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pdpbeniwal said:
I agree......................................................I am agreed.

Evidently the passive voice form denotes a state while the active, the action. The subject in the active voice is responsible for the action suggested by the verb there, while the subject in the passive voice does no such thing.
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i have given my explanation on what i think on this query (refer post # 176 http://www.jatland.com/forums/showpost.php?p=186156&postcount=176)
after googling on this... i found the following replies:

Maybe "I am agreed" is more of a direct German translation, I'm not sure -- something like "How goes it?", which can be understood but isn't really standard in modern English. We are agreed or I am agreed sounds vaguely legalese to me, though, like agreeing to terms of a contract, notice or such.
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However, in Latin languages, "agree" is an adjective, not a verb. French would say "je suis d'accord", Italians "sono d'accordo" and Spanish speakers "estoy de acuerdo". They translate as "I am in agreement (with you)", and thus, lots of speakers of Latin languages would mistakenly say "I am agree(d)" instead of "I agree". I guess the large number of Latin languages speakers in the USA (Spanish-speakers in the South-West, Italians in NEW York, Chicago, etc., French-speakers in Louisiana or Vermont + all mixed immigrant from Europe or Latin America) explains how Americans have come to use "I am agreed".

I read that Americans have seen their grammar simplified because of the huge number of non-native English-speaker immigrants, that couldn't cope with the subtilities of the present perfect, for instance. That's also why Americans have developed simplified spellings such as "nite" for "night", "lite" for "light" or "thru" for "through", though the original spelling is still considered better - more formal.
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i welcome further suggestions !!!
 
dkumars said:
Kuch aur khaas baatein/instructions share kariye Angrezi ki :)
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Meri saari posts padh daalo....aur jahan galti dikhe, copy-paste kar do.....apne aap share ho jaayegi aur information/instructions :).....I think, this is the best way to do. Read posts and rectify the mistakes whosoever do that. :)
 
choudharyneelam said:
Meri saari posts padh daalo....aur jahan galti dikhe, copy-paste kar do.....apne aap share ho jaayegi aur information/instructions :).....I think, this is the best way to do. Read posts and rectify the mistakes whosoever do that. :)
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Neelam great to see ur receptive attitude.
But I do not want only to find out mistakes and correct them but also want to learn. Well, if i find any surely i will let u know abt that.

Thanks
 
That's the spirit !

One error marked in red.

'whosoever' or 'whoever' is always considered a singular pronoun, hence 'does' should be used instead of 'do'. :)
choudharyneelam said:
Meri saari posts padh daalo....aur jahan galti dikhe, copy-paste kar do.....apne aap share ho jaayegi aur information/instructions :).....I think, this is the best way to do. Read posts and rectify the mistakes whosoever does that. :)
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sanjeevnandal said:
One error marked in red.

'whosoever' or 'whoever' is always considered a singular pronoun, hence 'does' should be used instead of 'do'. :)
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Sanjeev, its great to see ur active participation in this thread. Keep it up dear. Also, if u find any of my mistakes in this thread or any other please do let me know. Others are also welcome.
 
dkumars said:
Neelam great to see ur receptive attitude.
But I do not want only to find out mistakes and correct them but also want to learn. Well, if i find any surely i will let u know abt that.

Thanks
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That's why I've asked you what I replied in the previous post.

If you won't commit any mistake, how will I learn. Learning with environment takes place like that only. :)....I expressed first, as I don't have any problem if one search out mistakes in my replies. This way not only the other person will feel the benefit, even I'll learn corrections like what Sanjeev tried to explain me.

Sanjeev, 'who-so-ever' is used to say anybody who falls in the category of writing mistakes. Do you still feel the word is inappropriate?

Then about do/does....'do' I used considering present first. 'Does' is meant to relate the past. Isn't it?

Please explain.:)
 
choudharyneelam said:
That's why I've asked you what I replied in the previous post.

If you won't commit any mistake, how will I learn. Learning with environment takes place like that only. :)....I expressed first, as I don't have any problem if one searchs out mistakes in my replies. This way not only the other person will feel(get fits better) the benefit, even I'll learn corrections like what Sanjeev tried to explain me.

Sanjeev, 'who-so-ever' is used to say anybody who falls in the category of writing mistakes. Do you still feel the word is inappropriate?

Then about do/does....'do' I used considering present first. 'Does' is meant to relate the past. Isn't it?

Please explain.:)
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well if u so keen then let me try ... I wud like to correct u at couple of places. See my corrections in red.

Actually, in ur style I wud like to mention that the way you form sentences are quite different. I feel little uncomfortable. Waise I like the way you write.
Keep it up:)
 
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Hi folks !

I used 'does' only because 'whomsoever' is a 3rd person singular pronoun. Red marked text written by you says it all. Use of 'whosoever' is not inappropriate, but use of 'do' with it is not right. All third person singular nouns/pronouns must be written with 'does', not 'do'.

And, I have never seen do/does signifying present and past. Could you throw some more light on it please ?

choudharyneelam said:
That's why I've asked you what I replied in the previous post.

If you won't commit any mistake, how will I learn. Learning with environment takes place like that only. :)....I expressed first, as I don't have any problem if one searches out mistakes in my replies. This way not only the other person will feel the benefit, even I'll learn corrections like what Sanjeev tried to explain to me or tried explaining (to) me.

Sanjeev, 'who-so-ever' is used to say anybody who falls in the category of writing mistakes. Do you still feel the word is inappropriate?

Then about do/does....'do' I used considering present first. 'Does' is meant to relate the past. Isn't it?

Please explain.:)
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What is the difference between appraisal and evaluation?
Can appraisal be negative also or is it a term which depicts only positive side of evaluation, i mean only profit part???

Also, please give examples where the mentioned words can not be interchanged.
 
pdpbeniwal said:
Hi...Respected Jatlanders
Could anyone suggest effective means of improving speaking skills?????
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Well the common way is to speak speak and speak more...
Speak in front of mirror and see how u look while speaking. This one is really effective. Just promise urself that u not gonna stop until its 10 mins... whatever **** u speak but speak.
Read newspaper magazines loudly.
Think in english. Everyone talks to himself so just have that converstation in english.
Talk in english only with friends irrespective of the language they use or tease u for ur lang.
Dont try to become Cyrus Brocha or Shekhar Suman rather speak slow and correct and try to decorate ur sentences.
There is no shortcut and u have to practice and practice and practice.


Rest m also a learner.
 
what is the means of agrejo ki english

sabko pta hai unki english hai


but they speak English with excellent slang

indian pepole have no slang they speak it is normal way
i think normal way is best way of speak any languages


slang a touch hai jo kis b English speaks country main rhane se natural aa jata hai


i think it is no important and its very easy to learn
 
sunitahooda said:
tu jarur sabki paidd mai paidd maariye:d bhej di sai....dekhu ke teer maarega:p
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अंग्रेजी का धागा और लिख रहा हूं हिन्दी में - माफ करना सब ।

और सुनीता, जन-जागृति की तरह इनकी भी क्लास ले लो जाटलैंड पर - ये सारे अंग्रेजी की इसी-तिसी करण लाग रहे सैं । थोड़ी सुथरी सी अंग्रेजी लिख लें तै बात सी बणै - तीर तै कोए मारण तैं रहया !! :)
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Fer ke hoya Deswal Ji....Its better to write/speak GOOD HINDI than BAD ENGLISH:)aur aapki hindi ki lekhan-shaili ki mai prashanshak hoon:)
dndeswal said:
अंग्रेजी का धागा और लिख रहा हूं हिन्दी में - माफ करना सब ।

और सुनीता, जन-जागृति की तरह इनकी भी क्लास ले लो जाटलैंड पर - ये सारे अंग्रेजी की इसी-तिसी करण लाग रहे सैं । थोड़ी सुथरी सी अंग्रेजी लिख लें तै बात सी बणै - तीर तै कोए मारण तैं रहया !! :)
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mere dhore bhi bhej diyo,,,,meri angreji bi ghani maadi se ar jyaant manne pher Haryanavi mein likhana pade se,,,,,ar Haryanvi style haade Log-baag pasand nahi karte

sunitahooda said:
Beniwal....i can send you a good article on how to improve english, please give me your e-id.:)
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