Aarakshan ko dilli gherenge Jat

yudhvirmor said:
What was the opinion of Tau Devilal on Jat Reservation?

I never heard anything from him or his family members on Jat reservation...
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That simple soul worked to make us children KINGS.
Choode to hum aap he ban reh se reservation reservation kar ke , he never tried to make us CHOODA.

He gave 100 percent reservation to JAT (locals) in all jobs he sanctioned during his reign , not just 50% or 33% or whatever demanded nowww...by JAATs.

Why ask for reservation ($ percent)
Do what Muslims did in Kashmir ( 100 percent not just in jobs but even in air one breathe! )
 
Ojus said:
That simple soul worked to make us children KINGS.
Choode to hum aap he ban reh se reservation reservation kar ke , he never tried to make us CHOODA.

He gave 100 percent reservation to JAT (locals) in all jobs he sanctioned during his reign , not just 50% or 33% or whatever demanded nowww...by JAATs.

Why ask for reservation ($ percent)
Do what Muslims did in Kashmir ( 100 percent not just in jobs but even in air one breathe! )
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To Followers of Tau Devilal.

Those who believe in the vision of Tau Devilal for Jats must know that ...



Tau Devilal fully knew the importance of reservation for majority rural community of Jats
He was the first to give reservation to Jats via Gurnam Singh Commission and Haryana was the first state to implement it any where in the country after Mandal Commission recommendation .However later on Bhajan Lal along with Brahman Sabha Activist RamKumar Gautam ex MLA Narnound enacted a drama in Supreme Court and Jats were excluded from reservation without citing a single justifiable reason while Ahirs and other similarly placed communities were retained for reservation. Jats here don't want a favor they Just want a level playing field .
 
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I request members not to show ugly castist face here .Jats traditionally have never been a follower of Varna System or Castism .All casts are Equal, it is only the matter of opportunities that raise or lower the status of any community over a period of time.A student of History very well understand that and same must be known to worthy members of this site
 
yudhvirmor said:
What was the opinion of Tau Devilal on Jat Reservation?

I never heard anything from him or his family members on Jat reservation...
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Don't know how much true it is (Link below). But if Devi Lal took a step back on this issue then there must be something going on undercover.

Moveover, in haryana Reservation to jats was given by Ch. Hukum Singh who was from INLD. And if INLD took this decision then it was of this family. Ch. Devi Lal was pretty active that time so it seems he was happy to give this.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2004/mar/03swami.htm

With the cops refusing to use force, popular support in our favour and Devi Lal breathing down V P Singh's neck, the Raja of Manda was desperate to break the back of the agitation.

And he did it in one stroke by dangling the carrot of reservations to the Jats. Devi Lal was partly mollified and backed off. The Jats who had joined the agitation saw no reason to carry on. The effect was most apparent in the Jat-dominated Delhi Police. The velvet glove was off and brutal force was used to break up processions and the Kranti Chowks were under siege.

The support from the Jat-dominated colleges like Motilal Nehru college, Ramlal Anand college and ARSD college vanished overnight. The unity of purpose evaporated, and the cause started withering.
 
Bhai Mor

Ch. Devilal tried to put some of the Jat Gotra's in reservation but people of that khap opposed that and he did not went further.

Dahiya's of sonipat was one of them I know.

Thanks


yudhvirmor said:
What was the opinion of Tau Devilal on Jat Reservation?

I never heard anything from him or his family members on Jat reservation...
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Phogat Saab,

I go by your opinion don't go by the diff. In simple terms even if there is littel/no difference in %age of marks in Haryana it will make a difference since the General population is more than the seats.

I don't know this person and don't even know his personal motive. In worst case I take him as an enterpreneur who lead through the bad patch and create some jobs and get the profits.

Are you going to see his profit or just look at your side of the story??

Some one has to take the case be it you...me or Mr Malik why to reinvent the wheel if someone is already there with better planning why not support him.

rajkphogat said:
As shown in my previous post if the diff between GEN & OBC candidate cutoff is only 1.5% to 3% to baalkan ne pagal kyoo bana rey se ye leader nu kyoo na kahwtey ek gharney baith ki pado kyoo hadey dhakkey khaao so.


Yaar yo yashpaal malik moda se k jo bina faydey k logan ki bhalai karta handey se & what is his source of Income?????? meri geography madi kamjor se kisey ne bera ho te bataiyo-
par thik se je jattan ka OBC ban ja er yashpal malik ne ticket milja donu win-win situation me, like bhainsala..............
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mann123 said:
Phogat Saab,

I go by your opinion don't go by the diff. In simple terms even if there is littel/no difference in %age of marks in Haryana it will make a difference since the General population is more than the seats.

I don't know this person and don't even know his personal motive. In worst case I take him as an enterpreneur who lead through the bad patch and create some jobs and get the profits.

Are you going to see his profit or just look at your side of the story??

Some one has to take the case be it you...me or Mr Malik why to reinvent the wheel if someone is already there with better planning why not support him.
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Bhai Maan

Bhai meri post thik te na padhi laggey tanne

Manne kad keh di ek reservation matna lyo mai te nu kahu su ek jib heer gujjar le rey se to jattan ne k paap kar rakhya se jroor ly o jaat bhi kota, kisey ka bhala ho ja te, par kottey k jor te koye kalektor na laagey ye bhi sach hai.....

par jo vicharo se sehmat nahi hain we Jaichand kukar se er je se te unki badaai ku karo so ek post me er doosri post me gaal bakko so unney

doosra : aaj ki date me kisey k faydey k liye koye chiri aangli pe na muttey (sorry fo using this language), to yo yashpaal malik isa k avtaar aagya dharti pe jaato k uthhhan k liye jo bina faydey apni kamai lutaan lagrya se ?????? ye to sochna bhi hassyapradh hai. hahahahhahah

Er manne to nu bhi likha se ek yashpaal malik jaata te fayda thaao er jaat yashpal malik te win win situation for both.

Waise bhai tu is fotu me pahadi pe chad ki k machli si pakdan lagrya se, haath me machli pakdan ka kaanta se ek nu e kime dikhey se manne........... (just kidding bro)
 
jitendershooda said:
Don't know how much true it is (Link below). . [/SIZE]
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Bhai Jitender,

As we all know that Tau Devilal was visionary leader and average manager.So, he was not able to manage/direct the agitation that time. I believe that Tau ji was trying to put level playing ground for jats against Baniyas/Punjabis.. He was known for doing things in his own way and I think we call that creativity of Tau Devilal.
 
prashantacmet said:
But It happens...new vogue of intimidation!!..It looks like all JL members will also have to indulge themselves in charan singh and family bashing along with demand of Jat reservation If they want to survive on this site.....people here are hallucinated by comparing yashpal malik with sir chotu ram and if someone snubs , he is threatened to trash out..contribution of charan singh is belittled..yashpal malik is glorified like GOD and a single word against yashpal malik get you banned...uss mare hue ke chahe jutti paado...............
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rey kisney k keh di prashant

yaar ab tum yaspaal malik ka naam le leke faaltu ka famous mat kero ussey..................
 
vijay123 said:
Ajit is also supporing reservation. With his entry I am sure the impact will now be manifold.

Fresh from persuading the government to scrap the controversial Ordinance on sugarcane prices, RLD chief Ajit Singh met Social Justice minister Mukul Wasnik on Friday, seeking inclusion of the Jat community in the OBC category of the Central list....

http://www.indiatvnews.com/news_print.php?id=280&smod=&mod=4
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Impact is already created by "Akhil Bhartiye Jat Aarakshan Sangarsh Samiti" ..Yeh Jo link aapney beja hey yeh 8 feb,2010 se pehel ka link hey ..Jab Jat netao ki neend haram ho gayee thi..ke yeh Mudda to jor pakdta ja raha hey..than "Maniniye Baghpat MP" anan fanan mein Mukul wasnik se milney pahuch gaye..jissey yeh sabit ho sakey ke iski to baat humney kar hi li hey..ab is 8 feb "delhi march" ka koi matlab nahi reheta. Yeh to sajish thi ek is rally ko khatam karney ki aur Jaton ko rokney ki.
http://www.indiatvnews.com/news_prin...80&smod=&mod=4
uper jo yeh link hey yeh link HAMESHA CURRENT DATE BATATA HEY..AGAR AAP KAL (TOMORROW) IS LINK KO KHOLENGEY TO YEH KAL YANI 20/02/2010 DATE BATAYEGA.. AUR APKO YEH LAGEGA KE YEH NEWS AAJ HI KI HEY.
 
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Bhai Piyush,

First of all I support JAT reservation.

Now coming to Jat reservation it is not that it's a copyright of "Akhil Bhartiye Jat Aarakshan Sangharsh Samiti" (ABJASS in short). Nor it has been a brainchild of ABJASS. Jats already have reservation in Rajasthan, Delhi, UP and MP (I think). They didn't got it out of air and through ABJASS in these states. Members support or do not support reservation, that's fine but dont try to brainwash in believing that ABJASS is everything. You write about impact, it's perfectly fine but you put so much impact on ABJAS, that's not good. Do you think ABJASS can get reservation for Jats on their own at central level? I completely disagree. Revisit the impact the sugarcane protest made in Delhi and then compare the impact the Feb 8th rally made. I have been following this thread for a long time and my observation is that your entire energy is concentrated in glorifying just one leader here as if he is a close relative of yours. I dont have a problem with that but then atleast you should bring that in open. Even when a Equity Analyst gives recommendation on purchasing a stock, he/she also tells whether they have an active interest in that or not. I think you got my point.

Note: I have nothing against or for ABJASS, it's leader, Ajit Singh, Chautalas, Hooda's....



piush_tomar said:
Impact is already created by "Akhil Bhartiye Jat Aarakshan Sangarsh Samiti" ..
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Arrrey yahan kuch gadbad hai yaar

Meri kuch mahatvpoorn posts gayab hain

Kisey ney jayada achhi laggi shayad isliye ghar legya gel, koye na mai fer ger dunga

I think this Modddd also favours OBC for jats or he is supporter of Yashpaal Malik & party.................................

hahahahhahhahh......................
 
vijay123 said:
Bhai Piyush,

First of all I support JAT reservation.

Now coming to Jat reservation it is not that it's a copyright of "Akhil Bhartiye Jat Aarakshan Sangharsh Samiti" (ABJASS in short). Nor it has been a brainchild of ABJASS. Jats already have reservation in Rajasthan, Delhi, UP and MP (I think). They didn't got it out of air and through ABJASS in these states. Members support or do not support reservation, that's fine but dont try to brainwash in believing that ABJASS is everything. You write about impact, it's perfectly fine but you put so much impact on ABJAS, that's not good. Do you think ABJASS can get reservation for Jats on their own at central level? I completely disagree. Revisit the impact the sugarcane protest made in Delhi and then compare the impact the Feb 8th rally made. I have been following this thread for a long time and my observation is that your entire energy is concentrated in glorifying just one leader here as if he is a close relative of yours. I dont have a problem with that but then atleast you should bring that in open. Even when a Equity Analyst gives recommendation on purchasing a stock, he/she also tells whether they have an active interest in that or not. I think you got my point.

Note: I have nothing against or for ABJASS, it's leader, Ajit Singh, Chautalas, Hooda's....
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Vijay,

I told the truth here why every single Jat Political leader went aganist of JAT RESERVATION ISSUE and one thing is more I am not gloryfying anybody here Jisko chamkna hoga woh chmkega aur jisko bhujna hoga woh bhujega.
 
ravichaudhary said:
I have moved some posts to the threads below.

Moderation issues
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?25539-A-Suggestion-to-Members


Ajit Singh Leadership issues
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showt...nd-furure-leadership-evaluation-and-prospects

If someone wishes to start a thread for discussing any other leader they are welcome to do so


That should help keep this thread on track.

Ravi Chaudhary
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Thks Ravi for info.

but can i know the basis on which you decide that my comments were out of topic & could divert the thread out of right track.................
 
Public should be more vocal for their rights!

CM Hooda have time to be guest of refugee run education society 'sat jan kalyan....blah blah' @ KALANAUR
but have no time to meet delegation of Gathwala(malik) khap on reservation of JATS.

He is at such centred powered position with direct access & policies of Congress under Sonia Gandhi ,
still no OUTPUT no RESULTS.

No one is questioning his sincerity & role.

IN PAST CMs like BANSI LAL enjoying similar powers have done marvelous work....ranging from MDU..
Electrification of villages , solid work as Defence minister of INDIA etc etc...but what from this present incumbent ?
 
Ojus said:
CM Hooda have time to be guest of refugee run education society 'sat jan kalyan....blah blah' @ KALANAUR
but have no time to meet delegation of Gathwala(malik) khap on reservation of JATS.

He is at such centred powered position with direct access & policies of Congress under Sonia Gandhi ,
still no OUTPUT no RESULTS.

No one is questioning his sincerity & role.

IN PAST CMs like BANSI LAL enjoying similar powers have done marvelous work....ranging from MDU..
Electrification of villages , solid work as Defence minister of INDIA etc etc...but what from this present incumbent ?
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Bhai Ojus, tu Rohtak ka hokai Hooda ki buraii kyu karan laag rehya hai.
 
atishmohan said:
Bhai Ojus, tu Rohtak ka hokai Hooda ki buraii kyu karan laag rehya hai.
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Iski jhotti khol legya huddaa

Par bhai ek baat mai bhi bata chahunga

When hodda father died last year i was in gujrat or rajasthan wahan par bhi aur dilli me bhi Ranvirr hodda k shokh sandesh aaye they Colour prints me wo b poorrey -2 page k mai nu sochu yo isa kun margya jo har ek akbhaar rowe se itna baad me bera patya ek yo CM ka baap se.

Par itna kharcha wo b sarkari kharchey pe how would hudda justify this same thing happen on his first death anniversery

At one side huda govt is banning new vaccancies & on other hand these things happining


Er upar te Ojus bargya ki bhains kholta handey (in the name of STET )
hahahhahahahahhh........ just kidding bro. ojus
 
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