sons etc..............
 
Is / Was there any big strong-facet leader calling YES for RESERVATION ?

NO.

It shows the significance of the matter.[Full Stop]
 
prashantacmet said:
Bhai mere..........RLD-> Rashtriya lok dal led by ajit singh........RJD is led by Lalu not RLD
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Oh ho confusion hogi bhai
mera Ganit kamjor se mada sa........................

chalo thik jagah gaya se fer te.
Aur kisey ne miley na miley yashpal malik ne te milgi reservation jaat party me ............
 
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Yespal Malik organised a big rally on Jat Reservation at Meerut on 8 Feb 2009 just before the General Elections 2009. He had the opportunity to take any ticket whatsoever but the man neither sold the Jats nor was himself sold to any political party. If he had any intention of ticket he would not organise the rally four years before the next Elections 2014. The man it seems has made Jat community service the sole aim of his life and seems to be quite gutsy who had the gumption to take on a March to Sonia, the seat of power in India.
 
prashantacmet said:
Piyush, Is yashpal malik now assured of MP ticket in next election from RLD? I have heard this was the sole purpose of this protest. What a way to be political from a non-poltical stand!!
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Yespal Malik organised a big rally on Jat Reservation at Meerut on 8 Feb 2009 just before the General Elections 2009. He had the opportunity to take any ticket whatsoever but the man neither sold the Jats nor was himself sold to any political party. If he had any intention of ticket he would not organise the rally four years before the next Elections 2014. The man it seems has made Jat community service the sole aim of his life and seems to be quite gutsy who had the gumption to take on a March to Sonia, the seat of power in India.
 
rohan94 said:
Yespal Malik organised a big rally on Jat Reservation at Meerut on 8 Feb 2009 just before the General Elections 2009. He had the opportunity to take any ticket whatsoever but the man neither sold the Jats nor was himself sold to any political party. If he had any intention of ticket he would not organise the rally four years before the next Elections 2014. The man it seems has made Jat community service the sole aim of his life and seems to be quite gutsy who had the gumption to take on a March to Sonia, the seat of power in India.
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Yashpal (not yespal)

Usko bata dena ki agar vo sachhe mann se Jat / Jaat ka bhala karna chahta hai toh:

1. Agriculture zameen ka acquire rokne ka LAW banwaye.
2. Agriculture produce ko open market main laye...not via GOVT.
No control of govt. No price fixation by govt for any produce or any input.

Isse sirf 2% jat ka bhala nahin 100 % Jat ka bhala ho ja ga.

Baki loga ne bhi open market hone se fayda hi hoga.....khaskar mazdoor ko aur kaam milega..khaas kar jo padh nahin paya.
 
Bhai ojus, I agree with your last 2 points but not the first one. Kisaan apni zameen khud bechta hai kyunki usse lagata hai ki bahut paise mil rahe hain. uski zameen hai woh usse beche ya nahi yeh uska pura hak hai. Take the example of Singur in WB. Tata has to step back because a large no of people there did not want to sell their zameen. Even in NCR if majority decides not to sell I dont think it will be easy for govt to acquire the land. Balki log intezaar kare jaa ki kab unki zameen bhi sarkar acquire kar le or woh raaton raat crorepati ban jaye.

Ojus said:
Yashpal (not yespal)

Usko bata dena ki agar vo sachhe mann se Jat / Jaat ka bhala karna chahta hai toh:

1. Agriculture zameen ka acquire rokne ka LAW banwaye.
2. Agriculture produce ko open market main laye...not via GOVT.
No control of govt. No price fixation by govt for any produce or any input.

Isse sirf 2% jat ka bhala nahin 100 % Jat ka bhala ho ja ga.

Baki loga ne bhi open market hone se fayda hi hoga.....khaskar mazdoor ko aur kaam milega..khaas kar jo padh nahin paya.
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prashantacmet said:
Piyush, Is yashpal malik now assured of MP ticket in next election from RLD? I have heard this was the sole purpose of this protest. What a way to be political from a non-poltical stand
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The way he is going he can give MP and MLA tickets to these political leaders rather than seeking one for himself and precisely this is the reason why Some of these so called LEADERS have activated this Gossip and Rumor machinery. Such rumors were spread just few days before Delhi Rally you might have heard these very late.On RamLila Grounds He was the one Who reminded people to be aware of such leaders who speak for their interest in pubic meeting and negotiate for political or monetary favors behind close doors.

I can remember a meeting with the Central Minister for Social Justice (after Ramlila ground Rally) who wanted to meet him personally ,Yashpal told him I don't belive in one to one meeting either you meet fifteen of us or there is no meeting . Minister had to ask for additional chairs to accommodate other people .

Any way I strongly believe Such leaders who have such impeccable integrity should come in politics and only than you can replace leaders who are just traders rather one fighting for their rights.
 
Bhai

Appke saree sawala ke jawab to mere dhoree se konya...baki I will try my best.

Let me give you an example of haryana biggest (30-35)%age of population. Total %age of general population in haryana approx. 65%. let's say no of jobs are 100 Since 49% seats are reserved 65% of population has to fight for 51 seats. you can now calculate the deficit in simple maths.

if Jats get this reservation I believe 10-15% of Jats family earns more than Rs250000/- so only 15-20% will get the benefit of OBC reservation then it will be an equal oppurtunity for fight since 50% of population will be fighting for 50 seats and rest on 50.

I hope this will answer your base and relevant question.

And about reservation in private sector It's not in just India you can ask this question to anyone working in most developed countries (specially USA and UK) reservation is there and I don't feel bad in it if you ask them to follow voluntarily.

Thanks


rajkphogat said:
Maan sahab badia hai.....................

Par uskey upar bhi kuch likha tha uska jawab kya hai ??????????

Infosys & HCL bhai viswaas nahi hota eb tu keh se to bera paadta hu, er creamy layer kaisey tooti hai sabko pata hai.

I m not opposing or favouring OBC for jats but what i want to know is that, Is this is the only diff. of 3-4 marks between OBC & General category cutoff, to dilli gherney ki kya jarurat hai 2 bhinney kitaab khol lyo paper k sab kuch paat jaga.

When a Jaat girl can do it then what happen to Jaat boys.
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Ojus said:
Is / Was there any big strong-facet leader calling YES for RESERVATION ?

NO.

It shows the significance of the matter.[Full Stop]
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What is this Strong Facet...

Do you mean leaders like Choudhary Ajit Singh ,CM Bupender Hooda ,Ajay Choutala ,Kiran Choudhary etc etc.... ..

So for Your information they all have come for our fight and praised our efforts in this regard (can check their stand in person).They are trying on their own level and that need not be made open to everyone .

So I hope you know the significance of Matter now
 
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Ojus said:
Yashpal (not yespal)

Usko bata dena ki agar vo sachhe mann se Jat / Jaat ka bhala karna chahta hai toh:

1. Agriculture zameen ka acquire rokne ka LAW banwaye.
2. Agriculture produce ko open market main laye...not via GOVT.
No control of govt. No price fixation by govt for any produce or any input.

Isse sirf 2% jat ka bhala nahin 100 % Jat ka bhala ho ja ga.

Baki loga ne bhi open market hone se fayda hi hoga.....khaskar mazdoor ko aur kaam milega..khaas kar jo padh nahin paya.
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Your ideas are good but chances of that happening are nearly zero.
 
rajkphogat said:
Now talk abut real job data:

Recently around one month back DSSSB has declared TGT results

Post code- 27 ya 28
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Raj, could you please provide the link to this result ... I tried but could obtain only past results from their site and that too doesn't contain the cutoffs, numbers scored etc ....
 
mann123 said:
Bhai

Appke saree sawala ke jawab to mere dhoree se konya...baki I will try my best.

Let me give you an example of haryana biggest (30-35)%age of population. Total %age of general population in haryana approx. 65%. let's say no of jobs are 100 Since 49% seats are reserved 65% of population has to fight for 51 seats. you can now calculate the deficit in simple maths.

Bhai ji Reservation policy India as whole ki population ko dhyan me rakhkar banayi gayi hai not specific for Haryana & you can't say tha haryana people only can get job in haryana

if Jats get this reservation I believe 10-15% of Jats family earns more than Rs250000/- so only 15-20% will get the benefit of OBC reservation then it will be an equal oppurtunity for fight since 50% of population will be fighting for 50 seats and rest on 50.

Ek affidevit dena padta hai creamy layer ka, creamy layer kaisey tut ti hai & now this limit is also going to inc to 5 lacs

I hope this will answer your base and relevant question.- No I doubt

And about reservation in private sector It's not in just India you can ask this question to anyone working in most developed countries (specially USA and UK) reservation is there and I don't feel bad in it if you ask them to follow voluntarily.

Thanks
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Bhai i m not against Jaat OBC reservation (though i m not favouring it also govt bolti hai sab barabr hain koi ooncha ya nicha nahi fir khud govt hi racism failati hai) but my basic ques is:

As shown in my previous post if the diff between GEN & OBC candidate cutoff is only 1.5% to 3% to baalkan ne pagal kyoo bana rey se ye leader nu kyoo na kahwtey ek gharney baith ki pado kyoo hadey dhakkey khaao so.

& if someone is having anti reservation thoughts how he can become Jaichand & if he is jaichand then why we appreciate these jaichands(bow heads against them) in this thread.

Yaar yo yashpaal malik moda se k jo bina faydey k logan ki bhalai karta handey se & what is his source of Income?????? meri geography madi kamjor se kisey ne bera ho te bataiyo-
par thik se je jattan ka OBC ban ja er yashpal malik ne ticket milja donu win-win situation me, like bhainsala..............
 
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jitendershooda said:
Raj, could you please provide the link to this result ... I tried but could obtain only past results from their site and that too doesn't contain the cutoffs, numbers scored etc ....
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Hooda ji ye lo

http://dsssb.delhigovt.nic.in/POST028.pdf

Topper is shushila mahlan Dilli ka got se jaatan ka OBC me aawe se still she applied in GEN catagory & topped er hadey chhorey bawley horey se OBC k chakkar me

http://dsssb.delhigovt.nic.in/POST034.pdf

Ek aur link dekhlo
http://dsssb.delhigovt.nic.in/RESULT%20NOTICELIBRARIAN.pdf

ismey bhi OBC ne top kiya hai

purana data koni kati naya se main te nu dekhna chaahoon tha ek OBC GEN te kitney nichey tai jaa se, par ghana farak koni, sirf baalkan ne bhalowan ki baat se.

teacher jobs one of the favorite job option in jaat youth
 
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rajkphogat said:
Hooda ji ye lo

http://dsssb.delhigovt.nic.in/POST028.pdf

Topper is shushila mahlan Dilli ka got se jaatan ka OBC me aawe se still she applied in GEN catagory & topped er hadey chhorey bawley horey se OBC k chakkar me

http://dsssb.delhigovt.nic.in/POST034.pdf

Ek aur link dekhlo
http://dsssb.delhigovt.nic.in/RESULT%20NOTICELIBRARIAN.pdf

ismey bhi OBC ne top kiya hai

purana data koni kati naya se main te nu dekhna chaahoon tha ek OBC GEN te kitney nichey tai jaa se, par ghana farak koni, sirf baalkan ne bhalowan ki baat se.

teacher jobs one of the favorite job option in jaat youth
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Thanks brother.

I look at the data provided by you differently.

I agree that there is not much difference between the cutoffs of OBC and GEN. This is the only thing I have proved to Kapil in my earlier posts taking Rohtak PMT results in hand.

Also I again mention that if we will include Jats in OBC all over then this difference will go much lesser and thus more quality as a whole for the posts filled. Isnt that so?

The issue here is not 2-3 marks as you have mentioned. Today in such a big population there is stiff competition and only requirement is of more posts, more jobs.

This job shortage can be removed by:
1) Keeping all the vacancies free for all to fight.
2) Generating more jobs.

Here we all know that point 2 have its own tragectory. So why not ask govt for the first one. Now first one means removal of reservation as a whole but that is not practical and we have seen that in past. If somebody thinks it is .... I have already welcomed them for actions. But I am with these guys who are demanding OBC for jats as this is targeting point 1 here.

Librarian:
http://dsssb.delhigovt.nic.in/RESULT NOTICELIBRARIAN.pdf
The selection of the above 42 candidates (UR-23, OBC-11, SC-08) shall further be subject to verification of eligibility

Cutoffs
Gen - 95
OBC - 70

My Concern:
11 posts

POST034:
http://dsssb.delhigovt.nic.in/POST034.pdf
CutOffs
UR 116/200
OBC 113/200

Posts
Gen 77 (Last ranker 77)
OBC 14 (Last Ranker 132) (My Concern)

POST028:
http://dsssb.delhigovt.nic.in/POST028.pdf
UR 106/200
OBC 100/200

Posts
Gen 111 (Last ranker 111)
OBC 29 (Last Ranker in General 287)(My Concern)

Why people of the same country with same economic and social background are not made to compete among equal number of posts? Isnt this breach of our right?
 
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jitendershooda said:
Thanks brother.

I look at the data provided by you differently.

I agree that there is not much difference between the cutoffs of OBC and GEN. This is the only thing I have proved to Kapil in my earlier posts taking Rohtak PMT results in hand.

Also I again mention that if we will include Jats in OBC all over then this difference will go much lesser and thus more quality as a whole for the posts filled. Isnt that so?

The issue here is not 2-3 marks as you have mentioned. Today in such a big population there is stiff competition and only requirement is of more posts, more jobs.

This job shortage can be removed by:
1) Keeping all the vacancies free for all to fight.
2) Generating more jobs.

Here we all know that point 2 have its own tragectory. So why not ask govt for the first one. Now first one means removal of reservation as a whole but that is not practical and we have seen that in past. If somebody thinks it is .... I have already welcomed them for actions. But I am with these guys who are demanding OBC for jats as this is targeting point 1 here.

Librarian:
http://dsssb.delhigovt.nic.in/RESULT NOTICELIBRARIAN.pdf
The selection of the above 42 candidates (UR-23, OBC-11, SC-08) shall further be subject to verification of eligibility

Cutoffs
Gen - 95
OBC - 70

My Concern:
11 posts

POST034:
http://dsssb.delhigovt.nic.in/POST034.pdf
CutOffs
UR 116/200
OBC 113/200

Posts
Gen 77 (Last ranker 77)
OBC 14 (Last Ranker 132) (My Concern)

POST028:
http://dsssb.delhigovt.nic.in/POST028.pdf
UR 106/200
OBC 100/200

Posts
Gen 111 (Last ranker 111)
OBC 29 (Last Ranker in General 287)(My Concern)

Why people of the same country with same economic and social background are not made to compete among equal number of posts? Isnt this breach of our right?
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Thik keh se bhai Jitendr

OBC ne te mai b na naat ta, par ya itni badi chij na se jo log bawley hojaan.

OBC hoja te thik se, nahi ho to bhaad me jao Mai bina OBC naukri le lunnga........................

Maine sirf ye dekhney k liye data diya tha ki kitna fark hai cutoffs mey haadey nu jikra tha ek OBC pachhey jattan k balak IAS,IPS te taley paa na takkey, ghar gel naukri milegi etc etc........ mai te nu e dekhna chaahun tha bhai.

Now come to ur point bhai : maan bhai fauj me reservation hoja er SC/ST khadey howe border pe goli chltei e sabtey pehlem bhajengey same in case of an country instead of raising voice against reservation we r just increasing the problem.
 
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