Burning point about Nehru Family

[brad]

Gandhis formula had 3 biggest victory to its credit and many minor one.
It worked in different countries in different continenents and against the most ruthless and powerfull rulers. What else do u want? Given me another name that is as successful? As for Nehru, dont blame him, u or ur praents or ur grandparents made him the PM. He cannot blamed for the nations low IQ.

 

[shailendra]

bhai mein is baat mein gaam aale ko favour karta hun

that we should stop worshipping him and stop telling such songs to our new generation that " De di hume ajadi bina khadag bina dhal ....."

Jitender Bhai Gaam aale ka raam-raam!

 

[ozyjat]

Dudi ji,

Well just because people had low IQ it does not become an excuse for him to do what he did.And I will use your point to answer your question(Give me another name that is as successful?)

You wrote people had low IQ, thats why Gandhi was so popular in those days, today more and more people are waking up to the fact that he wasn't as good as to be called a mahatma.

People were illetrate then, unhe a se b ka nahin pata tha, today general people are more aware and that is why Mr. Gandhi is slowly but steadily loosing his inappropriate popularity.

Aur jahan tak raha hamare parents aur grandparents ka sawaal, I know for fact they would have never backed him up on many things.Poora bharat uske saath nahin tha.

Gandhis formula had 3 biggest victory to its credit and many minor one.
It worked in different countries in different continenents and against the most ruthless and powerfull rulers. What else do u want? Given me another name that is as successful? As for Nehru, dont blame him, u or ur praents or ur grandparents made him the PM. He cannot blamed for the nations low IQ.

 

[haryanajat]

Well just because people had low IQ it does not become an excuse for him to do what he did.And I will use your point to answer your question(Give me another name that is as successful?)

You wrote people had low IQ, thats why Gandhi was so popular in those days, today more and more people are waking up to the fact that he wasn't as good as to be called a mahatma.

People were illetrate then, unhe a se b ka nahin pata tha, today general people are more aware and that is why Mr. Gandhi is slowly but steadily loosing his inappropriate popularity.
Aur jahan tak raha hamare parents aur grandparents ka sawaal, I know for fact they would have never backed him up on many things.Poora bharat uske saath nahin tha.

Bhai correct spelling of the word illeterate is "Illiterate." What does anpadh mean anyway. Does it mean people who have not studied are fools? Define Illiterate? If someone is a PHD does that make them wise? padhai likhayee karnee see kiske ko Buddhi aa jaa tee hae?
Thinking about that I have heard people who follow cricket say that Don Bradman would have failed as a cricketer if he was playing today. Those people who talk like that don't know what they are talking about.
Similarly people who denigrate Gandhi don't know anything. They have no clue about his time.

 

[ozyjat]

Dost main baat to Dudiji se kar raha tha, but, kintu, parantu, par tu kahan se beech mein aa gaya.

Anyway spelling mistake batane ke liye dhanyavad.

Tu sahi kah raha hai Bradman agar aaj hota to utna achha cricketer nahin hota. Usi tarah Gandhi bhi agar aaj hota to Itna impressive nahin hota aur shayd yahi baat prove karti hai ki wo Mahatma nahin hai eik aam aadmi tha.
Meri ye request hai tujhse ki please apni kahi baaton ka doosra pahlu bhi soch liya kar.

Jab tujhe apni kahi baaton ka sahi arth nahin pata to main tujhse kya knowledge ki baat karun.

Anyway have a good day.

Bhai correct spelling of the word illeterate is "Illiterate." What does anpadh mean anyway. Does it mean people who have not studied are fools? Define Illiterate? If someone is a PHD does that make them wise? padhai likhayee karnee see kiske ko Buddhi aa jaa tee hae?
Thinking about that I have heard people who follow cricket say that Don Bradman would have failed as a cricketer if he was playing today. Those people who talk like that don't know what they are talking about.
Similarly people who denigrate Gandhi don't know anything. They have no clue about his time.

 

[dahiyarules]

Bhai correct spelling of the word illeterate is "Illiterate." What does anpadh mean anyway. Does it mean people who have not studied are fools? Define Illiterate? If someone is a PHD does that make them wise? padhai likhayee karnee see kiske ko Buddhi aa jaa tee hae?
Thinking about that I have heard people who follow cricket say that Don Bradman would have failed as a cricketer if he was playing today. Those people who talk like that don't know what they are talking about.
Similarly people who denigrate Gandhi don't know anything. They have no clue about his time.

Hey Jeetendra !

Shold I call u a "Jark" or a "Jerc." Whatever way I may put it, you would still be a "Jerk." Stop being one of those Gandhian jerks, and let people express their anguish about the fact they were duped into believing that Gandhi was a saint. Gandhi and Nehru were the two names that are emobossed on every childs mind as they grow up, and goto public schools. Any criticism of these two names is blasphemy and anti-national.

As more and more Indians are getting access to alternative but reliable sources of information, they are learning facts about Gandhi and nehru that we were never told in schools.

India ould have become free anyway. The british lost in many more colonies in the face of violent uprisings, than the ones to peaceful resistance. The ones they lost to "Peaceful resistance" was mainly becuase of the fallout of world war 2. The Germans had blown the crap out of britain. Had america not come to thier rescue, they would have ended up bieng a german colony themselves. After war they didnt ahv the balls and the resources to hold on to the colonies. lot of reconstruciton had to be done at home. India got its freedom more due to the fallout of thewar. and gandhi had been doing his best for all those years, and claimed the credit for it.

gandhi was a great guy in person. no doubts about it. even after independence he was resolving communal issues. But i htink he gets too much credit for things he may not even have been responsible for even indirectly. Nehru was the one who climbed the pyramid and broke the pinietta, and claimed the trophy. one sneaky bastard. Nehru was a bad leader. Becuase of his socialist policies India failed to build a privately owned infratructure. A job we are doing now, after th government had the courtsey to open up the economy to the people. just compare the amount of develoment that has happend in the last 15 years to what happend in the previous 40 years. you will get my point.

no one is a complete saint. we all are human beings with a near similar chemical combination. our body functions are a result of chemical rections. everyone has strong and weak points. and yes i am saying it loud. bite me, if u have a problem: Gandhi and Nehru had tremendous drawbacks too, and people including OZYJAT have the right to criticze what they feel ws wrong about these two people

So grw up. Stop bieng a "Jark" or a "Jerc" or may be a "Jerk." whatever you think suits you. This is a free speech zone. and let people talk. Stop policing us.

 

[haryanajat]

Dost main baat to Dudiji se kar raha tha, but, kintu, parantu, par tu kahan se beech mein aa gaya.

Anyway spelling mistake batane ke liye dhanyavad.

Tu sahi kah raha hai Bradman agar aaj hota to utna achha cricketer nahin hota. Usi tarah Gandhi bhi agar aaj hota to Itna impressive nahin hota aur shayd yahi baat prove karti hai ki wo Mahatma nahin hai eik aam aadmi tha.
Meri ye request hai tujhse ki please apni kahi baaton ka doosra pahlu bhi soch liya kar.

Jab tujhe apni kahi baaton ka sahi arth nahin pata to main tujhse kya knowledge ki baat karun.

Anyway have a good day.

I think you don't know what you are talking about. Phelee tho likhna nahee aata phir angrezi padhnee nahee aati.
Bradman would have been a great cricketer even today. Don Bradman is cricket. Ability to produce in the face of adversity, consistently over a period of time, against quality opposition; Humility - to me, the greatest players also had no need to recount their own heroics;Statistics never lie;Courage under fire.
Lagta haee aapko cricket ke baaree meein bhi kuch nahee paata. Kya baat karnee?
Have a good day.

 

[haryanajat]

Hey Jeetendra !

Shold I call u a "Jark" or a "Jerc." Whatever way I may put it, you would still be a "Jerk." Stop being one of those Gandhian jerks, and let people express their anguish about the fact they were duped into believing that Gandhi was a saint. Gandhi and Nehru were the two names that are emobossed on every childs mind as they grow up, and goto public schools. Any criticism of these two names is blasphemy and anti-national.

As more and more Indians are getting access to alternative but reliable sources of information, they are learning facts about Gandhi and nehru that we were never told in schools.

India ould have become free anyway. The british lost in many more colonies in the face of violent uprisings, than the ones to peaceful resistance. The ones they lost to "Peaceful resistance" was mainly becuase of the fallout of world war 2. The Germans had blown the crap out of britain. Had america not come to thier rescue, they would have ended up bieng a german colony themselves. After war they didnt ahv the balls and the resources to hold on to the colonies. lot of reconstruciton had to be done at home. India got its freedom more due to the fallout of thewar. and gandhi had been doing his best for all those years, and claimed the credit for it.

gandhi was a great guy in person. no doubts about it. even after independence he was resolving communal issues. But i htink he gets too much credit for things he may not even have been responsible for even indirectly. Nehru was the one who climbed the pyramid and broke the pinietta, and claimed the trophy. one sneaky bastard. Nehru was a bad leader. Becuase of his socialist policies India failed to build a privately owned infratructure. A job we are doing now, after th government had the courtsey to open up the economy to the people. just compare the amount of develoment that has happend in the last 15 years to what happend in the previous 40 years. you will get my point.

no one is a complete saint. we all are human beings with a near similar chemical combination. our body functions are a result of chemical rections. everyone has strong and weak points. and yes i am saying it loud. bite me, if u have a problem: Gandhi and Nehru had tremendous drawbacks too, and people including OZYJAT have the right to criticze what they feel ws wrong about these two people

So grw up. Stop bieng a "Jark" or a "Jerc" or may be a "Jerk." whatever you think suits you. This is a free speech zone. and let people talk. Stop policing us.

Dahiya you should be banned for using derogatory language.

 

[dahiyarules]

Dahiya you should be banned for using derogatory language.

Ok point out he derogatory words I have used. And whether you find any or not, is a different issue, I think you should be banned for policing a free speach zone, and bothering people, for bieng honest and criticizing what they feel is wrong.

 

[ozyjat]

Chalo maana ki mujhe cricket ke baare mine kuch nahin pata.

Lekin aapko to padhna hi nahin aata, dhyaan se padho, baat gandhi aur nehru ki chal rahi hai aur aap don bradman ko hawa mein chadha rahe ho!!!!!!.

Iske upar spell check karte hoand altu faltu ki bakwaas, faaltu ka time bohot hai shayad.Eik free ki salah deta hun only write if you have something sensible to write about my post or this thread and if you have the same old bakwaas then go ahead and start a new 'Bakwaas Thread' and keep looking at it youself and make some use of your faaltu time.

Aur haan eik khaas baat Jatland par photo lagana responsible members ki pehchaan hai so go ahead put your pic on display and make sure you put a presentable pic kahin apne posts ki tarah aaltu faaltu photo laga de.

I think you don't know what you are talking about. Phelee tho likhna nahee aata phir angrezi padhnee nahee aati.
Bradman would have been a great cricketer even today. Don Bradman is cricket. Ability to produce in the face of adversity, consistently over a period of time, against quality opposition; Humility - to me, the greatest players also had no need to recount their own heroics;Statistics never lie;Courage under fire.
Lagta haee aapko cricket ke baaree meein bhi kuch nahee paata. Kya baat karnee?
Have a good day.

 

[karans]

Iske upar spell check karte hoand altu faltu ki bakwaas, faaltu ka time bohot hai shayad.Eik free ki salah deta hun only write if you have something sensible to write about my post or this thread and if you have the same old bakwaas then go ahead and start a new 'Bakwaas Thread' and keep looking at it youself and make some use of your faaltu time.

Aur haan eik khaas baat Jatland par photo lagana responsible members ki pehchaan hai so go ahead put your pic on display and make sure you put a presentable pic kahin apne posts ki tarah aaltu faaltu photo laga de.

Bilkul sahee kaha bhai. yahee mai kah raha hoon ke jatland par 95% bakwas ki battan hon sen. kam ki bat karan aale bas thode hi manas sen. pata ni log kyoon behoodi battan me upna tem foonk re se. jaaten ke etne masle sen, unke oopar koi baat ne karta. jarrorat hai kuch samaj me jakar kaam karne ka.

Karan

 

[hamendra]

Karan Singh,
Please first post some burning issues of our society/country, then you can have sensible chatting.

Thanks,
Ham

 

[jitendershooda]

Gandhi philosophy was non-violence. Like I had said Bose would have taken congress in the wrong direction. He had militiaristic views. So I agree with Gandhi here.
Gandhi kee paas koi futue dekhne kee koi magic ball tho thi nahee ki usak pahle see pataa hotaa ki nehru aur uske pucheeteen aise nikalee gee?
Auur Nehru nee bhi kya buraaa kiya - 5 year plan banyee, IITs khulwayeee.
Usne bhi too kuch accha haee kiyaa hogaa? Gandhi neee Nehru kee haath too pakdeee tho the nahee ki uske marji see chalta raheee?
Who knew Rajiv will marry Sonia and she would be ruling? who knew that beforehand?
I think blame should go to our servant mentality. We should blame ourselves for allowing family raj.
I say it is very good Gandhi ko padayee jataaa hae school mein. That creates good sanskars in youth. We don't have things going on like what is happening in that terrorist state - pakistan.

Shailendra bhai JAI RAM JI KI ...

Jeetendra, its ok that Gandhi's policy was nonvoilence but was that right to start weeping having defeated by Subhash ji .. that was not the right way to go for ...he should have fought against him getting support of congress men having similar thoughts....

Yaar baat sochan ki hai jis congress mein gandhi president bante aa rahe the usi ke members ne unko lagatar do baar harya kun ?????

they were close to Gandhi than us and they were having clear picture at that time who was better and that's why they had choosen Subash ji ..

Second thing you said that usko kaya pata tha ki NEHRU aisa karega .... YAAR what was his interest in choosing NEhru going out of way though he was not elected by the congress men .... He was having some extraordinary favour for that NEHRU ????? some interests might had been there .... ?

If Congress people were in favour of Patel he should not have done interruption in that ...

Nehru ne bhi bahut kuch kiya .... ha ha haan bahut kuch karya .... Kashmir , Akshai China ... Some part of arunachal ..... and lots of blood of our soldier's gone waste because he was a good leader having wise thoughts .... and ability to control .... Ek thread mein kise bhai ne likhya hai ek he called up Mr mauntbettan when kabaili ( pakistani ) attacked kashmir ... WO AAPNA JAMAI usne kyan tahi bulaya tha kime se vichar is baat ka .....

NEhru family ka te bhai suru te aakhir tahin naas ja rahaya tha .... bas bhakhat ki baat se ek we lege maje saare is desh mein ... UPAR UPAR KI MALAI NE LEGE KASAI SARE MIL KE NE ....

Haan as faar as gandhi is concerned he fought no doubt but the only thing is that here people are pointing to the wrong that he did .... and also that he was not that much high in his doings that much we are giving him ....like saint and all these are too much for him .....


Haan Sumit dahiya is right in his saying that here in india a kid is feeded with the saint ... chacha nehru .....mahatma ....BApu ...de di hume ajadi bina khadag bina dhal .... on each and every book on front pages that why it took some time to come out of this image of theirs and now people have more independent resources to get info about them ....


PAR EK BAAT ADHURI CHOD DI AAPNE ....

WHy the natthu raam godse hearing was banned to be public ???????? KAYA ISILIYE AZADI MILI THI KAYA ..... KI EK MARTE HUE AADMI KO AAPNE VICHAR BHI RAKHNE KI IZAJJAT NAHI IS DESH MEIN ????????

ALL IN ALL ::::: Gandhi was a freedom fighter ....MAas leader but it should be accepted that during 30's end he was loosing his grip and he only managed to drag it as subhash left congress ... We respect him as a freedom fighter.

NEHRU FAMILY .... ne te tha ke phook de sare ke saare JAAR the .....

 

[haryanajat]

Chalo maana ki mujhe cricket ke baare mine kuch nahin pata.

Lekin aapko to padhna hi nahin aata, dhyaan se padho, baat gandhi aur nehru ki chal rahi hai aur aap don bradman ko hawa mein chadha rahe ho!!!!!!.

Iske upar spell check karte hoand altu faltu ki bakwaas, faaltu ka time bohot hai shayad.Eik free ki salah deta hun only write if you have something sensible to write about my post or this thread and if you have the same old bakwaas then go ahead and start a new 'Bakwaas Thread' and keep looking at it youself and make some use of your faaltu time.

Aur haan eik khaas baat Jatland par photo lagana responsible members ki pehchaan hai so go ahead put your pic on display and make sure you put a presentable pic kahin apne posts ki tarah aaltu faaltu photo laga de.

Sahab aap ne itne bakwas threads khol rakhe haeen. Muzhe kya kholne ke zarrorrat hae. I will try "tickiling myself", wagarae wagare. Auur rahee photo ke baat "aap bahut respectable haen" manna. Should I wear sunglasses so that half of my face does not show. Sahab, when someone takes photo with sunglasses on , even the passport office refuses to accept that as that person's face is not shown fully. Shayaad aapko yee paata nahee hogaa?
Waise kitne baar aapko try karna padaa "presentable photo" lene ke liyee?
Kya koi pose lena padgegaa aapke tarah?
Auur baat sahab I am a poor student, so unable to afford a camera at present, could you be so generous so as to send me one? I will appreciate your generousity.
And sahab tell us do members who have not posted their photos like dahiya sahab are "not responsible." Shouldn't you ask those "members" to post their photos also?
Sahab, do you need to use a spell check to know the correct spelling of "Illiterate."
So I take your advice to heart and will stop writing bakwaas as you have done more then enough work in that area.
Have a good day.

 

[haryanajat]

Ok point out he derogatory words I have used. And whether you find any or not, is a different issue, I think you should be banned for policing a free speach zone, and bothering people, for bieng honest and criticizing what they feel is wrong.

Dahiya sir, First of all you talk about last 15 years of progress. I don't know if you knew that but Manmohan singh opened the economy due to 1991 balance of payments crisis. I am not aware of all the details.
Secondly, it seems like almost every Indian is in software field. Without internet, all that you call progress would not have come about. And Sir, there was no internet like what we have today during Gandhi or Nehru or even Indira and Rajiv's time.
Today the cities have become more crowded, pollution is everywhere, In the capital there is no place to park the vehichles, autos travel at 15 miles an hour. Where is the so called progress in villages? 70 percent of Indians live in villages. Farmers are committing suicides. Who cares for them?
But none of you have replied to this: Gandhi died in 1948, who elected Nehru, Indira, Rajiv, Sonia afterwards? To my knowledge, it was the people. And then what did Janata party accomplished? What about BJP? What dhandhans did they do?

 

[ozyjat]

Bhai tu apni isi tisi kara, kitne logan nai tere tai keh li aur tu samjha liya.

Hooda bhai ki post ka jawaab de.Manne gyaan ki baat ki hai us post mein jo tere jaise ki samajh ke bahar hai.

Isliye na mere tai baat karan ki jarurat ar na hi mere post ka jawaab den ki jarurat, kyunki jai yo jaat chhir gya to daate nahin datega.

Isliye pyaar ki bhasha se maan ja aur kuchh perceptive and well-informed baat hai to likh.

Good bye

Sahab aap ne itne bakwas threads khol rakhe haeen. Muzhe kya kholne ke zarrorrat hae. I will try "tickiling myself", wagarae wagare. Auur rahee photo ke baat "aap bahut respectable haen" manna. Should I wear sunglasses so that half of my face does not show. Sahab, when someone takes photo with sunglasses on , even the passport office refuses to accept that as that person's face is not shown fully. Shayaad
Have a good day.

 

[haryanajat]

Bhai tu apni isi tisi kara, kitne logan nai tere tai keh li aur tu samjha liya.

Hooda bhai ki post ka jawaab de.Manne gyaan ki baat ki hai us post mein jo tere jaise ki samajh ke bahar hai.

Isliye na mere tai baat karan ki jarurat ar na hi mere post ka jawaab den ki jarurat, kyunki jai yo jaat chhir gya to daate nahin datega.

Isliye pyaar ki bhasha se maan ja aur kuchh perceptive and well-informed baat hai to likh.

Good bye

Manna pataa naheen kyun aisaa lagga seeh ke aap naraj ho gayee?

 

[shailendra]

Sad!

Today the cities have become more crowded, pollution is everywhere, In the capital there is no place to park the vehichles, autos travel at 15 miles an hour. Where is the so called progress in villages? 70 percent of Indians live in villages. Farmers are committing suicides. Who cares for them?
But none of you have replied to this: Gandhi died in 1948, who elected Nehru, Indira, Rajiv, Sonia afterwards? To my knowledge, it was the people. And then what did Janata party accomplished? What about BJP? What dhandhans did they do?

How does this all take away the domino effect contribution (or infact the 'naash') created by the very leaders that had the opportunity at the very behest to put a new Nation on it's very best baby step forward??? How can that 'small mistake' that you mentioned earlier about partition; the burnt of which the generations are still reeling under NOT be part of this very equation that you ask??? Isn't it a fact that a sizeable part of our economy is spent just arming ourselves against a dangerous neighbor? Monies that could be well spent in the upliftment of the poor and creating better infrastructure in our communities! BUT we simply can't turn a blind eye to that terrorist problem now and cheerfully concentrate on just these other internal needs... the statistics defy such a move! The Army is completely occupied day in and day out trying to fight terrorism and infiltration!
A Nation's most precious preoccupation is sinply watching and waiting on a neighbor so much so that no matter what our progress is the equations can never ever be better unless that threat is removed forever!

And you know what? Then you mention something like crowding and pollution and present conditions into a debate about that Baniya Mahatma... really it is shameful if guys like you sitting in Foreign countries have to question what our present (or preceeding) Indian government did or is doing when you should really be asking the more important question; That considering the resources, population (I don't think Indira, Rajiv or now Sonia are breeding them! It’s You! Us, the people!) And illiteracy [and the aforementioned fight against terrorism and a certain neighbor] still and nevertheless isn't the giant steps made by our country not enough?
I mean hasn't the Country ensured that even congested cities like Delhi etc. undertake MAJOR renovations ever in terms of introducing mass transit for the residents? Let me tell you and take it from a Urban Planner who deals with it directly and everyday in this country (USA) and you can yourself look around you I am sure; it's a BIG deal even in a well developed country like America (reeling under gas prices, traffic congestion and crowding cities) to think of putting metro rails and mass transit! And when a place like Delhi did it, you know it even made major headlines here!!!

Don't get me wrong; these are all obvious and unfortunate problems you just mentioned being faced by all and any major Countries, developed or developing at this moment, and every problem like this needs a careful and incisive solution… but nothing is immediate; specially when resources are limited like in India.

The least we can do is not crib or quote on own nation’s present conditions (sitting in our air conditioned spaces in another land) while we sing the praises of 'small mistakes' of some ‘Mahatma’!!!

 

[haryanajat]

How does this all take away the domino effect contribution (or infact the 'naash') created by the very leaders that had the opportunity at the very behest to put a new Nation on it's very best baby step forward??? How can that 'small mistake' that you mentioned earlier about partition; the burnt of which the generations are still reeling under NOT be part of this very equation that you ask??? Isn't it a fact that a sizeable part of our economy is spent just arming ourselves against a dangerous neighbor? Monies that could be well spent in the upliftment of the poor and creating better infrastructure in our communities! BUT we simply can't turn a blind eye to that terrorist problem now and cheerfully concentrate on just these other internal needs... the statistics defy such a move! The Army is completely occupied day in and day out trying to fight terrorism and infiltration!
A Nation's most precious preoccupation is sinply watching and waiting on a neighbor so much so that no matter what our progress is the equations can never ever be better unless that threat is removed forever!

And you know what? Then you mention something like crowding and pollution and present conditions into a debate about that Baniya Mahatma... really it is shameful if guys like you sitting in Foreign countries have to question what our present (or preceeding) Indian government did or is doing when you should really be asking the more important question; That considering the resources, population (I don't think Indira, Rajiv or now Sonia are breeding them! It’s You! Us, the people!) And illiteracy [and the aforementioned fight against terrorism and a certain neighbor] still and nevertheless isn't the giant steps made by our country not enough?
I mean hasn't the Country ensured that even congested cities like Delhi etc. undertake MAJOR renovations ever in terms of introducing mass transit for the residents? Let me tell you and take it from a Urban Planner who deals with it directly and everyday in this country (USA) and you can yourself look around you I am sure; it's a BIG deal even in a well developed country like America (reeling under gas prices, traffic congestion and crowding cities) to think of putting metro rails and mass transit! And when a place like Delhi did it, you know it even made major headlines here!!!

Don't get me wrong; these are all obvious and unfortunate problems you just mentioned being faced by all and any major Countries, developed or developing at this moment, and every problem like this needs a careful and incisive solution… but nothing is immediate; specially when resources are limited like in India.

The least we can do is not crib or quote on own nation’s present conditions (sitting in our air conditioned spaces in another land) while we sing the praises of 'small mistakes' of some ‘Mahatma’!!!

lagtaa hae yeeh bhai bi naraaj ho gayaa.
bhai population too 300 million thi 1947 mein. aab baccahe pedaaa itnee kyoon karee?
paar aaap baat ko badaal kyoon raheen haeen?
Talk about the farmers committing sucides. why don't you talk about conditions of villagers? usak zikaar bhi karoo? thaab progress kitnee hae paata chalee?
May be you will like to live along side the paki muslims. But I don't.
Talking about resources, suppose nehru had taken all of kashmir, would we be not facing that problem today? Aap zabaardassti rakhlo muslmaano ko jaab unko alaag desh chaiyee aapna.
This problem started when the first muslims occupied hindu lands. That's just the way it is with muslims. They want to dominate, control, rule over the infidels. Tell me how many muslim countries are democracies in the real sense? Zilch, zero.
Manna to aisaa lagee see you will also blame Gandhi for losing sindh when Muhmmad bin qasim occupied sindh. Talking about that the jats in sind at that time supported the invader arab in his fight against Raja Dahir.
Then you will blame Gandhi for prithviraj 's mistakes in letting Muhmmad Gauri go in the first battle of tarain in 1191 AD.
Why don't you blame Jinnah? or Muhmmad Iqbal? Why point fingers at Gandhi?
Why don't you tell us how you would have dealt with muslim problem in 1947?
Take a look at the MP's sitting in parliament. Who elected them? Take responsibility. People get what they deserve.
Gandhi ke pichee haath dho kar paad gayee khamkaa.

 

[shailendra]

lagtaa hae yeeh bhai bi naraaj ho gayaa.
Gandhi ke pichee haath dho kar paad gayee khamkaa.

Naa tu yun kar tu Gandhi nein daba lein mere yaar !... Aer jukar Bacche ho jayeen tu unne bhi bata diye 'bapu' kaun se... (just kidding!)
'Mahatma' ke tasveer ki tu pooja karti hi hoga mere khyaal se...???

Listen, don't get carried away about,"Who elected the MP's?' ...'why this population since 1947?" "Why mere bhains...(wait, that is the only thing you didn't ask...)... Come on silly, you really think you are gonna get an answer about untangibles like THAT from anyone??? What a complete loser!!!

Now Gandhi on the other hand you will agree is fortunately/unfortunately quite a tangible indentity that can be discussed, examined, dissected and put together and pulled apart all the way again... and on top of that if you would not have failed to notice the already obvious 'intelligent' answers or the general consensus about Gandhi in this till now, then you would stop being such a complete twit in the first place!

Aer tere te kyunkar koi naaraaj hoga mere yaar? Tu kuch dhank ki baat bole jad to bera paate ke maazara ke sai... kal bolega manne batao meri padosan ne kaun tha le gaya!!?!! Eb ya koi Gandhi ki potee sai jo uska jawaab bhi tere te dein???...
Stick to the basics and concentrate on the details, will ya...so really if you have something else to say about Gandhi (and by the way even Nehru is included in the discussion...he is the idiot the 'Mahtma' decided to turn a blind eye to when the real crux of the whole game came into play...so don't call Nehru a janta ki mistake! He was a 'Baniya ki mistake'! well, but then aren't they all??? )

Anyways, I am tired of this stupid ol bickering you... Just go do whatever you gotta do with him and his statue (you have my blessings! ) just don't come and cry here (Bohoo tumne Gandhi ko baniya kahaa!!! ...but hey, wait a minute; He already IS!!! )

Anyways, why are we convincing this guy anyways people? What is he contributing anyways? (except for maybe,'tum mugh se naraaz ho Bahiyee?' ) I think this thread has gone it's distance...

See you in some other thread....adios!
And oh on a parting shot Mr.Sinister (in addition to my top couple of lines in this post), I hope you are not planning to call your future would be as,'Bhen'!!! Now that would be really the best [Imitation is the best form of flattery!!! Heh! Heh!