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Burning point about Nehru Family
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haryanajat
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Why did Sonia got her Indian citizenship only recently?
Why congress party leaders always look up to members of Nehru dynasty as their Supremos?
Why this servant mentality?
Sometime back I was chatting with an American who knows a thing or 2 about India - he said India would have been better if Sonia would have become the ruler...
I don't know why but I felt humiliated by his remark.
What about Maneka Gandhi?
What about Maneka Gandhi's son - how old is he?
Now Rahul and Priyanka Gandhi are being groomed as future leaders of Congress party.
The servant mentality continues....
Why congress party leaders always look up to members of Nehru dynasty as their Supremos?
Why this servant mentality?
Sometime back I was chatting with an American who knows a thing or 2 about India - he said India would have been better if Sonia would have become the ruler...
I don't know why but I felt humiliated by his remark.
What about Maneka Gandhi?
What about Maneka Gandhi's son - how old is he?
Now Rahul and Priyanka Gandhi are being groomed as future leaders of Congress party.
The servant mentality continues....
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scotlandjat
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Nathuram Godse took care of his chamcha Father and i think another Nathuram needs to be born to sort out this family.
I have little or no respect for the Ghandis.
Regards
I have little or no respect for the Ghandis.
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haryanajat
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hey mahlee man? what is wrong with you? nathuram godse asassinated MAHTAMA GANDHI ON JANUARY 30, 1948. MAHTAMA GANDHI IS NOT RELATED TO THESE GANDHIS. OKAY. Mahtama Gandhi was a great man, the father of our nation.
Sonia is an italian dhobi girl who was studying English as a foreign language course when she met Rajiv Gandhi.
Indira Gandhi was daughter of Nehru. Rajiv Gandhi was her son.
Do you know these simple basic facts?
Indira took gandhi name (her husband feroze Khan changed his name to gandhi) because it was poltically convienient.
People confused her as being some sort of relative to Mahtama Gandhi. That helped get votes.
Now we have Sonia as defacto ruler.
In life we usually get what we deserve.
So blame all Indian electorate and their politicians with white skin fetish and servant mentality.
Sonia is an italian dhobi girl who was studying English as a foreign language course when she met Rajiv Gandhi.
Indira Gandhi was daughter of Nehru. Rajiv Gandhi was her son.
Do you know these simple basic facts?
Indira took gandhi name (her husband feroze Khan changed his name to gandhi) because it was poltically convienient.
People confused her as being some sort of relative to Mahtama Gandhi. That helped get votes.
Now we have Sonia as defacto ruler.
In life we usually get what we deserve.
So blame all Indian electorate and their politicians with white skin fetish and servant mentality.
jitender_singh
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Hi,
Sir , father of nation hone se kuch nahee hotaa what he had done to future generations nothing .His only achievement is that he helped Nehru to become PM,Besides Sardar patel was in majority.
Its still because of nehru we are facing a problem in kashmir.Almsot daily we are loosing our Jawaans there.
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Jitender
Sir , father of nation hone se kuch nahee hotaa what he had done to future generations nothing .His only achievement is that he helped Nehru to become PM,Besides Sardar patel was in majority.
Its still because of nehru we are facing a problem in kashmir.Almsot daily we are loosing our Jawaans there.
Regards
Jitender
haryanajat said:
Here is another thread with heated discussion on same Gandhi Family.
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6201
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6201
haryanajat
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jitender_singh said:
Nehru ki wajay see kashmir mein problem haee? Buddy, what gandhi did according to the time and circumstances of his era was extraordinary. One cannot hold Mahtama Gandhi responsible for actions of Nehru and certainly not present situation regarding kashmir. Gandhi was a humanist and put bhai-chara before religion. When he was killed he had little personal possessions. He was not power hungry or money hungry. May be impractical but certainly he cannot he held resposible for all that you mention. Auur BJP/RSS ne kaunase teer maaar liyee kashmir meein? yeee BJP waaale bhi Ghoos khaatee haeen - tehelka mein padhha naheen kya?
jitender_singh
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you mean to say circumstances compelled Mr.gandhi to elect nehru as PM passing sardar Patel on side.????????
aur bhai rey main BJP ka supporter na hoon jo sach woh hi bata raha hoon...
aur bhai rey main BJP ka supporter na hoon jo sach woh hi bata raha hoon...
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haryanajat
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Bhai saheb muzhe too pataa naheen tha kee Gandhi nee elect kiya Nehru ko PM. After Gandhi was killed in 1948, who elected Nehru again as PM? and continued to do so till Nehru died in 1963? Kaun tha/thee woh?jitender_singh said:
Koi kisse kee dimag mein ghuss kar dekhta hae kee woh baaad mein kiasa nikalega? Why blame Mahatama Gandhi for all of India's ills? Did Gandhi create political dynasty of his own kith and kins? Kya Gandhi aapne bacchoon aur rishetedaaroon ko kursi dee gayaaa?
Aaap agaar Gandhi ke zaghaae hotee tooo kyaa kar lete? Aap hee kyoon koi aoor bhi kyaa kaar ke dikaahaata?
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scotlandjat
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You so called Father of India couldnt even save Three Young Boys from being hanged. Not only that One of the Boys was a 22year JAT( One of Us ) am sure everyone knows his name no introduction needed.
I suppose Ghandi was good at moving the masses around India and that is the only credit he deserves. If anything he was a Servant of the British Raj.
I suppose Ghandi was good at moving the masses around India and that is the only credit he deserves. If anything he was a Servant of the British Raj.
haryanajat
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Are you engaging in selective criticism? servant of british raj? why was he in british jails for most of the time?scotlandjat said:
Are you talking about bhagat singh?
If you want to go back, let us go back to 1857 when the sikhs and gurkhas sided with the british and suppressed the mutineeers. If it was not for their help, may be India would have gotten rid of british quite early.
shailendra
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OmyGosh!!!
Ohhhhhh.......Maaaaaann!!!! Not the Gandhi debates all over again!
I think the archives are full of that and one should just go back and look at them...
If not some of us others here are gonna start responding to this post like in that famous joke; "my response: post no. 12", "or better still my response: post no. 44"!!! Heh! Heh!
haryanajat said:
Ohhhhhh.......Maaaaaann!!!! Not the Gandhi debates all over again!
I think the archives are full of that and one should just go back and look at them...
If not some of us others here are gonna start responding to this post like in that famous joke; "my response: post no. 12", "or better still my response: post no. 44"!!! Heh! Heh!
raj_rathee
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shailendra said:Ohhhhhh.......Maaaaaann!!!! Not the Gandhi debates all over again!
I think the archives are full of that and one should just go back and look at them...
If not some of us others here are gonna start responding to this post like in that famous joke; "my response: post no. 12", "or better still my response: post no. 44"!!! Heh! Heh!
Hooda, yoh gol chasmayan aala tera paanda na chodae...
sandeep.dahiya
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I also have one confusinf question about gandhi.
why did he signed the agreement stating that india wil give netaji subhash chander bose to british govt. if he is found alive anytime.
if anybody has any comment in this matter????????????
why did he signed the agreement stating that india wil give netaji subhash chander bose to british govt. if he is found alive anytime.
if anybody has any comment in this matter????????????
haryanajat
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sandeep.dahiya said:
Can you give the web link or the name of the book or source that says Gandhi signed an agreement with the British that India will give up bose if he was found alive anytime?
So we have an aggrement that Gandhi had the ability to move masses. Look at India - it is a country of so many different people. They speak so many languages and are of so many faiths.
IT is a BIG DEAL to be able to create unity amongst them.
I don't understand why some people here are against Mahatma Gandhi?
It's very easy to talk about why Gandhi didn't do a 1 or 2 things or did a couple of things the wrong way.
What would you have done IF you were in his place?
It's very easy to criticize. But to do what Gandhi did considering the circumstances of his time is not an easy task.
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scotlandjat
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haryanajat said:
Yes you are very correct in 1857 JAT Sikhs were recruited in the 100,000s by the British since they were very well trained in European Military affairs and highly disciplined which made them great Soldiers not only that they knew the European Military drill. Hence the Fact the Sikh Regiment even till this very day is the most Highly decorated Regiment in the Indian forces. Am sure Colonel Tavathia or Colonel Malik will have more Information on this.
As we all know here Punjab was seperate from the rest of India at that time because Sher-e-Punjab JAT MAHARAJA RANJIT SINGH SANDHANWALIA had created his Empire Khalsa Sarkar JI and it was only after his death that the Sardars turned on one another. The British took advantage of this and made Khalsa Sarkarji part of the British Raj and they knew many JAT/Sikhs would make excellent Soldiers.
Ok here are 2 example i'll give you and lets see what reason you will come up with.
In 1940, a Sikh by the name of Udham Singh travelled to England and assassinated Sir Michael O Dwyer. O Dwyer was the man who gave the go-ahead for the firing of innocents in the massacre of Jallianwala Bagh in Amritsar, Punjab back in 1919. This brutal attack took place on Vasakhi - a religious day for the Sikhs, and a state-wide holiday for all Punjabis. Upto a thousand men, women and children were gunned down in cold blood.
Udham Singh waited twenty years to exact revenge for this terrible scar. After having assassinated O Dwyer, what did Gandhi do? Gandhi wrote a letter of apology to the British!!! Wah letter of Apology he might aswell had kissed their arses in public. LOLZ.
In the late 1930's, Gandhi was defeated by one Subhash Chander Bose in a Congress leadership election. Bose was renowned for his hatred of the British and his willingness to take up arms in the endeavour of Indian Independence. This conflicted with Gandhi's doctrine of non-violence. So, Gandhi went on a hunger strike against Bose's legitimate victory, and caused a rift in the Indian National Congress forcing other senior leaders like Nehru to not back Bose. By the way just out of curiosty how many times did Ghandi go on one of his Fasts??? i've lost count LOLZ.
RAM RAM.
haryanajat
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scotlandjat said:
So we have an agreement that sikhs served the British and killed off their own country people in gadar of 1857 and thereafter.
And you acknowledge that if it was not for their help the gadar of 1857 might have succeeded?
Compare those deeds to Gandhi's few mistakes.
Then we can also talk about the sikh insurgency in 1980's and early 1990's.
What were the causes of that?
what did bose do? joined the japs and nazis and like someone has posted here they served as porters under the japs.
Gandhi atleast united the people and considering the division amongst the Indians at that time, his non-violent strategy of confronting the british was the most appropriate.
Can you come up with something better?
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